Ryan pulls the bill

[William Tell]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Republicans, short of votes, withdraw health care bill.http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_APNEWSALERT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-24-15-35-32

[EBounding]

Aw heck, so no voting? :(

[Jan2017]

So Paul Ryan tried . . .
Trump Insists on Vote to Repeal Health Care, Despite Facing Defeat
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, facing a revolt among conservative and moderate Republicans, told President Trump on Friday that he did not have the votes to pass legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act and to decide whether to pull the bill from consideration. But the president insisted that lawmakers cast their public votes Friday afternoon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/health-care-affordable-care-act.html

CSPAN Live went blank though . . .and

So Ryan v. Trump . . . wonder who survives.
Trump’s First Legislative Effort Fails as G.O.P. Pulls Bill to Repeal Obamacare
WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks, pulled legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act from consideration on the House floor Friday afternoon in a humiliating defeat for President Trump on the first legislative showdown of his presidency.

[afwjam]

I was told there would be voting!?

[Brian4Liberty]

Bluff called.

[William Tell]

Rand called it. Off by a couple days but he called it.

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[William Tell]

ha ha son of a bitch

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[angelatc]

House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks....

That sentence ....

[TheTexan]

Aw heck, so no voting? :(

I was really looking forward to a great day of voting today :(

[William Tell]

Aw heck, so no voting? :(

:( I was hoping to get the weasels on record.

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo

[William Tell]

RINOs has teh sadz https://www.c-span.org/video/?425965-1/house-speaker-paul-ryan-meeting-gop-conference&live

[phill4paul]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c6/ad/f0/c6adf0a7f7339a4ce7e4cb2165a2546a.gif

[TheTexan]

I was told there would be voting!?

Nope. :(

https://media.giphy.com/media/zvBuF2oYRErVS/giphy.gif

[Zippyjuan]

The budget battle is going to be fun to watch too. Trump may in theory have control of both Houses but they are houses divided on what to actually do and how to proceed on things.

[TheTexan]

The budget battle is going to be fun to watch too. Trump may in theory have control of both Houses but they are houses divided on what to actually do and how to proceed on things.

Trump is a fantastic leader I'm sure he will figure it out

[Jan2017]

Trump and Ryan expected to make comments about the defeat shortly.
Spicer "President left everything on the field"

OK, time to clear the debris of Paul Ryan off the field.

[William Tell]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?425971-1/house-speaker-paul-ryan-briefs-reporters-decision-pull-health-care-bill&live

[Zippyjuan]

https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/healthcare-complicated-crop.jpg

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/02/19/20170227_obo_0.jpg

[Jan2017]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?425971-1/house-speaker-paul-ryan-briefs-reporters-decision-pull-health-care-bill&live

Thanks. All the news sites are streaming this Ryan press conference.

http://go.cnn.com/?stream=cnn%3Fsr

[PatriotOne]

:( I was hoping to get the weasels on record.

Maybe Trump wanted the weasels willing to sell out their constituency by voting yay on this bill on record also ;).

[William Tell]

Maybe Trump wanted the weasels willing to sell out their constituency by voting yay on this bill on record also ;).

Then why'd he give Ryan the green light to pull it?

[undergroundrr]

Maybe Trump wanted the weasels willing to sell out their constituency by voting yay on this bill on record also ;).

Apparently not.


House Republican leaders decided to pull their Obamacare replacement bill at the last minute at the request of President Donald Trump -- capping a rocky series of weeks since the controversial measure was introduced and an order from the president for legislators to put their cards on the table today.

A GOP aide tells ABC News that Trump called Speaker of the House Paul Ryan at 3 p.m. to tell him to pull the bill. The next House votes are scheduled for Monday, so no further votes are expected in the House for the day or the week.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ryan-pulls-gop-health-care-bill-call-trump/story?id=46346773

[PatriotOne]

Then why'd he give Ryan the green light to pull it?

Did he? Does Ryan needs Trumps permission to pull it? Or did he smell a trap? lol

[PatriotOne]

Apparently not.



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ryan-pulls-gop-health-care-bill-call-trump/story?id=46346773

Thanks. Good to know. Things ought to get real interesting on the next move :-).

[eleganz]

Guys this is exactly what Rand wanted.

Now the House will get to start over with a new bill (how big of a cock block can Paul Ryan be without looking like a bish?) for full repeal. Every single GOP will be held liable if they don't vote for repeal. Its a fight and Rand knew it from the beginning.

Rand must be feeling good today but a lot more media interviews ahead of him.

[phill4paul]

Did he? Does Ryan needs Trumps permission to pull it? Or did he smell a trap? lol

Ryan was reading the forums and came across dannno's posts and was alerted. If dannno wouldn't have put the plan out there Ryan might have fallen into the trap.

[William Tell]

Did he? Does Ryan needs Trumps permission to pull it? Or did he smell a trap? lol

He did give him the green light. Ryan did ask permission he said so in his press conference.

[Dr.3D]

So Paul Ryan tried . . .
Trump Insists on Vote to Repeal Health Care, Despite Facing Defeat
WASHINGTON — House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, facing a revolt among conservative and moderate Republicans, told President Trump on Friday that he did not have the votes to pass legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act and to decide whether to pull the bill from consideration. But the president insisted that lawmakers cast their public votes Friday afternoon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/health-care-affordable-care-act.html

CSPAN Live went blank though . . .and

So Ryan v. Trump . . . wonder who survives.
[/COLOR]Trump’s First Legislative Effort Fails as G.O.P. Pulls Bill to Repeal Obamacare
WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks, pulled legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act from consideration on the House floor Friday afternoon in a humiliating defeat for President Trump on the first legislative showdown of his presidency.[/COLOR]

I'm pretty sure if the bill had been just to repeal the Affordable Care Act, it would have been voted and passed.

[Zippyjuan]

He could not get enough Republican support so he blames Democrats for the bill's failure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/health-care-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0


Trump Blames Democrats as Major Push to Repeal Health Law Fails

WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks, pulled legislation to repeal the Affordable Care Act from consideration on the House floor Friday afternoon in a spectacular defeat for President Trump on the first legislative showdown of his presidency.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan conceded, “We’re going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future.”

Mr. Ryan had rushed to the White House shortly after noon to tell Mr. Trump he did not have the votes for a repeal bill that had been promised for seven years — since the day President Barack Obama signed his landmark health care act into law.

Mr. Trump, in a telephone interview moments after the bill was pulled, blamed Democrats and predicted that they would seek a deal within a year, he asserted, after “Obamacare explodes” because of high premiums.

He expressed weariness with the fight.

“The best thing that could happen is exactly what happened — watch,” he said. “It’s enough already.”

But the effort to win passage had been relentless — and hardly hidden. Vice President Mike Pence and Tom Price, the health secretary, rushed to Capitol Hill for a late appeal to House conservatives, but their pleas fell on deaf ears.



If this fight wore him out, it is going to be a long four years.


At 3:30 p.m., Mr. Ryan called Republicans into a closed-door meeting to deliver the news that the bill would be pulled, with no plans to try again. The meeting lasted five minutes.

“We’re going to go home and spend time with our families and time with our constituents, and one day I hope we can eventually repeal,” said Representative Chuck Fleischmann, Republican of Tennessee.


President Trump, through his budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told House Republicans on Thursday night that he was giving them this one chance to repeal the Affordable Care Act. If they failed, Mr. Mulvaney told them, the president would live with his predecessor’s law.

Rejection of the repeal bill may also prompt Republicans to reconsider the political strategy they were planning to use for the next few years.

“We have to do some soul-searching internally to determine whether or not we are even capable of functioning as a governing body,” said Representative Kevin Cramer, Republican of North Dakota. “If ‘no’ is your goal, it’s the easiest goal in the world to reach.”

[dannno]

Ryan was reading the forums and came across dannno's posts and was alerted. If dannno wouldn't have put the plan out there Ryan might have fallen into the trap.

Pretty sure Mike Cernovich is higher up on their radar.

https://www.periscope.tv/Cernovich

[PatriotOne]

I'm an oracle I tell ya :-). As I have said many times now...Ryan being "Bannoned".

Exclusive — Discussion About GOP Replacement to Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House Intensifies in White House, Congress

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/24/exclusive-discussion-gop-replacement-paul-ryan-speaker-house-intensifies-white-house-congress/

[dannno]

He could not get enough Republican support so he blames Democrats for the bill's failure.

That's because he doesn't want to throw his buddy Rand Paul under the bus.

[dannno]

Exclusive — Discussion About GOP Replacement to Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House Intensifies in White House, Congress

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/24/exclusive-discussion-gop-replacement-paul-ryan-speaker-house-intensifies-white-house-congress/

MAGA

[opal]

I'm pretty sure if the bill had been just to repeal the Affordable Care Act, it would have been voted and passed.

yep.. ^this^

[georgiaboy]

Art of the Rand
Rand of the Deal

[Zippyjuan]

That's because he doesn't want to throw his buddy Rand Paul under the bus.

I don't think Rand Paul is really a buddy to Donald Trump. Trump cares about how Trump looks.

[Jan2017]

I'm an oracle I tell ya :-). As I have said many times now...Ryan being "Bannoned".

Exclusive — Discussion About GOP Replacement to Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House Intensifies in White House, Congress

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/24/exclusive-discussion-gop-replacement-paul-ryan-speaker-house-intensifies-white-house-congress/

Asked explicitly whether President Trump has confidence in Ryan remaining as Speaker, White House press secretary Sean Spicer would not answer Breitbart News, yes or no.

[Zippyjuan]

Asked explicitly whether President Trump has confidence in Ryan remaining as Speaker, White House press secretary Sean Spicer would not answer Breitbart News, yes or no.


Breitbart has been pushing for the removal of Ryan.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html


Trump unhappy Jared Kushner took a powder on the ski slopes as health care bill floundered

While the rest of his senior staff scrambled to squeeze votes for President Trump's flailing health care package, one person remained notably absent for most of the week: Jared Kushner.

Along with this wife, Ivanka Trump, another key cog in the president's inner circle, Kushner was on vacation until Thursday, skiing with family in the posh Colorado town of Aspen. Paparazzi caught Jared and Ivanka taking leisurely strolls, enjoying ice cream cones with their three kids and winding their way down the slopes.

Meanwhile, back in Washington, Trump was fuming. According to a source close to the president, "[Trump] is upset that his son-in-law and senior adviser was not around during this crucial week." Kushner did appear at the White House on Friday during the last gasps of the Obamacare repeal effort.

A White House spokesperson flatly denied the President is frustrated with Kushner.

But it was clearly a busy week at the White House. As the health care bill teetered on the precipice without enough Republican votes to pass it, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the President "left everything on the field" in his efforts to get the bill passed. Republicans ultimately pulled the bill without a vote, a blow to Trump's early agenda.

It has not been entirely clear what specific role Kushner, who has no Capitol Hill or Washington background, would have played in a legislative effort.

When Ivanka and the kids took off for Aspen last weekend, sharing a ride on Trump's private 757 jet with Donald Trump, Jr. and his family and Eric and Lara Trump, Jared did stay behind in Washington. However, he only worked Monday, and by that evening was himself flying out to join the rest of the Trump clan. On Tuesday, an Instagram photo from Lara Trump showed Kushner and Ivanka on top of a mountain.



Trump complained about a lack of Democratic support for the bill when he did not speak to a single Democrat about it to try to win them over. He had a majority of his own party but could not get enough of them to support the legislation either.

[William Tell]

Thanks. Good to know. Things ought to get real interesting on the next move :-).

Yeah, here's the next move.


Trump said he would not ask Republican leaders to reintroduce the legislation in the coming weeks. Instead, he said he would wait for the current law encounter problems, believing that Democrats will want to work with the White House to make changes.

“As you know, I’ve been saying for years that the best thing is to let Obamacare explode and then go make a deal with the Democrats and have one unified deal. And they will come to us, we won’t have to come to them,” he said.

“The beauty,” Trump continued, “is that they own Obamacare. So when it explodes they come to us and we make one beautiful deal for the people.”

Trump said he had no problem waiting for Democrats to seek cooperation with Republicans on health-care.

“I never said I was going to repeal and replace in the first 61 days,” he said.

In fact, Trump said repeatedly as a candidate and before his inauguration that he would work to repeal the ACA on his first day in office. And congressional Republicans have spent the last seven years campaigning to undo the law. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-leaders-prepare-to-vote-friday-on-health-care-reform/2017/03/24/736f1cd6-1081-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.1ff88bd1b314

[Swordsmyth]

"House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks.... "


That sentence ....

So the leadership are?

[AuH20]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html



Trump complained about a lack of Democratic support for the bill when he did not speak to a single Democrat about it to try to win them over. He had a majority of his own party but could not get enough of them to support the legislation either.

Screw Trump for relying on that boob. Serves him right.

[Jan2017]

"House Republican leaders, facing a revolt among conservatives and moderates in their ranks.... "



So the leadership are?

I know, what is left -RINO?

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj-Dvr146Xk

[Matt Collins]

I'm pretty sure if the bill had been just to repeal the Affordable Care Act, it would have been voted and passed.Nope, because the RINOs (moderates) would not have voted for it, or would have been absent from the chamber during the vote. They are scared of the Dems being able to accuse them of taking away everyone's healthcare.

[Dr.3D]

Nope, because the RINOs (moderates) would not have voted for it, or would have been absent from the chamber during the vote. They are scared of the Dems being able to accuse them of taking away everyone's healthcare.
So once government gets into something and messes it up, it can't fix it and get out of it again?

No wonder things are so screwed up.

[Jan2017]

Nope, because the RINOs (moderates) would not have voted for it, or would have been absent from the chamber during the vote. They are scared of the Dems being able to accuse them of taking away everyone's healthcare.

Well Matt, they would have to at least record a "present" to help defeat and keep the needed number of "ayes" for a majority from the yes/no/present total.

That aside, Ryan lost his RINO clan yesterday (some solid "no" and I suspect some "present" GOP votes) while the Freedom Caucus held the line.

Wisconsin Republicans seem to understand.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ECGnpbsqZY

[undergroundrr]

Not presenting this as evidence, just an interesting possiblity, from fake news of course. One may presume the opposite is true.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/us/politics/trump-health-care-defeat-gop-civil-war.html?smid=tw-share


But his advisers were more realistic. Mr. Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, according to people familiar with White House discussions, described what happened as a flat-out failure that could inflict serious damage on this presidency — even if Mr. Bannon believes Congress, not Mr. Trump, deserves much of the blame.

Mr. Bannon and the president’s more soft-spoken legislative affairs director, Marc Short, pushed Mr. Trump hard to insist on a public vote, as a way to identify, shame and pressure “no” voters who were killing their last, best chance to unravel the health care law.

One Hill Republican aide who was involved in the last-minute negotiations said Mr. Bannon and Mr. Short were seeking to compile an enemies list. But Mr. Ryan repeatedly counseled the president to avoid seeking vengeance — at least until he has passed spending bills and a debt-ceiling increase needed to keep the government running.

[undergroundrr]

LOL, Ryan delivers a GWB-worthy quote : 'We're not going to give up on destroying the health care system'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3Px11xN-0&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

[Jan2017]

President Trump, through his budget director, Mick Mulvaney, told House Republicans on Thursday night that he was giving them this one chance to repeal the Affordable Care Act


Maybe that did happen . . . I really do not know/speculate about that, nor can confirm via youtube what I watched live via CSPAN's courtesy coverage to non-cable US citizens during the GOP House Stakeout, revealed after Priebus and Bannon walked out of the full GOP House Member meeting where they voted to vote - no holds barred.

Yep. Trump gives Ryan full support but I kinda think that bromance is over now - wonder who survives ?

4D chess is hard - all those multimatrix (if ya' speak Linux OpenSCAD)
I could be wrong of course, but maybe it is Trump's move after RINO Ryan went into hyperspace . . . checkers ?

[LibertyEagle]

So once government gets into something and messes it up, it can't fix it and get out of it again?

No wonder things are so screwed up.

True. But, it was already messed up before ObamaCare too.

[angelatc]

True. But, it was already messed up before ObamaCare too.

The government was in it before Obamacare too.

[Jan2017]

LOL, Ryan delivers a GWB-worthy quote : 'We're not going to give up on destroying the health care system'


Ryan : "We're not gonna give up on destroying the health care system for the American people"

I admit that is very funny -
but don't let SNL know before tonight's show please - Paul Ryan GOPe could suffer harm.

[Madison320]

Nope, because the RINOs (moderates) would not have voted for it, or would have been absent from the chamber during the vote. They are scared of the Dems being able to accuse them of taking away everyone's healthcare.

Exactly. Republicans are terrified of taking away the "preexisting condition" part of Obamacare. That's the part that makes it socialized healthcare and the part that makes it guaranteed to collapse. I heard a couple of conservative representatives on Hannity and they couldn't even utter the phrase "preexisting condition". They kept saying the "the regulation in the bill that drives up prices."

[jmdrake]

He could not get enough Republican support so he blames Democrats for the bill's failure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/health-care-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0



If this fight wore him out, it is going to be a long four years.

In a bizarre way Trump is right. Paul Ryan could have pushed Rand's bill and received 100% republican support. The "moderate" (socialist) republicans who don't really want a full repeal wouldn't have had the guts to face the tea party backlash had the voted against a clean repeal. Libtards are getting all of the press on the town halls because the teocons are too giddy over recent victories to worry. But let a republican vote against a clean repeal and see what happens. This bill was the dems last best hope to save Obamacare. They blew it.

[Dr.3D]

True. But, it was already messed up before ObamaCare too.
They didn't have my physician typing notes to them in a notebook computer when I was in the examination room, before Obamacare.

[Madison320]

In a bizarre way Trump is right. Paul Ryan could have pushed Rand's bill and received 100% republican support. The "moderate" (socialist) republicans who don't really want a full repeal wouldn't have had the guts to face the tea party backlash had the voted against a clean repeal. Libtards are getting all of the press on the town halls because the teocons are too giddy over recent victories to worry. But let a republican vote against a clean repeal and see what happens. This bill was the dems last best hope to save Obamacare. They blew it.

I think a lot of republicans want to keep Obamacare so they can have something bad to blame on democrats every election.

[Jan2017]

They didn't have my physician typing notes to them in a notebook computer when I was in the examination room, before Obamacare.

Were you a "difficult" patient ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ2msARQsKU

[AZJoe]

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