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surf
04-13-2017, 11:07 AM
I've had it with war
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/13/mother-all-bombs-us-forces-drop-massive-non-nuclear-bomb-afghanistan

Anti Federalist
04-13-2017, 11:07 AM
US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/index.html

Washington (CNN)The US military has dropped an enormous bomb in Afghanistan, according to four US military officials with direct knowledge of the mission.

A GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb, nicknamed MOAB, was dropped at 7 p.m. local time Thursday, the sources said.

The MOAB is also known as the "mother of all bombs." A MOAB is a 21,600-pound, GPS-guided munition that is America's most powerful non-nuclear bomb.

The bomb was dropped by an MC-130 aircraft, operated by Air Force Special Operations Command, according to the military sources.

They said the target was ISIS tunnels and personnel in the Achin district of the Nangarhar province.

The military is currently assessing the damage. Gen. John Nicholson, commander of US forces in Afghanistan, signed off on the use of the bomb, according to the sources.

This is the first time a MOAB has been used in the battlefield, according to the US officials. This munition was developed during the Iraq War.

Anti Federalist
04-13-2017, 11:08 AM
1107 for both us.

ETA - You must have been a few seconds ahead of me.

Anti Federalist
04-13-2017, 11:08 AM
//

tod evans
04-13-2017, 11:10 AM
https://m.popkey.co/20145c/xqmAW.gif

Jan2017
04-13-2017, 11:11 AM
US drops 'mother of all bombs' MOAB


A GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb, nicknamed MOAB, was dropped at 7 p.m. local time Thursday, the sources said.

tod evans
04-13-2017, 11:12 AM
I'll put this in your thread too;

https://m.popkey.co/20145c/xqmAW.gif

afwjam
04-13-2017, 11:14 AM
Make America Great Again!!! MAGA bitches!!! Cuck cuck cuck cuck cu ck cu cu ck cuck ck ck

afwjam
04-13-2017, 11:15 AM
If we can't drop nukes, let's build munitions that are even bigger then the nukes!!! MAGA you cucks!!!

Anti Federalist
04-13-2017, 11:17 AM
Boobus - "Fuck yeah, bomb them sumbitches back to the stone age!!"

EBounding
04-13-2017, 11:19 AM
BIG LEAGUE OH YEAH!
#GreatAgain

Brian4Liberty
04-13-2017, 11:24 AM
Is Trump using Spock's logic from The Galileo Seven?

Zippyjuan
04-13-2017, 11:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9H50tHiHjs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_Massive_Ordnance_Air_Blast


Since then, Russia has tested its "Father of All Bombs", which is claimed to be four times as powerful as the MOAB.


Manufacturer McAlester Army Ammunition Plant

It reports a total of fifteen such weapons were produced.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EFuZBgIG4

liveandletlive
04-13-2017, 11:31 AM
he loves NATO, sold out our privacy to the ISPs, loves dropping bombs

and its only been 4 months

klamath
04-13-2017, 11:33 AM
Trump keeping his campaign promises!!!!!! bombing the shit out of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

liveandletlive
04-13-2017, 11:36 AM
Make America Great Again!!! MAGA bitches!!! Cuck cuck cuck cuck cu ck cu cu ck cuck ck ck

and he ordered the bombing while eating Mar-A-Lago chocolate cake.
MURICA!

TheCount
04-13-2017, 11:38 AM
Trump keeping his campaign promises!!!!!! bombing the shit out of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I won't be satisfied unless families were killed.

Dr.3D
04-13-2017, 12:32 PM
Cries about people killing children then drops a big ass bomb on a town. I wonder how many children he killed with that one.

afwjam
04-13-2017, 12:34 PM
Cries about people killing children then drops a big ass bomb on a town. I wonder how many children he killed with that one.

a lot more, for the greater good.

EBounding
04-13-2017, 12:38 PM
Cries about people killing children then drops a big ass bomb on a town. I wonder how many children he killed with that one.

Only Bad Dudes I'm sure.

timosman
04-13-2017, 12:51 PM
Only Bad Dudes I'm sure.

but did you see how cool it was? it went kabooooooom. I can't believe I can do this shit. I am just gonna drop a nuke somewhere and then let the generals handle WWIII while I play golf at La Margo.

Madison320
04-13-2017, 12:52 PM
he loves NATO, sold out our privacy to the ISPs, loves dropping bombs

and its only been 4 months

Tried to replace socialist Obamacare with socialist Trumpcare. Flipped back to liking low interest rates (this is not getting much attention, but it should). Called the market a big ugly bubble as a candidate, now taking credit for the bubble.

CaptUSA
04-13-2017, 12:53 PM
Cries about people killing children then drops a big ass bomb on a town. I wonder how many children he killed with that one.

Where did you hear that it was a town? There's a lot of barren mountains in that area, too. (not saying he didn't - just hadn't read that)


They said the target was ISIS tunnels and personnel in the Achin district of the Nangarhar province.

I'll say they're Achin'!!!

Pizzo
04-13-2017, 12:54 PM
he loves NATO, sold out our privacy to the ISPs, loves dropping bombs

and its only been 4 months

Actually hasn't even been three months. Keep America Awful Again.

Pizzo
04-13-2017, 12:55 PM
Cries about people killing children then drops a big ass bomb on a town. I wonder how many children he killed with that one.

Eh, if there aren't any videos of it on CNN, it doesn't count.

Zippyjuan
04-13-2017, 12:57 PM
http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2016/05/09/why-daesh-chose-achin-district-its-base-afghanistan


Why Daesh chose Achin district as its base in Afghanistan

JALALABAD (Pajhwok): The Islamic State (IS) -- or so called Daesh -- has chosen the Achin district of eastern Nangarhar province as its headquarters for a variety of reasons.

The district’s proximity to the Durand Line, a contested borderline haunted by militants of all stripes, and easy weapons and logistical supply routes seem to have driven the rebel group’s choice of its HQ..

Geography and tribal structure

Achin district is located 35 kilometers southeast of Jalalabad, the capital of Nangarhar. The Durand Line, Kurram Tribal Agency and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa lie cheek by jowl with Nazyan Kot, Ghanikhel and Spin Ghar and Achin district.

Achin has an area of 350 square kilometers and a population of 150,000 --all of them Pashtuns from Shinwari and Alisher Khel tribes. Majority of residents of the district are reliant on agricultural, cultivating wheat, maize, potatoes, cotton, onion and others crops.

Where Daesh fighters came from

A source close to the group confided to Pajhwok Afghan News that five years ago when Pakistani forces launched operations in Orakzai and Khyber agencies, families of Daesh fighters started sneaking into Achin. Most of them were Pakistani militants.

The rebels then built seminaries and cultivated local residents, as well as the Taliban, the source said, adding the predominantly Salafi fighter gradually joined forces with Daesh. The move caused differences within the Taliban groups.

Salafis from Kunar, Nuristan, Nangarhar and a number other provinces joined Daesh in Achin and converted the district into their stronghold. Daesh wanted to extend sweep to the north through Sarobi and Tagab districts, but its plans had been foiled by Afghan and foreign forces, the source revealed.

Despite losing many dreaded commanders and leaders, Daesh still has several training centres in Achin. Nangarhar police spokesman, Col. Hazrat Hussain Mashraqiwal said: “Daesh has chosen Achin as its base where the rebels could easily receive supplies from across the Durand Line.”

Achin district chief, Haji Ghalib Mujahid, confirmed more than a thousand families had arrived the district from across the border and most of them gradually joined the IS insurgents.

Daesh planned to capture Achin and convert it to a launching area for attacks on other parts of the country, but its plan has been frustrated and its hideouts changed into its graveyard by Afghan forces.

Pounded by Afghan forces, hundreds of Daesh families have fled back to areas across the Durand Line, Mujahid claimed, saying the group had been weakened significantly by the recent offensives.

A tribal elder from Achin, Shal Bacha Shinwari, said that Daesh had settled in the district in order to receive supplies from across the border without any problem. Another motive was that Pakistan had plan to destabilise Achin and pave the ground for its occupation.

He said despite the fact that tribes in Goshta and other border towns stood united, Pakistan occupied some area of the district. However, Pakistan could not do so in the Shinwari district, therefore it tried to disrupt security of the area, he maintained.

Cruelty of insurgents

Local officials say Daesh fighters, for the first time after their arrival in Achin, massacred 12 people including elders in a bomb attack and hanged and shot a number of other people in Kot, Nazyan and Haska Mina districts in a show of strength.

Scene of conflict

Experts and officials say Achin district, lying close to the Durand Line and having forests and mountains, is an ideal sanctuary for militants. Afghan forces conduct operations in nearby areas and districts and attack rebels in Momand, Pikha and Shadal areas.

The areas are under the control of Daesh, but Afghan forces and uprising groups have recently established security posts there and curtailed rebel activity to a large extent, commentators claim.

More at link.

Madison320
04-13-2017, 01:00 PM
About the only think Trump has left is to blow a massive hole in the budget. I was really hoping Hillary would get elected so that the dollar collapse would get correctly blamed on socialism. Now it's going to get blamed on free market capitalism. The "good" news is that when Bernie Sanders get elected in 2020, along with a democratic house and senate (calm down Zippy, take deep breaths), most of the normal socialist stuff will be impossible to implement. Borrow? Nope. Print? Nope. Tax? Maybe.

A. Havnes
04-13-2017, 01:04 PM
Is Trump using Spock's logic from The Galileo Seven?

No, that gamble was made to save the lives of the remaining crew, not blow a bunch of people to bits.

timosman
04-13-2017, 01:06 PM
About the only think Trump has left is to blow a massive hole in the budget. I was really hoping Hillary would get elected so that the dollar collapse would get correctly blamed on socialism. Now it's going to get blamed on free market capitalism. The "good" news is that when Bernie Sanders get elected in 2020, along with a democratic house and senate (calm down Zippy, take deep breaths), most of the normal socialist stuff will be impossible to implement. Borrow? Nope. Print? Nope. Tax? Maybe.

Trump will blow a hole in the budget and then take us through bankruptcy. The communists will start with a clean slate correcting the mistakes of the previous regime.:rolleyes:

TheTexan
04-13-2017, 01:07 PM
I won't be satisfied unless families were killed.

You mean future terrorists. Even ron paul would agree, that the families of people we bomb, have a higher chance of becoming terrorists.

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 01:08 PM
Wooo-hooo. Payback mutherfuckers!


The strike comes just days after a Special Forces soldier was killed in Nangarhar province. Staff Sgt. Mark De Alencar, of 7th Special Forces Group, was killed Saturday by enemy small arms fire while his unit was conducting counter-ISIS operations, according to the Defense Department.

The fact that the U.S. dropped the MOAB in the same province where De Alencar was killed is probably not a coincidence, said Bill Roggio, of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

“There might have been a degree of payback here as well,” Roggio told Military Times. “There’s certainly nothing wrong with that, especially if you’re killing your enemy.”

https://www.airforcetimes.com/articles/military-gbu-43-moab-bomb-dropped-in-afghanistan

EBounding
04-13-2017, 01:10 PM
So...what exactly is ISIS-K now? Is this the good ISIS or the usually bad ISIS?

TheCount
04-13-2017, 01:11 PM
You mean future terrorists. Even ron paul would agree, that the families of people we bomb, have a higher chance of becoming terrorists.No. Both you and Ron Paul are wrong. You see, after a long period of alt right education, I have learned that minor environmental factors such as their entire family being murdered are not responsible for the actions of people. Those people were already genetically terrorists before we bombed their families.

timosman
04-13-2017, 01:13 PM
No, you're wrong. You see, after a long period of alt right education, I have learned that minor environmental factors such as their entire family being murdered are not responsible for the actions of people. Those people were already genetically terrorists before we bombed their families.

This is a very valid point. I am not sure how could anybody miss that. :rolleyes:

AuH20
04-13-2017, 01:14 PM
No. Both you and Ron Paul are wrong. You see, after a long period of alt right education, I have learned that minor environmental factors such as their entire family being murdered are not responsible for the actions of people. Those people were already genetically terrorists before we bombed their families.

The CIA and the Mossad are bound to embark on a torrid recruiting campaign after this setback.

TheCount
04-13-2017, 01:16 PM
This is a very valid point. I am not sure how could anybody miss that. :rolleyes:It's a really common misunderstanding, actually. I'd lived in the dark for decades before I was enlightened (in the Political Philosophy subforum, of course) as to the genetic basis of the entirety of human action.

timosman
04-13-2017, 01:16 PM
The CIA and the Mossad are bound to embark on a torrid recruiting campaign after this setback.

The volume of the applications went through the roof. Nobody wants to be the last one holding the bag.

TheCount
04-13-2017, 01:17 PM
The CIA and the Mossad are bound to embark on a torrid recruiting campaign after this setback.Why? Genetic terrorists are going to genetically terrorize regardless of anyone else's actions. It's genetically inevitable.

timosman
04-13-2017, 01:18 PM
It's a really common misunderstanding, actually. I'd lived in the dark for decades before I was enlightened (in the Political Philosophy subforum, of course) as to the genetic basis of the entirety of human action.

Of course, but you have to admit genetics being a new science and all it is pretty easy to make this mistake. I guess I am trying to say do not be so hard on yourself now that you straightened yourself out.

dannno
04-13-2017, 01:21 PM
No. Both you and Ron Paul are wrong. You see, after a long period of alt right education, I have learned that minor environmental factors such as their entire family being murdered are not responsible for the actions of people. Those people were already genetically terrorists before we bombed their families.

I've actually never heard that argument before, or anything like it.

I have heard the argument that a combination of blowback and religious extremism causing lower IQ refugees and others who aren't even refugees to take advantage of the situation and leave for Europe to live in socialist countries and that is causing the decline of Europe and much of western civilization.. but I haven't heard any arguments about low IQ causing terrorism, or US violence in the middle east not causing blowback.

TheCount
04-13-2017, 01:28 PM
I've actually never heard that argument before, or anything like it.That would be because you don't read your own posts before pressing the 'submit' button.

AuH20
04-13-2017, 01:32 PM
Why? Genetic terrorists are going to genetically terrorize regardless of anyone else's actions. It's genetically inevitable.

Bomb making isn't a trial and error occupation.

timosman
04-13-2017, 01:34 PM
This thread has been officially derailed.

jmdrake
04-13-2017, 01:37 PM
If we can't drop nukes, let's build munitions that are even bigger then the nukes!!! MAGA you cucks!!!

Only thing that could make a MOAB greater is if it was filled with "depleted" uranium so it would be a dirty bomb too. MAGA! MAGA! MAGA MAGA MAGA!

TheCount
04-13-2017, 01:38 PM
Bomb making isn't a trial and error occupation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4179664/Senior-ISIS-bomb-expert-accidentally-blows-up.html

http://observer.com/2017/02/terrorists-occupational-hazards-are-blessings-in-disguise/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36283079

http://hamodia.com/2017/02/05/top-hamas-bomb-maker-killed-work-accident/

Danke
04-13-2017, 01:39 PM
I want this one, wonder if I can get it on the Russian black market.

"The US just dropped a 21,600-pound conventional bomb in Afghanistan. The bomb, the Massive Ordinance Air Blast, nicknamed the "Mother of All Bombs" because of its acronym, is the largest nonnuclear bomb in the US's arsenal. But Russia has an even bigger one.The so-called father of all bombs is about four times as big as the MOAB. It's a thermobaric bomb (http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-tested-foab-eight-years-ago-today-2015-9)with a destruction radius of nearly 1,000 feet and a blast yield of nearly 44 tons of TNT.
Thermobaric weapons differ from conventional bombs in that they combine with atmospheric oxygen to greatly extend the blast radius.
Developed in 2007, the FOAB explodes in midair, igniting a fuel-air mixture. It is designed to vaporize targets and collapse structures, producing powerful blasts and aftershocks but without the same radioactive fallout."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRoCPrZYHD8

klamath
04-13-2017, 01:44 PM
That would be because you don't read your own posts before pressing the 'submit' button.That cracked me up.
:D:D

Wooden Indian
04-13-2017, 02:02 PM
That would be because you don't read your own posts before pressing the 'submit' button.

https://img.memesuper.com/e47558423df43bbccf26ea45e51ee345_plus-i-use-eem-as-in-em-like-ha-got-eem-meme_592-588.jpeg

JK/SEA
04-13-2017, 02:16 PM
This thread has been officially derailed.


doesn't matter.

everyone in here is falling for this MSM fake news.

AuH20
04-13-2017, 02:38 PM
There are some wicked things in those tunnels in Afghanistan and I'm not referring to the human kind.

Anti Federalist
04-13-2017, 02:39 PM
It's a thermobaric bomb with a destruction radius of nearly 1,000 feet

Pffft...We had that shit 50 years ago...stoopid commies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-55

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 02:45 PM
WTF? No footage of the MAGA MOAB? Sad.

Jan2017
04-13-2017, 02:46 PM
There are some wicked things in those tunnels in Afghanistan and I'm not referring to the human kind.

I thought George W. was gonna nuke the whole mountain of Tora Bora when bin Laden got lost down in the cave tunnels

30 ft long MOAB is a thin aluminum shell, so that structure doesn't interfere with a shock wave blast that hits a one mile radius

dannno
04-13-2017, 02:50 PM
That would be because you don't read your own posts before pressing the 'submit' button.

That is wrong, you have totally mischaracterized the argument into almost the opposite of what it is.


I've actually never heard that argument before, or anything like it.

I have heard the argument that a combination of blowback and religious extremism causing lower IQ refugees and others who aren't even refugees to take advantage of the situation and leave for Europe to live in socialist countries and that is causing the decline of Europe and much of western civilization.. but I haven't heard any arguments about low IQ causing terrorism, or US violence in the middle east not causing blowback.

Your post said that what was being argued was low IQ people causing terrorism because they are low IQ, and blowback not existing.

Sorry, but one of those has never been argued, and the other the precise opposite has been argued. So you lying and being intellectually dishonest.

TheCount
04-13-2017, 03:00 PM
Your post said that what was being argued was low IQ people causing terrorism because they are low IQ, and blowback not existing.

Sorry, but one of those has never been argued, and the other the precise opposite has been argued. So you lying and being intellectually dishonest.I must just be confused, then. So... some types of criminal behavior - such as murder and rape - are genetically based, but others - such as terrorism - are not. And the effects of environmental factors must be much larger on those non-genetic crimes than on the genetic crimes.

I guess I still have a lot of alt-right learnings to do.

Pizzo
04-13-2017, 03:00 PM
doesn't matter.

everyone in here is falling for this MSM fake news.

So we didn't drop a Moab? Do you have any articles disputing that we did because I'd be interested in reading them. Thanks.

undergroundrr
04-13-2017, 03:03 PM
So we didn't drop a Moab? Do you have any articles disputing that we did because I'd be interested in reading them. Thanks.

Looks to me like the MSM is printing a press release from trump's MIC proxy word for word. If it's fake news, it's trump's fake news.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
04-13-2017, 03:08 PM
So you [TheCount are] lying and being intellectually dishonest.

NO and No again! TheCount being disingenuous? Impossible! He is truly for liberty! I know that because he opposes Donald Trump!

undergroundrr
04-13-2017, 03:17 PM
I guess I still have a lot of alt-right learnings to do.

If you hit yourself in the head a few times with a blunt object just right, it will all start to make sense.

undergroundrr
04-13-2017, 03:23 PM
Wooo-hooo. Payback mutherfuckers!
https://www.airforcetimes.com/articles/military-gbu-43-moab-bomb-dropped-in-afghanistan

Maybe Ivanka had an emotional reaction and acted accordingly. He left behind a wife and five kids. Raise a glass, this is for them.

http://www.militarytimes.com/photos/staff-sgt-mark-de-alencar-returns-home

dannno
04-13-2017, 03:54 PM
I must just be confused, then. So... some types of criminal behavior - such as murder and rape - are genetically based, but others - such as terrorism - are not.

Well they could be, but I don't have any scientific data to prove it. There is scientific data to show that the IQ "sweet spot" for criminality is around 85. Go lower, less criminality and violence - go higher, less criminality and violence. It just happens that African Americans average IQ is 85. African Americans also have a higher prevalence of the "warrior gene" which leads to more violence. But really, the biggest factor for crime and violence is single motherhood. That is something that could easily and quickly be impacted with some honest discussion and helping to shift the culture and laws that create those problems.

As far as terrorism, like I said I haven't seen any studies linking low IQ to terrorism but if you have any go ahead and post it. It's an interesting hypothesis. However the only evidence I have put forward is that terrorism is caused by blowback from US intervention in the middle east combined with religious extremism. The low IQ comes into play when the 'refugees' in Europe try to assimilate and all end up on welfare with no chicks and start getting involved in gang raping and such. I've posted videos of Stefan Molyneux going into fits of rage about how much US military violence against these countries leads to terrorism, and all I get back is "I don't have an attention span, his videos are too long, waahhhh!!"

Then you have the gal to come here and say that I have claimed that US interventions don't cause terrorism? Honestly, if I were a mod, this is the type of shit I would be banning people for, that is how egregious it is imo. It makes the forum look bad, it is obfuscation and intellectual dishonesty.

milgram
04-13-2017, 03:56 PM
There's one for everything

http://i.imgur.com/oSlF66S.jpg

Occam's Banana
04-13-2017, 05:12 PM
Wooo-hooo. Payback mutherfuckers!


The fact that the U.S. dropped the MOAB in the same province where De Alencar was killed is probably not a coincidence, said Bill Roggio, of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

“There might have been a degree of payback here as well,” Roggio told Military Times. “There’s certainly nothing wrong with that, especially if you’re killing your enemy.”

I wonder if Roggio will be this glib when the US starts getting "payback" for this.

Somehow, I doubt he'll be telling us, "There's certainly nothing wrong with that ..."

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 05:26 PM
I wonder if Roggio will be this glib when the US starts getting "payback" for this.

Somehow, I doubt he'll be telling us, "There's certainly nothing wrong with that ..."

I think you are right.

CPUd
04-13-2017, 05:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x01BnN6B6VQ

enhanced_deficit
04-13-2017, 07:05 PM
If this not fakenews from art of the bluff book, does Trump know for sure that any civilians were not processed by such a smart ( or was this one a dumb bombs) moab?



Related

Trump: "No child of God should ever suffer such horror" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509736-Trump-quot-No-child-of-God-should-ever-suffer-such-horror-quot&)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7_ONdfXgAAcdc-.jpg:large


TSA Agent "Screening" Young Boy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509105-TSA-Agent-quot-Screening-quot-Young-Boy&)



http://hbz.h-cdn.co/assets/17/14/980x490/landscape-1491605053-hbz-trump-hypocrisy-index.jpg

CPUd
04-13-2017, 08:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_mON4Qbcw

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 08:40 PM
If this not fakenews from art of the bluff book, does Trump know for sure that any civilians were not processed by such a smart ( or was this one a dumb bombs) moab?



Related

Trump: "No child of God should ever suffer such horror" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509736-Trump-quot-No-child-of-God-should-ever-suffer-such-horror-quot&)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7_ONdfXgAAcdc-.jpg:large


TSA Agent "Screening" Young Boy (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509105-TSA-Agent-quot-Screening-quot-Young-Boy&)



http://hbz.h-cdn.co/assets/17/14/980x490/landscape-1491605053-hbz-trump-hypocrisy-index.jpg


He explodes bombs against those who would rob us of our freedom. The biggest, Got a problem with that?

Brian4Liberty
04-13-2017, 08:50 PM
On the plus side, the MSM is finally cheerful, and even ecstatic these days. The MSM that had been angry, scolding, sarcastic, venomous and hysterical for six months is now giddy as they report on the Syria and Afghanistan strikes. It's like they are reporting on the Academy Awards, the Super Bowl, New Years Eve and a new amusement park all at once.

timosman
04-13-2017, 08:51 PM
On the plus side, the MSM is finally cheerful, and even ecstatic these days. The MSM that had been angry, scolding, sarcastic, venomous and hysterical for six months is now giddy as they report on the Syria and Afghanistan strikes. It's like they are reporting on the Academy Awards, the Super Bowl, New Years Eve and a new amusement park all at once.

One big happy family.:rolleyes:

phill4paul
04-13-2017, 09:05 PM
At least give me a good,God damned picture...

Was it like this? This? Light 'em up. Uhhahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn8h1_Xv5I/UYo2GFnZuYI/AAAAAAAALs0/Asmb87Y3Y-0/s1600/jericho-missile.gif

Slave Mentality
04-13-2017, 09:57 PM
They hate us for our freedoms. Better to fight them there than The Homeland. What do you like ISIS or something? They have to do this to beat ISIS.

A good portion of the YouTube comments. I've said it and I'm going to say it again. Turn out the lights, the party's over. Thoughts of liberty around here ain't happening. It's like an ant trying to push a watermelon FFS.

I do not conscent. It's going to be a nice weekend at least.

Ender
04-13-2017, 10:11 PM
At least give me a good,God damned picture...

Was it like this? This? Light 'em up. Uhhahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3wn8h1_Xv5I/UYo2GFnZuYI/AAAAAAAALs0/Asmb87Y3Y-0/s1600/jericho-missile.gif

Can we at least have Iron Man? Please?

Origanalist
04-13-2017, 11:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9Vrdw9XgAExAC8.jpg

AZJoe
04-14-2017, 02:27 AM
After 13 years of continuous unsuccessful war between the largest, most powerful military on the planet versus a ragtag coalition of farmers, Washington's most "brilliant" decides the ultimate solution is to drop the largest bomb in the world on some shacks, at a cost of $20 million for the bomb and operation.
Yeah - that's the ticket! So glad they're putting America First.

TheTexan
04-14-2017, 03:13 AM
Did the MOAB that got dropped in Afghanistan literally turn that desert into a glass parking lot? That'd be neat.

timosman
04-14-2017, 03:13 AM
After 13 years of continuous unsuccessful war between the largest, most powerful military on the planet versus a ragtag coalition of farmers, Washington's most "brilliant" decides the ultimate solution is to drop the largest bomb in the world on some shacks, at a cost of $20 million for the bomb and operation.
Yeah - that's the ticket! So glad they're putting America First.

We also need to get rid of cash because it is used by terrorists to buy food for their camels.

RonPaulFanInGA
04-14-2017, 04:02 AM
BOMB RADIUS DAMAGE

* Up to 1,000 yards: Obliterates everything.

* Up to 1 mile: Knocks people, tents, light buildings, cars and jeeps over within 1-mile radius.

* Up to 1.7 miles: shock wave kills people, causes severe damage to buildings, equipment, blows trucks, tanks off road.

* Up to 2 miles: causes deafness.

* Up to 5 miles: shakes ground, breaks windows.

* Up to 30 miles: 10,000 foot high mushroom cloud visible.

[Source The Lexington Institute and Globalsecurity.org]

Origanalist
04-14-2017, 06:11 AM
We also need to get rid of cash because it is used by terrorists to buy food for their camels.

Hit em where it hurts, getting rid of cash is your patriotic duty.

Jan2017
04-14-2017, 08:38 AM
BOMB RADIUS DAMAGE

* Up to 1,000 yards: Obliterates everything.

* Up to 1 mile: Knocks people, tents, light buildings, cars and jeeps over within 1-mile radius.

* Up to 1.7 miles: shock wave kills people, causes severe damage to buildings, equipment, blows trucks, tanks off road.

* Up to 2 miles: causes deafness.

* Up to 5 miles: shakes ground, breaks windows.

* Up to 30 miles: 10,000 foot high mushroom cloud visible.

[Source The Lexington Institute and Globalsecurity.org]

Yup, that sounds right.
30 foot long MOAB is "thermobaric" . . .
a 1000ft radius of inferno, and with a thin aluminum shell so that the bomb's design doesn't obstruct the bomb's shock wave, in order
to be more "Hiroshima-esque".

Recall that the Hiroshima shock wave reflected off the mountains and the reflected blast still destroyed brick buildings on the mountain rebound.

Mordan
04-14-2017, 08:54 AM
On the plus side, the MSM is finally cheerful, and even ecstatic these days. The MSM that had been angry, scolding, sarcastic, venomous and hysterical for six months is now giddy as they report on the Syria and Afghanistan strikes. It's like they are reporting on the Academy Awards, the Super Bowl, New Years Eve and a new amusement park all at once.

Did you see the woman interviewing Trump about the Syria' strike? She is smiling. She loves the war. the MSM and its owners love the war, they love that Trump is their puppet now. Watch Trump's face. He seems deflated. Watch. Compare with just a week ago.
It is just very high probability Trump was compromised. The deep state managed to make Trump their puppet and Trump knows it. Just think about who is immune to the deep state power to grind you to puppet pulp?

CPUd
04-14-2017, 10:48 AM
852883925273858051
https://twitter.com/butlersheriff/status/852883925273858051

Jan2017
04-14-2017, 11:57 AM
It is just very high probability Trump was compromised. The deep state managed to make Trump their puppet and Trump knows it. Just think about who is immune to the deep state power to grind you to puppet pulp?

Trump was half bent-over walking off-stage in front of the NATO Secretary General . . .

Soon on all fours being made into their prison bitch (?)

TheCount
04-14-2017, 12:44 PM
Trump was half bent-over walking off-stage in front of the NATO Secretary General . . .He was trying to hide his war boner.

DamianTV
04-14-2017, 01:29 PM
So, uh, MOAB, Mother of ALL Bombs...

Forget the ‘mother of all bombs,’ meet the Russian-made ‘daddy’
https://www.rt.com/viral/384743-moab-russia-father-bomb/


https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.04/original/58f0c227c361888e388b45d4.jpg
(The bomb is four times more powerful than the one dropped by the US in Afghanistan. © Reuters / Reuters )

The US boasts that its GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb (MOAB), known as the ‘Mother of all bombs’, is the largest ever non-nuclear bomb used in combat but, don’t be fooled, Russia possess something far superior. Kids, meet Daddy.

The Aviation Thermobaric Bomb of Increased Power, known as the ‘Father of all bombs’ (FOAB), was developed by Russia in 2007 and eclipses its US rival in both power and efficiency.

It can inflict a 44 ton-yield when detonated, compared to the 11-ton-yield of the mother. Unlike its US counterpart though it’s less hefty, weighing in at 7,100kg compared to 8,200kg.

READ MORE: Meet the ‘Mother Of All Bombs’: 6 facts about bomb Trump dropped on Afghanistan (https://www.rt.com/usa/384669-6-facts-moab-bomb-afghanistan/)

The FOAB explodes mid-air, combining with atmospheric oxygen to extend the blast radius as it vaporizes targets and collapses structures. Gases are burnt within the vicinity of the blast producing a vacuum, which can drag objects in towards the center of the explosion.

Following its 2007 test, the location of which is unknown, the targeted area was left with scorched earth described as looking “more like the surface of the moon.”

Alexander Rukshin, a deputy chief of the Russian armed forces, said at the time it showed “its effectiveness and capabilities are comparable to nuclear weapons. At the same time use of this weapon does not damage or pollute the environment, like a nuclear weapons.”

...

More at link.

CPUd
04-14-2017, 01:34 PM
We're losing to Russia

Jan2017
04-14-2017, 02:11 PM
We're losing to Russia

Well, . . . "The MOAB isn't the heaviest nonnuclear bomb in the US arsenal — that's the 30,000-pound Massive Ordinance Penetrator."

The 30,000-pound bomb that could be used against Iran's nuclear facilities 'boggles the mind'
"The Obama administration and any future US president will have what Michael Crowley of Politico describes as an awe-inspiring "plan B" —
the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)."
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-30000-pound-bomb-that-could-be-used-against-irans-nuclear-facilities-boggles-the-mind-2015-6

The 20 ft "bunker buster" is "precision-guided"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator

nikcers
04-14-2017, 04:03 PM
One of my c/w told me they were so glad that we dropped the MOAB. He said he thinks we should do what we did in Viet Nam because we almost won, and that we could of won if we would of just kept going.

kpitcher
04-14-2017, 05:21 PM
The onion actually had a good point :

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/new-bomb-capable-of-creating-1500-new-terrorists-i-8778


New Bomb Capable Of Creating 1,500 New Terrorists In Single Blast


They also had "Trump confident U.S. Military Strike WIped Out Russian Scandal"

TheTexan
04-14-2017, 05:25 PM
One of my c/w told me they were so glad that we dropped the MOAB. He said he thinks we should do what we did in Viet Nam because we almost won, and that we could of won if we would of just kept going.

America did win that war. Anyone who says we lost that war is full of shit

nikcers
04-14-2017, 10:40 PM
America did win that war. Anyone who says we lost that war is full of $#@!
I'm kinda excited for WWIII. (https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/65hd41/im_kinda_excited_for_wwiii/) (self.teenagers (https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/))

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Can't wait to go around and shoot motherfuckers like I did in battlefield one.
I mean you can get shot to, but it's not that bad. If you're going through too much pain, you can commit suicide with a bullet to your head anytime you want. no more /all for me today.

TheTexan
04-14-2017, 10:44 PM
I'm kinda excited for WWIII. (https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/comments/65hd41/im_kinda_excited_for_wwiii/) (self.teenagers (https://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers/))

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no more /all for me today.

That kid is a great American. His parents should be very proud

AZJoe
04-16-2017, 03:35 AM
https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17861973_1925897864297138_8404069670875076475_n.jp g?oh=72112a2d6cac8b6d5baae000e3ac946b&oe=594F9DD5

AZJoe
04-18-2017, 03:44 AM
Washington's Aggression: A Threat to the World (http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/17/america-aggression-a-threat-to-the-world/)

The war machine that is the United States of America, not content with threatening the world with its missile attack on a Syria airbase, not content with massing its forces around the Korean Peninsular and threatening to murder its leaders and massacre its people, not content with its escalating hostility towards Russia and China, decided the world needed one more demonstration of its power today, Thursday, April 13 by dropping its most powerful non-nuclear bomb on an Afghanistan saturated with its bombs. ...

The news that ISIS is now in Afghanistan may surprise some. The US and others claim that elements of ISIS have “fled” into Afghanistan, from Iraq and Syria, ...

In Afghanistan it seems the Americans either need a force to counter the Taliban forces that have succeeded in gaining some legitimacy internationally or they are just relabeling Afghan resistance forces as ISIS to try to justify their claim that their world mission is to eliminate ISIS. One could think that instead of fleeing into Afghanistan, the ISIS units, if they are really going there, are not fleeing but being sent there by the nation that claims to hunt them. ... ISIS now fills in for “communist” in the new American order ... How long will it be before they claim ISIS elements are operating in Russia and Iran and so the chase has to continue there as well?...

this was the excuse the Americans have given for using the “mother of all bombs” for the first time in combat ... was this really just to hit a local guerrilla base or for something else, ... a demonstration to North Korea of the capacities of the US forces to destroy ... It was a warning; this is what is coming from the sky unless you obey our diktats ...

It was also a demonstration to the Russians, Pakistanis and Chinese ... as they conduct their peace talks initiative with India, Iran and Afghanistan. The Americans have no interest in the success of that [peace] initiative. They want control of Afghanistan ... for the Americans, threats and violence are diplomacy. ...

“It’s a weapon that justifies the use of the word “terrifying” to describe its power” ... You have to admire the turn of phrase “military initiative abroad” used for “military aggression against the world.” These propagandists are well schooled. ... “MOAB is thought to be the most fearsome explosive weapon in the Pentagon’s possession…” ...

In fact this demonstration of their power is a demonstration of their fundamental weakness. This weapon is of no practical use in attacking any country with air defence systems ... We saw the American weakness again in the attack on Syria where less than half of the cruise missiles used reached the target. ... losing over half your weapon systems in a few minutes before they even get near the target is not a show of strength but a revelation of vulnerability ...

International law is trampled under American army boots. The United Nations is reduced to a circus in which the Americans and British play destructive clowns. The governments of the NATO war alliance ... are members of a criminal conspiracy ... western news media are reduced to propaganda units ... they have become the fascists and relish the symbols of death, of slaughter, and all but worship war as our destiny and the death of others as a beautiful thing. ...

the existential fact is the world is faced with a threat to its survival and that threat is the [the government of] United States of America.

tod evans
04-18-2017, 03:50 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AZJoe again.

:(

goldenequity
04-20-2017, 01:08 PM
Satellite Image of Bomb Aftermath

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C93Wy5lXUAUnY9k.jpg:large

undergroundrr
04-21-2017, 10:55 AM
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/04/19/us-troops-fighting-isis-fighters-at-site-of-moab-bombing/


US Troops Fighting ISIS Fighters at Site of MOAB Bombing
Adds More Doubts That Massive Bombing Did Anything
by Jason Ditz, April 19, 2017

Last week, the US deployed the MOAB “Mother of All Bombs” in Afghanistan for the first time ever, dropping iit in a remote part of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar Province, supposedly against ISIS tunnels. Today, Pentagon officials confirmed that US ground troops are near the site of the bombing, still fighting ISIS forces.

The MOAB is the largest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed by the US, but what it actually accomplished is unclear, as the Pentagon has not confirmed any death tolls, and is keeping the site off-limits. That there are still ISIS fighters there to fight against, however, suggests that the MOAB was far from decisive.

Afghan officials have offered a pair of death tolls, initially claiming 36 and then revising it up to 96. ISIS is denying both, insisting that none of their fighters were actually killed in the bombing. No evidence has been offered of any death toll at any rate.

US officials appear to be trying to shift the narrative on the use of MOAB away from Afghanistan, insisting instead that the strike sends a message about President Trump’s “resolve” to other US enemies, particularly North Korea. For the sake of “sending a message,” the fact that the strike appears not to have accomplished anything is very much beside the point.

EBounding
04-21-2017, 11:24 AM
http://news.antiwar.com/2017/04/19/us-troops-fighting-isis-fighters-at-site-of-moab-bombing/

It's sad to see the anti-war Trump supporters spinning in the comments.

phill4paul
04-21-2017, 06:29 PM
Tally: 5 goat herders and 75 adult goat and 15 kids.

Think of the baby goats Kids!

Jan2017
04-22-2017, 05:35 PM
Satellite Image of Bomb Aftermath

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C93Wy5lXUAUnY9k.jpg:large


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_uilffuhZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_uilffuhZg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZlDct1EYRM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZlDct1EYRM

Aerial footage captures ‘mother of all bombs’ striking tunnel system in Achin

Aerial footage released on Friday, captured an airstrike from the United States military that dropped the largest non-nuclear bomb ever used, nicknamed the ‘mother of all bombs,’
on a militant tunnel system in the Achin district of Nangarhar province, close to the border with Pakistan on Thursday.

The over 21,000 lb (10-tonne) GBU-43 bomb, or ‘MOAB’, was dropped by a MC-130 aircraft at around 19:00 local time (14:30 GMT).

The strike reportedly killed 36 suspected militants aligned with the self-proclaimed Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in the mountainous region.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/aerial-footage-captures-mother-bombs-striking-tunnel-system-achin/

enhanced_deficit
04-23-2017, 11:53 AM
What's next step for Trump's Afghan war strategy?


Deadly "mother of all attacks on the Afghan military" shakes Afghan government

At least 140 feared dead after Taliban attack

6 hours ago
The Taliban’s deadliest assault on a military base in Afghanistan has claimed more than 100 casualties, highlighting the militant group’s growing influence in the country. Sample the FT’s top stories for a week You select the topic, we deliver the news. Select topic Enter email address Invalid email By signing up you confirm that you have read and agree to the terms and conditions, cookie policy and privacy policy. Ten Taliban fighters disguised in army uniform drove into the Mazar-e-Sharif army base in northern Afghanistan on Friday during prayers, attacking soldiers in an area that is outside the Islamist group’s traditional southern strongholds. The attack comes just days after an American air strike killed nine members of the Taliban in northern Afghanistan and will be seen as a blow to the US-led campaign against militants. Earlier this month, the US dropped its largest non-nuclear bomb on Isis hideouts in a Taliban-controlled area in southern Afghanistan, in what was seen as a more aggressive policy from the Trump administration against Islamists of all types. Afghanistan’s President Ashraf Ghani declared a national day of mourning on Sunday and said he would investigate the “atrocious and barbarous” attack.

The Taliban has proved resilient in the face of a 16-year war led by the US. Its influence has grown despite resistance from the US-backed Afghan army, more than 6,000 of whom died between January and November last year, according to an audit submitted to the US Congress in January. “The numbers of the Afghan security forces are decreasing, while both casualties and the number of districts under insurgent control or influence are increasing,” said the report from the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction. Mazar-e-Sharif is one of the Afghanistan army’s largest military bases in the northern part of the country, which has traditionally remained outside the influence of the Taliban. In July last year, former US President Barack Obama said he would delay the drawdown of troops from the country in response to what he called the “precarious” security situation.

In February this year, General John Nicholson, commander of the US forces in Afghanistan, called for the US to commit several thousand more troops to the country to break the “stalemate” in the country. Western diplomats say the US and other countries with stakes in Afghanistan face the risk of a growing Taliban advance unless urgent measures are taken to bolster the country’s security apparatus. James Dorsey of the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore warned that the attack raised questions about whether there had been “inside help” for the Taliban attackers. “It certainly does not bode well for morale within the Afghan military and adds to doubts of its military to defeat the Taliban” he told the FT. “One question is whether Friday’s attack was the Taliban’s response to the US use of the ‘mother of all bombs’,” he said. “Friday’s attack looks like the mother of all attacks on the Afghan military.”

https://www.ft.com/content/677e22cc-27f7-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7



Related

Former Afghan President Karzai Calls Islamic State 'Tool' of US (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509977-Former-Afghan-President-Karzai-Calls-Islamic-State-Tool-of-US&)

Trump repeating Obama's Afghan failures? 100+ US funded soldiers killed a week after MOAB drop (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509979-Trump-repeating-Obama-s-Afghan-failures-100-US-funded-soldiers-killed-a-week-after-MOAB-drop&)

undergroundrr
04-23-2017, 12:15 PM
https://mises.org/blog/efficiency-pentagon-big-bomb-killed-militants-4722-each


Efficiency: Pentagon Big Bomb Killed Militants at $4,722 Each
04/21/2017
Dale Steinreich

Renowned surreal fiction writer Franz Kafka would have had trouble conceiving of a more absurd plot than last week's dropping of a 30-foot, 22,000-pound conventional bomb on poverty-stricken, war-ravaged Afghanistan right before Good Friday which commemorates the Prince of Peace.

The $170,000 GBU-43/B massive ordnance air blast bomb (MOAB, a.k.a., "mother of all bombs") was dropped on a network of caves where it annihilated everything within 1,000 yards including allegedly 36 ISIS fighters. This means that at least $4,722 was spent to kill each militant.

Based on more than a decade of suspect figures from the US-controlled Afghan government, where dead hunters, farmers, and goat herders have been fudged as Taliban, al Qaeda, or ISIS fighters, the 36-casualities figure comes with major caveats, as a subsequent figure of 94 casualties warrants even more skepticism. No civilian casualties have been admitted so far, which seems unlikely given Afghanistan's hunter-gatherer-agrarian economy where even in the remotest areas, civilians are seldom far from clusters of militants.

But this latest adventure in military central planning goes well beyond the usual brazen government waste and fudged numbers. Afghanistan's chapter of ISIS is a bizarre invented threat to the US. It consists of only about 700 members who are mostly former Taliban. Even more ironic, the cave complex that was bombed is situated in Nangarhar province, where the US CIA spent almost a decade and more than $3 billion (almost $6 billion in today's dollars) on arms, training, and fortifying/enlarging mountain cave and tunnel systems (the most famous being Tora Bora) for Osama bin Laden and his mujahedeen's use in its proxy war against the Soviets from 1979–1989.

Did the Big Bomb Send a Message to the US's Enemies?

Regnant speculation is that Donald Trump and the Pentagon were sending an intimidating message to North Korea, Iran, China, and Russia that the US is not to be tangled with. Skeptical military analysts dismiss this as nonsense. The unwieldy MOAB has to be delivered from a massive and slow aircraft such as a Lockeed MC-130 that would never survive significant penetration of the airspace of any nation with an adequate air force or air-defense system.

"Afghanistan is a US military property not all that different from White Sands [New Mexico]. The whole operation was a massive public-relations fraud. They would have done taxpayers a huge favor burning $170,000 in a bonfire at White Sands," one analyst told me. "At least that would have assured no blowback," he added.

How Military Central Planning Unwittingly Created ISIS

The final irony of the MOAB bombing? ISIS. Its story begins with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who literally followed US troops into Iraq after their invasion in March of 2003. Taking full advantage of the US invasion's destruction of Iraq's social order, by August Zarqawi had not only set up Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (JTJ) in Iraq but bombed the Jordanian embassy, Canal Hotel, and Shi'ite Imam Ali Mosque, killing a combined 125 people and maiming/injuring countless others.

In October of the following year, JTJ changed its name to Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). This made sense since Zarqawi was a protégé/frenemy of former US ally and al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden. Two years later, in October of 2006, AQI became the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI). In August of 2011, ISI helped form the al-Nusra Front in Syria. Finally, in April of 2013, al-Nusra and ISI combined into the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Thus ISIS was born, and scooping up US weapons, vehicles, and millions of dollars in CIA cash in attacks, robberies, and burglaries around Iraq, it became one of the most well-armed and financed terrorist organizations in the world.

So here's the gist of MOAB: the US government dropped a $170,000 big bomb on dirt poor, destitute Afghanistan on militants living in a cave complex that it had originally helped construct to kill a tiny portion of a small, non-indigenous terrorist group that it had helped create 3,000 miles away in perhaps its greatest military blunder 14 years ago. And to top it all off, this pointless bombing was, according to US President Donald Trump, a rousing "successful job."

Kafka would be proud.

Brian4Liberty
04-24-2017, 03:22 PM
5712

The Mother of all Firecrackers...


But Reuters photographs from the scene of the blast in Nangarhar province in eastern Afghanistan gave an ambiguous sense of the bomb’s power.

Afghan special forces troops entered one of the caves used by suspected Isil fighters and found the tunnels apparently undamaged by the explosion.

Trees immediately around the blast site had scorched branches and a few small houses were partially destroyed.

But only a few hundred yards away other trees were perfectly intact and still had leaves on their branches, belying claims that the explosion may have sent a destructive blast wave for up to a mile, according to Reuters.
...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/24/pictures-reveal-inside-afghan-caves-mother-bombs-blast-site/

undergroundrr
04-24-2017, 03:25 PM
5712

The Mother of all Firecrackers...

Stands to reason that the caves America built would be strong enough to withstand America's bombs.