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rpfocus
04-19-2017, 01:57 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/media/bill-oreilly-out-fox-news/index.html

"Bill O'Reilly is done at Fox News, its parent company 21st Century Fox said Wednesday.
"After a thorough and careful review of the allegations, the Company and Bill O'Reilly have agreed that Bill O'Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel," the company said in a statement.

O'Reilly was notified Wednesday that his run at Fox News would be coming to an end, according to a source with knowledge of the proceedings.

O'Reilly's departure was precipitated by a New York Times report earlier this month that O'Reilly, Fox and 21st Century Fox had reached settlements totaling $13 million with five women who had accused O'Reilly of sexual harassment or verbal abuse. In the wake of the Times' report, at least 60 advertisers told Fox to remove their commercials from "The O'Reilly Factor.""

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/115/100/855.gif

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. So long, shill!

TheCount
04-19-2017, 01:59 PM
I guess we'll only get to see Alec Baldwin interview himself once. That's s shame.

Jamesiv1
04-19-2017, 02:03 PM
Adios, mofo.

tod evans
04-19-2017, 02:05 PM
Who?

nobody's_hero
04-19-2017, 02:12 PM
Long overdue. I would have put O'Reilly up there with Keith Olbermann as the two most-arrogant TV media personas deserving of being canned.

I wish I was a major advertiser though. It'd be nice to call up an MSM outlet from time to time and tell them to cut the bullshit or else. The most I can manage is to cut cable TV and as far as I can tell, they haven't even flinched, lol

Schifference
04-19-2017, 02:56 PM
The spin stops there and he is looking out for you!

dannno
04-19-2017, 02:58 PM
I'm pretty happy Tucker Carlson is taking his spot, and I'm not sad to see Bill O go.. but it's too bad that some bullshit fraudulent claims of sexual harassment are what did him in.

ILUVRP
04-19-2017, 03:11 PM
i guess bill-o and Roger Ailes could double date .

euphemia
04-19-2017, 03:41 PM
Good. I'm so tired of him. I'm tired of Fox in general. Nothing new, just warmed over mainstream garbage and non-news.

CPUd
04-19-2017, 03:43 PM
They should have done it live

anaconda
04-19-2017, 03:51 PM
And now for the talking points memo...

anaconda
04-19-2017, 03:52 PM
Can we get Lawrence O'Donnell to go away also?

Cleaner44
04-19-2017, 03:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppum72Zqxq8

Cleaner44
04-19-2017, 03:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11NrJsnmnfg

Root
04-19-2017, 03:58 PM
Who?
Beat me to it.

kahless
04-19-2017, 04:10 PM
Taken down by Progressive organizations with what looks to be really out there false accusations. Whether you love or hate him this is very bad for the Conservatives and white males in general.

anaconda
04-19-2017, 04:23 PM
Taken down by Progressive organizations with what looks to be really out there false accusations. Whether you love or hate him this is very bad for the Conservatives and white males in general.

O'Reilly is not even close to being conservative. And I'm struggling to see how my situation as a white male has worsened. Do the Bill Cosby allegations make bad days for African-American males?

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 04:39 PM
https://m.popkey.co/ace710/Vo60V.gif?c=popkey-web&p=popkey&i=happybirthday-events&l=direct&f=.gif

...good riddance you sack of shit.

kahless
04-19-2017, 04:55 PM
O'Reilly is not even close to being conservative. And I'm struggling to see how my situation as a white male has worsened. Do the Bill Cosby allegations make bad days for African-American males?

His real political positions do not matter. The MSM has sold him and FOXNews to the people as the patriarchal voice of Conservatism and by large the people seem to agree with that. They gave him by far the highest rated news show for the last 20+ years and it made unprecedented amount of money for FOXNews/News corp.

Yet for the first time a few radical Progressive organizations that have some pretty far out feminist views were able to take even O'Reilly down with bogus accusations. A man who appeared to be untouchable.

By caving in they just gave those organizations and their message a tremendous amount of power. They will use it to silence anyone on the right they disagree with and it could significantly move the overton window in the direction of these people that have some really far out views.

This could potentially indirectly effect liberty candidates and males in the work place by women looking for a pay off.

CPUd
04-19-2017, 04:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmFjEA4vj9M

DGambler
04-19-2017, 04:58 PM
What's Fox News?

dannno
04-19-2017, 04:59 PM
O'Reilly is not even close to being conservative. And I'm struggling to see how my situation as a white male has worsened. Do the Bill Cosby allegations make bad days for African-American males?

It doesn't matter, he is viewed as conservative and so the leftists took him out using baseless lies.

Like I said, I won't miss him even for a single second, this is a great move - Fox should have done it on their own. But the fact that he was taken out using baseless accusations and lies is bad for everybody, not just white men.

When women lie about rape too often, then rape accusations become less believable. That is bad for WOMEN.

Do you think the Cosby allegations were false?

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 05:00 PM
What's Fox News?

The Democratic Party's controlled opposition?

Suzanimal
04-19-2017, 05:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/b9pXUXt.png

Dr.No.
04-19-2017, 05:04 PM
O'Reilly is not even close to being conservative. And I'm struggling to see how my situation as a white male has worsened. Do the Bill Cosby allegations make bad days for African-American males?

Ah yes, the no-true-conservative fallacy...

kahless
04-19-2017, 05:09 PM
...

Of course good for you since it gives you all the power. People will have to remember if they work with you to never refer to you as a "hot vanilla sundae" or be alone in the same room with you. ;)

euphemia
04-19-2017, 05:12 PM
O'Reilly is an idiot if he didn't see this coming. It is 2017, for crying out loud. If he didn't understand about harrassment in the workplace by now, he is too stupid to be in the media.

Suzanimal
04-19-2017, 05:13 PM
Of course good for you since it gives you all the power.


WTF are you talking about? It gives me all the power? :confused:


People will have to remember if they work with you to never refer to you as a "hot vanilla sundae" or be alone in the same room with you. ;)

:rolleyes:

Oh, please. LOL

kahless
04-19-2017, 05:13 PM
It doesn't matter, he is viewed as conservative and so the leftists took him out using baseless lies.

Like I said, I won't miss him even for a single second, this is a great move - Fox should have done it on their own. But the fact that he was taken out using baseless accusations and lies is bad for everybody, not just white men.

When women lie about rape too often, then rape accusations become less believable. That is bad for WOMEN.


Exactly. They should have just not renewed his contract or settled it behind the scenes, then let him say his goodbye into retirement. There was no need to do this the way they handled it. It even looks as if they knew these bogus allegations were going to come out when they renewed his contract with the new clause in it a few weeks ago.

anaconda
04-19-2017, 05:16 PM
Do you think the Cosby allegations were false?

I have no idea. But neither the allegations nor any acquittal, conviction, or mistrial would cause me to view the population of black men any differently. And I appreciate your comment that false accusations affect anyone badly, not just persons of a certain race. If I may add, I don't believe that bouncing a phony right cover media "conservative" hurts the conservative movement. It just cleans it up a bit.

kahless
04-19-2017, 05:20 PM
WTF are you talking about? It gives me all the power? :confused:

More women will now feel they can use the law to make false accusations and easily succeed. I was not being serious with you specifically of course. :)




:rolleyes:

Oh, please. LOL

Would that offend you though, if someone said that to you at work? IMHO, Bill O referring to a woman as "hot chocolate" does not even come close to sexual harassment in my book.

dannno
04-19-2017, 05:21 PM
O'Reilly is an idiot if he didn't see this coming. It is 2017, for crying out loud. If he didn't understand about harrassment in the workplace by now, he is too stupid to be in the media.

If you don't understand that women lie about these things for $$$ and sometimes even fame...then.. I dunno

dannno
04-19-2017, 05:22 PM
Of course good for you since it gives you all the power. People will have to remember if they work with you to never refer to you as a "hot vanilla sundae" or be alone in the same room with you. ;)


WTF are you talking about? It gives me all the power? :confused:



:rolleyes:

Oh, please. LOL

I'm pretty sure Suz is gonne be the first to get hit with a sexual harassment lawsuit before any of her alleged coworkers would.

CaptUSA
04-19-2017, 05:53 PM
Maybe the swamp really is getting drained?! Damn you, 44DD chest, I mean, chess!!

juleswin
04-19-2017, 05:56 PM
His real political positions do not matter. The MSM has sold him and FOXNews to the people as the patriarchal voice of Conservatism and by large the people seem to agree with that. They gave him by far the highest rated news show for the last 20+ years and it made unprecedented amount of money for FOXNews/News corp.

Yet for the first time a few radical Progressive organizations that have some pretty far out feminist views for the first time were able to take even O'Reilly down with bogus accusations. A man who appeared to be untouchable.

By caving in they just gave their message and those organizations a tremendous amount of power. They will use it to do the same to silence anyone on the right they disagree with and it could significantly move the overton window in the direction of these people that have some really far out views.

This could potentially indirectly effect liberty candidates and white males in the work place with women looking for a pay off.

Don't worry about O'Reilly's demise negatively affecting white men. Yes, Bill O is a white man but he is not strongly associated with "white men" the brand. Hear me out, what I am saying is that there is a lot of other attributes/characteristics the normal person would associate with Bill O before white man. And white man is way down the list that it barely registers.

I am not a white man so I think I can tell you how these sort of things go among non whites. In many professions in America, the white race is the default race that most people do not even notice it anymore. When I think of a TV newsman, the default image that pops in my head is a white man and there is no face in particular that I place on its avatar. The image is so diverse in ideology and looks that you can replace Bill with X white man newsman and that image stays the same.

I think the only time where I notice the white race is when they operate in a profession or activity they are not typically known for. Say like when I think of a white rapper and that is when the persona come with a strong racial association. Also it happens with white police men cos the news media tries to beat me over the head with it 100x over when something happens with them

Do not worry, O'Reilly is not going to taint the white race with his alleged sexual misbehaviours. The people who are going to make a strong association with O'Reilly's behaviour with all white men and broad brush white people because of the alleged case never cared for white men in the first place.

kahless
04-19-2017, 06:28 PM
Don't worry about O'Reilly's demise negatively affecting white men. Yes, Bill O is a white man but he is not strongly associated with "white men" the brand. Hear me out, what I am saying is that there is a lot of other attributes/characteristics the normal person would associate with Bill O before white man. And white man is way down the list that it barely registers.

I am not a white man so I think I can tell you how these sort of things go among non whites. In many professions in America, the white race is the default race that most people do not even notice it anymore. When I think of a TV newsman, the default image that pops in my head is a white man and there is no face in particular that I place on its avatar. The image is so diverse in ideology and looks that you can replace Bill with X white man newsman and that image stays the same.

I think the only time where I notice the white race is when they operate in a profession or activity they are not typically known for. Say like when I think of a white rapper and that is when the persona come with a strong racial association. Also it happens with white police men cos the news media tries to beat me over the head with it 100x over when something happens with them

Do not worry, O'Reilly is not going to taint the white race with his alleged sexual misbehaviours. The people who are going to make a strong association with O'Reilly's behaviour with all white men and broad brush white people because of the alleged case never cared for white men in the first place.

What do you know I had not realized I wrote that as "white males" instead of just males. I have witnessed first hand other races getting accused of bogus accusations by the same or different races over dopey jokes as well. I probably added that since I was thinking at the time how older whites easily get hit with this stuff and the difference is minorities have by pulling out the race card to negate an accusation. A power whites do not have.

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 06:36 PM
Whether Billo's firing was justified is rather beside the point..

He was a shameless whore for the socialistic, warmongering status quo and the effective IQ of the American electorate is higher in his absence.

oyarde
04-19-2017, 06:54 PM
I blame Fox . The simple solution was to keep homely woman around like the liberals do . LOL . I bet nobody harasses Maddow .

juleswin
04-19-2017, 07:10 PM
What do you know I had not realized I wrote that as "white males" instead of just males. I have witnessed first hand other races getting accused of bogus accusations by the same or different races over dopey jokes as well. I probably added that since I was thinking at the time how older whites easily get hit with this stuff and the difference is minorities have by pulling out the race card to negate an accusation. A power whites do not have.

I think the ship has sailed on men's reputation in the work place. This one incident wouldn't really affect men's situation that much. The reputation is the reason why we have sexual harassment education and all the rules about relationships at work.

Also, is it still considered playing the race card if some minority is complaining about being targeted with some bogus accusation? I always thought it was a play/tactic some minorities use to get out of real offenses.

Brett85
04-19-2017, 08:49 PM
His real political positions do not matter. The MSM has sold him and FOXNews to the people as the patriarchal voice of Conservatism and by large the people seem to agree with that. They gave him by far the highest rated news show for the last 20+ years and it made unprecedented amount of money for FOXNews/News corp.

Yet for the first time a few radical Progressive organizations that have some pretty far out feminist views for the first time were able to take even O'Reilly down with bogus accusations. A man who appeared to be untouchable.

By caving in they just gave their message and those organizations a tremendous amount of power. They will use it to do the same to silence anyone on the right they disagree with and it could significantly move the overton window in the direction of these people that have some really far out views.

This could potentially indirectly effect liberty candidates and white males in the work place with women looking for a pay off.

Why do you think they haven't targeted Hannity? Hannity is a white conservative male as well. Could it be because O'Reilly is a sexual predator while Hannity is actually a decent person?

kahless
04-19-2017, 09:03 PM
Why do you think they haven't targeted Hannity? Hannity is a white conservative male as well. Could it be because O'Reilly is a sexual predator while Hannity is actually a decent person?

If Hannity is not taken out by the left in the next year, the youngest Murdoch will.

Suzanimal
04-19-2017, 09:04 PM
More women will now feel they can use the law to make false accusations and easily succeed. I was not being serious with you specifically of course. :)


Yes, there are women who make false accusations and, believe it or not, there are men who are scumbags.



Would that offend you though, if someone said that to you at work? IMHO, Bill O referring to a woman as "hot chocolate" does not even come close to sexual harassment in my book.

It depends. Since I find him particularly repugnant as a human being, yes I would find it offensive. I wouldn't sue, though. I have other ways of dealing with douche nozzles.

I have actually been harassed at work and it sucks. The man who grabbed me got a knee to the groin and fired, though.

BTW, I posted that pic earlier because I'm glad he's off the air not because I give a shit what went on between him and those women. Just like a lot of the men in this thread but for some reason, I'm happy he's gone because of some kind of sisterhood thing?:confused:

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 09:25 PM
Why do you think they haven't targeted Hannity? Hannity is a white conservative male as well. Could it be because O'Reilly is a sexual predator while Hannity is actually a decent person?

https://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4104407.jpg

...not being a sexual predator is a rather low bar for being a decent person.

Brett85
04-19-2017, 09:31 PM
https://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4104407.jpg

...not being a sexual predator is a rather low bar for being a decent person.

Well, O'Reilly sets the bar pretty low. 😊

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 09:37 PM
Well, O'Reilly sets the bar pretty low.

Indeed

I'm just much less disturbed with his ass-grabbing (or whatever it was), than with his serial raping of the truth on national TV.

enhanced_deficit
04-19-2017, 10:59 PM
One less douchebag / neocons tool in media.

anaconda
04-19-2017, 11:33 PM
Ah yes, the no-true-conservative fallacy...

Fallacy? O'Reilly is a not-a-true-conservative fact. I wouldn't even consider him "right cover" like, say, Rush Limbaugh.

Dr.No.
04-19-2017, 11:50 PM
Fallacy? O'Reilly is a not-a-true-conservative fact. I wouldn't even consider him "right cover" like, say, Rush Limbaugh.

The fact is that many, many, many people who identify as conservative see O'Reilly as conservative. Many of his positions are held by other conservatives. Does anyone really own a definition?

What positions of his do you think are not "conservative"?

anaconda
04-20-2017, 12:17 AM
The fact is that many, many, many people who identify as conservative see O'Reilly as conservative. Many of his positions are held by other conservatives. Does anyone really own a definition?

What positions of his do you think are not "conservative"?

He's centrist on just about everything. And a not very learned guy with a couple of argumentative techniques that befuddle way too many interview subjects.

milgram
04-20-2017, 12:50 AM
Ah yes, the no-true-conservative fallacy...

http://i.imgur.com/v0RXbuS.gif

anaconda
04-20-2017, 01:49 AM
Geez y'all that think Billy Boy is some form of revered conservative icon to the masses might take a few moments to think it over. The notion that he gains street cred because people "consider" him conservative is just somewhere between silly and surreal. This needs to be rejected outright. It is not reaffirming in any way that the mindless electorate consider him as "conservative." This leads us all no where. Do not give this man any props nor accept that your peers may. He's a shill for the corporations and nothing more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY

anaconda
04-20-2017, 01:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU-XN5kuoKE

jmdrake
04-20-2017, 02:00 AM
O'Reilly is not even close to being conservative. And I'm struggling to see how my situation as a white male has worsened. Do the Bill Cosby allegations make bad days for African-American males?

You know I wonder why Bill Cosby got thrown under the bus but Bill Clinton gets to prance around like nothing happened.

jmdrake
04-20-2017, 02:05 AM
Geez y'all that think Billy Boy is some form of revered conservative icon to the masses might take a few moments to think it over. The notion that he gains street cred because people "consider" him conservative is just somewhere between silly and surreal. This needs to be rejected outright. It is not reaffirming in any way that the mindless electorate consider him as "conservative." This leads us all no where. Do not give this man any props nor accept that your peers may. He's a shill for the corporations and nothing more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY

Bill O'Reilly is an evil man.

anaconda
04-20-2017, 02:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX77HCmJAyA

inthehall
04-20-2017, 05:49 AM
Just more bs like Bill Cosby. With Cosby, the women followed him around. Looking for dick and looking for fame. They were partying and they were party girls. They all pile on years later when there's a lawsuit. Cosby is worth 400 million. People follow the deep pockets. Follow the money. O'Reilly is probably the same deal. Bunch of party girls wanting to make it big or suck up to him. Wonder how much he's worth. Probably a mint.

Wooden Indian
04-20-2017, 07:56 AM
The man made fortunes by peddling the State's lies and propaganda and has repeatedly spat in the eye of Liberty.

I have no reason to believe he is innocent of that highly inappropriate behavior and Fox has every reason to terminate him.

Why the belief that all these women are lying anyway?

Madison320
04-20-2017, 08:17 AM
As a libertarian I don't think sexual harassment should even be a crime, unless it involves physical force (or the threat of force). If the working conditions are bad you can quit.

Carlybee
04-20-2017, 09:47 AM
I blame Fox . The simple solution was to keep homely woman around like the liberals do . LOL . I bet nobody harasses Maddow .

Not sure she is a woman..per se.

dannno
04-20-2017, 10:05 AM
Why the belief that all these women are lying anyway?

$$$$$

And the stories are outlandish.

dannno
04-20-2017, 10:07 AM
As a libertarian I don't think sexual harassment should even be a crime, unless it involves physical force (or the threat of force). If the working conditions are bad you can quit.

Exactly. It's up to the owner of the company at what point he wishes to terminate the offending employee, and up to the other employees to decide if they like that work environment.

donnay
04-20-2017, 10:26 AM
You know I wonder why Bill Cosby got thrown under the bus but Bill Clinton gets to prance around like nothing happened.

Because he was making waves and they needed him to shut up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGqlrVmVULc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaLcQeFLcek

Dr.No.
04-20-2017, 01:11 PM
He's centrist on just about everything. And a not very learned guy with a couple of argumentative techniques that befuddle way too many interview subjects.


He's centrist on everything only if you have a very strange view of the center. He's staunchly pro-life, anti-gay-marriage, anti-drugs, strongly religious, etc. (basically a complete social conservative). On foreign policy, he's incredibly pro-war, pro-security-state, pro defense-state, incredibly weak on civil liberties, very pro-cop. On the economy, he’s for low taxes, low regulation, strongly against Obamacare….The one position where he is a leftist is on global warming, even though he is fairly quiet on it.


Now, of course, you can argue that all those positions aren’t conservative ones, they are centrist or liberal in nature…that’s the no true conservative fallacy. Maybe you think that real conservatives want to euthanize all gays because they are against God, or that real conservatives are incredibly pro-gay marriage because they are for personal liberty. Or you think real conservatives want no taxes at all instead of low taxes.


That is the strange thing in that conservative/liberal/centrist mean different things to different people. I mean sure, Ron Paul is conservative against military overreach and a large security state. But you know that that is the minority (a growing one) in the conservative movement; many of them call him a libertarian. Bill O’Reilly’s positions on those various issues are seen as conservative by a strong majority (if not the vast majority) of the population. His positions align with those who politically run as conservatives (in the Republican party). To say he is not a conservative and is centrist on just about anything would mean that, what, 5% of the population is conservative?

bunklocoempire
04-20-2017, 01:51 PM
Onto his next Inside Edition, emotion driven spectacle.

satchelmcqueen
04-20-2017, 02:03 PM
its about time that pos got the boot. i hate him!

A. Havnes
04-21-2017, 05:22 AM
$$$$$

And the stories are outlandish.

No clue whether the accusations against O'Reilly are true or not, but I think there's a fallacy in assuming any accusation against a rich man or powerful man is a lie is a dishonest delusion. Sometimes rich and powerful people can be awful, just like poor people can. As for outlandish stories, sometimes people we don't expect do outlandish crap.

So, again, I don't know whether Bill is innocent or not (although I think this could have been handled much, much better). I haven't watched his show in forever, to be honest. However, I am careful about slinging around opinions about false accusations when people like O'Reilly are quite capable of sexual harrassment and/or rape.

Schifference
04-21-2017, 06:19 AM
What position do you think Melissa would take if she were responding nowadays?

liveandletlive
04-21-2017, 09:58 AM
hire an escort, Bill. How hard is that to do.

Wooden Indian
04-21-2017, 01:11 PM
hire an escort, Bill. How hard is that to do.

Except that men like him need to feel powerful to get a boner. Paying a hooker that's willing to sleep with you doesn't get his type off. Making someone feel like shit, embarrassing them, and making them fearful... we'll that's what makes his little bird stand up.

People calling it "Outlandish".... please. Because he has money? A lot of people have money. Ron has money. Where's his accusations?

He is a proven monster, and the fact that some on here are defending him because he's been friendly to Trump is despicable.

enhanced_deficit
04-21-2017, 01:59 PM
Because he was making waves and they needed him to shut up.



They sat on dirt for years, question could be why now. Could OReally have been targetted now because he was not complying with NYT neocons' 2017 agenda.

In case of Cosby, they sat on dirt for decades and dirt came out when Obama's benghazi/syria civil wars policy failed horribly ( or suceeded splendidly from another pov) and became radioactive. Happened around same time when Hollywood media's Oscars went #OscarsSoWhite.
Some random questions with missing pieces still.




Related

Sexual Harassment Scandals: Fox's Bill O’Reilly paid $13 million in settlements to five women (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509504-Sexual-Harassment-Scandals-Fox-s-Bill-O%E2%80%99Reilly-paid-13-million-in-settlements-to-five-women&)

UWDude
04-21-2017, 09:20 PM
Tucker Carlson is taking his spot.

Bye Bye Billy O. And f u2.

liveandletlive
04-21-2017, 09:45 PM
Except that men like him need to feel powerful to get a boner. Paying a hooker that's willing to sleep with you doesn't get his type off. Making someone feel like $#@!, embarrassing them, and making them fearful... we'll that's what makes his little bird stand up.

People calling it "Outlandish".... please. Because he has money? A lot of people have money. Ron has money. Where's his accusations?

He is a proven monster, and the fact that some on here are defending him because he's been friendly to Trump is despicable.

yea, dont doubt it for a second.

liveandletlive
04-21-2017, 09:47 PM
its about time that pos got the boot. i hate him!

he hated Ron Paul, so i dont care for Bill at all. Or anyone who resembles Lyndon B Johnson

kahless
04-21-2017, 10:51 PM
Except that men like him need to feel powerful to get a boner. Paying a hooker that's willing to sleep with you doesn't get his type off. Making someone feel like shit, embarrassing them, and making them fearful... we'll that's what makes his little bird stand up.

People calling it "Outlandish".... please. Because he has money? A lot of people have money. Ron has money. Where's his accusations?

He is a proven monster, and the fact that some on here are defending him because he's been friendly to Trump is despicable.

Have you even bothered to listen to some of these women? Complimenting a woman in the office or asking her out at diner outside the office is not sexual harassment nor does it make a person a predator. Especially when he continued to promote her book and have her on the show. Another claims he called me "hysterical" which he told her he would say the same to a man based on her response. That is sexual harassment now, are you f*cking kidding me.

If these accusations were sexual harassment then more than half the men in this country would be put out of a job. Will we have to keep our phones on record every time we talk to a woman in the office to protect ourselves from false accusations now? Since that is where we are headed if they are going to make this garbage go mainstream. These absurd accusations diminish what women suffer from real predators and sexual harassment.

This is one of those times where I believe it is necessary to defend those we sometimes disagree with before it comes back to haunt us. By giving them and these Progressive think tanks that are behind it cover for their despicable actions, it will come back to bite us. The fact they took him down without objection I can guarantee you at some point they will do the same to Rand, Amash and other liberty candidates.

Anti Federalist
04-21-2017, 11:40 PM
After reading some of the alleged "atrocities" that got Billo run off, I'm not inclined to defend him, but just make an observation that an injustice was done.

His mistake?

Not taking heed:

https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/04/20/Production/Daily/Style/Images/AFP_NP5L1.jpg?uuid=egv8biXsEee1A51ha9WjBQ[

No shit lady...

"Don't Mess With Women"

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-29061-youre-god-damn-right-gif-HD-Wa-u2Sx.gif

I'd give young men the same advice I give to people with regard to cops, when discussing women in the workforce.

Avoid them like the fucking plague.

Keep your dick in your pants, your hands to yourself, your mouth shut and avoid any interaction as much as work requirements will allow.

Anti Federalist
04-21-2017, 11:46 PM
If these accusations were sexual harassment then more than half the men in this country would be put out of a job. Will we have to keep our phones on record every time we talk to a woman in the office to protect ourselves from false accusations now? Since that is where we are headed if they are going to make this garbage go mainstream. These absurd accusations diminish what women suffer from real predators and sexual harassment.

You're not doing this already?

My "office" is under 24/7 video and audio surveillance and I make damn sure any "official" business regarding personnel, especially women or "minorities' is conducted under the watchful eyes of Big Brother.

You better get with the program pal.

Schifference
04-22-2017, 04:40 AM
Except that men like him need to feel powerful to get a boner. Paying a hooker that's willing to sleep with you doesn't get his type off. Making someone feel like $#@!, embarrassing them, and making them fearful... we'll that's what makes his little bird stand up.

People calling it "Outlandish".... please. Because he has money? A lot of people have money. Ron has money. Where's his accusations?

He is a proven monster, and the fact that some on here are defending him because he's been friendly to Trump is despicable.

In contrast, I would think that most of the foxy babes that work on that network get wet easily and are not very picky.

H. E. Panqui
04-22-2017, 06:33 AM
"He's centrist on everything only if you have a very strange view of the center. He's staunchly pro-life, anti-gay-marriage, anti-drugs, strongly religious, etc. (basically a complete social conservative). On foreign policy, he's incredibly pro-war, pro-security-state, pro defense-state, incredibly weak on civil liberties, very pro-cop. On the economy, he’s for low taxes, low regulation, strongly against Obamacare….The one position where he is a leftist is on global warming, even though he is fairly quiet on it..."

...yup..and he, like the rest of them, is a monetary ignoramus/bankster shill/puppet...NEVER in all his stinking vomitous 'media hours' has he ever $hined an hone$t light....shill o'lielly has alway been a stinking shill/apparatchik favoring the goddamned fool 'conservative republicans' and, of course, the banksters...ugh...stinking republicrats...

RJ Liberty
04-22-2017, 08:11 PM
Well, O'Reilly sets the bar pretty low. 

Yep. We all know he treated his staff like shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-Y3HJNU_s), even on camera, and even before he got his own show. The idea that he wouldn't treat female staffers like shit in private is ridiculous.

Glad that neocon piece of crap is gone, but of course they'll just replace him with another neocon.

Krugminator2
04-22-2017, 09:13 PM
On the economy, he’s for low taxes, low regulation, strongly against Obamacare….The one position where he is a leftist is on global warming, even though he is fairly quiet on it.




I would describe him as an across the board John McCain Republican. I don't think of McCain as being right wing.

On economic issues, he isn't a Marxist but.. He supports raising the minimum wage and has supported price controls. I remember an episode with Stossel where he was blaming speculators for driving up the price of oil. Curiously when oil dropped by 60%, he didn't blame speculators for making gas too cheap. He was kind of bad on affirmative action and price gouging laws. He isn't Maxine Waters but he isn't a free market guy.

juleswin
04-23-2017, 08:14 AM
I have heard some of the harassment case against him and I have to say that it seems like a whole lot of nothings. Its one thing if he was told to stop and he continued to hound those gals but nothing like happened from their account. My dad was a graduate assistant when she met my mom in a class he thought, I bet with the standards for sexual harassment we have today, she could have easily filled a title IX complaint against him if he were to try that stunt today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQI-VsR0K74

kahless
04-23-2017, 01:03 PM
Yep. We all know he treated his staff like shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-Y3HJNU_s), even on camera, and even before he got his own show. The idea that he wouldn't treat female staffers like shit in private is ridiculous.

Glad that neocon piece of crap is gone, but of course they'll just replace him with another neocon.

You might be right about how he treated his staff and I always get a kick out of that video, but do you think you should still be judged or have not changed from an incident that occurred 30 years ago? Does being an asshole at work now make one a sexual predator, sexual harasser and you should lose your job for it?



Glad that neocon piece of crap is gone, but of course they'll just replace him with another neocon

They replaced him with Tucker and from what I have seen so far he does not appear to be towing the Neocon line.

kahless
04-23-2017, 01:32 PM
You're not doing this already?

My "office" is under 24/7 video and audio surveillance and I make damn sure any "official" business regarding personnel, especially women or "minorities' is conducted under the watchful eyes of Big Brother.

You better get with the program pal.

Even when I think back 20-30 years ago, after seeing some of the bs accusations against some of my colleagues I made sure meetings with women were always held in one of the all glass conference rooms with the doors open. If a woman came in my office and closed the door, I would open it and walk outside the office to continue the discussion. Now that was back then.

The amount of work that needs to be done to watch your back with women and minorities is counter productive. They get a free pass for misconduct far more than white males. Even some who commit wildly blatant misconduct level some sort of accusation when written up or terminated. Just when you think it cannot get any worse I listen to some of these women on Lawrence O'ODonnell, wtf.

Some are such hypocrites. They want to be treated like men in the office but once you do you get accused. While at the same time some of these women are far more obnoxious and insulting compared to their male counterparts. You have the type that act like the female version of Bill O in that old video from years ago, but God forbid you raise your voice at even a slightly higher level to them.

juleswin
04-23-2017, 04:04 PM
Even when I think back 20-30 years ago, after seeing some of the bs accusations against some of my colleagues I made sure meetings with women were always held in one of the all glass conference rooms with the doors open. If a woman came in my office and closed the door, I would open it and walk outside the office to continue the discussion. Now that was back then.

The amount of work that needs to be done to watch your back with women and minorities is counter productive. They get a free pass for misconduct far more than white males. Even some who commit wildly blatant misconduct level some sort of accusation when written up or terminated. Just when you think it cannot get any worse I listen to some of these women on Lawrence O'ODonnell, wtf.

Some are such hypocrites. They want to be treated like men in the office but once you do you get accused. While at the same time some of these women are far more obnoxious and insulting compared to their male counterparts. You have the type that act like the female version of Bill O in that old video from years ago, but God forbid you raise your voice at even a slightly higher level to them.

Wow, after listening to you and AF, it must be really horrible being a white male in the modern work place. You guys are constantly vigilant against threats from those dastardly women and minorities and your efforts to protect yourself by having meetings with them in open areas are actually counterproductive, if you can believe that.

I guess the victim olympic medal tally came out and it seems that you guys are now on top. It must suck to be you :(

kahless
04-23-2017, 05:28 PM
Wow, after listening to you and AF, it must be really horrible being a white male in the modern work place. You guys are constantly vigilant against threats from those dastardly women and minorities and your efforts to protect yourself by having meetings with them in open areas are actually counterproductive, if you can believe that.

I guess the victim olympic medal tally came out and it seems that you guys are now on top. It must suck to be you :(

Have you not learned anything here over the years to what happens when any law or government entity is provided elevated status over another group of individuals?

Vigilant against threats in general since that is the nature of business and this world. The fact of life is it happens more so with women and minorities since the government given elevated status. Whereas white males not of any protected group do not have the power to hit back for their failures and game the system with a pay out. There were no generalizations made, it is risk management.

There are people in general regardless of race or gender that will always blame everyone else for their failures or lot in life. Some have also been wronged by others or the system itself, but not their employer. In the workplace however these same people use the government given opportunity to make some money from those excuses against those who are innocent of any wrong doing. They will however justify it otherwise to themselves no matter who they hurt since our laws and Progtard culture says they are the victim so they feel they have a license to blame those whom are innocent.

This regardless that the employer is color and gender blind, gave them work, gave them repeated chances to do their work, given them a repeated helping hand, have had them in our homes, with our families and considered them friends. Nope, the government given dollar signs are there, it is never their fault and culturally it being drilled into their head that they are always the victim. You could be Mother Theresa to some people but it does not matter with some people.

Yes it does suck.

specsaregood
04-23-2017, 05:37 PM
Wow, after listening to you and AF, it must be really horrible being a white male in the modern work place. You guys are constantly vigilant against threats from those dastardly women and minorities and your efforts to protect yourself by having meetings with them in open areas are actually counterproductive, if you can believe that.

I guess the victim olympic medal tally came out and it seems that you guys are now on top. It must suck to be you :(

Better check yourself, your minority privilege is showing. Or maybe you've just never worked your way up to a position of authority where it's actually a risk you are conscious of.

Dr.No.
04-23-2017, 07:01 PM
I would describe him as an across the board John McCain Republican. I don't think of McCain as being right wing.

On economic issues, he isn't a Marxist but.. He supports raising the minimum wage and has supported price controls. I remember an episode with Stossel where he was blaming speculators for driving up the price of oil. Curiously when oil dropped by 60%, he didn't blame speculators for making gas too cheap. He was kind of bad on affirmative action and price gouging laws. He isn't Maxine Waters but he isn't a free market guy.

That is only the case if you define "free market" guy as someone close to Ron Paul. On a relative basis, Bill O'Reilly is very pro-free market, wanting low taxes, free trade (although he has gone back and forth on it), etc. He's vituperative on regulation and government involvement and is critical of the judicial system (go figure). He can be populist on certain issues like immigration (where the free market position is pro-immigration) and he's had an anti-oil slant ever since BP tried to weasel out of paying for the BP spill (and IMO, O'Reilly sensed the populist anger towards BP and tapped into it). True, he can be critical of Wall Street, but so is Ron Paul (ie, "they deserve taxation"), to the point where both smear Wall Street unfairly (while wanting to hold them accountable when they defraud people).

Plus, economics is only part of the picture. On foreign policy and cultural issues, you may deem him as "not right-wing", but his positions have traditionally been associated with the right-wing, and a strong part of people who consider themselves right-wing hold those positions.

RJ Liberty
04-23-2017, 09:02 PM
You might be right about how he treated his staff and I always get a kick out of that video, but do you think you should still be judged or have not changed from an incident that occurred 30 years ago? Does being an $#@! at work now make one a sexual predator, sexual harasser and you should lose your job for it?

I think the video clearly shows someone out of control who doesn't treat those under him with any respect. Someone who is unable to identify with subordinates or read a room. Someone who can't even keep his cool on camera, let alone behind the scenes. Someone who is used to getting his own way, and who will do anything to make himself feel powerful or take control. Multiple women found his conduct inappropriate, and yes, he should have lost his job, and no, he should not have received a $25 million golden parachute.




They replaced him with Tucker and from what I have seen so far he does not appear to be towing the Neocon line.

Yet. It may take a while for that to happen. But the Neocons won't let this opportunity to pass.

RJ Liberty
04-23-2017, 09:10 PM
My dad was a graduate assistant when she met my mom in a class he thought

ESP 101? ;)

Just kidding. That was an epic typo.

Your point about what was once acceptable now being Title IX violations is very valid. It's gone overboard. Don't get me started on VAWA and what my workplace makes me do.

kahless
04-23-2017, 09:56 PM
I think the video clearly shows someone out of control who doesn't treat those under him with any respect. Someone who is unable to identify with subordinates or read a room. Someone who can't even keep his cool on camera, let alone behind the scenes. Someone who is used to getting his own way, and who will do anything to make himself feel powerful or take control.

30 years ago. You not once in the last 30 years lost your temper? You don't think people change in 30 years? Are you the same person you were 30 years ago and do you think you should still be judged over an incident from 30 years ago? I am not saying it is right but big deal if someone loses their cool when things go massively wrong. It is amazing this country has not come to a grinding halt with this overly sensitive snowflake generation.



Multiple women found his conduct inappropriate, and yes, he should have lost his job, and no, he should not have received a $25 million golden parachute.

Mostly gold diggers, people trying to make a name for themselves and/or do not have a clue what real sexual harassment really is.


Yet. It may take a while for that to happen. But the Neocons won't let this opportunity to pass.

No doubt and if he does not play ball he is gone.

juleswin
04-23-2017, 10:05 PM
Better check yourself, your minority privilege is showing. Or maybe you've just never worked your way up to a position of authority where it's actually a risk you are conscious of.

I cashed my minority privilege for a ticket on the liberty train. But yea, I have never been in a position of authority where it(being hyper vigilant about women and/or minorities) is actually a risk you are conscious of. And the same goes for 99.9% of the black/white/purple men in the work force.

You

RJ Liberty
04-23-2017, 10:20 PM
30 years ago. You not once in the last 30 years lost your temper?

Screaming profanities at underlings on camera? nope. Off-camera? Nope.

From HuffPo:



“I know that there were women in the office that he would bring to tears, and I never wanted to be that woman, so I would go completely out of my way to triple-check everything so that nothing could go wrong,” said McKeown, who worked with O’Reilly when he came out West from New York City.



“He was definitely hot-tempered and he was impatient, so when I was going to be dealing with him, I was so afraid,” she added. “I never wanted to give him a reason to yell at me. Honestly, the man was very intimidating.”



McKeown remembers O’Reilly showing up in a limousine to cover the LA riots, and then getting annoyed when people in the community were in his eyeline. “There was such a lack of compassion,” she said. Another time, in San Francisco, he got upset with McKeown because there was a bee flying around his head.




“I was like, ‘I can’t control the bees...’” she said.



McKeown continued to think of the “DO IT LIVE” moment for years after O’Reilly left the show to become a right-wing star. If people ever saw the way he acted sometimes, she thought to herself.






You don't think people change in 30 years? Are you the same person you were 30 years ago and do you think you should still be judged over an incident from 30 years ago?

O'Reilly left Inside Edition in 1995, and the video is clearly from the mid-1990s rather than the 80s, so the video is closer to 20 years old than 30. Regardless, there are multiple reports of O'Reilly's dickishness at his workplace throughout the years, and someone who is dickish throughout his career clearly hasn't learned how to treat people. The fact that multiple underlings have supported Fox News' canning of him speaks volumes: he didn't have the support of the people who made him what he was.

kahless
04-23-2017, 10:27 PM
Screaming profanities at underlings on camera? nope. Off-camera? Nope.

O'Reilly left Inside Edition in 1995, and the video is clearly from the mid-1990s rather than the 80s, so the video is closer to 20 years old than 30. Regardless, there are multiple reports of O'Reilly's dickishness at his workplace throughout the years, and someone who is dickish throughout his career clearly hasn't learned how to treat people. The fact that multiple underlings have supported Fox News' canning of him speaks volumes: he didn't have the support of the people who made him what he was.

Being an asshole != sexual harassment.

RJ Liberty
04-23-2017, 10:32 PM
Being an $#@! != sexual harassment.

Nope. But we know how he behaved on-camera, in front of a studio full of people: Out of control. It's certainly not hard to believe he was worse behind the scenes, as people are when they know they aren't on camera.

kahless
04-23-2017, 10:44 PM
I was predicting Hannity had another year before they oust him but looks like they are moving on to him already. I wonder by the time they get done purging "Conservatives" will there be any national host that will have someone like Rand on.

Sean Hannity is forced to deny he sexually harassed a former Fox News contributor who claims the married primetime host made 'advances' at her and invited her back to his hotel
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4438786/Sean-Hannity-forced-deny-harassed-contributor.html

specsaregood
04-23-2017, 11:13 PM
I cashed my minority privilege for a ticket on the liberty train. But yea, I have never been in a position of authority where it(being hyper vigilant about women and/or minorities) is actually a risk you are conscious of. And the same goes for 99.9% of the black/white/purple men in the work force.

You

Yeah, you are not conscious of it because off your minority privilege which protects your ass. And yes, I have been in that position; and it was after many years of working my ass off and bettering myself at my own expense, that I got there.

oyarde
04-23-2017, 11:16 PM
Maybe Bill & Beck can go back out on the road together and do stand up like they used to .

Solverch
04-24-2017, 12:50 AM
He is coming with a podcast right.

Schifference
04-24-2017, 07:32 AM
I have heard some of the harassment case against him and I have to say that it seems like a whole lot of nothings. Its one thing if he was told to stop and he continued to hound those gals but nothing like happened from their account. My dad was a graduate assistant when she met my mom in a class he thought, I bet with the standards for sexual harassment we have today, she could have easily filled a title IX complaint against him if he were to try that stunt today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQI-VsR0K74
After watching the MSNBC news clip, I would say never talk to women in the work place. Don't even walk past one. Don't sigh, grunt, cough, laugh, compliment. Hysterical is sexist. Hmm. Thank God I am not rich. Perceived harassment. I do not like Oreily but I would never convict any person based on what those women said.