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Anti Federalist
04-07-2017, 05:01 PM
In big win for Trump, Senate approves his conservative court pick

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-gorsuch-idUSKBN1791GR

The Republican-led Senate on Friday gave Donald Trump the biggest triumph of his young presidency, confirming his Supreme Court nominee over stout Democratic opposition and restoring a conservative majority on the highest U.S. judicial body.

The Senate, which last year refused to consider Democratic former President Barack Obama's nominee to the court, voted 54-45 to approve Republican Trump's pick, Colorado-based federal appeals court judge Neil Gorsuch, to the lifetime job. Three Democrats joined the Republicans in voting for Gorsuch.

Gorsuch's confirmation ends the longest Supreme Court vacancy since 1862 during the American Civil War, with the court down a justice for almost 14 months since long-serving conservative Justice Antonin Scalia died on Feb. 13, 2016.

"Judge Gorsuch's confirmation process was one of the most transparent and accessible in history, and his judicial temperament, exceptional intellect, unparalleled integrity and record of independence makes him the perfect choice to serve on the nation's highest court," Trump said in a statement.

"He's going to make an incredible addition to the court," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on the Senate floor.

Illustrating the importance of the moment, Vice President Mike Pence served as the Senate's presiding officer during the vote to confirm Gorsuch, who also worked in Republican former President George W. Bush's Justice Department and is the son of the first woman to head the Environmental Protection Agency.

Republicans, possessing a 52-48 Senate majority, on Thursday overcame a ferocious Democratic effort to block a confirmation vote, resorting to a rule change known as the "nuclear option."

"Today, for the first time in history, the theft of a Supreme Court seat has been completed, profoundly damaging the integrity of the court," said Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley, referring to Republicans casting aside Obama's nominee Merrick Garland, who would have tilted the court to the left for the first time in decades.

The Senate's approval of Gorsuch reinstates the nine-seat court's 5-4 conservative majority, fulfilling an important Trump campaign promise.

Gorsuch, 49, was the youngest Supreme Court nominee since Republican President George H.W. Bush in 1991 picked Clarence Thomas, who was 43 at the time. Gorsuch could be expected to serve for decades, while Trump could make further appointments to the high court to make it even more solidly conservative because three of the eight justices are 78 or older.

Three Democratic senators up for re-election in 2018 in states won by Trump last year - Indiana's Joe Donnelly, West Virginia's Joe Manchin and North Dakota's Heidi Heitkamp - voted for Gorsuch. Republican Senator Johnny Isakson missed the vote while recovering from back surgery.

Gorsuch's confirmation gave a boost to Trump, showing he can get important agenda items through a Congress controlled by his fellow Republicans after the House of Representatives last month failed to pass healthcare overhaul legislation. Trump is planning major tax cut legislation as well.

dannno
04-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Wow!

Was this part of the Syria plan?

CPUd
04-07-2017, 05:19 PM
Looks like a big win for officer safety.

Murray N Rothbard
04-07-2017, 05:39 PM
Good.

He's not ideal, but for those of us who just want to live out our lives with our rights relatively protected, it's a win. A big damper on things like gun control for example. It buys us time for the principles/message of Liberty to spread and sink in a little while we still have the freedom and means for it to make a difference.

oyarde
04-07-2017, 05:39 PM
Lets get some budget cuts and tax cuts .

misterx
04-07-2017, 05:40 PM
Wasn't Thomas confirmed with 52 votes?

Don't get too excited. This just brings the court back to where it was before Scalia died. If Trump gets to replace another one it will probably be with a liberal the way things are going.

dannno
04-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Wasn't Thomas confirmed with 52 votes?

Don't get too excited. This just brings the court back to where it was before Scalia died. If Trump gets to replace another one it will probably be with a liberal the way things are going.

We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.

misterx
04-07-2017, 05:52 PM
We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.

If it was just the strike, I'd say ok, but it's not. There's cutting Flynn lose, Bannon is removed from the NSC, Sessions is reportedly on the outs with Trump, Ryancare, threatening the freedom caucus, Haley, Mattis, Cohn, Kushner, Ivanka, North Korea, McMaster, Tillerson. The writing is on the wall.

CaptUSA
04-07-2017, 05:54 PM
We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.

Oh geez. Under whose authority did he bomb that molehill?!! Damn you, Dannno. You were much closer to sanity a few hours ago.

But still... I'm pleased with Gorsuch, but it makes me wonder why they had to change the rules. Shoulda just waited em out. Now, the next time the Dems have the Senate, watch out!

dannno
04-07-2017, 05:58 PM
Looks like a big win for officer safety.



Today, I cast the 51st vote to confirm Justice Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. It is a vote I am proud of, and I hope to remain proud of for decades to come.

-Rand Paul..

misterx
04-07-2017, 06:01 PM
Oh geez. Under whose authority did he bomb that molehill?!! Damn you, Dannno. You were much closer to sanity a few hours ago.

But still... I'm pleased with Gorsuch, but it makes me wonder why they had to change the rules. Shoulda just waited em out. Now, the next time the Dems have the Senate, watch out!

Like the Dems don't always get the person they want regardless. Do you think they could've found anyone worse than Sotomayor and Kagan?

CPUd
04-07-2017, 06:07 PM
[/h]..

Gorsuch - US v Rodriguez 2013 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?507150-Gorsuch-US-v-Rodriguez-2013)

phill4paul
04-07-2017, 06:41 PM
Wow!

Was this part of the Syria plan?

Another clown in a gown telling us what the Constitution really means. Yea? :rolleyes:

Dr.No.
04-07-2017, 07:53 PM
Very much dislike the Republicans using the nuclear option on this. 200 years of history down the tube...

kcchiefs6465
04-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Wow!

Was this part of the Syria plan?
Yes. 100 million dollars of destructive waste was clearly to secure a moderately okay supreme court confirmation.

CPUd
04-07-2017, 08:13 PM
Very much dislike the Republicans using the nuclear option on this. 200 years of history down the tube...

It's OK, Mitch said he won't nuke the filibuster for legislation.

Brian4Liberty
04-07-2017, 08:17 PM
In big win for Trump, Senate approves his conservative court pick

Can't wait until Gorsuch declares some action of Trumps unconstitutional.

Dr.No.
04-08-2017, 10:41 PM
It's OK, Mitch said he won't nuke the filibuster for legislation.

That doesn't matter...

undergroundrr
04-17-2018, 12:42 PM
Can't wait until Gorsuch declares some action of Trumps unconstitutional.

http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of


Justice Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's first Supreme Court appointment, cast the deciding vote in a decision released Tuesday that sided with an immigrant fighting his deportation.

Brian4Liberty
04-17-2018, 01:44 PM
http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

Shocked! Shocked to hear this!

axiomata
04-17-2018, 01:50 PM
Is Trump going to fire him?

dannno
04-17-2018, 01:51 PM
http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

LOL, like Trump deports people...

dannno
04-17-2018, 01:52 PM
Is Trump going to fire him?

No.

shakey1
04-17-2018, 02:05 PM
At least he's on record against the Kelo vs City of New London ruling.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/03/28/neil-gorsuch-opposes-the-kelo-decision-a-terrible-supreme-court-property-rights-ruling-that-trump-supports/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.c2044e6299bf

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/when-neil-gorsuch-stood-up-for-the-little-guy

Swordsmyth
04-17-2018, 02:09 PM
http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of

A technical ruling against vague laws, and it wasn't one of Trump's actions just a routine deportation case.

Swordsmyth
04-17-2018, 04:49 PM
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President Trump (http://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) on Tuesday called on Congress to pass stricter immigration laws after Justice Neil Gorsuch cast the deciding vote in the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision that ruled in favor (http://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/383512-supreme-court-invalidates-law-requiring-the-deportation-of) of an immigrant threatened with deportation.
“Today’s Court decision means that Congress must close loopholes that block the removal of dangerous criminal aliens, including aggravated felons,” Trump tweeted.
“This is a public safety crisis that can only be fixed by Congress — House and Senate must quickly pass a legislative fix to ensure violent criminal aliens can be removed from our society,” he added.

More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/383627-trump-calls-for-changes-in-immigration-law-following-supreme-court?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=idealmedia&utm_campaign=thehill.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=1

thoughtomator
04-17-2018, 05:07 PM
I don't see a problem if Gorsuch rules correctly according to the law and an undesirable result ensues.

The onus is on Congress to write laws in such a manner that they can be easily understood.