Judge Napolitano: Obama used Brit Spy agency for end around to spy on Trump

[UWDude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cAZCI7TUyA&feature=youtu.be&t=751

Video starts with background, and then statement by Judge Napolitano.

Democrats told the big russia lie, and then, without proof, started poking around for it, still found nothing.
This is a comical imploding of them, as their hasty antics are getting called out. They keep forgetting they don't have the power to cover up their crimes any more.

Anyways, it was already exposed the US and GCHQ exchanged collected information, to get around laws against spying on their own citizens.

There is still a tone of hypothetical from the Judge. "According to the sources" "Could have"
He also contends Obama would not have used the FISA court to spy on Trump.

[randomname]

quote:


I'm not sure the DOJ has what they requested. Because sources in the intelligence community have told Fox, if Trump were surveilled it was done by a foreign intelligence entity. The British GCHQ. [...] This is what the sources have told Fox. They have access to all the data from the NSA database, and would have access and translate raw data to transcripts and share it with someone in the west-wing. Probably not Obama himself, because he wouldn't want anyone to say that "I saw Obama meet with a British spy in the white house".

[Created4]

Fox News Judicial Analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano claimed “three intelligence sources” say President Obama looked to British spy agency GCHQ to obtain transcripts of conversations involving President Donald Trump on “Fox & Friends” on Tuesday.

Napolitano said, “[T]hree intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command. He didn’t use the NSA. He didn’t use the CIA. He didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use Department of Justice. He used GCHQ. What the heck is GCHQ? That’s the initials for the British spying agency. They have 24/7 access to the NSA database. So by simply having two people go to them saying, ‘President Obama needs transcripts of conversations involving candidate Trump, conversations involving president-elect Trump,’ he’s able to get it, and there’s no American fingerprints on this.”

Source: Breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/03/14/judge-napolitano-three-intel-sources-say-obama-looked-to-brit-agency-to-spy-on-trump/)

[CPUd]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508591-Judge-Napolitano-Obama-used-Brit-Spy-agency-for-end-aroudn-to-spy-on-Trump

[enhanced_deficit]

So anti-war US Congressman Kucinich was handeled by Brits and not Obama?

Kucinich: I Was Wiretapped As A Congressman, Obama's wars created these refugees (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508560-Kucinich-I-Was-Wiretapped-As-A-Congressman-Obama-s-wars-created-these-refugees&)

[jllundqu]

This is pretty interesting stuff... but unless and until actual proof of ANYTHING is forthcoming.... it's all just a circlejerk and political posturing.

[Athan]

At a certain point, it starts to become clear they need to arrest him.

[UWDude]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508591-Judge-Napolitano-Obama-used-Brit-Spy-agency-for-end-aroudn-to-spy-on-Trump

LoL
circle jerking

[TheCount]

At a certain point, it starts to become clear they need to arrest him.That requires evidence.

[Zippyjuan]

quote:


I'm not sure the DOJ has what they requested. Because sources in the intelligence community have told Fox, if Trump were surveilled it was done by a foreign intelligence entity. The British GCHQ. [...] This is what the sources have told Fox. They have access to all the data from the NSA database, and would have access and translate raw data to transcripts and share it with someone in the west-wing. Probably not Obama himself, because he wouldn't want anyone to say that "I saw Obama meet with a British spy in the white house".

So they don't know IF it was done but they somehow know HOW it was done.

[Athan]

That requires evidence.

I agree. If there IS evidence they are using foreign spying agencies to circumvent 4th amendment protections and due process though, they need to do more than just a few years in the slammer.

[dannno]

lol, it's really easy to spot who the disinfos on this site are.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

lol, it's really easy to spot who the disinfos on this site are.


Yep; basically the same template. Give an academic answer without committing, or discuss the consequences of more freedom but never, ever take a position on these issues. Only a handful of posters do that. Same technique using the exact same playbook.

[TheCount]

I agree. If there IS evidence they are using foreign spying agencies to circumvent 4th amendment protections and due process though, they need to do more than just a few years in the slammer.Agreed. That's the thing though: This would be such a slam-dunk if it were true that I find it impossible to believe that anyone would withhold the evidence if such evidence exists.

[Restore America Now]

What the hell is he doing? We're a long way from the Freedom Watch days... :(

[UWDude]

Agreed. That's the thing though: This would be such a slam-dunk if it were true that I find it impossible to believe that anyone would withhold the evidence if such evidence exists.

Plausible deniability. There is a lot of stuff done without paper trails. Especially in the CIA. Evidence is going to require states evidence. Luckily for Trump, a lot of people would rather rat out their CIA buds, and go to prison for federal wiretapping offenses, and get out in three years, than go to prison for child trafficking charges, and never live a day of happiness in prison again, as even the hated of the prisoners.

[CPUd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szPjji9l66E

[Contumacious]

This is pretty interesting stuff... but unless and until actual proof of ANYTHING is forthcoming.... it's all just a circlejerk and political posturing.

Exactly


We need GCHQ's Robert Hannigan to appear and accept responsibility for spying on DJT.


Oh, wait Robert Hannigan ABRUPTLY RESIGNED WHEN DJT WAS SWORN TO OFFICE. So don't hold your breath.

Wonder why?

Isn't if a fact that by assigning the case to GCHQ federal agents are given plausible deniability ? Isn't it a fact that by assigning the case to GCHQ federal agents avoided a paper trail?

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[Zippyjuan]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/britain-s-gchq-denies-ridiculous-claim-it-helped-wiretap-trump-n734756


Britain’s GCHQ Denies ‘Ridiculous’ Claim It Helped Wiretap Trump

LONDON — British spy agency GCHQ has issued a rare and angry denial of a "ridiculous" allegation, repeated by White House press secretary Sean Spicer, that it eavesdropped on President Donald Trump during the election campaign.

The signal intelligence agency went public after Spicer quoted a Fox New analyst to support Trump's so-far-unfounded claim that he was wiretapped by President Barack Obama.

A British government official went further, saying Friday that White House had promised not to repeat the claim — further undermining Trump's insistence that he is correct.

In a testy press briefing Thursday, Spicer cited former New Jersey judge Andrew Napolitano, who alleged on Fox News that Obama "went outside the chain of command" and used the British agency so that there were "no American fingerprints" on surveillance of Trump.

Spicer said it was one of many reports that suggest the president's claims "merit looking into."

It brought a swift, highly unusual and furious public response from GCHQ, which is broadly similar to America's NSA and monitors global communications.

"Recent allegations made by media commentator Judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct 'wire tapping' against the then president-elect are nonsense," the agency said in a statement. "They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored."

Prime Minister Theresa May's spokesman told reporters that the UK government had "made clear" to the White House that the GCHQ claims should be ignored and had received assurances in return that they will not be repeated.