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Gumba of Liberty
03-31-2017, 04:00 PM
I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.

dannno
03-31-2017, 04:13 PM
My recommendation is wait a week or two, and see if this is still an issue. In all likelihood it will be totally off our radar by then, we will be focused on something else, and the freedom caucus will be doing just fine. In fact, they may end up with even more donations and more funding from this.

I think Trump has something up his sleeve here. Just a few days ago he was saying how they were great friends.

acptulsa
03-31-2017, 04:54 PM
Wait until it's off your radar, then see how you feel about it.

How quaint.

The ADHD School of Civic Responsibility. 'To arms! The British are coming! Oh, wait! A chicken!!'

CPUd
03-31-2017, 05:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/u7R9zG2.jpg

Gumba of Liberty
03-31-2017, 05:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/u7R9zG2.jpg

He already is. (Hence my post)

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-31-2017, 05:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/u7R9zG2.jpg


Is that the guy who does all your postings 18 hours a day?

Wooden Indian
03-31-2017, 05:28 PM
Excellent thread. Would read again.

dannno
03-31-2017, 05:32 PM
Wait until it's off your radar, then see how you feel about it.

How quaint.

The ADHD School of Civic Responsibility. 'To arms! The British are coming! Oh, wait! A chicken!!'

That's not what I said.

People tend to freak out over every little thing, and a few days later it doesn't even matter.

The fact is Trump doesn't operate in a straightforward manner, he keeps people guessing, that's part of his whole persona. If you think you have him pinned, great, but you basically are spewing the same crap as the mainstream media and I don't buy it, it's just not convincing.

CPUd
03-31-2017, 05:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/hcECBp2.jpg

r3volution 3.0
03-31-2017, 06:44 PM
Yes, Trump outing himself (yet again..) as an enemy of liberty is a great boon for us.

Conservatives are soon going to be in open revolt, as they were at the end of the Bush administration.

seapilot
03-31-2017, 08:37 PM
Trump attacking Freedom Caucus reminds me of this.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cphs-0zKWAM/UF2VXSRRqdI/AAAAAAAADH4/qyzt_eldC8o/w1200-h630-p-nu/ed-nortan-punching.gif

seapilot
03-31-2017, 08:39 PM
And this,
https://media.giphy.com/media/Okk9cb1dvtMxq/giphy.gif

timosman
03-31-2017, 08:40 PM
I think Trump has something up his sleeve here.

An extra hair gel?

seapilot
03-31-2017, 08:41 PM
Finally this,
https://i0.wp.com/fusion.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/cannotunsee14.gif?resize=500%2C282&quality=80&strip=all

timosman
03-31-2017, 08:43 PM
That's not what I said.

People tend to freak out over every little thing, and a few days later it doesn't even matter.

The fact is Trump doesn't operate in a straightforward manner, he keeps people guessing, that's part of his whole persona. If you think you have him pinned, great, but you basically are spewing the same crap as the mainstream media and I don't buy it, it's just not convincing.

Could you calm down a bit? It is such a nice evening. How many things with TRUMP brand on them do you own? :cool:

timosman
03-31-2017, 08:44 PM
Finally this,
https://i0.wp.com/fusion.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/cannotunsee14.gif?resize=500%2C282&quality=80&strip=all

Who that person would be? His wounds seem to be self inflicted.:confused:

jmdrake
03-31-2017, 08:48 PM
Finally this,
https://i0.wp.com/fusion.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/cannotunsee14.gif?resize=500%2C282&quality=80&strip=all

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to seapilot again.

jmdrake
03-31-2017, 08:51 PM
I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.

And ^this is the best post I've seen recently. Rather than doing mental gymnastics hoping Trump really didn't mean what he tweeted, take it at face value as a call to arms. If Trump double crosses Ryan good. It doesn't matter if that was his plan all along or if the backlash forces his hand. The result is the same. If Trump doesn't double cross Ryan but keeps double crossing the Freedom Caucus and the Freedom Caucus gets the upper hand because the backlash rallies the troops then good. The only possible negative result is if Trump continues to attack the Freedom Caucus and there isn't sufficient backlash from that move.

timosman
03-31-2017, 08:56 PM
Did he talk to Rand after sending this tweet?

fr33
03-31-2017, 09:21 PM
This is a quote from another forum where political talk is pretty much cavemanish but it's very accurate:


Trump is a showman. He accents the positive in everything he does including failures which he never admits, trumpeting them as success. He promised to undo Obamacare and he will take anything he can to pass off as doing so. The bill failed and he needs someone to blame and he does not care who.
He wins at all he does, that is his story and he is sticking to it. He would ruthlessly use the Repubs, the Democrats, the UN, the Girl Scouts and even members of this board to get what he wants and throw them in the ditch at the first moment it suited him.
He is a deal maker who will make whatever deal he can to get whatever he wants and owes nothing to the traditional halls of power in DC. Anti-socialists, conservatives, capitalists and constitutionalist can make great advancements with him but need to understand that he is not fixed to any party or politics beyond what makes him a 'winner'.

r3volution 3.0
03-31-2017, 11:19 PM
^^^Sounds about right.

Thing is, you can say that about most any politician.

...totally amoral, just interested in "winning" (election, reelection, name in paper, invites to the right parties, etc).

And that's why the state keeps growing; that's the path of least resistance for the ambitious.

To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.

dannno
03-31-2017, 11:43 PM
The only possible negative result is if Trump continues to attack the Freedom Caucus and there isn't sufficient backlash from that move.

That's what I said, Massie and Amash are absolutely doing the right thing by fighting back and standing up for their beliefs, there is no question about that.

UWDude
03-31-2017, 11:43 PM
I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.

Everybody but the freedom caucus need to be primaried. In the age of Trump, anything is possible. Politics will never be the same.


That's what I said, Massie and Amash are absolutely doing the right thing by fighting back and standing up for their beliefs, there is no question about that.

Trump admires strength and backbone, especially if he agrees with them.

timosman
03-31-2017, 11:51 PM
^^^Sounds about right.

Thing is, you can say that about most any politician.

...totally amoral, just interested in "winning" (election, reelection, name in paper, invites to the right parties, etc).

And that's why the state keeps growing; that's the path of least resistance for the ambitious.

To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.

Why would you want to stick your neck?:rolleyes:

invisible
04-01-2017, 08:45 AM
I am extremely pleased with President Trump. Truly, his accomplishments are more than I could ever have imagined and we are only a few months in!

Trump has nominated a fantastic(ish) Supreme Court Nominee. He has exposed the Corporate Press as BS propaganda to even the lowest IQ blue-pilled sheep. He has exposed the Intellegence Agencies (CIA/NSA) as enemies of the American People. He had exposed the danger of surveillance and intercepts to those seeking political office. He has claimed to be one of us, "red-blooded" American patriots. [See Note]

Then Trump turned to Obamacare.

Healthcare is a hot button issue for Obamacare-hating-on-the-campaign-trail Republicans. Speaker Ryan rolls out a secret bill and Trump throws his support, and his Twitter account, behind it.

Up until the last few days, I believed Trump was "playing" (queue rope/hang himself metaphor) Ryan and would call for his resignation after the obvious debacle of "Ryancare".

This would have been a good move on Trumps part (by solidifying his conservative support) and a win for liberty by getting the gavel from the snake they call Ryan.

Alas, this did not materialize. Instead, Trump turned on the Freedom Caucus and, in the process, did the only thing that could sink him. He attacked Constitutionalist's because they defied him in defense of the Constitution. Trump has just turned the Freedom Caucus into his enemy and accidentally into national heros. Including heros of Breitbart and Trump's own base!

This guy really is the gift that keeps on giving.

The Freedom Caucus are showing themselves to be the "rebellious" (yet) principled adults in Congress. Instead of the Freedom Caucus losing seats in 2018, look for Republican candidates to run on their desire to join the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus will grow much larger if they agree with Trump when he is right and stand together in opposition when he is wrong.

Can the Freedom Caucus carry on the R3volution?

2018 is a glorious opportunity to make the narrative: The Patriots of the Freedom Caucus are the True Champions of the People and their Natural Born Rights.

You might be skeptical, but all the grassroots Liberty Movement needs to do is to mobilize with this message and WILL it into reality.

Thank you President Trump and keep up the good work!

Note: The real three branches of government are the Fed, the CIA & the Corporate Press. Weakening two out of three ain't bad. It would be fantastic if Trump signed Audit the Fed but I won't hold my breath.

Hey, it's been a while since we've seen this one!


Don't worry, surely the trumpettes will be along soon enough, to do one or more of the following:
A) Argue about the meaning of words like "cut", "spending", "military", "entitlement", "increase", and "budget"
B) Tell us that their authoritarian idol really didn't mean what he said
C) Tell us that this is a brilliant move in a game of 3-D chess that only trumpettes are capable of understanding
D) Tell us that it's ok because obomba did it first
E) Tell us that it's ok because it would have been horrible if clinton had done the very same thing
F) Tell us that this is what Liberty and Freedom really mean
G) Call CPUd names

undergroundrr
04-01-2017, 10:05 AM
To shrink the state requires people willing to fight, and lose.

Quotable.

Pizzo
04-01-2017, 10:37 AM
Was ready to one star this when I read the title, but it's an interesting post and definitely possible. danno why when people bring up trumps tweet saying the freedom caucus is his enemy and need to be challenged in 2018 do you say it's just just words, but you bring up him saying they are great friends which are also just words? Why do you give more weight to his statement that backs your favorable opinion of him than the one that doesn't, and his tweet is the more recent statement, is it not? Thanks.

CPUd
04-01-2017, 11:03 AM
President Donald is attacking these Congress members and threatening for primary challengers so we can do things like have moneybombs because he is really their friend and it is so much easier than endorsing their legislation and reelection campaigns to his million twitter fans.

undergroundrr
04-01-2017, 12:50 PM
I'm glad trump is distancing himself from libertarianism. I've been very concerned that trump would be portrayed as America's one-off experiment in electing a libertarian president. It's nice that he's clearing that crap up all on his own.

Jamesiv1
04-01-2017, 01:06 PM
In the age of Trump, anything is possible.
This may be the dawning of the Age of Trumparious.

timosman
04-01-2017, 01:06 PM
Was ready to one star this when I read the title, but it's an interesting post and definitely possible. @<u><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=19002" target="_blank">dann</a></u>o why when people being up trumps tweet saying the freedom caucus is his enemy and need to be challenged in 2018 do you say it's just just words, but you bring up him saying they are great friends which are also just words? Why do you give more weight to his statement that backs your favorable opinion of him than the one that doesn't, and his tweet is the more recent statement, is it not? Thanks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBRKPoAPXEQ

pcosmar
04-01-2017, 01:30 PM
That's not what I said.

People tend to freak out over every little thing, and a few days later it doesn't even matter.

The fact is Trump doesn't operate in a straightforward manner, he keeps people guessing, that's part of his whole persona.

sounds like Matt Collins 2.0

where do you get your inside information? having lunch with the D.?

dude,, srsly

jmdrake
04-01-2017, 03:06 PM
That's what I said, Massie and Amash are absolutely doing the right thing by fighting back and standing up for their beliefs, there is no question about that.

You know.....I'm sure you think that's what you said. This is what you actually said.

My recommendation is wait a week or two, and see if this is still an issue.

Now here's the difference between what you are saying and what I'm saying. I believe that those of us who support Rand Paul, Justin Amash and Thomas Massie need to be part of the backlash. We don't need to sit around and "wait a week" and "hope for the best." This battle will not be won by what Massie, Paul and Amash do but by what their supporters do.

Gumba of Liberty
04-01-2017, 03:55 PM
You know.....I'm sure you think that's what you said. This is what you actually said.

My recommendation is wait a week or two, and see if this is still an issue.

Now here's the difference between what you are saying and what I'm saying. I believe that those of us who support Rand Paul, Justin Amash and Thomas Massie need to be part of the backlash. We don't need to sit around and "wait a week" and "hope for the best." This battle will not be won by what Massie, Paul and Amash do but by what their supporters do.

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