Sen. Rand Paul Meets with House Freedom Caucus: 25 Solid ‘No’ Votes Against RyanCare

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Sen. Rand Paul Meets with House Freedom Caucus: 25 Solid ‘No’ Votes Against RyanCare

by NEIL W. MCCABE
22 Mar 2017

The House Freedom Caucus announced after a Wednesday lunch meeting with Sen. Rand Paul (R.-KY) that it has 25 hard-no votes, enough to defeat the American Health Care Act crafted and promoted by Speaker Paul Ryan (R.-WI) as a rescue for insurance companies caught in the Obamacare “death spiral.”

Paul said the sooner the House Republican leadership disposes with the RyanCare bill, the sooner leadership can get together with Capitol Hill conservatives to draft a bill that repeals and replaces the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which created Obamacare.

There is no other way to go than for the speaker and his team to start over, Paul said. “They are going to have to, they don’t have the votes.”

Paul, who ran against Donald Trump in the Republican primaries, told reporters the defeat of Ryan’s insurance industry rescue bill is not a defeat for Trump.

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“This is really a defeat for Paul Ryan,” he said. “Ryan is going to have to come to conservatives now and ask for the votes he doesn’t have–if he has the votes, he doesn’t have to–but he is going to have to give conservatives a seat at the table.”

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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/22/sen-rand-paul-meets-house-freedom-caucus-25-solid-no-votes-ryancare/

[TruthBTold]

Rand runs the house AND the senate!

[dannno]

The deep state wanted people to associate the bill with Trump, hence we saw a bunch of people toting the "TrumpCare" line around here.

Fortunately the big hitters who know what they are doing are referring it to RyanCare -

If RyanCare fails the vote, it may cost him his job
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508872-If-RyanCare-fails-the-vote-it-may-cost-him-his-job

[afwjam]

The deep state wanted people to associate the bill with Trump, hence we saw a bunch of people toting the "TrumpCare" line around here.

Fortunately the big hitters who know what they are doing are referring it to RyanCare -

If RyanCare fails the vote, it may cost him his job


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508872-If-RyanCare-fails-the-vote-it-may-cost-him-his-job


You dont think it might have something to do with him endorsing it numerous times?

[dannno]

You dont think it might have something to do with him endorsing it numerous times?

So you believe Trump when he says something you don't like, but you don't believe Trump when he says something you do like?

[CPUd]

Trumpcare == single payer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJfKdp3bDs

[afwjam]

So you believe Trump when he says something you don't like, but you don't believe Trump when he says something you do like?

What?
I don't believe anything trump says.

[dannno]

What?
I don't believe anything trump says.

Ok, so you don't think he supports the AHCA?

[afwjam]

Ok, so you don't think he supports the AHCA?

No I don't. I assume he supports big government.

[Jamesiv1]

What?
I don't believe anything trump says.
You might want to do some research before you embarrass yourself again.

[dannno]

No I don't. I assume he supports big government.

According to Massie, the AHCA is big government, do you disagree with him? So I guess according to you, Trump should like it then. Which means he is telling the truth?

[Dary]

Dobbs is reporting that an agreement has been reached and that there WILL be enough votes to pass the house.

[CPUd]

Dobbs is reporting that an agreement has been reached and that there WILL be enough votes to pass the house.

Did they find some Democrats to vote for it?

[eleganz]

Nice to see conservatism is stronger when Rand Paul is leading the charge.

[TruthBTold]

Rand has more power than the speaker of the house.

[eleganz]

Rand has more power than the speaker of the house.

A very true statement today.

[devil21]

Obamacare was a screw job from the start and there was no way to unwind the damage it was intended to cause. If it stays, the health care system continues to collapse to make way for single payer. If Ryancare (Rand calling it a insurance bailout is the most accurate characterization possible) is enacted, it does't stop the collapse, it only forces money to the insurance companies as they die on the vine. Single payer is still the outcome. The main difference was that under Obamacare people could "opt out" of the penalty by refusing to give Treasury an interest free loan for the year (tax refund) and not allowing the IRS to take the penalty from the refund. In these financially uncertain times, people NEED to be able to hang on to as much $$ as possible. Ryan's bill kills that loophole.

Politically, letting the system collapse on the Dem's legislation at least helps Republicans to later keep the blame where it should be. Not that it will make much difference to the end result of the system though.