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jct74
03-10-2017, 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hDjJGwg-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hDjJGwg-E

jct74
03-10-2017, 10:05 PM
Rand on Tucker's show last night



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidpxrvElXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jidpxrvElXc


more interviews on Rand's youtube channel, he's done a shitload in the past week or so

anaconda
03-11-2017, 01:06 AM
Trump's teleprompter reading is really bad.

anaconda
03-11-2017, 01:09 AM
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Trump likes Rand's integrity and intellect. I bet Trump is more inclined to trust him

georgiaboy
03-11-2017, 09:20 PM
GO RAND!!

merkelstan
03-12-2017, 06:51 PM
Well credit to Rand on this one.

kahless
03-14-2017, 10:54 AM
Looking at these interviews from stand point as the average viewer they are not going to help Rand politically and rightfully so. He keeps talking about ending the subsidies in each of these interviews while offering no plan or discussion on how his plan will reduce costs if at all. Bolling brought up a good point towards the end about leaving people in the lurch. Rand's response was insufficient.

Getting rid of the subsidies now without fixing the cost problem first is going to hurt allot of people. With the costs remaining unaffordable without the subsidy people will simply just drop their insurance.

The first thing that should have been done (what Trump and the Paul's ran on) was health care competition across state lines. Yet that is getting pushed off to to (2nd or 3rd phase) if it happens at all.

The take away from these interviews is it gets repealed leaving a mess without a solution while what is being proposed appeals to insurance companies and the Oligarch class solely while the regular people get screwed.

CPUd
03-14-2017, 11:21 AM
Looking at these interviews from stand point as the average viewer they are not going to help Rand politically and rightfully so. He keeps talking about ending the subsidies in each of these interviews while offering no plan or discussion on how his plan will reduce costs if at all. Bolling brought up a good point towards the end about leaving people in the lurch. Rand's response was insufficient.

Getting rid of the subsidies now without fixing the cost problem first is going to hurt allot of people. With the costs remaining unaffordable without the subsidy people will simply just drop their insurance.

The first thing that should have been done (what Trump and the Paul's ran on) was health care competition across state lines. Yet that is getting pushed off to to (2nd or 3rd phase) if it happens at all.

The take away from these interviews is it gets repealed leaving a mess without a solution while what is being proposed appeals to insurance companies and the Oligarch class solely while the regular people get screwed.

Trump ran on "everyone will be covered". That is what he is campaigning against fiscal conservatives and trying to get passed.

EBounding
03-14-2017, 11:58 AM
Looking at these interviews from stand point as the average viewer they are not going to help Rand politically and rightfully so. He keeps talking about ending the subsidies in each of these interviews while offering no plan or discussion on how his plan will reduce costs if at all. Bolling brought up a good point towards the end about leaving people in the lurch. Rand's response was insufficient.

Getting rid of the subsidies now without fixing the cost problem first is going to hurt allot of people. With the costs remaining unaffordable without the subsidy people will simply just drop their insurance.

The first thing that should have been done (what Trump and the Paul's ran on) was health care competition across state lines. Yet that is getting pushed off to to (2nd or 3rd phase) if it happens at all.

The take away from these interviews is it gets repealed leaving a mess without a solution while what is being proposed appeals to insurance companies and the Oligarch class solely while the regular people get screwed.


I have to agree with most of this. He needs to focus on how his plan addresses PEC's and how you won't necessarily have to be chained to your employer for insurance, if you so choose. His plan does a very good job of addressing both problems while also creating markets to lower costs.

helmuth_hubener
03-14-2017, 12:23 PM
With the costs remaining unaffordable without the subsidy people will simply just drop their insurance. Who cares?


He needs to focus on how his plan addresses PEC's and how you won't necessarily have to be chained to your employer for insurance, if you so choose. His plan does a very good job of addressing both problems.
Does it? Does it start taxing employer-provided insurance at the same rate as income?

Oh, it doesn't? Then it does not come even close to addressing the problem.

The system right now is madness. It's utter madness. And all that it would take to make it not madness is the Coulter Plan, because nobody would put up with this madness if the people getting the service were paying for the service.

To have a market, there need to be customers. Are there customers right now, in the US health care system? Not hardly. Not even close.

Until there are customers, until customers actually exist, nothing is going to get fixed.

dannno
03-14-2017, 01:09 PM
Trump ran on "everyone will be covered". That is what he is campaigning against fiscal conservatives and trying to get passed.

Everybody would be covered under Rand's plan, people will pre-existing conditions can get insurance in a pool.

EBounding
03-14-2017, 01:28 PM
Does it? Does it start taxing employer-provided insurance at the same rate as income?

Oh, it doesn't? Then it does not come even close to addressing the problem.

I'd also like to see the employer tax credit go away altogether since it encourages "over-consumption" of health insurance, but it's not politically viable even with rock-ribbed conservatives.

Rand's plan gives the same tax credit treatment to individual plans as employer insurance. Is it ideal? No. Is it better? Absolutely. This will create a competitive market since there will no longer be a tax advantage to having employer insurance over an individual/association plan.

helmuth_hubener
03-14-2017, 01:44 PM
I'd also like to see the employer tax credit go away altogether since it encourages "over-consumption" of health insurance, but it's not politically viable even with rock-ribbed conservatives. Why not? What makes you think that?