View Full Version : Trump to Press on Wiretapping: "At Least we (Merkel & I) have something in common." LMAO
Gumba of Liberty
03-17-2017, 02:24 PM
A thing of beauty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWuZENXs0k
Drops Mic.
AngryCanadian
03-17-2017, 02:28 PM
Liberals were clearer triggered on social media by his comments lol.
Was this before or after he apologized to the British PM and tried to blame it on Judge Nap?
nikcers
03-17-2017, 02:41 PM
I wish he would go back to comedy
“When I see Trump, I see a standup comedian,” The Daily Show host Trevor Noah told CNN’s Van Jones on tonight’s The Messy Truth town hall series.“He connects with audiences in the same way. He knows how to make you laugh in a moment when you didn’t think you would,”
Gumba of Liberty
03-17-2017, 02:43 PM
Was this before or after he apologized to the British PM and tried to blame it on Judge Nap?
Anti-Trumper trying to derail a thread that should bring us together. We love liberty and hate spying on this forum and in this movement. Please take your divide and conquer strategy somewhere else.
Gumba of Liberty
03-17-2017, 02:45 PM
I wish he would go back to comedy
Your agenda is obvious. See above.
enhanced_deficit
03-17-2017, 02:46 PM
This seems like very harsh attack on deep end of the sate.
nikcers
03-17-2017, 02:59 PM
Your agenda is obvious. See above.
Agenda is obvious? at least I come in here to discuss Ron Paul. You just come in here and talk about how awesome your nationalistic neocon is.
Anti-Trumper trying to derail a thread that should bring us together. We love liberty and hate spying on this forum and in this movement. Please take your divide and conquer strategy somewhere else.
It was a serious question. There is actual evidence Merkel was spied on by NSA and GCHQ, while the White House can't produce any evidence that the same happened to Trump. Instead, the official White House position is that Fox News and Judge Nap are full of shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vAEKnksUk
Apparently, the conference with Merkel happened after the apology.
klamath
03-17-2017, 04:23 PM
Have more respect for Merkel, than trump. She may have screwed up allowing too many middle eastern refugees, but she abstained from destroying Libya and messing in Syria like Obama and other European countries did with Trumpy's support. At least she didn't participate in the violent destruction of muslim countries and their economies and then turn with vile hatred on the desperate refugees. When he refused to shake her hand a little spittle in his face would have been appropriate.
842775869823377409
https://twitter.com/davidmackau/status/842775869823377409
AngryCanadian
03-17-2017, 09:51 PM
Have more respect for Merkel, than trump. She may have screwed up allowing too many middle eastern refugees, but she abstained from destroying Libya and messing in Syria like Obama and other European countries did with Trumpy's support. At least she didn't participate in the violent destruction of muslim countries and their economies and then turn with vile hatred on the desperate refugees. When he refused to shake her hand a little spittle in his face would have been appropriate.
she abstained from destroying Libya and messing in Syria like Obama and other European countries did with Trumpy's support
Thats where ur wrong.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 09:55 AM
Agenda is obvious? at least I come in here to discuss Ron Paul. You just come in here and talk about how awesome your nationalistic neocon is.
Please quote me on my love for neocons. I would love to see it.
In regards to nationalism, all I am doing is exposing your hypocrisy. You vehemently hate anything Trump does even the positive stuff (like exposing the MSM as an arm of the Deep State). I am less afraid of a true, red-blooded nationalist than a Neocon "Making the World Safe for Goldman Sachs". For this I am labeled a "Trumper", baloney. Your just blind.
By the way, individuals have the Right to form private, exclusionary clubs including nations. For more on this I will defer to Rothbard's Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation-State: https://mises.org/library/nations-consent-decomposing-nation-state-0
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 09:59 AM
It was a serious question. There is actual evidence Merkel was spied on by NSA and GCHQ, while the White House can't produce any evidence that the same happened to Trump. Instead, the official White House position is that Fox News and Judge Nap are full of $#@!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vAEKnksUk
Apparently, the conference with Merkel happened after the apology.
Actually, the "Great Legal Mind" Trump was speaking of is Judge Napolitano. He's not throwing him under the bus, he believes him. Said differently, President Donald J Trump listens to and respects Judge Napolitano. Explain to me how this is bad for liberty?
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 10:05 AM
Have more respect for Merkel, than trump. She may have screwed up allowing too many middle eastern refugees, but she abstained from destroying Libya and messing in Syria like Obama and other European countries did with Trumpy's support. At least she didn't participate in the violent destruction of muslim countries and their economies and then turn with vile hatred on the desperate refugees. When he refused to shake her hand a little spittle in his face would have been appropriate.
Trump hasn't destroyed any Middle Eastern countries, either. What do you think the whole "If our politicians went to the beach, fifteen years ago, we would be in a much better situation" thing all about?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-us-better-off-if-obama-bush-had-gone-to-the-beach/article/2615672
Actually, the "Great Legal Mind" Trump was speaking of is Judge Napolitano. He's not throwing him under the bus, he believes him. Said differently, President Donald J Trump listens to and respects Judge Napolitano. Explain to me how this is bad for liberty?
It will be apparent when he gets fired by Fox News again.
otherone
03-18-2017, 10:24 AM
By the way, individuals have the Right to form private, exclusionary clubs including nations.
SWEET!.
I just formed one.
Get off my property.
klamath
03-18-2017, 10:25 AM
Trump hasn't destroyed any Middle Eastern countries, either. What do you think the whole "If our politicians went to the beach, fifteen years ago, we would be in a much better situation" thing all about?
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-us-better-off-if-obama-bush-had-gone-to-the-beach/article/2615672 At the time he supported both wars, and he now continues and expands them. More troops going into Syria, drone strikes jumping in countries like Yemen. They are solidly HIS wars now. He was able to issues a unconstitutional eo on emigrants in days, but not one single move to disengage from wars, only expansions.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 10:26 AM
It will be apparent when he gets fired by Fox News again.
And joins Bannon as a Presidental Advisor? We can only hope.
donnay
03-18-2017, 10:27 AM
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Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 10:28 AM
SWEET!.
I just formed one.
Get off my property.
You do you.
donnay
03-18-2017, 10:32 AM
It will be apparent when he gets fired by Fox News again.
Wow like that would be a bad thing. Rupert Murdock loves Hillary Klingon.
otherone
03-18-2017, 10:41 AM
You do you.
REALLY wish DJT would write an executive order making English the national language.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 10:48 AM
At the time he supported both wars, and he now continues and expands them. More troops going into Syria, drone strikes jumping in countries like Yemen. They are solidly HIS wars now. He was able to issues a unconstitutional eo on emigrants in days, but not one single move to disengage from wars, only expansions.
I don't think this is fair. I have seen Trump denounce the wars in Iraq and Libya. I've seen Trump denounce wars of aggression multiple times on the campaign trail and as President.
It's important to remember that ISIS was funded and trained by the CIA/Saudis/Israelis. The Obama Administration and foreigners were using ISIS as a boogeyman to increase the Defense Budget and please the Military Industrial Complex.
I have no idea what Trump is doing right now in the Middle East (none of use will really know for a few months) but I do know that Trump promised his supporters he would "knock out" ISIS and then support Middle Eastern Peace Negotiations. Compare that to Merkle and her warmongering with Russia, support for the technocratic EU (and an EU Army) and destruction of Germany via mass migration and there is no comparison. Merkle is a globalist, deep state stooge. I wouldn't shake her hand either.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 10:50 AM
REALLY wish DJT would write an executive order making English the national language.
Trump isn't the leader of a nation, he is a head of State. The USA is at least 13 distinct nations (many would argue there are way more than that). A real nation doesn't need a law passed to have a national language. They have a national language because they organically created their own. The Nation is not the State.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uuk7Hkzf8c
klamath
03-18-2017, 11:10 AM
I don't think this is fair. I have seen Trump denounce the wars in Iraq and Libya. I've seen Trump denounce wars of aggression multiple times on the campaign trail and as President.
It's important to remember that ISIS was funded and trained by the CIA/Saudis/Israelis. The Obama Administration and foreigners were using ISIS as a boogeyman to increase the Defense Budget and please the Military Industrial Complex.
I have no idea what Trump is doing right now in the Middle East (none of use will really know for a few months) but I do know that Trump promised his supporters he would "knock out" ISIS and then support Middle Eastern Peace Negotiations. Compare that to Merkle and her warmongering with Russia, support for the technocratic EU (and an EU Army) and destruction of Germany via mass migration and there is no comparison. Merkle is a globalist, deep state stooge. I wouldn't shake her hand either.It is quite obvious you have no idea what Trump is doing in the middle east. And fighting ISIS is exactly what all the earlier invasions were about except it was called al Qaeda then. Trump has said something on EVERY side of the wars but now only action matters. He is failing miserably. Does Syria want US troops on their soil? Are you talking about the Saudis that somehow did not get on trumps travel ban even though they have provided the most terror attacks on the US? I smell a rat.
klamath
03-18-2017, 11:11 AM
Trump isn't the leader of a nation, he is a head of State. The USA is at least 13 distinct nations (many would argue there are way more than that). A real nation doesn't need a law passed to have a national language. They have a national language because they organically created their own. The Nation is not the State.
You are right about one thing. He IS NOT A LEADER.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 11:34 AM
It is quite obvious you have no idea what Trump is doing in the middle east. And fighting ISIS is exactly what all the earlier invasions were about except it was called al Qaeda then. Trump has said something on EVERY side of the wars but now only action matters. He is failing miserably. Does Syria want US troops on their soil? Are you talking about the Saudis that somehow did not get on trumps travel ban even though they have provided the most terror attacks on the US? I smell a rat.
The ME reports coming out are troubling but with so much propaganda and misinformation I think it's premature to have your level of conviction. We will have a much clearer understanding by the summer. I do agree with you on one thing: If I were President, I would have pulled out the troops yesterday.
In regards to the House of Saud, I only have one word: Petrodollar.
We need to wait until summer when hopefully President Donald will have defeated ISIS and gave conquered territory in Syria back to Assad after Tex Drillerson goes in to take the oil for our payment and ensure continuing peace by selling weapons to the Saudi for their own self defense.
silverhandorder
03-18-2017, 11:54 AM
Agenda is obvious? at least I come in here to discuss Ron Paul. You just come in here and talk about how awesome your nationalistic neocon is.
Proof? All I see is autistic screeching from you.
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 12:02 PM
We need to wait until summer when hopefully President Donald will have defeated ISIS and gave conquered territory in Syria back to Assad after Tex Drillerson goes in to take the oil for our payment and ensure continuing peace by selling weapons to the Saudi for their own self defense.
Unless you have friends at NSA or GCHQ who can forward us their recent intercepts from the Oval Office, I'll stick to the wait and see approach.
AZJoe
03-18-2017, 12:03 PM
https://pics.onsizzle.com/wiretap-me-the-guy-who-ordered-the-nsa-to-track-16055257.png
http://i.imgur.com/99iB3DM.jpg
Ender
03-18-2017, 12:18 PM
The ME reports coming out are troubling but with so much propaganda and misinformation I think it's premature to have your level of conviction. We will have a much clearer understanding by the summer. I do agree with you on one thing: If I were President, I would have pulled out the troops yesterday.
In regards to the House of Saud, I only have one word: Petrodollar.
Ron Paul's level of conviction:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508448-Race-For-Raqqa-Major-US-Escalation-In-Syria
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508631-Trump-Saudi-Collusion-Laying-Plans-For-More-War-In-The-Middle-East
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 01:04 PM
Ron Paul's level of conviction:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508448-Race-For-Raqqa-Major-US-Escalation-In-Syria
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508631-Trump-Saudi-Collusion-Laying-Plans-For-More-War-In-The-Middle-East
I'm more optimistic. I see positives, even in the mainstream press.
The U.S. was once supportive of the Syrian opposition, but has since shifted its support to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). The SDF has been labeled a terrorist organization by Turkey for its affiliation with Kurdish militants and Ankara launched an August invasion of Syria to support rebel groups and dislodge SDF and ISIS areas of influence. These developments have led to a tentative alliance between the U.S-backed SDF and Russia-backed Syrian army as they jointly held areas in the northwestern town of Manbij. All three international powers and their sponsored forces have sought to play a key role in defeating ISIS in its de facto capital of Raqqa in northern Syria.
http://www.newsweek.com/syria-war-us-rebels-russia-isis-israel-569812
U.S. & SDF "Tentative Alliance" with Russia & Syrian Army against ISIS & Israel? You can't make this stuff up. Regardless, this sounds like a major shift in US Policy. Let's hope tentative becomes permanent and they bring the war to an end.
The perennial wildcard is Israel.
klamath
03-18-2017, 01:17 PM
I'm more optimistic. I see positives, even in the mainstream press.
http://www.newsweek.com/syria-war-us-rebels-russia-isis-israel-569812
U.S. & SDF "Tentative Alliance" with Russia & Syrian Army against ISIS & Israel? You can't make this stuff up. Regardless, this sounds like a major shift in US Policy. Let's hope tentative becomes permanent and they bring the war to an end.
The perennial wildcard is Israel.
Whats so great about this? Now we can add turkey to an enemies list. This post is a prime example of how people NEVER understood Ron Paul's non interventionism. Oh great we have changed our allies in the middle of a war. Isn't that great!
Gumba of Liberty
03-18-2017, 01:45 PM
Whats so great about this? Now we can add turkey to an enemies list. This post is a prime example of how people NEVER understood Ron Paul's non interventionism. Oh great we have changed our allies in the middle of a war. Isn't that great!
What the anti-trumpers on this forum cannot seem to grasp is that there is a possibility that Trump is not controlled by the same people who controlled Clinton, Bush & Obama. That the possibly remains that Trump might just be trying to keep his campaign promises. On the domestic front Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do, why do you think he's lying about his foreign policy? All I am pointing out is that Trump said he would intervene in the Middle East to "knock out" ISIS. Once ISIS is defeated Trump said he would leave other nations alone to manage their own affairs. This is a drastically better policy than we had under Bush and Obama who were never seriously fighting either Al Qaeda or ISIS and were instead using these CIA trained and funded groups to increase the defense budget and frighten Americans into giving up more and more of their liberties. Trump is a Statist-Nationalist and we should call him out when he's wrong (cop worship, trillion dollar infrastructure projects, universal health insurance, drug prohibition, the wall, Hamiltonian American System crap, etc) and give him credit when he is right.
ISIS was funded and trained by CIA/M16/Mossad/Saudis. ISIS is committing Christian Genocide in Syria. Trump has switch US support from ISIS to forces aligned with the legitimate Assad Regime in Syria who is protecting Christians. M16/Mossad/Saudis have not switched their support and are still funding ISIS. ISIS is still killing innocent people and the U.S. has blood on its hands. I understand why someone would want to intervene to right a wrong of a previous Administration. I don't agree with it but I understand it.
So far Trump has kept his word. Once ISIS is defeated we will see if he does the same in foreign policy.
merkelstan
03-18-2017, 02:05 PM
A little bird told me that US supplying of terrorists in Syria with weapons has stopped.
nikcers
03-18-2017, 02:22 PM
A little bird told me that US supplying of terrorists in Syria with weapons has stopped.
US troops are in there instead, they won't turn against us I think is the thought process.
enhanced_deficit
03-18-2017, 05:09 PM
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Sure it was talk radio cuz no theory is ever started by left wing neocons.
Trump: Hillary Started “Birtherism.” Liberal Reporter: Trump is Right (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?501261-Trump-Hillary-Started-%E2%80%9CBirtherism-%E2%80%9D-Liberal-Reporter-Trump-is-Right&)
devil21
03-18-2017, 09:55 PM
The best part of that press conference was when Trump had a freudian slip and called the US a "company"....errr country.
So far Trump has kept his word. Once ISIS is defeated we will see if he does the same in foreign policy.
So far, Trump hasn't done anything but flap his lips. A few EOs of dubious content and enforcement, that's it. Seems to me that Trump, Congress and the media are all doing nothing but killing time with manufactured story after manufactured story, most sound straight from a Tom Clancy book. Whatever you do, just don't look at the economic news.
TheCount
03-18-2017, 10:09 PM
Once ISIS is defeated we will see if he does the same in foreign policy.'Until ISIS is defeated' has the potential to be an endless war.
devil21
03-18-2017, 11:09 PM
'Until ISIS is defeated' has the potential to be an endless war.
And they intend it to be. How else will american youngsters forever be the military of the bankers?
http://new1.fjcdn.com/pictures/Politics_5568b5_5447876.jpg
unknown
03-19-2017, 12:27 AM
Anti-Trumper trying to derail a thread that should bring us together. We love liberty and hate spying on this forum and in this movement. Please take your divide and conquer strategy somewhere else.
Ron Paulers are against warrant-less spying but Trump isnt.
He wants to expand the surveillance state.
FBI and NSA Poised to Gain New Surveillance Powers Under Trump (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-29/fbi-and-nsa-poised-to-gain-new-surveillance-powers-under-trump).
He has called Snowden a traitor subject to the death penalty, supports civil asset forfeiture, wants to expand the Police State Industrial Complex and re-militarize the police...
But this is no surprise, we knew that Trump was an authoritarian.
I'm just waiting to see whether he's learned anything from the recording and release of the leaked conversations.
If this doesnt wake him up, not sure what will.
unknown
03-19-2017, 12:31 AM
https://pics.onsizzle.com/wiretap-me-the-guy-who-ordered-the-nsa-to-track-16055257.png
Sure Obama continued and expanded the surveillance state, but lets be honest, Bush got the ball rolling.
merkelstan
03-19-2017, 12:39 AM
Ron Paulers are against warrant-less spying but Trump isnt.
He wants to expand the surveillance state.
FBI and NSA Poised to Gain New Surveillance Powers Under Trump (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-29/fbi-and-nsa-poised-to-gain-new-surveillance-powers-under-trump).
He has called Snowden a traitor subject to the death penalty, supports civil asset forfeiture, wants to expand the Police State Industrial Complex and re-militarize the police...
But this is no surprise, we knew that Trump was an authoritarian.
I'm just waiting to see whether he's learned anything from the recording and release of the leaked conversations.
If this doesnt wake him up, not sure what will.
I'm not a Trump fan, but I do think he was our only chance to avoid war with Russia.
Suppose he were against the surveillance state. Could he really stop it?
unknown
03-19-2017, 12:42 AM
I'm not a Trump fan, but I do think he was our only chance to avoid war with Russia.
Suppose he were against the surveillance state. Could he really stop it?
Of-course.
Or at-least I think so. Replace the heads of the NSA/CIA/FBI etc. Better yet, start to dismantle these agencies altogether.
He could even use one of his favorite tactics: an EO!
merkelstan
03-19-2017, 12:58 AM
Of-course.
Or at-least I think so. Replace the heads of the NSA/CIA/FBI etc. Better yet, start to dismantle these agencies altogether.
He could even use one of his favorite tactics: an EO!
Please watch Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister
best education on how things really work that I ever got // and bitingly funny
UWDude
03-19-2017, 01:48 AM
Of-course.
Or at-least I think so. Replace the heads of the NSA/CIA/FBI etc. Better yet, start to dismantle these agencies altogether.
He could even use one of his favorite tactics: an EO!
EASY HUH!?
Mordan
03-19-2017, 09:24 AM
A thing of beauty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWuZENXs0k
Drops Mic.
Excellent.
Don't be disheartened by CPUd, nickcers. They are probably paid to sow dissent. Trump is doing an excellent job. Sure he has flaws but you can't expect Trump to do every little libertarian dream. Once you like Trump, you see the good side. He is a good guy.
randomname
03-19-2017, 09:36 AM
Apparently, the conference with Merkel happened after the apology.
Apparently, the apology never happened https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/842770313217785856
nikcers
03-19-2017, 09:41 AM
Excellent.
Don't be disheartened by CPUd, nickcers. They are probably paid to sow dissent. Trump is doing an excellent job. Sure he has flaws but you can't expect Trump to do every little libertarian dream. Once you like Trump, you see the good side. He is a good guy. WTF dude don't imply what I am paid to do, you don't know who I am.
Mordan
03-19-2017, 09:42 AM
WTF dude don't imply what I am paid to do, you don't know who I am.
you deleted your RPF account when Dude outed you.
nikcers
03-19-2017, 09:44 AM
Next visit with Japan, Remember when we nuked you twice, that was awesome wasn't' it?
nikcers
03-19-2017, 09:45 AM
you deleted your RPF account when Dude outed you. Outed what he is UWdude implied that I was praising clinton because I said he was running a proxy campaign through his wife and he never started a nuclear war, he could of during his 8 years presidency. He then Called me nigel Grimmer, from britain, he is a shill just like you are.
Gumba of Liberty
03-19-2017, 10:08 AM
Excellent.
Don't be disheartened by CPUd, nickcers. They are probably paid to sow dissent. Trump is doing an excellent job. Sure he has flaws but you can't expect Trump to do every little libertarian dream. Once you like Trump, you see the good side. He is a good guy.
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nikcers
03-19-2017, 10:10 AM
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Gumba of Liberty
03-19-2017, 10:30 AM
How many sock puppets are there?
Are you including politicians, judges, anchors, talking heads, economists, foreign policy/intelligence "experts", celebrities, radio personalities, directors, musicians, etc? Probably over 50,000.
Edit: if you include the Military, CIA/Intellegence Community, BLM/Federalize Police etc. you're up to 6 million.
enhanced_deficit
03-19-2017, 01:55 PM
In brief TV news media sampling, they seem to focus on Merkel handshake scandal but have not seen them report this Trump statement even once .
Trump is a genius when it comes media management. And the pregnant pause after he delivers the line lol
Zippyjuan
03-19-2017, 02:10 PM
Will Trump present his evidence this week?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/five-things-to-watch-at-the-house-intelligence-committee-russia-hearing/2017/03/19/53f7a492-0cb5-11e7-9b0d-d27c98455440_story.html?utm_term=.5363aa61f557
FBI Director James B. Comey and Adm. Mike Rogers, director of the NSA, will appear Monday before the House Intelligence Committee to speak about alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, including potential connections between President Trump’s inner circle and the Kremlin.
It is the first time Comey and Rogers have testified publicly since Trump took office two months ago — a period during which Trump’s first national security adviser, Michael Flynn, resigned and Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from Trump-related investigations.
In recent weeks, Trump joined the fray with counter-accusations of his own, such as his unfounded charge that the Obama administration conducted a wiretap of his phones at Trump Tower in New York.
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee confirmed on “Fox News Sunday” that there was no evidence to suggest that Trump was wiretapped. Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) said he has seen Justice Department documents requested by the panel confirming that information; they were turned over to his committee Friday.
“Was there a physical wiretap of Trump Tower? No, but there never was, and the information we got on Friday continues to lead us in that direction,” Nunes said.
The Intelligence Committee hearing is the opening foray into getting public answers on these topics. On March 28, former spy chiefs and administration officials will also appear before the panel to give their take on what, if anything, transpired between Trump’s team and Russian officials during the heat of the presidential campaign.
Mordan
03-19-2017, 03:15 PM
Will Trump present his evidence this week?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/five-things-to-watch-at-the-house-intelligence-committee-russia-hearing/2017/03/19/53f7a492-0cb5-11e7-9b0d-d27c98455440_story.html?utm_term=.5363aa61f557
this is so off topic.... seems like you are paid to reply with WaPO fake news propaganda in unrelated threads.
nikcers
03-19-2017, 03:18 PM
this is so off topic.... seems like you are paid to reply with WaPO fake news propaganda in unrelated threads.
damn it you made me click the link because I thought you were right and it was off topic. You made me read that garbage for no reason, it looks like you are just full of hot air today aren't you?
Trump to Press on Wiretapping: "At Least we (Merkel & I) have something in common." LMAO
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee confirmed on “Fox News Sunday” that there was no evidence to suggest that Trump was wiretapped. Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) said he has seen Justice Department documents requested by the panel confirming that information; they were turned over to his committee Friday.
Zippyjuan
03-19-2017, 03:19 PM
this is so off topic.... seems like you are paid to reply with WaPO fake news propaganda in unrelated threads.
On topic- it is about the alleged wire tapping. White House Officials expected to testify at Congressional Intelligence hearing on Monday. Trump- Russia potential connections also a topic for the same hearing.
“Was there a physical wiretap of Trump Tower? No, but there never was, and the information we got on Friday continues to lead us in that direction,” Nunes said.
The Intelligence Committee hearing is the opening foray into getting public answers on these topics.
nikcers
03-19-2017, 03:43 PM
On topic- it is about the alleged wire tapping. White House Officials expected to testify at Congressional Intelligence hearing on Monday. Trump- Russia potential connections also a topic for the same hearing.
They do the same thing the liberals do the Trump all day. They attack him for all the wrong dumb stupid ass reasons and then no one takes attacks against you seriously. I end up defending your posts not because of their integrity but because of the Trolls baseless attacks.
Gumba of Liberty
03-19-2017, 06:05 PM
In brief TV news media sampling, they seem to focus on Merkel handshake scandal but have not seen them report this Trump statement even once .
Trump is a genius when it comes media management. And the pregnant pause after he delivers the line lol
This is when you know you've struck gold. The total media blackout reaks of desperation, and I love it.
klamath
03-19-2017, 06:43 PM
This is when you know you've struck gold. The total media blackout reaks of desperation, and I love it.
Actually this is what I see when trump thinks he has distracted the press by throwing a stick.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d921M-ACMM4&t=132s
donnay
03-19-2017, 06:56 PM
NSA DOCUMENTS PROVE SURVEILLANCE OF DONALD TRUMP & HIS FAMILY
Bombshell discovery shows targets of NSA's "Project Dragnet"
Jerome Corsi | Infowars.com - MARCH 19, 2017
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Infowars.com have obtained credible information from law enforcement sources regarding individual records of U.S. citizens under National Security Agency (NSA) electronic surveillance in the years 2004 through 2010 – a database that suggests both Donald J. Trump and Alex Jones were under illegal, unauthorized government monitoring during those years.
Michael Zullo, formerly the commander and chief investigator of the Cold Case Posse (CCP), a special investigative group created in 2006 in the office of Joseph M. Arpaio, formerly the sheriff in Maricopa County, an Arizona State Certified Law Enforcement Agency, headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, provided sections of the database to Infowars.com.
The electronic surveillance database, provided to Zullo by a whistleblower in 2013, was apparently created by the NSA as part of the NSA’s illegal and unconstitutional Project Dragnet electronic surveillance of U.S. citizens, first revealed by news reports published in 2005, as further documented by the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden in 2013.
Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have identified dozens of entries at various addresses, including both Trump Tower in New York City and Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, under which Donald Trump was apparently under NSA electronic surveillance from 2004, during President George W. Bush’s term of office, through 2009, the first year of President Obama’s presidency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=GTT5FVyGMUU
Electronic surveillance of Donald Trump was listed in the database for the following companies, locations, and dates:
Trump International
1 Central Park, NYC, NY
2008
Trump World Tower
845 United Nations Plaza, NYC, NY
No Date
Trump Tower SAL
108 Central Park, NYC, NY
2007
Trump Palace Co
200 E. 69th Street A, NYC, NY
2008
Trump Entertainment
725 Fifth Ave. FL, NYC, NY
2007
Trump Organization
725 Fifth Ave. BSM, NYC, NY
2009
Trump Palace
725 Fifth Ave., NYC, NY
2004
Mar-a-Lago Club
1100 S. Ocean BL, Palm Beach, FL
2006
Trump International
401 N. Wabash Ave., Chicago, IL
2008
Douglass Limousine
239 Nassau St., Princeton, NJ
2008
Trump International
3505 Summit BLV, West Palm Beach, FL
2004
Flights INC
P.O. Box 196, Hamilton MA
2004
Trump International
1 Central Park, NYC, NY
2008
Trump Hotels
Huron Ave., Atlantic City, NJ
No Date
Trump National
339 Pine Rd, Briarcliff, NY
No Date
Trump Plaza & C
2500 Pacific Ave, Atlantic City, NJ
2008
Trump Palace Co.
200 E. 69th St., NYC, NY
2008
Seven Springs
66 Oregon Rd, Mount Kisco, NY
2006-2008
While attempts have been made to deny such domestic surveillance, reports from the New York Times in 2014 showed the Central Intelligence Agency had done just that by spying on a senate panel investigating the agency’s use of “enhanced interrogation.”
https://www.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/CIA-Panel.jpg
In a 2016 article from The Guardian entitled, “‘A constitutional crisis’: the CIA turns on the Senate,” it is likewise noted just how drastic and widespread the CIA’s domestic surveillance operation was.
https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/GuardianSenate.jpg
As revealed from the Dragnet database, not only was Trump himself surveilled but so were numerous employees of his located at Trump Tower.
Former CIA officer Larry Johnson recently joined the Alex Jones show to discuss how intelligence sources have stated that such surveillance of Trump during the presidential election in fact took place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=hXRlQHgqWD0
Here is a partial list of the Trump employees that show up in the Project Dragnet database:
• Patricia Hernandez, a Manager for the Trump Organization, was under NSA electronic surveillance at Trump Parc, Central Park South, in New York City, at phone 212-586-xxxx, date: 9/16/2008.
• Mike van der Goes, a Golf Pro at Oceans Trails Golf Course in Palos Verdes, who was promoted to be general manager when Trump bought the course from the bank in 2005 and renamed it Trump National. Mike van der Goes was under surveillance at Trump National, 1 Ocean TRL, Rancho Palos Verdes, California, at phone: 310-265-xxxx, no date.
• Carolyn Kepcher, a frequent guest on NBC’s television program “The Apprentice,” who was under NSA electronic surveillance when she was General Manager at the Trump National Golf Course in Briarcliff, New York, in Westchester County north of New York City, at 339 Pine Rd., in Briarcliff, New York, at phone 914-944-xxxx, date: 9/7/206.
• Joe Traci, a Real Estate Property Manager at Trump New World Property Management, at 438 W. 69th Street, New York City, phone 212-769-xxxx, date: 11/12/2008; and at 5 12th Street, New York City, phone: 212-586-xxxx, no date.
• Roger Socio, a Senior Project Manager, Trump Organization, Trump Tower, 725 Fifth Avenue, New York City, phone: 212-715-xxxx, 2/23/2009.
• Bill Fichter, Residents Manager, Trump Organization, Trump Palace, 200 E. 69th Street, New York City, phone: 212-879-xxxx, date: 2/24/2009.
• Florin Bogosel, Trump Park Avenue, 502 Park Avenue, New York City, phone: 212-223-xxxx, no date.
• Grace Dunne, Trump Park Residence, 3770 Barger Street, Shrub Oak, New York, phone: 914-245-xxxx, date 1/26/2006.
• Greg Bradley, Vice President, Trump Pavilion for Nursing and Rehabilitation, 9028 Van Wyck, East Richmond Hill, New York, phone: 718-291-xxxx, no date.
All these employees appear to have been under NSA phone surveillance, plus various of them under financial surveillance as well.
The Project Dragnet database suggests Trump was under surveillance not only for phone conversations, but also for financial information, including most likely bank account transactions, credit card transactions, and tax filings.
Both federal and state law enforcement have had access to the Project Dragnet database, allowing widespread use for methods such as parallel construction. The practice, outlined in the 2013 Reuters article, “U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans,” reveals the breadth of information that trickles down to law enforcement from high-level intelligence agencies.
https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Reuters.jpg
Also listed as under NSA surveillance in the period 2004-2010 was Trump’s former wife, Ivanka Trump at House of Ivanka, 10 East 64th Street, New York City.
The Project Dragnet database also indicates that the NSA was conducting electronic surveillance on an extensive list of Trump employees in the years 2004-2010 – the only years for which Sheriff Arpaio had data.
Alex Jones is listed as being under electronic surveillance for phone records, as well as under surveillance for financial records, in 2006. The address listed for Alex Jones in the NSA Project Dragnet database was correct for his residence at that time. So too, Alex Jones confirmed the phone number listed was also correct.
Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have validated through law enforcement channels the validity of the name, address, and telephone numbers for the dates that appear in the Project Dragnet database.
Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo are prepared to share relevant information with appropriate federal law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, as well as the Department of Justice, Homeland Security Department, the White House, and members of Congress the Project Dragnet Database in whole, or in part, as it pertains to NSA electronic surveillance of Donald J. Trump and his various employee.
Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo also show up in the database, listed as being under both phone and financial surveillance.
Zullo explained that he and Arpaio came in contact with the information from Operation Dragnet during an unrelated investigation that began in October 2013 and ended January 2015.
A whistleblower by the name of Dennis Montgomery brought forward information that Montgomery alleges was collected while he was employed as a subcontractor for the NSA, working on various surveillance projects.
Court documents do verify Montgomery was contracted by the NSA, in part to develop computer breaching software that has been utilized in government mass surveillance operations targeting American citizens without legal justification.
While Montgomery’s credibility has been called into question, Zullo maintains that the amount of information provided by Montgomery related to Operation Dragnet was extraordinarily voluminous and that Montgomery had shared information with investigators in 2013 that is only now being revealed by media outlets.
https://www.infowars.com/nsa-documents-prove-surveillance-on-donald-trump-and-alex-jones/
klamath
03-19-2017, 07:32 PM
https://www.infowars.com/nsa-documents-prove-surveillance-on-donald-trump-and-alex-jones/ I don't listen to stuff sprewed for AJ's butthole.
donnay
03-19-2017, 07:36 PM
I don't listen to stuff sprewed for AJ's butthole.
LOL! You sound like a 3rd grader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeDJRiApaSk
donnay
03-19-2017, 08:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeDJRiApaSk
I would love to see that.
Too bad Alec's talk show bombed, he should have taken some lessons on how to host a good talk show or stick to soap operas because his comedy career sucks.
enhanced_deficit
03-19-2017, 10:05 PM
Trump should get a Nobel Prize in Media Management.
Un-related
Obama: Nobody is Listening To Your Calls (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?416968-Obama-Nobody-is-Listening-To-Your-Calls&)
Mordan
03-20-2017, 03:12 AM
I don't listen to stuff sprewed for AJ's butthole.
Ironic when you keep quoting WaPo and CNN....
Zippyjuan
03-20-2017, 11:35 AM
At the Congressional hearings today both the FBI and Justice Department said they have no evidence that Obama or anybody else wiretapped Trump.
TheCount
03-20-2017, 11:37 AM
At the Congressional hearings today both the FBI and Justice Department said they have no evidence that Obama or anybody else wiretapped Trump.Oh thank God. What the Trumpkins have been waiting on is facts. Now they'll be convinced for sure.
Ender
03-20-2017, 11:47 AM
LOL! You sound like a 3rd grader.
Everybody said this kinda stuff until AJ backed Trump; then suddenly he was god-Emperor of news. ;)
Mordan
03-20-2017, 12:30 PM
"Can a reporter have information that the head of the FBI does not?!" Gowdy to Comey.
Go back to Mordor paid shills!!! the light will shine!
bunklocoempire
03-20-2017, 12:56 PM
A thing of beauty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWuZENXs0k
Drops Mic.
Mic drop? A thing of beauty? :rolleyes:
L7 is more like it.
Someone wake me up when Trump talks about MY fourth amendment.
He won't. The businessman extraordinaire can't seem to figure out how to make money for Goldman Sachs/CIA by protecting my rights.
T-rump can't relate to me, a fellow American with rights, just another ruler from another country, therefore promoting this person vs person, party vs party, politician vs politician crap.
Screw that noise.
unknown
03-20-2017, 06:17 PM
EASY HUH!?
Not necessarily easy but a POTUS can work towards dismantling the surveillance state, if they believe that it should be dismantled.
enhanced_deficit
03-20-2017, 09:54 PM
And they intend it to be. How else will american youngsters forever be the military of the bankers?
http://new1.fjcdn.com/pictures/Politics_5568b5_5447876.jpg
If this is confirmed... neocons, ISIL Founders, DGPbags etc are politically finished.
enhanced_deficit
03-20-2017, 10:07 PM
A thing of beauty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWuZENXs0k
Drops Mic.
This may be a thing of beauty and granted Trump can be quite a skilledperformer in front of cameras.
But to give credit where due, drop mic scene is DGP's specialty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC1NGWM8gP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC1NGWM8gP8
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