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enhanced_deficit
03-12-2017, 11:38 PM
This is surprising news:

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Kucinich: I Was Wiretapped As A Congressman, They Can Certainly Tap A Presidential Candidate

Ian Schwartz
March 10, 2017

Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) spoke to FOX News about how he found out he was being wiretapped and what he did about it since the discovery didn't happen until after he left the U.S. House. Kucinich, calling it a "brave new world," said one should not be surprised if Donald Trump, then a presidential candidate, was wiretapped if a sitting U.S. Congressman was.

"I learned about it two years after I left office," Kucinich said of his experience. "Members of Congress ought to be aware that my experience was that my phone wasn't safe in a Congressional office. Now, if they can do that to a member of Congress, they can certainly do it to a presidential candidate and they can do it to private citizens as well. Hello, America."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/10/kucinich_i_was_wiretapped_as_a_congressman_they_ca n_certainly_tap_a_presidential_candidate.html


Dennis Kucinich: Obama's wars created these refugees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qeiZ90U1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qeiZ90U1A




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enhanced_deficit
03-13-2017, 02:12 PM
320000 dead, 4.9m refugees: Syria's war in numbers (http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2017/03/13/320000-dead-4.9m-refugees-Syrias-war-in-numbers)

Times LIVE-5 hours ago

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says it has recorded the deaths of 321,358 people since the conflict began with anti-government protests in March 2011.
Those killed included 96,000 civilians, of which over 17,000 were children, the monitor said.
In a country with a pre-war population of 23 million, the United Nations estimates that 6.6 million people have been internally displaced by the fighting.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) says 4.7 million people live either in besieged cities or hard-to-access areas.
The war has forced 4.9 million people to flee Syria, according to the UNHCR.
Neighbouring Turkey, the main host country, has taken in more than 2.9 million Syrian refugees.


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oyarde
03-13-2017, 03:01 PM
Maybe Denny would like to disclose the conversation he had with Obummer where he rolled over on the american people to vote for the health care bill and fine his constituents for being poor .

PierzStyx
03-13-2017, 04:25 PM
Can we talk about the fact that THIS is Dennis Kucinich's wife?


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Elizabeth Harper is 40 and Dennis is 70. That is in fact the exact age difference between myself and my mother when I was born.

Crazy.

Valli6
03-13-2017, 06:02 PM
Hmmm. He says this happened in 2011. That was "arab spring" time.
Probably when he was talking to Gadafi? By then, no one in Obama's administration would talk to Gadafi anymore. I think Kucinich was the last American official that stayed in contact with him.

enhanced_deficit
03-13-2017, 09:50 PM
Hmmm. He says this happened in 2011. That was "arab spring" time.
Probably when he was talking to Gadafi? By then, no one in Obama's administration would talk to Gadafi anymore.

Do we know they stopped talking to him because he refused to support neocons sponsored ISIS terrorists in Syria or due to some other reason?

If that was the reason, if Hillary and Trump peoples had kept talking to Russian ambassador even after Obama stopped talking to him, were they also facing same treatment as this Congressman?
So many questions that Congress investigations may have to tackle.




Can we talk about the fact that THIS is Dennis Kucinich's wife?



There is also news of tapping of an anti-war Congressman by regime of his own party, there is his claim about Obama's was creating millions of refugees worldwide and this is the only thing we should talk about?

UWDude
03-13-2017, 10:14 PM
I still love Dennis, too. He got gerrymandered out by the Democrats.

merkelstan
03-13-2017, 10:54 PM
I want searchable access to all the NSA-recorded mails and conversations. Oh yeah and I want a fat paycheck for it too.

Valli6
03-13-2017, 10:57 PM
Do we know they stopped talking to him because he refused to support neocons sponsored ISIS terrorists in Syria or due to some other reason?

They stopped talking to him because they'd already decided to get rid of him and ordered airstrikes, calling it a humanitarian effort. Kucinich was pissed that Obama didn't even come to congress and called it an impeachable offense. March 21, 2011 http://www.rawstory.com/2011/03/exclusive-kucinich-calls-obamas-libya-attack-an-impeachable-offense

Then, Aug 28, 2011

The Gaddafi regime carried out an extraordinary clandestine lobbying operation to try to stop Nato's bombardment of Libya, and believed the western allies were likely to launch a full-scale invasion in "either late September or October"….

...The regime tried to persuade the Democratic congressman Dennis Kucinich – a well-known rebel who voted against Nato military action in Libya, and opposed the Iraq war – to visit Tripoli as part of a hastily arranged "peace mission". The Libyan government offered to pay all Kucinich's costs related to the trip, including "travel expenses and accommodation"…

..."Because of the efforts I had made early on to bring an end to the war, I started to get calls from Libya, including from the prime minister," the congressman told the Guardian. "He had taken note of the fact I was making an effort to put forward a peace proposal. I had several requests to go to Libya. I made it clear I could not negotiate on behalf of the administration. I said I was speaking as a member of Congress involved in the issue and willing to listen to what they had to say. But given that Libya was under attack, it did not seem a promising place to hold meetings."

He said that on one occasion he held an hour-long telephone conversation with the prime minister. He also confirmed Omeish had been in touch, acting as an intermediary for and supporter of the regime….
(MORE) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/25/libya-letters-gaddafi-nato-obama

Later - January 28, 2015

Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war

Top Pentagon officials and a senior Democrat in Congress so distrusted Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s 2011 march to war in Libya that they opened their own diplomatic channels with the Gadhafi regime in an effort to halt the escalating crisis, according to secret audio recordings recovered from Tripoli.

“You should see these internal State Department reports that are produced in the State Department that go out to the Congress. They’re just full of stupid, stupid facts,” an American intermediary specifically dispatched by the Joint Chiefs of Staff told the Gadhafi regime in July 2011, saying the State Department was controlling what intelligence would be reported to U.S. officials.

At the time, the Gadhafi regime was fighting a civil war that grew out of the Arab Spring, battling Islamist-backed rebels who wanted to dethrone the longtime dictator. Mrs. Clinton argued that Gadhafi might engage in genocide and create a humanitarian crisis and ultimately persuaded President Obama, NATO allies and the United Nations to authorize military intervention.

Gadhafi’s son and heir apparent, Seif Gadhafi, told American officials in the secret conversations that he was worried Mrs. Clinton was using false pretenses to justify unseating his father and insisted that the regime had no intention of harming a mass of civilians. He compared Mrs. Clinton’s campaign for war to that of the George W. Bush administration’s now debunked weapons of mass destruction accusations, which were used to lobby Congress to invade Iraq, the tapes show.

The tapes, reviewed by The Washington Times and authenticated by the participants, chronicle U.S. officials’ unfiltered conversations with Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s son and a top Libyan leader, including criticisms that Mrs. Clinton had developed tunnel vision and led the U.S. into an unnecessary war without adequately weighing the intelligence community’s concerns.

“It was like the WMDs in Iraq. It was based on a false report,” Gadhafi said in a May 2011 phone call to Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, an Ohio Democrat serving at the time. “Libyan airplanes bombing demonstrators, Libyan airplanes bombing districts in Tripoli, Libyan army killed thousands, etc., etc., and now the whole world found there is no single evidence that such things happened in Libya.”…

MORE http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/28/hillary-clinton-undercut-on-libya-war-by-pentagon-

Can you believe it? Hillary Clinton created all this mayhem, death and displacement to prevent a humanitarian crisis! :rolleyes: :mad:

Athan
03-14-2017, 08:03 AM
Probably the only decent man on the left.

enhanced_deficit
03-14-2017, 11:10 AM
They stopped talking to him because they'd already decided to get rid of him and ordered airstrikes, calling it a humanitarian effort. Kucinich was pissed that Obama didn't even come to congress and called it an impeachable offense. March 21, 2011 http://www.rawstory.com/2011/03/exclusive-kucinich-calls-obamas-libya-attack-an-impeachable-offense

Then, Aug 28, 2011


Later - January 28, 2015


Can you believe it? Hillary Clinton created all this mayhem, death and displacement to prevent a humanitarian crisis! :rolleyes: :mad:

Perhaps time for a Nobel Peace Prize for Hillary.

That was informative, thank you.

PierzStyx
03-14-2017, 12:53 PM
There is also news of tapping of an anti-war Congressman by regime of his own party, there is his claim about Obama's was creating millions of refugees worldwide and this is the only thing we should talk about?

No. But we will talk about that ad nauseam. I also enjoy lighter faire. Like the fact that a 70 year old barely taller than a hobbit married a woman twice his height and almost half his age. He must be doing something right.

enhanced_deficit
03-14-2017, 01:02 PM
Ok, that can be an interesting tangent for lighter commentary.
Love can be blind sometimes :)

merkelstan
03-14-2017, 08:19 PM
you thinking people will be eliminated

enhanced_deficit
05-06-2017, 05:41 AM
Rand received info from an anonymous source, Sent Trump a letter about it on April 10, 2017. Sent additional copies to Bannon and Priebus.


Rand Paul: Obama may have spied on me, other lawmakers using NSA intercepts
by John Solomon - May 5, 2017

Paul quietly asked for the probe nearly a month ago in a letter to Trump that was obtained by Circa.

"An anonymous source recently alleged to me that my name, as well as the names of other Members of Congress, were unmasked, queried or both, in intelligence reports of intercepts during the prior administration," Paul wrote Trump in a letter dated April 10.

"In light of the revelations that the names of persons associated with the Trump campaign were unmasked, I believe the allegations that myself and other elected members of the legislative branch may have also been unmasked or caught in intelligence gathering warrants investigation."

The emergence of the letter, which also was copied to White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus and senior Trump adviser Steve Bannon, comes after Circa recently reported that members of Congress and their staffs have been unmasked in NSA intelligence reports as frequently as once a month since President Obama loosened privacy protections back in 2011...

...Paul's letter offered no further detail on the source of the allegations of any specific incident or intercepts.

A source in the intelligence community told Circa on Friday that they were unaware of any unmaskings of NSA intercepts that occurred in 2016 when Paul was running for president that would have required a notification to Congress. The source did not know about prior years.

Usually if the intelligence community reveals the identity of a lawmaker in an NSA intercept, Congress gets what is known as a Gates notification.
(See letter) http://circa.com/politics/rand-paul-...nsa-intercepts (http://circa.com/politics/rand-paul-obama-may-have-spied-on-me-other-lawmakers-using-nsa-intercepts)







Could be trouble ahead for Obama if all these lawmakers joined forces to investigate these alleged activities.





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