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CPUd
03-16-2017, 02:40 PM
Why Trump's Budget Blueprint Loses Libertarians

Defense and Homeland Security hikes make up for cuts in discretionary spending. Does the government always need to spend $4 trillion?
Nick Gillespie|Mar. 16, 2017 10:45 am

President Donald Trump has released what was being touted as a "skinny" budget, meaning that it would put federal spending on a diet. Would that that were true. The blueprint, which doesn't engage with entitlements such as Medicare and Social Security and other forms of "mandatory" spending at all, simply balances cuts to various parts of the government with increases to the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security. In fiscal 2017, the government plans to spend around $1.1 trillion in discretionary spending (this is spending that is voted on every year; the rest of the federal budget is essentially on autopilot). Under Trump's plan, it will spend that much again in 2018. Overall federal spending will still come in around $4 trillion.

Let's call this what it is: Unacceptable.

Federal spending remains at historically high levels both in absolute terms and as a percentage of GDP. Since 2008, outlays have been higher than 20 percent of GDP, well above the post-war average and most of the 1990s. While revenues have soared to record levels in absolute dollars, they come nowhere close to matching outlays, the result being continuing deficits and growing national debt, which is already greater than annual GDP. Because of the automatic spending increases built into "mandatory" programs such as Medicare and Social Security, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects growing debt over the next decade. Given the well-established correlation between persistent, high levels of national debt and reduced economic growth—"debt overhangs"—this is not simply bad news but ruinous. Left-wing economists affiliated with the University of Massachusetts found "the average real GDP growth rate for countries carrying a public-debt-to-GDP ratio of over 90 percent is...2.2 percent." That's the same sluggish growth found by more market-friendly economists Carmen Reinhart, Kenneth Rogoff, and Vincent Reinhart: "On average, debt levels above 90 percent are associated with growth that is 1.2 percent lower than in other periods (2.3 percent versus 3.5 percent)." Indeed, in 20 out of 26 debt-overhang cases studied by Reinhart, Rogoff, and Reinhart, the period of reduced growth lasted a quarter-century, substantially reducing GDP and living standards (see chart to right).

As it stands, CBO is already projecting historically low rates of economic growth over the coming decade. Earlier this year, CBO said it expects the economy to grow by just 1.8 percent annually through 2027, well behind post-war rates of 3 percent or higher. And that already meager growth comes after eight years of just 1.4 percent on average per year. In a conversation with Matt Welch and me at the 2016 International Students for Liberty Conference, George Will observed that the difference between 2 percent annual growth and 3 percent annual growth is the difference between a positive, forward-looking country in which politics recede from everyday life and a Hobbesian nightmare in which interest groups slug it out over a barely growing pie. Note that he was talking about 2 percent annual growth, which seems positively aspirational in the 21st century.

That's not to say that Trump's budget blueprint, which he has already signaled is merely the start of negotiations with Congress, doesn't have some positives. Indeed, it's bracing and good to see a plan that takes a hacksaw if not a chainsaw to various federal departments (even as I suspect most cuts will be bargained away in order to secure the hikes he wants). Here's Table 2 of his plan, which summarizes how departments and agencies would be affected:

http://i.imgur.com/lGxWSGP.jpg

In percentage terms, there are double-digit cuts to cabinet departments such as Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Interior, and Transportation. The EPA takes it on the chin, facing a 31.4 percent budget cut. The howls of indignation from supporters of the status quo are already sounding around the internet and cable news programs, but there's every reason to believe that such savings can be accomplished with little to no impact on public safety or essential government functions. Another way of saying this is that government is a lagging indicator in American society and just as every business, household, and individual has spent the last decade-plus becoming more efficient, productive, and economical, now it's the feds' turn.


The fact of the matter is that while discretionary government spending has been relatively flat over the past several years, there were major, across-the-board increases pushed through during the Bush years and the early Obama years. As Mercatus Center economist and Reason columnist Veronique de Rugy has documented, spending ballooned by 53 percent in real terms under George W. Bush and has never gone down to anything like pre-9/11 totals. And we need to underscore that, on balance, Trump spends exactly as much as last year's discretionary budget. This is where he loses any credibility with libertarians. There is no reason to think that the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security could not function with the same sort of double-digit cuts the president levies on other departments and agencies. If Trump were truly a foe of the administrative state in any sort of principled way, I'd expect him to be abolishing Homeland Security, a widely criticized agglomeration of power that has few supporters outside of those drawing food from its trough. "The President's 2018 budget ends the arbitrary depletion of our strength and security, and begins to rebuild the U.S. Armed Forces," reads the blueprint. It's good, I suppose, that the White House recognizes that all the wars of the past 15 years were in some way "arbitrary," but the way to stop depleting our military is to stop sending it all over the globe in fruitless endeavors that have turned Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places into danger zones. In the same breath, Trump's document brags that the $52 billion increase he seeks above current levels of defense spending "exceeds the entire defense budgets of most countries." Do we really need it then? Worse still: De Rugy and Harvard economist Robert Barro found that "a dollar increase in federal defense spending results in a less-than-a-dollar increase in GDP when the spending increase is deficit financed." If government spending is rarely stimulative under the best of circumstances, the sort of defense hike Trump is pushing actually shrinks an already wizened economy.


To this point, we've only been talking about discretionary spending, which accounts for only about one-third of the federal budget. The rest covers mandatory spending on Medicare, Social Security, and other entitlements along with interest on the debt. If Willie Sutton robbed banks because that's where the money was, any plan to seriously reduce government spending and debt service and thus hack away at the administrative state must confront entitlements. Trump has been unambiguous in saying that he doesn't want to touch Social Security or Medicare/Medicaid, which are already the two biggest-ticket items in the federal budget and will only grow over the coming years due to the aging of the baby boom generation.

http://i.imgur.com/gO8aSNK.jpg


To date, all of the baby boom presidents—Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama—punted on serious entitlement reform, stoking instead generational warfare between relatively young and poor Millennials and relatively old and wealthy boomers. Trump, who may well be the last boomer president (here's hoping), shows every indication of putting his cohort's interests before those of his children and grandchildren. Although basic budgetary realities will sink old-age entitlements sometime around 2030 and inflict 25 percent or more cuts in benefits, the Democrats and Republicans writ large have refused to seriously address the iceberg on the horizon.

Many of Donald Trump's supporters evinced an interest in "burning it down," in razing Washington figuratively as the British did during the War of 1812. In his first budget blueprint, their champion has not only failed to do that, he hasn't even really thrown a good first punch. Despite offering significant reductions to parts of the federal budget, he hasn't even submitted a plan that would reduce overall outlays after a decades-long spending spree that has purchased little but debt, deficits, and economic malaise.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/03/16/trumps-budget-blueprint-is-decadent-and

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 02:46 PM
Without even reading I'll give it a one sentence shot....

Trump's budget does nothing to stop the fiscal hemorrhaging that has driven this country into a $20 trillion debt.

dude58677
03-16-2017, 03:33 PM
I'm happy with cuts to the UN.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 03:34 PM
I'm happy with cuts to the UN.

Will those cuts be used to pay down the debt?

AuH20
03-16-2017, 03:35 PM
It's a start and far more aggressive than Reagan's failures.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 03:40 PM
It's a start and far more aggressive than Reagan's failures.

It does nothing to decrease spending or pay down the debt. It just rearranges the chairs on the Titanic.

dude58677
03-16-2017, 03:42 PM
It does nothing to decrease spending or pay down the debt. It just rearranges the chairs on the Titanic.

I know but I still despise the UN.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 03:48 PM
I know but I still despise the UN.

Agreed. He should have axed the whole damn thing.

dannno
03-16-2017, 03:52 PM
Without even reading I'll give it a one sentence shot....

Trump's budget does nothing to stop the fiscal hemorrhaging that has driven this country into a $20 trillion debt.

That's not completely true. He is effectively reducing spending by the 6-8% that the government usually increases spending annually. So we are already far better off than the status quo.

He is putting a substantial part of the government on a very strict diet. He is boosting military spending. Military spending is dependent on military engagements. If Trump reduces our need for military engagements in the future, then much of this spending may only be temporary, hopefully in a year or two we could actually consider reducing the debt.

CPUd
03-16-2017, 03:53 PM
Paying down the debt I think is phase 3

dude58677
03-16-2017, 04:01 PM
Agreed. He should have axed the whole damn thing.

There is always room for improvement but it is a yuuuuge step in the right direction.

juleswin
03-16-2017, 04:04 PM
Will those cuts be used to pay down the debt?

The journey of a thousand miles starts with 1 step. The budget in real numbers have been increasing with every president since God knows who. It is a win for fiscal conservatives if he is able to freeze this yearly increase without even factoring inflation. Personally, I would prefer the foreign stuff be cut first before touching domestic spending but I can live with overall spending going down.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 04:07 PM
The journey of a thousand miles starts with 1 step. The budget in real numbers have been increasing with every president since God knows who. It is a win for fiscal conservatives if he is able to freeze this yearly increase without even factoring inflation. Personally, I would prefer the foreign stuff be cut first before touching domestic spending but I can live with overall spending going down.

We'll be bankrupt, broken and bloodied before we reach the first 100 miles at this pace.

dude58677
03-16-2017, 04:18 PM
We'll be bankrupt, broken and bloodied before we reach the first 100 miles at this pace.

It's a step in the right direction and maybe we get lucky with a shutdown.

silverhandorder
03-16-2017, 04:22 PM
Libertarians love Trump. Reason needs to get in lockstep.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 04:34 PM
Libertarians love Trump. Reason needs to get in lockstep.

Lol. You're so full of shit.

silverhandorder
03-16-2017, 06:09 PM
Lol. You're so full of $#@!.
Lewrockwell, me, Stefan Moleneux, antiwar.com, all the libertarians who are not cucked. Gg. Wait wait Rand Paul.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 06:15 PM
Lewrockwell, me, Stefan Moleneux, antiwar.com, all the libertarians who are not cucked. Gg. Wait wait Rand Paul.

anti-war.com supports a uuuuge military increase. Ll. Lolol. Just shows the cognitive dissonance in your liberty circle.

silverhandorder
03-16-2017, 06:35 PM
Keep getting bogged down in minutia. Nothing you want or I want will come to pass. Either get out of politics and stop talking or get behind the god emperor.

phill4paul
03-16-2017, 06:43 PM
Keep getting bogged down in minutia. Nothing you want or I want will come to pass. Either get out of politics and stop talking or get behind the god emperor.

Does my refusal to acquiesce to your demands make you feel impotent? Because it should.

silverhandorder
03-16-2017, 06:54 PM
Does my refusal to acquiesce to your demands make you feel impotent? Because it should.

Not as important as you sound above.

Anti Federalist
03-16-2017, 06:57 PM
In percentage terms, there are double-digit cuts to cabinet departments such as Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Interior, and Transportation. The EPA takes it on the chin, facing a 31.4 percent budget cut. The howls of indignation from supporters of the status quo are already sounding around the internet and cable news programs, but there's every reason to believe that such savings can be accomplished with little to no impact on public safety or essential government functions. Another way of saying this is that government is a lagging indicator in American society and just as every business, household, and individual has spent the last decade-plus becoming more efficient, productive, and economical, now it's the feds' turn.

That does not sound very libertarian.

juleswin
03-16-2017, 06:58 PM
Does my refusal to acquiesce to your demands make you feel impotent? Because it should.

god the emperor line should have tipped you off that he is trolling you. Even Milo the perv troll had the common sense to only call Trump "Daddy".

AuH20
03-16-2017, 06:59 PM
That does not sound very libertarian.

Nice find. What frauds.

axiomata
03-16-2017, 08:31 PM
That does not sound very libertarian.

Why not? He's saying the proposed cuts can be made without harming public safety.