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twomp
04-13-2017, 09:07 PM
With just two days to go until North Korea's "Day of the Sun" celebrations, when as reported yesterday it may conduct its 6th nuclear test at the Punggye-ri Nuclear Test Site, NBC reports citing multiple senior U.S. intelligence officials that in the latest stepwise escalation, the U.S. is prepared to launch a preemptive strike with conventional weapons against North Korea should officials become convinced that Kim Jong-Un's nation North Korea is about to follow through with a nuclear weapons test. Note: North Korea does not even have to carry out the text: mere conviction on the side of the US that it would, is sufficient.

As first reported yesterday, North Korea warned that a "big event" is near, and U.S. officials say signs point to a nuclear test that could come as early as this weekend. According to multiple sources, the U.S. intelligence community has reported with "moderate confidence" that North Korea is preparing for its sixth underground nuclear test, though the U.S. is also in the dark regarding the specific timing.

The launch of a preemptive attack would naturally threatens a counterattack by Kim: the U.S. is thus "worried" that its strikes could provoke the volatile and unpredictable North Korean regime to launch its own blistering attack on its southern neighbor. "The leadership in North Korea has shown absolutely no sign or interest in diplomacy or dialogue with any of the countries involved in this issue," said Victor Cha, the Korea Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Meanwhile, intelligence officials have told NBC News that the U.S. Navy has positioned two destroyers capable of shooting Tomahawk cruise missiles in the region, one just 300 miles from the North Korean nuclear test site. Additionally, American heavy bombers are also positioned in Guam to attack North Korea should it be necessary, and earlier this week, the Pentagon announced that the USS Carl Vinson aircraft carrier strike group was being diverted to the area.

Earlier in the week, North Korea said it would "hit the U.S. first" with a nuclear weapon should there be any signs of U.S. strikes. On Thursday, North Korea warned of a "merciless retaliatory strike" should the U.S. take any action. It is almost as if the U.S. is eager to provoke the "irrational" North Korean dictator.

By relentlessly bringing in a number of strategic nuclear assets to the Korean peninsula, the US is gravely threatening the peace and safety and driving the situation to the brink of a nuclear war," said North Korea's statement, which actually sounded quite rational and measured.

Futhermore, virtually everyone knows that Kim's threats are those of a paper tiger: North Korea is not believed to have a deliverable long-range nuclear weapon, according to U.S. experts, nor does it yet possess an intercontinental missile. Which begs the question: why is the US getting involved in yet another regime change operation half way around the world?

South Korea's top diplomat said today that the U.S. would consult with Seoul before taking any serious measures, or at least he hoped: "U.S. officials, mindful of such concerns here, repeatedly reaffirmed that (the U.S.) will closely discuss with South Korea its North Korea-related measures," foreign minister Yun Byung told a special parliamentary meeting. "In fact, the U.S. is working to reassure us that it will not, just in case that we might hold such concerns."

Of course, if the U.S. does not "closely discuss" any pre-strike plans, then... oops.

In any case, a new war may break out as soon as this weekend: "Two things are coming together this weekend," said retired Adm. James Stavridis, former commander of NATO and an NBC analyst. "One is the distinct possibility of a sixth North Korean nuclear weapons detonation and the other is an American carrier strike group, a great deal of firepower headed right at the Korean Peninsula."

Read the rest here:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-13/us-may-launch-preemptive-strike-north-korea-ahead-nuclear-test

TheCount
04-13-2017, 09:09 PM
Two weeks ago I would have said this was bullshit.

AngryCanadian
04-13-2017, 09:18 PM
Trump risks getting Seoul bombed like a German city in WW2 by NK heavy shelling causing millions of deaths.

Brian4Liberty
04-13-2017, 09:25 PM
Note: North Korea does not even have to carry out the text: mere conviction on the side of the US that it would, is sufficient.

If North Korea were to carry out a nasty text, it seems to me that a pre-emptive Tweet would be the appropriate action.

Brian4Liberty
04-13-2017, 09:27 PM
Which begs the question: why is the US getting involved in yet another regime change operation half way around the world?

Ah, but neocon munchkin Dana Perino answered that question the other day on Fox: it's because NK might help Syria or Iran with nuke technology, and that would be a threat to Israel. #MAGA!

Brian4Liberty
04-13-2017, 09:29 PM
Trump risks getting Seoul bombed like a German city in WW2 by NK heavy shelling causing millions of deaths.

Sucks to be a Korean right now. Gotta break a couple of eggs to make a Likud omelette.

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 09:37 PM
Two weeks ago I would have said this was bullshit.

Who knows? Today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow. It's be kinda nice to know what the Federal Government wanted. but ,you know, national security. How can a good citizen argue against it?

TheTexan
04-13-2017, 10:28 PM
Well we can't let North Korea get nuclear weapons. They might use the nukes with little to no regard for the lives of innocent people.

jmdrake
04-13-2017, 10:30 PM
Ah, but neocon munchkin Dana Perino answered that question the other day on Fox: it's because NK might help Syria or Iran with nuke technology, and that would be a threat to Israel. #MAGA!

MIGA?

dannno
04-13-2017, 11:30 PM
MIGA?

MIGACHU!

CPUd
04-14-2017, 12:07 AM
If Ivanka lets President Donald ride on the carrier to go make peace, she could help save $700K per day by not having to protect him at the White House.

http://i.imgur.com/rvVDxWV.jpg

kcchiefs6465
04-14-2017, 12:42 AM
He only wrote a book passage saying he would so I don't know.

It'll be such a surprise if he bombs North Korea.

I couldn't even begin to imagine how one would know it was going to happen.

anaconda
04-14-2017, 01:46 AM
Well we can't let North Korea get nuclear weapons. They might use the nukes with little to no regard for the lives of innocent people.

Plus the United States should stand up for all people against bullies.

Carlybee
04-14-2017, 06:37 AM
If that happens, may as well prepare for China too.

phill4paul
04-14-2017, 07:51 AM
If Ivanka lets President Donald ride on the carrier to go make peace, she could help save $700K per day by not having to protect him at the White House.

http://i.imgur.com/rvVDxWV.jpg

Outstanding idea!

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/aircraft_carrier_golf_course.jpg

nikcers
04-14-2017, 08:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q901s3wcNSU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwL-XDouYx0

nikcers
04-14-2017, 09:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9jg7mOh.jpg

timosman
04-14-2017, 09:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/9jg7mOh.jpg

Famous Last Words ....

AZJoe
04-15-2017, 05:19 AM
The President thinks he can bluff the Chinese and an attack on North Korea will have only limited consequences. He is wrong on both counts. (http://theduran.com/trump-miscalculating-north-korea-china-war/)

To the extent that it is possible to see a strategy behind the latest US moves, it seems to be to frighten the Chinese into abandoning North Korea by threatening them with a war in the Korean Peninsula ... This is the sort of approach that might make sense in the cut-and-thrust US property industry which Donald Trump knows. However the trouble with this frankly amateur approach is that it gravely underestimates the strength of feeling in China. ...

An actual or pending US attack on North Korea would therefore be far more likely to strengthen Chinese support for North Korea than to weaken it.

The President and his advisers made the same mistake following the US missile strike on Syria. In the days following the missile strike the President and his advisers appear to have believed ... that the missile strikes would cause the Russians to reduce their support for Syria’s President Assad. ... the Russians were neither intimidated by the missile strike nor impressed by the bribe. Instead, rather than pulling out of Syria or reducing their support for President Assad, their response was to increase it.

There is no reason to think the Chinese response to any US attack on North Korea would be any different. On the contrary, given traditional Chinese sensitivity about questions of prestige, a hardening of China’s position in the face of US ‘aggression’ on the Asian mainland is a virtual certainty.

The trouble is that having allowed tensions to ratchet up to this level the President may feel he cannot pull back without being humiliated, ... the potential consequences of that are alarming, to say the least.

It is however desperately important in this situation that the President either comes to his senses and accepts whatever face-saving proposal the Chinese put to him ... A failure to do so could set the scene for catastrophe, either now or in the future. ... never to bluff China, because it is a bluff which is always called.

luctor-et-emergo
04-15-2017, 06:26 AM
I must say, this is becoming rather scary.

milgram
04-15-2017, 08:05 AM
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AZJoe
04-16-2017, 07:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW8kC-UPvN0

AZJoe
04-17-2017, 03:16 PM
Washington Sending a total of three aircraft carrier groups to Korean peninsula
(http://theantimedia.org/two-aircraft-carriers-north-korea/)
http://www.freewebs.com/keithwarner/ph-10145.jpg

Danke
04-19-2017, 12:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNEiWE-i6gY

kpitcher
04-19-2017, 02:04 PM
North Korea could land 1/2 a million rounds of artillery in the first hour. Trump should take lessons from Bush Jr. - if you want to use a War to prop up your presidency pick a county that can't shoot back in any meaningful way. Although if a Trump company could get some no bid contracts like Halliburton did who knows...


http://www.businessinsider.com/why-no-one-in-korea-wants-war-2013-4

CPUd
04-19-2017, 05:14 PM
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https://twitter.com/xeni/status/854568324696551424

r3volution 3.0
04-19-2017, 05:25 PM
I must say, this is becoming rather scary.

I imagine the Dutch have trouble digging bomb shelters given the sea level.

Danke
04-19-2017, 06:53 PM
I imagine the Dutch have trouble digging bomb shelters given the sea level.

Pizza oven will have to do.

enhanced_deficit
04-19-2017, 11:02 PM
Not gonna happen, PES's are for countries that fail to acquire WMDs. It's not cowardice, just a matter of practicality.

A. Havnes
04-20-2017, 08:11 AM
North Korea will deter us through sheer brainwashed nationalism.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTw0d3gldV4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daTV9-Wttgg

shakey1
04-20-2017, 09:28 AM
Seems to be an underwhelming concern about this on MSM.

http://www.fourfingerdiscount.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/GJ.jpg

luctor-et-emergo
04-20-2017, 10:56 AM
I imagine the Dutch have trouble digging bomb shelters given the sea level.

Nah, we are good with water. You simply put some drainage tubes/hoses into the soil, use a big waterpump to temporarily lower the water level. Then pour a bunker/basement thingy with a very thick floor so it does not float... And you're ready for the apocalypse. Not a big problem.

AZJoe
04-20-2017, 01:27 PM
"Washington worries about North Korea having nuclear weapons, but the entire world worries that Washington has nuclear weapons" - PCR

AZJoe
04-30-2017, 05:28 AM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Korean-tweet.png

CPUd
04-30-2017, 06:22 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-no04hUwAAbS_j.jpg

enhanced_deficit
04-30-2017, 07:47 AM
Not a big fan of Philllipine's President because of his repeated use of S-word towards Obama but in this case he has a point:

Philippine's President Rodrigo Duterte urges U.S. restraint on N. Korea (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?510168-Philippine-s-President-Rodrigo-Duterte-urges-U-S-restraint-on-N-Korea&)

AZJoe
05-13-2017, 11:00 AM
Washington Scolds China (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-silkroad-summit-northkorea-excl-idUSKBN188281) for inviting North Korea to Silk Road Summit. Claims that such overtures of de-escalation, normalization, peace, and trade sends the wrong message," at a time when Washington is trying to hype war.

AZJoe
05-15-2017, 09:37 PM
1746 American Adults were asked to point out North Korea on a map. This is the result (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-15/1746-american-adults-were-asked-point-out-north-korea-map-was-result):

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/05/12/nkorea%20map_0.jpg

Only 36% got it right.

Further breakdown :

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/05/12/nyt%20study%20nk_0.jpg