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Brian4Liberty
03-29-2017, 07:18 PM
The Freedom Caucus Is The Silver Lining In The Obamacare Debacle (http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/28/the-freedom-caucus-is-the-silver-lining-in-the-obamacare-debacle/)
The only way the Obamacare replacement bill could have turned out worse is if Republicans had actually passed it. Thank the House Freedom Caucus.
By Robert Tracinski - March 28, 2017


Their failure to pass the Obamacare “repeal and replace” bill was a disaster for House Republicans. The only way the disaster could have been worse is if they had passed it.

This was a case of “you had one job” if ever there was one. Republicans have spent the past seven years obstructing Obamacare, complaining about it, campaigning against it, promising to repeal it, and repeatedly putting forward repeal votes. The American people rewarded them with two smashing midterm congressional victories that gave them control of both the House and the Senate. Now, with a Republican in the White House who would presumably sign whatever they put in front of him, there was no excuse for failing to deliver on that one big promise.

Yet somehow they have still managed to do it. You’ve got to admire ingenuity like that.

The causes were pretty obvious, and I already covered them prospectively. The first was tactical: making “repeal and replace” one package deal, instead of a straight repeal first, followed by a new set of health-care reforms. Instead of using the repeal to create pressure to pass the subsequent reforms, they made the repeal dependent on getting everyone to agree on a package of reforms—which was never going to happen.

The second error was more basic and philosophical: the whole idea of “replacing” Obamacare, which already stacked the decks toward Obamacare Lite. It committed them to something that would try to do more or less the same thing as Obamacare, instead of actual free-market reforms. As I explained, House Speaker Paul Ryan’s big claim to fame was his willingness to tackle entitlement reform, and that’s exactly how he approached this: Democrats pass the new entitlements, and Republicans reform them. It’s a long and depressing old story, filed under the heading, “Me Too.”

Yet there was still something new and hopeful to come out of this debacle. It was precisely the reason the Obamacare Lite replacement failed: the intransigence of the House Freedom Caucus.

Yes, that’s a good thing, because we know how a bill like this would have worked in the past. The Republican leadership would decide they need to nominally “repeal” Obamacare to appease the base, while actually keeping major parts of it to avoid being called mean and horrible (which they will be called anyway). So they cobble together an awful, botched compromise, then force it down everybody’s throat, and nobody is able to stand up and stop it.

They certainly tried to do it this time. President Trump just wanted a bill and didn’t care what was in it, responding to objections from the Freedom Caucus by telling them to “Forget about the little sh–,” which is a really great way of confirming to someone that you don’t care about the things he cares about. But they were expected to swallow what was served to them, with Steve Bannon thundering, “This is not a discussion. This is not a debate. You have no choice but to vote for this bill.”

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Eliminating earmarks meant that the members of the Freedom Caucus has less to gain and less to fear from the leadership. Or rather, it meant that they feared their constituents—whom they had promised to get rid of Obamacare—more than they feared Ryan or Trump. Way more than they feared Bannon. They were capable of so much independence that they actually formed a pact to resist outside pressure.
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Notice how this turns the big narrative of the last election on its head. We were supposed to support Trump because he was the guy who was finally going to break the corrupt Republican “establishment.” Now he’s the guy launching tweet-storms on behalf of the establishment and against the House Freedom Caucus—the guys who actually did break the GOP establishment. And all because the Tea Party movement brought a few dozen hard line small-government advocates into office, and the ban on earmarks helped them guard their independence.
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More: http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/28/the-freedom-caucus-is-the-silver-lining-in-the-obamacare-debacle/

enhanced_deficit
03-29-2017, 11:00 PM
Some good arguments there.

timosman
03-29-2017, 11:55 PM
Great news! I am going to start liking this planet again. 34D chess Rand. :cool:

seapilot
03-30-2017, 01:19 PM
The saying if voting actually changed things it would be made illegal comes to mind here. That is why the establishment do want to vote on an actual repeal bill. It would probably pass and most people would not need govt for health insurance anymore.

Zippyjuan
03-30-2017, 01:28 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/john-boehner-obamacare-republicans-235303


Boehner: Republicans won't repeal and replace Obamacare


ormer House Speaker John Boehner predicted on Thursday that a full repeal and replace of Obamacare is “not what’s going to happen” and that Republicans will instead just make some fixes to the health care law.

Boehner, who retired in 2015 amid unrest among conservatives, said at an Orlando healthcare conference that GOP lawmakers were too optimistic in their talk of quickly repealing and then replacing Obamacare.

“They’ll fix Obamacare, and I shouldn’t have called it repeal and replace because that’s not what’s going to happen. They’re basically going to fix the flaws and put a more conservative box around it,” Boehner said.

The former speaker’s frank comments capture the conundrum that many Republicans find themselves in as they try to deliver on pledges to axe Obamacare but struggle to coalesce around an alternative.

Republican lawmakers across the country this week are facing angry constituents at town halls worried that Obamacare will be yanked away without a suitable replacement.

President Donald Trump has said in recent days that he will release a plan by early to mid-March on how the administration plans to move forward on repeal-and-replace.

But so far, no clear path has emerged.

Earlier in the panel discussion, Boehner said he “started laughing” when Republicans started talking about moving lightning fast on repeal and then coming up with an alternative.

"In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once,” Boehner said. “And all this happy talk that went on in November and December and January about repeal, repeal, repeal—yeah, we'll do replace, replace—I started laughing, because if you pass repeal without replace, first, anything that happens is your fault. You broke it.”

Brian4Liberty
03-30-2017, 01:54 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/john-boehner-obamacare-republicans-235303

Republican lawmakers across the country this week are facing angry constituents at town halls worried that Obamacare will be yanked away without a suitable replacement.

You mean ignorant, irrational and desperate people, who when simultaneously hit over the head with a hammer and given an aspirin by the government, demand that both continue because of a hysterical fear of losing the free aspirin, and they can not grasp the fact that it's the hammer causing the headache.

AuH20
03-30-2017, 02:11 PM
Trump could will an improved healthcare bill to be passed, but he's not much of an ideologue. He'll simply pass something so to mark the check in the box.

timosman
03-30-2017, 02:15 PM
Trump could will an improved healthcare bill to be passed, but he's not much of an ideologue. He'll simply pass something so to mark the check in the box.

He wants a trophy. He does not care what is it for. Maybe somebody should send it to him. Tweet of the day?

Swordsmyth
03-30-2017, 03:09 PM
You mean ignorant, irrational and desperate people, who when simultaneously hit over the head with a hammer and given an aspirin by the government, demand that both continue because of a hysterical fear of losing the free aspirin, and they can not grasp the fact that it's the hammer causing the headache.

A perfect picture of Joe Average.

H. E. Panqui
04-01-2017, 03:39 PM
:confused:

...all 'the freedom caucus' 'healthcare plans' i've seen include MA$$IVE GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION....

...always remember, 'the freedom caucus' are republicans...republican party members' 'understandings' of 'freedom' :rolleyes: are dubious at best...

...ugh...

Occam's Banana
04-01-2017, 04:53 PM
You mean ignorant, irrational and desperate people, who when simultaneously hit over the head with a hammer and given an aspirin by the government, demand that both continue because of a hysterical fear of losing the free aspirin, and they can not grasp the fact that it's the hammer causing the headache.

Yeah, pretty much that.

timosman
04-01-2017, 05:05 PM
We need to find a person who actually benefits from this crap to remove the alleged poison pill. How not keeping Obamacare in place hurts anybody?:confused: