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angelatc
03-17-2017, 01:17 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sean-hannity-once-pointed-a-gun-at-juan-williams-report/ar-BBydFiM?OCID=ansmsnnews11


Hannity allegedly turned on the weapon's laser sight, causing a red dot to appear on Williams' body, according to the network, which said it confirmed the October incident between Hannity and Williams, who is also a contributor to The Hill, with three sources.

The sources told the outlet that the off-camera incident disturbed Williams and others present, though Hannity was merely showing off, according to the report

But he whined about snowballs?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL864vbZTdY

Anti Federalist
03-17-2017, 01:40 PM
LOL, I know, right?

FWIW though, Hannity and Williams are both claiming "fake news" on this story.

Very Fake News: Juan Williams Slams CNN Report Claiming Sean Hannity ‘Pulled Gun’ on Him After ‘Argument’

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/03/16/very-fake-news-juan-williams-slams-cnn-report-hannity-pulled-gun-on-him-after-argument/

The fake news establishment media at CNN is at it again. Now they are attacking Fox News host Sean Hannity, smearing his reputation with a phony story about him allegedly pointing a gun at liberal Fox News contributor Juan Williams.

Dylan Byers, one of the media writers at CNN who works for media industry defender Brian Stelter, printed a story on Thursday alleging: “Last year, after ending one of his many spirited on-air arguments with liberal contributor Juan Williams, Hannity pulled out a gun and pointed it directly at Williams.” Byers cited “three sources with knowledge of the incident” to make the claim.

“He even turned on the laser sight, causing a red dot to bob around on Williams’ body,” Byers wrote, adding in parentheses: “Hannity was just showing off, the sources said, but the unforeseen off-camera antic clearly disturbed Williams and others on set.”

Byers added in the next paragraph that the alleged incident was investigated, and it was determined nothing bad happened.

“For the record: Hannity’s colleagues brought the Williams incident to the attention of Fox News executives, though it’s not clear whether anything came of it,” Byers wrote. “The sources said it went to Bill Shine, the network’s co-president and longtime Fox News executive, who is Hannity’s longtime friend and a former producer. A Fox News spokesperson said the incident was referred to the legal and human resources departments.”

Byers buried deep in the story the actual quotes from Fox News itself, and Hannity and Williams themselves. All of them say are saying the incident is being way overblown by CNN, which is one of Fox’s competitors, is lagging behind Fox in the ratings, and is constantly under fire for printing fake news stories like this one.
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“Sean Hannity has been trained in firearm safety since he was 11 years old and has a license to carry a gun in five states, including New York,” Fox News said in its statement. “The situation was thoroughly investigated and it was found that no one was put in any danger.”

Hannity himself says that CNN’s interpretation of events is “outright false reporting.”

“While discussing the issue of firearms, I showed my good friend Juan Williams my unloaded firearm in a professional and safe manner for educational purposes only,” Hannity said. “Every precautionary procedure that I have been trained in since the age of 11 was followed. I’ve had a conceal carry permit in five states for all of my adult life. Any other interpretation of this is outright false reporting.”

The kicker is Williams himself says the whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.

“This incident is being sensationalized — everything was under total control throughout and I never felt like I was put in harm’s way,” Williams said, according to the CNN report. “It was clear that Sean put my safety and security above all else and we continue to be great friends.”

Williams even took to Twitter to defend Hannity:

(1/2) This incident is being sensationalized – everything was under total control throughout and I never felt like I was put in harm’s way.

— Juan Williams (@TheJuanWilliams) March 17, 2017

(2/2) It was clear that Sean put my safety and security above all else and we continue to be great friends.

— Juan Williams (@TheJuanWilliams) March 17, 2017

In response to Williams’ Tweets, Hannity called the CNN hit piece “fake news lies.”

@CNN fake news lies. Juan is one of my best friends. Love u my friend. https://t.co/ZqXsRXWHDw

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

@CNN is as hysterical and insane as Rachael Maddow. https://t.co/ZqXsRXWHDw

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

If Williams really had a problem with Hannity, and really did not feel safe, would he have said that? Probably not. In addition, Byers continued in his story by alleging that Hannity’s recent studies of Mixed Martial Arts — something the Fox News host and nationally syndicated radio host has been doing in his spare time — means he is “spoiling for a fight.”

“Off camera, he has become an avid student of Mixed Martial Arts,” Byers wrote. “He has a brown belt in Karate. He even has a personal sensei (martial arts teacher) who travels with him. Last year, Hannity and his sensei paid a visit to UFC champion Chuck Liddell to learn some new techniques. The visit was featured as a segment on Hannity’s show, which provides some insight into his passion for the hobby.”

But Hannity debunked Byers’ bogus Karate claim in another Tweet:

Oh and by the way. I never did "Karate"
In my life. Another lie https://t.co/eztXMHCHQE

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

Excuse me. I NEVER DID https://t.co/MBTvHQsrEX

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

So, naturally, according to CNN — the network President Donald Trump has called “very fake news” — learning self defense and properly and safely handling a firearm in a way that makes nobody feel unsafe is now somehow a bad thing.

Even though both of the subjects of his story — Hannity and Williams — have challenged the report, Byers is publicly standing by his report.

I stand by my reporting, Juan. Every word. 110%. https://t.co/vvYMdWCs4E https://t.co/Um7dZfIqnq

— Dylan Byers (@DylanByers) March 17, 2017

I stand by my reporting, Sean. https://t.co/co72KuLxtx

— Dylan Byers (@DylanByers) March 17, 2017

Hannity mocked Byers for standing by the fake news report.

Fake news hack. Of course u do. Lol. It's not true. Unless u r calling me and Juan liars. Shocking from "White Lash" network. https://t.co/1ueCKtPirX

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

And he noted that he has “years” of tapes of him discussing gun safety on television.

@CNN I have YEARS OF TAPE talking about gun safety. Years. https://t.co/f7MLVNTpy8

— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) March 17, 2017

It’s all too interesting that this latest hit from CNN comes as Hannity makes headway in exposing the media establishment that Stelter and Byers regularly defend. On Wednesday night on his Fox News program, Hannity detailed how NBC News is on a “corporate jihad against President Donald Trump.”

Anti Federalist
03-17-2017, 01:43 PM
Now, with all that said, and I am sure some special snowflakes melted down at the very sight of a, gasp, gun, I still stand by what I said years ago.

We should have thrown snowballs with rocks in them.

If it wasn't for the antics of the government media complex, we'd be coming off eight years of President Paul right now.

donnay
03-17-2017, 01:46 PM
Fake news.

Even Juan Williams said it was simply untrue.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/17/05/3E5A28AA00000578-4322298-image-m-4_1489729177953.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/17/05/3E5A287600000578-4322298-image-m-7_1489729338895.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/03/17/05/3E5A287C00000578-4322298-image-m-8_1489729354175.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4322298/Sean-Hannity-pulled-GUN-Juan-Williams.html

Very Fake News: Juan Williams Slams CNN Report Claiming Sean Hannity ‘Pulled Gun’ on Him After ‘Argument’
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/03/16/very-fake-news-juan-williams-slams-cnn-report-hannity-pulled-gun-on-him-after-argument/

phill4paul
03-17-2017, 01:46 PM
Now, with all that said, and I am sure some special snowflakes melted down at the very sight of a, gasp, gun, I still stand by what I said years ago.

We should have thrown snowballs with rocks in them.

If it wasn't for the antics of the government media complex, we'd be coming off eight years of President Paul right now.

Most excellent follow-up. Lol.

enhanced_deficit
03-17-2017, 04:21 PM
Is it confirmed either way?

He has been making contradictory statements .

Irony: Juan Williams , who was called bigot by libs, attacks Trump (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508718-Irony-Juan-Williams-who-was-called-bigot-by-libs-attacks-Trump&)

UWDude
03-17-2017, 10:38 PM
Even more irony:

Williams tweeted to the author of the story, said it wasn't true, and the writer of the story said he was sticking to his story.

Ha ha.

Superfluous Man
03-17-2017, 11:01 PM
“Sean Hannity has been trained in firearm safety since he was 11 years old and has a license to carry a gun in five states, including New York,” Fox News said in its statement. “The situation was thoroughly investigated and it was found that no one was put in any danger.”

Hannity himself says that CNN’s interpretation of events is “outright false reporting.”

“While discussing the issue of firearms, I showed my good friend Juan Williams my unloaded firearm in a professional and safe manner for educational purposes only,” Hannity said. “Every precautionary procedure that I have been trained in since the age of 11 was followed. I’ve had a conceal carry permit in five states for all of my adult life. Any other interpretation of this is outright false reporting.”

The kicker is Williams himself says the whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.

Not one of these deny the claims that CNN made. Hannity himself can't even bring himself to say their claims about the facts of what happened are false, he has to slip and slide around and say their interpretation is false reporting, whatever that means.

The number one rule of gun safety is, "Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction."
https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

Hannity can brag all he wants about his training. But he can't claim that pointing his gun at Juan Williams, even if he thought it was unloaded, was following the basic rules of gun safety that he supposedly knows.

Superfluous Man
03-17-2017, 11:02 PM
Williams tweeted to the author of the story, said it wasn't true

Source?

None of the tweets or quotes from him in this thread say that.

AngryCanadian
03-17-2017, 11:03 PM
If anyone believes then i also now believe that Saddam hide his WMDs in Syria lol

Superfluous Man
03-17-2017, 11:05 PM
If anyone believes then i also now believe that Saddam hide his WMDs in Syria lol

Since Hannity and Juan don't deny it, why would anyone not believe it?

UWDude
03-17-2017, 11:05 PM
Source?

None of the tweets or quotes from him in this thread say that.

Ill get it to you later.

Superfluous Man
03-17-2017, 11:06 PM
Ill get it to you later.

I won't hold my breath.

UWDude
03-17-2017, 11:10 PM
I won't hold my breath.


Jesus christ, I read the tweet earlier today. I dont feel like hunting it down just to satisfy you.
Believe whatever you want, I don;t care.

For those who do, I assure you, the author responded to one of williams tweets and said he stands by his story,.

AngryCanadian
03-17-2017, 11:25 PM
Jesus christ, I read the tweet earlier today. I dont feel like hunting it down just to satisfy you.
Believe whatever you want, I don;t care.

For those who do, I assure you, the author responded to one of williams tweets and said he stands by his story,.

Noticed how evil CNN is now? first they were targeting Trump for not releasing his taxes and the ridicules claims of Russia Ties. Now there some in MSM outlets targeting none liberal journalists.

UWDude
03-18-2017, 12:32 AM
https://twitter.com/TheJuanWilliams/status/842550374720528384

(1/2) This incident is being sensationalized – everything was under total control throughout and I never felt like I was put in harm’s way.

https://twitter.com/DylanByers/status/842552427949707264

I stand by my reporting, Juan. Every word. 110%.



CNN Reporter tells victim he is wrong about what happened, because the CNN reporter's sources told him differently.

CNN: VERY fake news.

Anti Federalist
03-18-2017, 01:07 AM
Not one of these deny the claims that CNN made. Hannity himself can't even bring himself to say their claims about the facts of what happened are false, he has to slip and slide around and say their interpretation is false reporting, whatever that means.

The number one rule of gun safety is, "Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction."
https://gunsafetyrules.nra.org/

Hannity can brag all he wants about his training. But he can't claim that pointing his gun at Juan Williams, even if he thought it was unloaded, was following the basic rules of gun safety that he supposedly knows.


“He even turned on the laser sight, causing a red dot to bob around on Williams’ body,” Byers wrote, adding in parentheses: “Hannity was just showing off, the sources said, but the unforeseen off-camera antic clearly disturbed Williams and others on set.”

Williams has stated that he was not upset or "disturbed".

Shamity stated he never pointed anything at anyone.

That said, yes I agree, you never point at anything you are not prepared to shoot.

The time and place to demonstrate the laser function, which is what it sounds like what was going on, is at the range or at the very least in private, and not surrounded by a bunch of vaporous cube dwellers.

Brian4Liberty
03-18-2017, 11:30 AM
Not defending Hannity at all, but it's obvious that this is nothing but a hysterical leftist smear job. The left have lost their collective mind. They want to personally destroy, if not outright kill, anyone who disagrees with them on any issue.

angelatc
03-18-2017, 11:38 AM
Not defending Hannity at all, but it's obvious that this is nothing but a hysterical leftist smear job. The left have lost their collective mind. They want to personally destroy, if not outright kill, anyone who disagrees with them on any issue.

They always have.

Anti Federalist
03-18-2017, 03:36 PM
They always have.

You've been right all along on this.

I thought maybe common ground could be reached.

Mea culpa...these people are stark raving mad.

UWDude
03-19-2017, 01:31 AM
Source?

None of the tweets or quotes from him in this thread say that.

Ha ha. I just realized you asked for source when anti-federalist had posted it IN POST #2

anaconda
03-19-2017, 02:00 AM
Hannity and Williams can both screw themselves and rot in Hell.

jmdrake
03-19-2017, 07:47 AM
Williams has stated that he was not upset or "disturbed".

Shamity stated he never pointed anything at anyone.

That said, yes I agree, you never point at anything you are not prepared to shoot.

The time and place to demonstrate the laser function, which is what it sounds like what was going on, is at the range or at the very least in private, and not surrounded by a bunch of vaporous cube dwellers.

Note that Juan Williams NEVER said that Hannity didn't point the gun at him! So we have to take Hannity's word on that. And you trust him because....? Remember when Dick Cheney "accidentally" shot someone while hunting? That person acted like it was "no big deal" too. Was it out of candor or was it out of fear?

It's hard for me to figure out what happened from what's been posted in this thread. Okay, Hannity had a gun on set. Somebody at gun happy Fox News got upset by what happened. Maybe it was a detachable laser and Hannity put the red dot on Juan but the gun was never pointed at Juan? That's the only explanation that makes sense and doesn't make anyone a liar. Also not dangerous but still very stupid.

jmdrake
03-19-2017, 07:50 AM
You've been right all along on this.

I thought maybe common ground could be reached.

Mea culpa...these people are stark raving mad.

Dennis Kucinich has lately been defending Donald Trump on the whole wiretapping fiasco. Common ground has already been reached. Some on the right are just as stark raving mad as some on the left. (i.e. John "Maverick" McCain claiming Rand Paul is an agent of Putin.)

UWDude
03-19-2017, 10:06 AM
Note that Juan Williams NEVER said that Hannity didn't point the gun at him! So we have to take Hannity's word on that. And you trust him because....? Remember when Dick Cheney "accidentally" shot someone while hunting? That person acted like it was "no big deal" too. Was it out of candor or was it out of fear?

It's hard for me to figure out what happened from what's been posted in this thread. Okay, Hannity had a gun on set. Somebody at gun happy Fox News got upset by what happened. Maybe it was a detachable laser and Hannity put the red dot on Juan but the gun was never pointed at Juan? That's the only explanation that makes sense and doesn't make anyone a liar. Also not dangerous but still very stupid.

The story says Juan was clearly shaken and disturbed, Juan says everythign was professional and calm. The story paints hannity as someone angry about an argument and pointing a gun at juan to intimidate him, when clearly, Sean was just showing off his gun.

The story is classic CNN. Classic fake news.