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timosman
03-25-2017, 10:55 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/business/alex-jones-pizzagate-apology-comet-ping-pong.html


By ELI ROSENBERGMARCH, 25, 2017

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The radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones last month in Austin.


Alex Jones, a prominent conspiracy theorist and the host of a popular right-wing radio show, has apologized for helping to spread and promote the hoax known as Pizzagate.

The admission on Friday by Mr. Jones, the host of “The Alex Jones Show” and the operator of the website Infowars, was striking. In addition to promoting the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, he has contended that the Sept. 11 attacks were inside jobs carried out by the United States government and that the 2012 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., was a hoax concocted by those hostile to the Second Amendment.

The Pizzagate theory, which posited with no evidence that top Democratic officials were involved with a satanic child pornography ring centered around Comet Ping Pong, a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C., grew in online forums before making its way to more visible venues, including Mr. Jones’s show. And its prominence after the election drew attention to the proliferation of false and misleading news, much of it politically charged, that circulated on platforms like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Mr. Jones made the apology to the owner of Comet Ping Pong, James Alefantis, on video, reading from a carefully worded statement that emphasized how widely the theory had spread before he weighed in on it. He said that Infowars had “disassociated” itself from the story in December and had taken down the majority of broadcasts and videos that mentioned it. Mr. Jones also said that two reporters the show had worked with “are no longer with us,” although he did not identify them or discuss the exact nature of their work with Infowars.

“To my knowledge today, neither Mr. Alefantis, nor his restaurant Comet Ping Pong, were involved in any human trafficking, as was part of the theories about Pizzagate that were being written about in many media outlets and which we commented upon,” Mr. Jones said. “We apologize to the extent our commentaries could be construed as negative statements about Mr. Alefantis or Comet Ping Pong, and we hope that anyone else involved in commenting on Pizzagate will do the same thing.”

The hoax has had real-world consequences. The pizzeria, Mr. Alefantis and his employees have been besieged by threats. Nearby businesses have also been affected. And the hoax has even spread to several other pizzerias around the country.

“It’s been a roller coaster of emotion and fear,” Mr. Alefantis said, in a telephone interview on Saturday, noting that he was still receiving daily threats online. “Good days and bad days.”

Mr. Alefantis’s restaurant was closed for two days in December, after the police arrested a man, Edgar M. Welch, 28, a father of two from North Carolina, who they said showed up at Comet Ping Pong to investigate the claims and fired a semiautomatic rifle he had brought with him inside the pizzeria. Mr. Welch pleaded guilty on Friday to assault with a dangerous weapon and interstate transportation of a firearm and will be sentenced in June.

In an interview a few days after his arrest, Mr. Welch told The New York Times that he listened to Mr. Jones’s show, saying that the host “touches on some issues that are viable but goes off the deep end on some things.”

But the theory lives on. A small group of protesters showed up outside the White House on Saturday, holding signs that asked why the news media was covering up child trafficking and demanding an investigation into Hillary Clinton, Mr. Alefantis and John Podesta, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman, in connection with the hoax.

Mr. Alefantis said his restaurant has spent nearly $70,000 on two guards to stand at the entrance during business hours. A neighbor who runs a security company helped install an alarm system and a network of cameras — both inside and outside the restaurant — as well as panic buttons to alert the local police.

Last weekend, about 10 Pizzagate theory adherents held a protest in front of the restaurant. Mr. Alefantis said no one but Mr. Jones has ever apologized to him.

“Honestly I wouldn’t wish this on anyone,” he said. “These lies and falsehoods spread about me and my restaurant exist all over the place. The damage that has been done to my company and business and my community, all will remain forever.”

Still, Mr. Alefantis said, the community has been rallying around his restaurant. Only one of his more than 40 employees decided to leave after the shooting incident in December. And he said he hoped things would continue to return to normal.

“We’re trying to go back to our world of making food and serving our customers and being a happy place,” he said.

eleganz
03-25-2017, 11:14 PM
Did nobody show Alex the Instagram photos from Alefantis and his social media circle?

PatriotOne
03-25-2017, 11:20 PM
Did nobody show Alex the Instagram photos from Alefantis and his social media circle?

Control Op Alex scared chitless about something. Lawsuit? He's been trying his damnest to backpedal on Pizzagate almost immediately after he reported on it. There were some strange pizza related emails in the WikiLeaks from his Austin employer Stratfor.

Jackson
03-26-2017, 01:06 AM
Alex sure got fat in the face.

dannno
03-26-2017, 01:36 AM
Alex sure got fat in the face.

http://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/32drtGVPJhQ/mqdefault.jpg

asurfaholic
03-26-2017, 04:53 AM
When can we stop talking about this fraud of a guy? (Jones)

jmdrake
03-26-2017, 05:31 AM
Okay. Am I the only one that finds it suspicious as hell that in Washington freaking D.C. a gunman can waltz into "Ping Pong Pizza" because he's "investigating pizzagate", fire off a freaking shotgun, not get shot by the police himself, and Alex Jones not call that a false flag event? Seriously?

What is wrong with this picture?

5678
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Comet-Ping-Pong-Shooter-Pleads-Guilty-417029263.html

Noob
03-26-2017, 05:33 AM
Nothing on the Bohemian Grove news?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rander/167347987/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rander/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michellebarnett/8042148174/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/normanfam/4278374538/in/photostream/

RPtotheWH
03-26-2017, 05:44 AM
Hmmm, I'm pretty shocked to see this on here. I was just on another forum and came across this story, apparently Dr. Phil had one of the childhood Victims on his show:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/elite-pedophile-ring-exposed-dr-phil/

jmdrake
03-26-2017, 06:30 AM
Hmmm, I'm pretty shocked to see this on here. I was just on another forum and came across this story, apparently Dr. Phil had one of the childhood Victims on his show:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/elite-pedophile-ring-exposed-dr-phil/

Pedophilia among D.C. elites is no secret. Remember former speaker of the house Dennis Hastert?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dennis-hastert-wants-sex-abuse-accuser-return-hush-money-n709116

On the democratic side, Barney Frank's roommate ran a male prostitution ring out of their apartment.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-one-thing-no-one-is-mentioning-in-their-barney-frank-tributes-the-prostitutes-2011-11

Oh...and remember the documentary about a republican child prostitution ring being run out of Boys Town that the Discovery Channel pulled because they were chicken shyt?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSIDQt5Dwc

So yes. Powerful people in DC (and other places) have been busted for being involved in sex trafficking even of children. But everybody believes "My politician isn't involved." Really? Just look at Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. Both were close friends to billionaire pedophile sex trafficker Jeff Epstein. Both have been implicated as participating in child rape. And yet....people on this forum defend Trump and people on the left defend Clinton. Each side accuses the other of covering up sex crimes. Even Alex Jones has decided to cover Clinton but cover up for Trump.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3825882/The-cozy-relationship-billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-Bill-Clinton-flew-pedophile-s-private-jet-praised-insights-generosity-detailed-new-book-James-Patterson.html

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/the-friendship-between-trump-and-a-billionaire-pedophile-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/

http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo

Check out this clip. Here Alex Jones exposes himself (thankfully he keeps his clothes on though.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m-42A37zxM

Note that at 1:50 Alex Jones brings out the Bill Clinton "rape" shirt. But Cenk responds with the fact that Donald Trump has a court filing against him currently accusing him of rape. Alex doesn't respond to that because he can't....because it's true. Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are accused rapists to the same extent that Bill Cosby is. But only Bill Cosby has become a pariah because of it. (It must be because Bill Cosby is black. j/k....maybe not.)

Alex Jones can't go full bore against the NWO anymore because he sold out to one of them (Donald Trump).

sparebulb
03-26-2017, 06:54 AM
http://ytimg.googleusercontent.com/vi/32drtGVPJhQ/mqdefault.jpg

The self-proclaimed "White Bruce Lee".

I loved it when Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson were live-camming around through the riots, getting shot at and pepper-sprayed, they would joke to each other about whether they had taken their Super Male Vitality that day.

But in all seriousness, do we want to live in a CNN/Fox News world, or one with a some alternatives like Alex?

I'll take the one with Alex.

RPtotheWH
03-26-2017, 07:02 AM
Pedophilia among D.C. elites is no secret. Remember former speaker of the house Dennis Hastert?

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dennis-hastert-wants-sex-abuse-accuser-return-hush-money-n709116

On the democratic side, Barney Frank's roommate ran a male prostitution ring out of their apartment.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-one-thing-no-one-is-mentioning-in-their-barney-frank-tributes-the-prostitutes-2011-11

Oh...and remember the documentary about a republican child prostitution ring being run out of Boys Town that the Discovery Channel pulled because they were chicken shyt?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBSIDQt5Dwc

So yes. Powerful people in DC (and other places) have been busted for being involved in sex trafficking even of children. But everybody believes "My politician isn't involved." Really? Just look at Donald Trump and Bill Clinton. Both were close friends to billionaire pedophile sex trafficker Jeff Epstein. Both have been implicated as participating in child rape. And yet....people on this forum defend Trump and people on the left defend Clinton. Each side accuses the other of covering up sex crimes. Even Alex Jones has decided to cover Clinton but cover up for Trump.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3825882/The-cozy-relationship-billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-Bill-Clinton-flew-pedophile-s-private-jet-praised-insights-generosity-detailed-new-book-James-Patterson.html

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/the-friendship-between-trump-and-a-billionaire-pedophile-that-nobody-wants-to-talk-about/

http://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo

Check out this clip. Here Alex Jones exposes himself (thankfully he keeps his clothes on though.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m-42A37zxM

Note that at 1:50 Alex Jones brings out the Bill Clinton "rape" shirt. But Cenk responds with the fact that Donald Trump has a court filing against him currently accusing him of rape. Alex doesn't respond to that because he can't....because it's true. Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are accused rapists to the same extent that Bill Cosby is. But only Bill Cosby has become a pariah because of it. (It must be because Bill Cosby is black. j/k....maybe not.)

Alex Jones can't go full bore against the NWO anymore because he sold out to one of them (Donald Trump).

Are you talking about the rape case where the person remained anonymous and dropped the charges? Also conveniently came out while he was running for POTUS against A Clinton. That seems glaringly different than Bill Clinton's alleged problems. Maybe its true but why hasn't anyone come forward? Anonymous people can make all types of claims and slither away, Billy boy isn't as lucky to have anonymous accusers.

spudea
03-26-2017, 07:28 AM
Maybe don't make a boy love symbol your company symbol, maybe don't post disturbing images to Instagram, maybe don't associate with the likes of John podesta. These facts deserved inquiry and I thank Alex Jones.

osan
03-26-2017, 08:19 AM
Control Op Alex scared chitless about something. Lawsuit? He's been trying his damnest to backpedal on Pizzagate almost immediately after he reported on it. There were some strange pizza related emails in the WikiLeaks from his Austin employer Stratfor.


Did nobody show Alex the Instagram photos from Alefantis and his social media circle?


Nothing on the Bohemian Grove news?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rander/167347987/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rander/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/michellebarnett/8042148174/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/normanfam/4278374538/in/photostream/


Hmmm, I'm pretty shocked to see this on here. I was just on another forum and came across this story, apparently Dr. Phil had one of the childhood Victims on his show:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/elite-pedophile-ring-exposed-dr-phil/


The self-proclaimed "White Bruce Lee".

I loved it when Joe Biggs and Jakari Jackson were live-camming around through the riots, getting shot at and pepper-sprayed, they would joke to each other about whether they had taken their Super Male Vitality that day.

But in all seriousness, do we want to live in a CNN/Fox News world, or one with a some alternatives like Alex?

I'll take the one with Alex.


Maybe don't make a boy love symbol your company symbol, maybe don't post disturbing images to Instagram, maybe don't associate with the likes of John podesta. These facts deserved inquiry and I thank Alex Jones.

I find it fascinating, this web of mutually contradictory "facts" trotted out by the various interests. It is so convoluted, one can no longer easily tell truth from BS from outright lies, if even at all in many cases.

My hat is off to Themme for the fantastic job they have done in muddling the heads of 99% of Americans (as well as the rest) to this extent. It is a work of great virtue in its perfection, all questions of good and evil aside.

I wish Theye'd offer me a job, because I'd take it. Why not live out the rest of my days in some comfort, if a slave I will remain regardless? So I put it out there to Themme: want a good strategist and tactician, one with the audacity to plan insanity for this world even Youue have failed to concoct in all your evil brilliance? I'm available. Yes, I am costly, but what you stand to gain dwarfs any laundry list I could present. So how's about it? I am up for an adventure on the dark side... or is it really that? I am no longer quite certain, and I don't care, so long as mine are well cared for. After all, if the wad will not look after its own better interests, why should I care if they burn in genocidal flame? Seriously, why?


​Credit where due.

donnay
03-26-2017, 10:05 AM
At least he was big enough to admit the report was wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgE2rbrqQoI

devil21
03-26-2017, 11:05 AM
Okay. Am I the only one that finds it suspicious as hell that in Washington freaking D.C. a gunman can waltz into "Ping Pong Pizza" because he's "investigating pizzagate", fire off a freaking shotgun, not get shot by the police himself, and Alex Jones not call that a false flag event? Seriously?

What is wrong with this picture?

5678
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Comet-Ping-Pong-Shooter-Pleads-Guilty-417029263.html

Kokesh spent months in jail for HOLDING a shotgun in DC for a video and this guy here walks into a restaurant and fires a dreaded black rifle, barely spends a day in jail and walks away with a plea agreement a couple months later to a nothingburger charge. Oh and he just happened to shoot the only computer hard drive in the entire restaurant. Yeah, that doesn't smell at all.

Does anyone pay attention to AJ anymore? He's clearly been subverted somehow. Probably the standard blackmail material operation.

MRK
03-26-2017, 11:10 AM
So AJ issues a very legalese statement regarding his retraction of basically all previous statements regarding Mr. Alefantis.

Why? He was contacted by Alefantis's legal team in February. He's probably facing down a multi-million dollar lawsuit that he doesn't want to have exposure to.

He didn't say that there was no story involved in the Pizza-related emails, he just said Mr. Alefantis wasn't a part of them.

Ender
03-26-2017, 12:05 PM
When can we stop talking about this fraud of a guy? (Jones)

Only when he stops supporting Trump; then we can go back to calling him an idiotic false media shill etc.

TheCount
03-26-2017, 12:16 PM
Is this the first time he's admitted that one of his old stories was wrong? Usually he just dumps them into the memory hole never to be thought of again.

Murray N Rothbard
03-26-2017, 01:02 PM
Fuck Alex Jones. He is a clown.

NewRightLibertarian
03-26-2017, 01:05 PM
Jones is covering his arse, probably at the behest of Trump. The way Ben Swann and Jones have both reacted to this after covering it (granted, Swann's coverage was WAY better than Jones' who was obviously scared from the start) have made me think even more strongly that it might be true.

AuH20
03-26-2017, 01:11 PM
Someone from the Trump Admin warned Yiannapoulos to not publicly discuss this as well.

AuH20
03-26-2017, 01:14 PM
A good visual explanation on why Pizzagate will probably be not pursued.

http://still4hill.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/04-22-13-bb-02.jpg

eleganz
03-26-2017, 01:24 PM
To be fair Aj has been saying for a while, and really pushed this on the Joe Rogan Experience, that the focal point is not pizza gate and comet pizza. That we should be pushing pedo gate and the bigger picture Clinton foundation connection and elite pedo ring.

Indy Vidual
03-26-2017, 02:52 PM
Alex Jones is a painfully obvious fraud and traitor.

jmdrake
03-26-2017, 06:40 PM
Are you talking about the rape case where the person remained anonymous and dropped the charges? Also conveniently came out while he was running for POTUS against A Clinton. That seems glaringly different than Bill Clinton's alleged problems. Maybe its true but why hasn't anyone come forward? Anonymous people can make all types of claims and slither away, Billy boy isn't as lucky to have anonymous accusers.

:rolleyes: In this case the accuser is 13 years old. Sorry you don't agree with rape shield laws for minors. Trump has also been named as a witness in the case against his pedophile buddy Epbstein. It's funny that Alex Jones can through allegations against Podesta based on "codewords" like "pizza", but can't look into Trump at all. Trump and Clinton were buddies. Enough said.

dannno
03-26-2017, 07:47 PM
:rolleyes: In this case the accuser is 13 years old.

Everybody was 13 years old at one point, the accuser is in her 30s I think.

TheTexan
03-26-2017, 08:06 PM
Is this the first time he's admitted that one of his old stories was wrong? Usually he just dumps them into the memory hole never to be thought of again.

My guess - they threatened his life.

Which means that everything he said about pizzagate is very likely true.

timosman
03-26-2017, 08:11 PM
I wish Theye'd offer me a job, because I'd take it. Why not live out the rest of my days in some comfort, if a slave I will remain regardless? So I put it out there to Themme: want a good strategist and tactician, one with the audacity to plan insanity for this world even Youue have failed to concoct in all your evil brilliance? I'm available. Yes, I am costly, but what you stand to gain dwarfs any laundry list I could present. So how's about it? I am up for an adventure on the dark side... or is it really that? I am no longer quite certain, and I don't care, so long as mine are well cared for. After all, if the wad will not look after its own better interests, why should I care if they burn in genocidal flame? Seriously, why?

Take a number.:cool:

AngryCanadian
03-26-2017, 08:47 PM
NY Times another Fake News. And failing newspapers.

eleganz
03-26-2017, 08:57 PM
:rolleyes: In this case the accuser is 13 years old. Sorry you don't agree with rape shield laws for minors. Trump has also been named as a witness in the case against his pedophile buddy Epbstein. It's funny that Alex Jones can through allegations against Podesta based on "codewords" like "pizza", but can't look into Trump at all. Trump and Clinton were buddies. Enough said.

From what I've seen the Trump/Epstein connection is pretty weak.

Trump's accuser did not follow through after the accusation was no longer necessary in the campaign.

I think that was just a simple Clinton attack narrative.

jmdrake
03-26-2017, 09:04 PM
From what I've seen the Trump/Epstein connection is pretty weak.

Not according to Trump.

In a New York magazine profile of Epstein before he went to prison, and long before Trump ran for president, Trump acknowledged that he knows Epstein. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,’’ Trump says in the story. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ― Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”



Trump's accuser did not follow through after the accusation was no longer necessary in the campaign.

I think that was just a simple Clinton attack narrative.

:rolleyes: Then you are more gullible than I thought. Ask yourself this. Why did Trump not use the Clinton/Epstein connection? And note that Hillary never used the Trump/Epstein connection either. And come to think of it, I've never seen Alex Jones cover Epstein. He could talk about unproven pizzagate allegations but he can't talk about a billionaire who's already been convicted of child rape?

AuH20
03-26-2017, 09:21 PM
Trump was never found on the flight manifests to Epstein Island. With that said, he could still run interference for this pedo ring.

jmdrake
03-26-2017, 09:27 PM
Trump was never found on the flight manifests to Epstein Island. With that said, he could still run interference for this pedo ring.

Cause of course Trump doesn't own any jets of his own. :rolleyes: What we know for a fact is that Trump, Epstein and Clinton were all pals and Alex Jones has been curiously silent about orgy island. Any idea why?

AuH20
03-26-2017, 09:28 PM
Cause of course Trump doesn't own any jets of his own. :rolleyes: What we know for a fact is that Trump, Epstein and Clinton were all pals and Alex Jones has been curiously silent about orgy island. Any idea why?

Alex Jones has covered the island.

https://www.infowars.com/orgy-island-and-the-bill-clinton-sex-scandal/

anaconda
03-26-2017, 09:38 PM
My guess - they threatened his life.

Which means that everything he said about pizzagate is very likely true.

Which seems to call into question why they would do it. Since, to the extent that people share your insight, they would see through it.

AuH20
03-26-2017, 09:39 PM
Alex Jones loses much credibility for rolling over on this, despite so much compelling evidence. Either the Mossad doesn't want the details of their blackmail operation exposed or he's kowtowing to someone in the Trump Admin.

This is the second major media personality to roll over on this topic.

donnay
03-26-2017, 10:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsrMuuG9tro

eleganz
03-27-2017, 12:11 AM
Not according to Trump.

In a New York magazine profile of Epstein before he went to prison, and long before Trump ran for president, Trump acknowledged that he knows Epstein. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,’’ Trump says in the story. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it ― Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”



:rolleyes: Then you are more gullible than I thought. Ask yourself this. Why did Trump not use the Clinton/Epstein connection? And note that Hillary never used the Trump/Epstein connection either. And come to think of it, I've never seen Alex Jones cover Epstein. He could talk about unproven pizzagate allegations but he can't talk about a billionaire who's already been convicted of child rape?

Yes I've also heard people trying to tie some journalists to being part of the elite pedo ring simply because they attended an Epstein party after he was released from jail. You can make a connection but the connection is weak. Just like connection to Trump/Epstein AND pedophilia is weak.

If being a 15 year old friend of Epstein makes you a pedophile, then shit we're all guilty of something by association, aren't we?


Gullible because I believe there is not enough evidence of Trump's connection to the 13 year old alleged victim?

Show more evidence that leads further than simply a campaign attack narrative and I'll take a look at it. Why the hell did they drop the entire narrative after it was no longer useful?

eleganz
03-27-2017, 12:12 AM
I guess we'll have to see tomorrow if AJ's big pizza gate bonanza is worth it or just AJ blowing smoke again.

He's been right too so it has potential.

devil21
03-27-2017, 02:33 AM
A good visual explanation on why Pizzagate will probably be not pursued.

http://still4hill.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/04-22-13-bb-02.jpg

The positive effect is that pedo/trafficking investigations and busts are WAY up. Low hanging fruit, yes, but awareness has been raised. Hopefully it's not over and I hope that Podesta and his associates of all stripes live their lives watching over their shoulders. There's nothing worse than preying on the defenseless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b273RhFHCY

This video is a mind control/splintering method captured in real-time.

CPUd
03-27-2017, 03:18 AM
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. It is obvious to anyone with a brain that the "Alex Jones" in the OP is a mind controlled clone of a previous version who was a clone of Bill Hicks.

http://i.imgur.com/jxagEpv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/obwX1M4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bPsaNUe.jpg

anaconda
03-27-2017, 04:09 AM
The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. It is obvious to anyone with a brain that the "Alex Jones" in the OP is a mind controlled clone of a previous version who was a clone of Bill Hicks.


Was there ever an actual Alex Jones? Or just a fictitious personae created for the surgically altered Hicks? Also, if Hicks wanted to change careers and work for the CIA as controlled opposition, why not just do it as himself? Any clarification would be appreciated.

anaconda
03-27-2017, 04:29 AM
That's a MAN, baby!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWjoSxwXEU

anaconda
03-27-2017, 04:38 AM
http://johndenugent.com/images/Alex-Jones-Bright-Faced-Aryan-Child-Turned-Against-His-Own-People-By-Jewish-Monster-Wife.jpg

osan
03-27-2017, 05:11 AM
Trump was never found on the flight manifests to Epstein Island. With that said, he could still run interference for this pedo ring.

What's the value here? Pink elephants COULD fly from my asshole, albeit small ones.

Seriously, I found this a bit surprising. Have you any basis for thinking that he HAS? I ask because I see there as being far too much to lose for a guy like Trump. What's his payoff for doing such a thing? Is he that good an actor that he puts up such a front of filial decency while aiding and abetting the rape and likely murder of children? I suppose anything is possible in this world gone mad, but I still need to see a basis beyond "because we can" for such acts.

Now, had you made the same assertion about Obama or Clinton, I could more readily accept it on face, but Trump does not readily fit that picture... which may be the real danger there. I don't know. Do you?

osan
03-27-2017, 05:17 AM
The positive effect is that pedo/trafficking investigations and busts are WAY up. Low hanging fruit, yes, but awareness has been raised. Hopefully it's not over and I hope that Podesta and his associates of all stripes live their lives watching over their shoulders. There's nothing worse than preying on the defenseless.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b273RhFHCY

This video is a mind control/splintering method captured in real-time.

My wife gets news from work (United Airlines) frequently. Lately, there has been a rise in the number of child-trafficking intercepts by flight attendants. They are actually trained to recognize the telltales. Just a few days ago wifey showed me the latest story. Apparently the children are so terrified, they don't dare speak out, what with threats made against themselves and their families. Some are apparently drugged, as well.

To think that this sort of shit goes on in the 21st century should not surprise me, and I suppose it doesn't. But it sure as hell makes me angry, and few things manage that with me. I adore children and have no stomach for this sort of thing. If this pizzagate shit is true, just imagine the piles of bodies they must have built over the years. What else could one do with them when finished? Send them home? Perhaps they are raised to adulthood to be later harvested for body parts? OK, I just freaked myself out.

osan
03-27-2017, 05:28 AM
I guess we'll have to see tomorrow if AJ's big pizza gate bonanza is worth it or just AJ blowing smoke again.

He's been right too so it has potential.

That's the bit that buggers my brain. Jones is such a mixed bag. The man has (had?) the ears of so many people and IMO he blew it with spectacularity with his inconsistent behavior. I recall a time when he went all apey in an interview with that Piers Morgan über-phag. What he said was essentially correct, but his going off like a frothing idiot before the camera seemed too scripted... as if he and Über-Phag agreed to it before the cameras rolled. Even so, what does it say about the man if he has not the will or capacity to control himself before millions of people who were presumably and actually paying attention to what he was saying? It appeared almost deliberate an attempt at assassinating not so much himself, but his message; to destroy the credibility of the very idea of questioning orthodoxy.

This mix of good and bad, credible and wild idiocy makes it damned nearly impossible to assess the man with precision and accuracy. As is often the case in such matters, the mere appearance of impropriety sets people on edge with respect to trust. How does one trust a man who at 8AM cuts the very picture of rational and honest composure while at 10, reduces himself to a ranting, spewing lunatic?

Aside: who the hell is Bill Hicks? Yes, I am indeed that ill-informed. I have no idea who he is, why he looks so much like Jones, or why I should care. Any and all help is appreciated.

jmdrake
03-27-2017, 06:08 AM
Yes I've also heard people trying to tie some journalists to being part of the elite pedo ring simply because they attended an Epstein party after he was released from jail. You can make a connection but the connection is weak. Just like connection to Trump/Epstein AND pedophilia is weak.

I take it you didn't actually read the quote. It wasn't Trump simply attending a party. Trump also made a reference to Epstein liking young women. Oh...but Clinton is soooooo bad right? That buzzing you are feeling in your head is your cognitive dissonance kicking in.

jmdrake
03-27-2017, 06:09 AM
Alex Jones has covered the island.

https://www.infowars.com/orgy-island-and-the-bill-clinton-sex-scandal/

One or maybe a handful of reports compared to his 24/7 coverage of pizzagate. Do the math.

phill4paul
03-27-2017, 06:33 AM
Aside: who the hell is Bill Hicks? Yes, I am indeed that ill-informed. I have no idea who he is, why he looks so much like Jones, or why I should care. Any and all help is appreciated.

A court Jester of the highest caliber.


William Melvin "Bill" Hicks (December 16, 1961 – February 26, 1994) was an American stand-up comedian, social critic, satirist, and musician. His material, encompassing a wide range of social issues including religion, politics, and philosophy, was controversial, and often steeped in dark comedy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5pA-vOvcI

eleganz
03-27-2017, 06:56 AM
I take it you didn't actually read the quote. It wasn't Trump simply attending a party. Trump also made a reference to Epstein liking young women. Oh...but Clinton is soooooo bad right? That buzzing you are feeling in your head is your cognitive dissonance kicking in.

Cognitive dissonance? Please show which part of my response to you showed that, I'm very curious how you are seeing it.

My comment on the party was not about Trump, it was about people making arguments connecting journalists attending parties. You know what my post meant, which is why it appears you cut out that part of my post in your quote. Proof : In your post #32, you mentioned nothing about any party. In my response post #39, I mentioned party once and it was in reference to journalists and Epstein and had no mention of Trump. Keep your alternative facts to yourself.

Your one quote (that had no links attached so no context to reference) doesn't link Trump and Epstein to pedophilia. It only links them to a friendship. I broke it down in my last post to you and your following response did not enforce your point in any way whatsoever.


And if you're going to call me gullible, at least have the balls to respond when I took the time to refute your points without making it personal.

What the hell crawled into your panties today.

jmdrake
03-27-2017, 07:03 AM
Why do you guys always make it personal when things start going south? Just stick to the topic.

My comment on the party was not about Trump, it was about people making arguments connecting journalists attending parties. You know how my post was meant, which is why you purposely cut out that part of my post in your quote.

Your one quote doesn't link Trump and Epstein to pedophilia, I broke it down in my last post to you and your following response did not enforce your point in any way whatsoever.

Sorry if my cognitive dissonance comment offends you but that's how I see it. There's far more evidence to link Trump to pedophilia than there was to link Podesta or Hillary Clinton to pedophilia. If Epstein had only been connected to Clinton then people like Alex Jones would have been all over that story 24/7, and I doubt you'd be apologizing for Clinton like you are for Trump. The quote that I gave links Trump to at the very least having knowledge of Epstein's pedophilia tendencies, tendencies which have now been proven in court. And at least one of Epstein's victims used to work for Trump.

eleganz
03-27-2017, 07:11 AM
Sorry if my cognitive dissonance comment offends you but that's how I see it. There's far more evidence to link Trump to pedophilia than there was to link Podesta or Hillary Clinton to pedophilia. If Epstein had only been connected to Clinton then people like Alex Jones would have been all over that story 24/7, and I doubt you'd be apologizing for Clinton like you are for Trump. The quote that I gave links Trump to at the very least having knowledge of Epstein's pedophilia tendencies, tendencies which have now been proven in court. And at least one of Epstein's victims used to work for Trump.

I edited my post instead to ask you to explain where you saw cognitive dissonance, point it out exactly. I didn't change my story, in fact I see where you attempted to change my story for me to fit your agenda.

Read my post again where I clarified everything in the edit, and don't attack people just because you got pressed by some basic devil's advocate questions and you couldn't finish the job.


Cognitive dissonance? Please show which part of my response to you showed that, I'm very curious how you are seeing it.

My comment on the party was not about Trump, it was about people making arguments connecting journalists attending parties. You know what my post meant, which is why it appears you cut out that part of my post in your quote. Proof : In your post #32, you mentioned nothing about any party. In my response post #39, I mentioned party once and it was in reference to journalists and Epstein and had no mention of Trump. Keep your alternative facts to yourself.

Your one quote (that had no links attached so no context to reference) doesn't link Trump and Epstein to pedophilia. It only links them to a friendship. I broke it down in my last post to you and your following response did not enforce your point in any way whatsoever.


And if you're going to call me gullible, at least have the balls to respond when I took the time to refute your points without making it personal.

What the hell crawled into your panties today.

jmdrake
03-27-2017, 07:21 AM
I edited my post instead to ask you to explain where you saw cognitive dissonance, point it out exactly. I didn't change my story, in fact I see where you attempted to change my story for me to fit your agenda.

Read my post again where I clarified everything in the edit

Sorry but when did I change your story? I'm pretty sure I didn't. In fact I know I didn't.

Now I missed your request for an explanation of the cognitive dissonance so I'll now gladly give it. I could care less about the fact that some people have connected certain journalists to Epstein's pedophilia just for attending his parties. That's a red herring. Have any of those journalists made remarks about Epstein liking young women? Have any of those journalists been sued by any of Epstein's victims? Have any of those journalists had employees who went on to become victims of Epstein? No? Then really there was absolutely no reason for you to bring up those journalists except as a way to deflect from Trump. It's kind of a "innocence by association" tactic. The real comparison is between Trump and Clinton. Both have established reputations for being raunchy when it comes to women. Both have had multiple women come out and make accusations. Clinton had to admit to some of his dalliances. Trump openly bragged about some of his, both in writing his books and when he thought he was off camera on his reality TV show. And, so far, neither Trump nor Clinton have actually been convicted of rape. Bill Clinton's defenders defend his as vigorously as you are defending Donald Trump. I defend neither. I believe acting like Clinton is some sex demon while pretending Trump somehow is not is cognitive dissonance. And yes, I would say the same thing to someone defending Bill Clinton. Now you may not agree with what I'm saying, but I hope at the very least you at this point understand it.

jonhowe
03-27-2017, 09:05 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/business/alex-jones-pizzagate-apology-comet-ping-pong.html

Let's assume for the sake of argument Alefantis and co are 100% innocent.

Using the word "Hoax" is an ABSOLUTE LIE!

specsaregood
03-27-2017, 09:20 AM
Considering all the over the top conspiracy ideas and claims, and all the smears and slandering he has done about people over the years in relation to this ideas...
To do this apology?
Maybe that article about the 50 most powerful people in DC was spot-on in regards to Alefantis. He must be their satanic cult president or some shit.

dannno
03-27-2017, 11:46 AM
he could still run interference for this pedo ring.

Uh, no, I doubt it.. If anything Milo and Alex Jones were told to drop it so that the perpetrators have a better chance at getting a fair trial.

TheCount
03-27-2017, 12:22 PM
Uh, no, I doubt it.. If anything Milo and Alex Jones were told to drop it so that the perpetrators have a better chance at getting a fair trial.

https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2015/03/09/6356146549148456011876147478_really_house_of_cards .gif

dannno
03-27-2017, 12:23 PM
https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2015/03/09/6356146549148456011876147478_really_house_of_cards .gif

If the media reported all the evidence on pizzagate before the investigators did in court, do you think the perps would get a fair trial? Do you think doing so might result in mistrials?

pcosmar
03-27-2017, 12:30 PM
If the media reported all the evidence on pizzagate before the investigators did in court, do you think the perps would get a fair trial? Do you think doing so might result in mistrials?

Do you really believe other than underlings thrown to the wolves,, anything will be done?

Do you think this would ever be allowed to be tried in court? (Who's Court?)

seriously

PierzStyx
03-27-2017, 12:33 PM
I hope they sue Jones for everything his fraud and lies have cost them.

TheCount
03-27-2017, 12:34 PM
If the media reported all the evidence on pizzagate before the investigators did in court, do you think the perps would get a fair trial? Do you think doing so might result in mistrials?Do you think there will be a trial?

Dr.3D
03-27-2017, 12:35 PM
I hope they sue Jones for everything his fraud and lies have cost them.

I doubt they will do that, because if it goes to court they would have to prove he lied.

Champ
03-27-2017, 01:02 PM
This story has now made the local paper here.