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enhanced_deficit
03-14-2017, 01:37 PM
Do you agree with Kucinich that current refugee crisis is result of Obama's wars?

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Kucinich: I Was Wiretapped As A Congressman, Obama's wars created these refugees (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508560-Kucinich-I-Was-Wiretapped-As-A-Congressman-Obama-s-wars-created-these-refugees&)

PierzStyx
03-14-2017, 01:41 PM
Obama's wars and those before him.

Zippyjuan
03-14-2017, 01:56 PM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.

Athan
03-14-2017, 02:31 PM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.

Guess you didn't hear about the Qatar pipeline plans.

Zippyjuan
03-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Guess you didn't hear about the Qatar pipeline plans.

Lots of refugees from Qatar?

Dark_Horse_Rider
03-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Or the how the US/NATO has been collapsing countries around the world for geopolitical control, oh that and some natural resources too.

Like the oil that was " liberated " from Libya and then brokered by Qatar, and who else was involved with that ?

UWDude
03-14-2017, 08:37 PM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.


The war russia wasn't even involved in for 4 years.

Athan
03-14-2017, 10:16 PM
Lots of refugees from Qatar?

As I suspected, I guess you haven't.

The entire reason for Clinton causing havok in Syria and the plans to overthrow Assad was because Assad refused to go along with the planned pipeline.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/QatarTurkeyGasLine_01.png

fr33
03-14-2017, 10:44 PM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.

Correction: Most current refugees are from the USA's and Russia's proxy war in Syria.

Nevermind the US support for the FSA and their "allies".

You are nitpicking. If Obama had his way, US boots (besides special forces) would have been on the ground and if that happened Russia most likely would have pulled out. Trump has now sent the marines in to fight ISIS after Obama and Kerry's mission failed.

The refugee stream is also from Iraq which leads the blame train to Bush and Obama. Hopefully the refugee crisis will help inform a few more people in this country about how retarded these wars are and how we should not be involved in destabilizing the Middle-East or feeling obligated to absorb their citizenry. Europe has been suffering the "war on terror" for a long time by absorbing Pakistanis displaced by the US's stupid war.

Ender
03-14-2017, 11:58 PM
Correction: Most current refugees are from the USA's and Russia's proxy war in Syria.

Nevermind the US support for the FSA and their "allies".

You are nitpicking. If Obama had his way, US boots (besides special forces) would have been on the ground and if that happened Russia most likely would have pulled out. Trump has now sent the marines in to fight ISIS after Obama and Kerry's mission failed.

The refugee stream is also from Iraq which leads the blame train to Bush and Obama. Hopefully the refugee crisis will help inform a few more people in this country about how retarded these wars are and how we should not be involved in destabilizing the Middle-East or feeling obligated to absorb their citizenry. Europe has been suffering the "war on terror" for a long time by absorbing Pakistanis displaced by the US's stupid war.

Absolutely agree with your last paragraph.

However, Trump isn't fighting ISIS in Syria; ISIS is fading from Syria. According to the Ron Paul Liberty Report, he has troops on the ground to support 2 different factions fighting each other- we are funding both- PLUS making way for ye old pipeline.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508448-Race-For-Raqqa-Major-US-Escalation-In-Syria

juleswin
03-15-2017, 12:51 AM
This reminds me of the time Rand blamed the creation of ISIS on the Bush administration. Silly way of pandering to the opposition by wrongly bashing your own side. The problem with. I personally going to try and stop blaming these sort of things on the president. The deep state aka that part of the govt that ensures that neocon policies are implemented regardless of the people in power are to blame. The presidents are well vetted puppets for their agenda.

To anyone who bales Russia for the refugees crisis, I say "fu*k you and your fu*king mama". Russia essentially prevented a refugees exodus that would have occurred had the rebels reached Damascus and Beirut. The idea that Russia is in any way to blame for this crisis is insane. They are trying to prevent another Libya debacle which destabilized the region.

juleswin
03-15-2017, 12:52 AM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.

Posts like this is one reasons why people don't like you. You must know on some level that what you are saying is a lie and yet you post it anyway.

juleswin
03-15-2017, 01:12 AM
Correction: Most current refugees are from the USA's and Russia's proxy war in Syria.

Nevermind the US support for the FSA and their "allies".

You are nitpicking. If Obama had his way, US boots (besides special forces) would have been on the ground and if that happened Russia most likely would have pulled out. Trump has now sent the marines in to fight ISIS after Obama and Kerry's mission failed.

The refugee stream is also from Iraq which leads the blame train to Bush and Obama. Hopefully the refugee crisis will help inform a few more people in this country about how retarded these wars are and how we should not be involved in destabilizing the Middle-East or feeling obligated to absorb their citizenry. Europe has been suffering the "war on terror" for a long time by absorbing Pakistanis displaced by the US's stupid war.

The bolded part is actually not true. The Pakistanis in England(the EU country where they have the highest population) did not come as refugees, they are mostly regular immigrants who went there because of the colonial ties between England and India. They have been coming to England since the 60s. You see the same number of Indians in England and the US has no war going there. Fortunately, the Pakistanis in England cannot be blamed on US wars.

enhanced_deficit
03-15-2017, 11:26 PM
Most current refugees are from Putin's war in Syria.

Where do you stand on Obama's wars?

Also, do you agree charity begins at home?