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Suzanimal
04-09-2017, 12:09 PM
By Jack Perry
April 8, 2017

Okay, folks, you won’t be able to know who’s who in this Syrian War without a program! So, without further ado, enjoy!

First off, there’s several different factions over there and not all of them willingly get along. Syria has: Shi’ite Muslims, Sunni Muslims, Syrian Orthodox Christians, a small number of Catholics, Kurds, Alawite Muslims, Druze, Yazidis, and the current imported Wahhabis called ISIS and al-Nusra. The surrounding nations do not all appreciate this mix of diversity. See, Assad is an Alawite Muslim, which is how he could walk the tightrope between these various factions, since the Alawite are a tiny minority themselves.

So…neighboring Iran is Shi’ite and controls the paramilitary militias of Hezbollah and the Revolutionary Guard who have fought in Iraq and Syria. They back Assad and hate ISIS. Iran does not want to see another Sunni nation pop up on its border, which they fear will happen if we topple Assad. The United States always backs Sunni Muslims and so this fear is not without foundation. The animosity between Sunni and Shi’ite is well known. So, Iran can be counted on to supply Hezbollah and Revolutionary Guard martyr brigades to any war in Syria that a would-be Sunni government is seeking to win.

Then we have neighboring Turkey, who hates Assad and ISIS, but also hates the Kurds who are one of our anti-ISIS allies. Turkey would like nothing more than to see Assad toppled and ISIS gone, but after that, the Kurds better not try to create an autonomous republic which is one of their stated goals. In fact, Turkey is engaged in a guerilla war against Kurdish separatists who hit Turkish security forces in Turkey and then run across the border into Syria to escape. The Kurdish militias themselves are mostly quasi-Marxist pseudo-socialists, but all of them are agreed that they will create an autonomous Kurdish republic once this is over. Which the Turks, our NATO ally, will not accept.

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You cannot win this war. It is as simple as that. And this Pollyanna notion that these folks are itching for democracy, fast food chains, Big Box stores, and stupid American movies and music is naïve at best. You will have to airlift the Christians, Mandeans, Sufis, and Yazidis, out of there, more than likely, or they’ll be killed. The Saudis have a big interest in Assad being gone for two reasons: Number One, it isolates Iran. Who they hate because their are Shi’ite. Number Two, they can “helpfully” assist the U.S. in installing a Sunni government that, over time, will become Wahhabi and help export that sect across the Middle East. And the United States is blundering into this nest of multi-headed Hydras eyes wide open.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/jack-perry/cant-fight-war-without-scorecard/

CPUd
04-09-2017, 02:06 PM
the operative word is "hate"

Jan2017
04-09-2017, 02:18 PM
I'm gonna drop this in here . . .
since USS Ross and USS Porter are in a bit more trouble now on the Syria scorecard.

In 2014 USS Ross docks for refueling in Istanbul area and a few sailors get shore leave,
maybe to get some gyros on the boardwalk (?)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GYRYBLSWz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GYRYBLSWz8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A01rCWoKhpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A01rCWoKhpQ

surf
04-09-2017, 05:42 PM
scorecard: sans the usual bastards, we all lose.

pcosmar
04-09-2017, 06:38 PM
the operative word is "hate"

People tend to hate murderous invaders.

RJB
04-09-2017, 07:08 PM
It is all very complicated. The best policy in such situations is to drop a bomb in the middle of it and chant, "'Murica!"

It has worked great in the past.

Jan2017
04-09-2017, 07:09 PM
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/jack-perry/cant-fight-war-without-scorecard/
" the current imported Wahhabis called ISIS and al-Nusra"


fwiw, Russians are implicating rebel group "Jabhat al-Nusra" as responsible for the chemical gas attack -
not Syrians at this base they share.

paraphrasing from subtitles "The Americans hit our ammunition dump - that is where we stored bombs. But if there were chemical weapons there, we would not be able to walk around freely right now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWcXkgyzio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfWcXkgyzio