Rand Paul: I Talk To Trump Twice A Week; He's Open To a Revised Bill [Archive]

AuH20

03-10-2017, 02:15 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/03/10/rand-paul-i-talked-trump-hes-open-negotiation-obamacare-repeal/

Kassam noted that the White House is making a push for the House bill on Paul’s home turf in Kentucky and asked if the situation had devolved into “all-out war” between Senator Paul and the executive branch.

“Actually, I think the president is very open to negotiation,” Paul replied. “I talked to him again last night by phone. I’ve talked to him twice a week, which is quite a bit for anybody to talk to the president that’s not in the administration.”

“I talked to him again last night. He said he’s open to negotiation, but I reiterated to him that Paul Ryan went on TV for 45 minutes yesterday with a press conference, and he said, ‘The response to this, the choices are binary.’ Well, binary means there are two choices: either we take it or leave it. Either we take Obamacare Lite or we get nothing. That isn’t sitting well with conservatives, and I promise you, the more we hear Paul Ryan say, ‘Take it or leave it,’ the less we’re willing to take it,” he said.

jonhowe

03-10-2017, 02:18 PM

I feel like I'm living in the alternative universe in Star Trek.

What should we ask Rand to tell Trump?

phill4paul

03-10-2017, 02:23 PM

I feel like I'm living in the alternative universe in Star Trek.

What should we ask Rand to tell Trump?

Tell Trump he needs to tell Ryan and the American people, that Obambacarelite is D.O.A. if it hit's his desk.

AuH20

03-10-2017, 02:23 PM

Paul Ryan's collar must be getting hot right about now, thinking that he could control the false narrative.

JK/SEA

03-10-2017, 03:38 PM

I feel like I'm living in the alternative universe in Star Trek.

What should we ask Rand to tell Trump?

tell him there are trump haters on RPF?....

dannno

03-10-2017, 03:41 PM

I feel like I'm living in the alternative universe in Star Trek.

What should we ask Rand to tell Trump?

Let the grownups work this out (Rand is the most grownup, second is Trump, then Trump supporters. Anti-Trump folks seem to be the most immature)

phill4paul

03-10-2017, 04:29 PM

Let the grownups work this out (Rand is the most grownup, second is Trump, then Trump supporters. Anti-Trump folks seem to be the most immature)

Lol. So you are saying you are more mature because you support Trump. Damn that is some funny shit.

William Tell

03-10-2017, 04:31 PM

Ron is immature? :(

phill4paul

03-10-2017, 04:34 PM

Ron is immature? :(

Of course he is, silly. dannno says so, so it must be so.

Noob

03-10-2017, 05:34 PM

Repeal Obamacare Petition.

http://action.americancommitment.org/ctas/repeal-obamacare

dannno

03-10-2017, 05:46 PM

Ron is immature? :(

No, Ron is very mature, I just watched his interview on Alex Jones the other day where they were discussing Trump (interview was from about a month ago). Ron had a lot of great things to say about Trump, but was also a little skeptical, as am I.

But when the establishment comes out with a bunch of bullshit about Trump, like how the Russians hacked the DNC and were trying to hack our elections or something to get get Trump elected, Ron Paul calls them out.

What I see around here a lot is a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary bullshit and bootlicking of the establishment.

CaptUSA

03-10-2017, 06:04 PM

No, Ron is very mature, I just watched his interview on Alex Jones the other day where they were discussing Trump (interview was from about a month ago). Ron had a lot of great things to say about Trump, but was also a little skeptical, as am I.

But when the establishment comes out with a bunch of bullshit about Trump, like how the Russians hacked the DNC and were trying to hack our elections or something to get get Trump elected, Ron Paul calls them out.

What I see around here a lot is a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary bullshit and bootlicking of the establishment.

?? Come on, Danno.... Ron Paul calling out the deep state is a far cry from supporting anything that Trump is doing! You're trying to make a correlation where none exists. I'm pretty sure most of us aren't getting caught up in the whole CNN Russia game... Most of us are ridiculing Trump for his statist policies. Exactly like Ron Paul is doing.

What I see is people who are giving Trump an incredible amount of leeway because they "hope" that, while he's supporting some big government BS and hiring plenty of neocons, he's somehow playing a game with them all.

seapilot

03-10-2017, 07:21 PM

Its starting to look like Obama care lite is going to be the rope that Ryan is going to use to hang himself.

William Tell

03-10-2017, 07:33 PM

No, Ron is very mature, I just watched his interview on Alex Jones the other day where they were discussing Trump (interview was from about a month ago). Ron had a lot of great things to say about Trump, but was also a little skeptical, as am I.

It's worth noting that Alex has been editing out Ron's criticism of Trump in some interviews to make him sound like more of a fan. Sad. But maybe the interview you heard was unedited I don't know.

But when the establishment comes out with a bunch of bull$#@! about Trump, like how the Russians hacked the DNC and were trying to hack our elections or something to get get Trump elected, Ron Paul calls them out.

What I see around here a lot is a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary bull$#@! and bootlicking of the establishment.
The Russian stuff was obviously BS and a non issue to most of us. I don't see establishment bootlicking here, I see opposition to RyanCare which Trump has been pushing. I think its possible Rand can win the healthcare battle and I certainly hope he can convince Trump to help him kill Obamacare. But so far Trump has been on the wrong side of it.

dannno

03-10-2017, 08:05 PM

What I see is people who are giving Trump an incredible amount of leeway because they "hope" that, while he's supporting some big government BS and hiring plenty of neocons, he's somehow playing a game with them all.

That's a pretty good observation.

CaptUSA

03-10-2017, 08:09 PM

That's a pretty good observation.

But it's only your own HOPE!!! It's the fantasy that he's built for you!! He wrote a book about playing to your fantasies!! He's pissing down your back and you're thinking it's raining! lol

Health Care? big government
Stimulus? big government
Spending? big government
Militarism? big government interventionist
Police state? big government
Federal agents? Spying? Cronyism? big government, big government, big government.

When will you learn?!

nikcers

03-10-2017, 08:10 PM

IMO as I stated in the Rand and Trump are friends thread is Rand Paul is trying to use his appeal with Trump supporters and his power in the Senate and allies in the house freedom caucus to influence Trump. I have no doubt Rand and Trump talk on the phone twice a week, but not as friends but more like a hostage negotiation, where Rand is threatening to go "nuclear" against the administration. There was a video saying something like that in an interview with Reason, where he said we have the people to stand up if everyone in the house freedom caucus stood up to the administration to get budget cuts and fix healthcare.

dannno

03-10-2017, 08:14 PM

I'm pretty sure most of us aren't getting caught up in the whole CNN Russia game...

The Russian stuff was obviously BS

Good to hear, but did you ever ask yourself why the establishment pushed that narrative so hard? Why did they put their credibility on the line for it?

CPUd

03-10-2017, 08:18 PM

But it's only your own HOPE!!! It's the fantasy that he's built for you!! He wrote a book about playing to your fantasies!! He's pissing down your back and you're thinking it's raining! lol

Health Care? big government
Stimulus? big government
Spending? big government
Militarism? big government interventionist
Police state? big government
Federal agents? Spying? Cronyism? big government, big government, big government.

When will you learn?!

Most of that stuff was done under Obama, so there's precedent.

dannno

03-10-2017, 08:28 PM

But it's only your own HOPE!!! It's the fantasy that he's built for you!! He wrote a book about playing to your fantasies!! He's pissing down your back and you're thinking it's raining! lol

Health Care? big government
Stimulus? big government
Spending? big government
Militarism? big government interventionist
Police state? big government
Federal agents? Spying? Cronyism? big government, big government, big government.

When will you learn?!

I would say Trump is small government on all those issues, compared to what we have now.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 08:38 PM

I would say Trump is small government on all those issues, compared to what we have now. I agree the Trump we have is defective, I want your small government Trump to be president.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 08:46 PM

"I watch Trump through a different filter. When I see Trump, I see a stand-up comedian. He connects with audiences in the same way, he knows how to make you laugh in a moment where you didn't think you would, he knows how to broach a topic in a way that no one normally can."-Trevor Noah
Where do you buy your small government filter?

CaptUSA

03-10-2017, 09:11 PM

I would say Trump is small government on all those issues, compared to what we have now.

Seriously. Seek help. You are only seeing what you "hope" he is. He sold you on your own fantasy and you bought it. Perhaps, you'd like to look at his cabinet? His bombings and raids? His own friggin' words (not what you "imagined" he really meant).

dannno

03-10-2017, 09:18 PM

Seriously. Seek help. You are only seeing what you "hope" he is. He sold you on your own fantasy and you bought it. Perhaps, you'd like to look at his cabinet? His bombings and raids? His own friggin' words (not what you "imagined" he really meant).

His cabinet is the best cabinet we have seen in my life time, probably longer, and I think he is going to have by far the most peaceful foreign policy we have seen in at LEAST 16 years if not much, much longer.

That's not saying much, because the cabinets we have had and the foreign policy we have had to endure has been atrocious, but at least we are going in the right direction here and not slipping further into the pit.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 09:40 PM

His cabinet is the best cabinet we have seen in my life time, probably longer, and I think he is going to have by far the most peaceful foreign policy we have seen in at LEAST 16 years if not much, much longer.

That's not saying much, because the cabinets we have had and the foreign policy we have had to endure has been atrocious, but at least we are going in the right direction here and not slipping further into the pit.
increase in military spending, (read not defense) 400% increase in drone strikes, raising debt ceiling(soon..) advocating for industry bailouts (trumpcare) I think your high if you think this is the right direction.

dannno

03-10-2017, 09:45 PM

increase in military spending, (read not defense) 400% increase in drone strikes, raising debt ceiling(soon..) advocating for industry bailouts (trumpcare) I think your high if you think this is the right direction.

I am high, but I don't think what you are portraying is the reality of the situation at all. Trump is helping to push Rand's bill forward, the drone strikes probably won't last more than a few months and won't be targeted at foreign nations, he will be destroying ISIS which is something we are sorta responsible for. I think are going to see some pretty good economic policies coming out of the Trump admin.

I mean, you're repeating CFR propaganda to get your point across, I think you need to step back and think for a minute about that.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 09:56 PM

I am high, but I don't think what you are portraying is the reality of the situation at all. Trump is helping to push Rand's bill forward, the drone strikes probably won't last more than a few months and won't be targeted at foreign nations, he will be destroying ISIS which is something we are sorta responsible for. I think are going to see some pretty good economic policies coming out of the Trump admin.

I mean, you're repeating CFR propaganda to get your point across, I think you need to step back and think for a minute about that.
I mean, you're repeating TRUMP propaghanja to get your point across, ithink you need to stop reading the /r/thedonald and realize that it is an echo chamber the Trumpstablishment creates to promote ideas. You have people on here telling people to go there and leave this website because we aren't a safe space for your orange publican. Just look at this fuckings shillpost that was just posted.. Why do we have to fucking talk aobut OBAMA or Clinton when Trump is the one in power right now, if Obama is a fucking terrorist he should just drone him already and get it over with it would be constitutional and the right thing to fucking do.

Yep, because there definitely aren't enough REAL, SERIOUS scandals involving HRC and Obama that we'd need to focus on baseless Russian claims. (https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5yqrr9/yep_because_there_definitely_arent_enough_real/) (i.redd.it (https://www.reddit.com/domain/i.redd.it/))

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Origanalist

03-10-2017, 10:00 PM

It's worth noting that Alex has been editing out Ron's criticism of Trump in some interviews to make him sound like more of a fan. Sad. But maybe the interview you heard was unedited I don't know.

The Russian stuff was obviously BS and a non issue to most of us. I don't see establishment bootlicking here, I see opposition to RyanCare which Trump has been pushing. I think its possible Rand can win the healthcare battle and I certainly hope he can convince Trump to help him kill Obamacare. But so far Trump has been on the wrong side of it.

To dannno, anyone who criticizes The Orange One is a establishment bootlicker. It's fucking pathetic how he tries to frame shit.

dannno

03-10-2017, 10:03 PM

ithink you need to stop reading the /r/thedonald

I've really been meaning to go check that place out, but I haven't really been to reddit in years.

AuH20

03-10-2017, 10:05 PM

dannno

03-10-2017, 10:06 PM

To dannno, anyone who criticizes The Orange One is a establishment bootlicker. It's fucking pathetic how he tries to frame shit.

Ron Paul criticizes him all the time, I have no issue with what he says about Trump. I'm just trying to lay out how I see things playing out, which is vastly different from those who are in the hate Trump echo chamber.

Brian4Liberty

03-10-2017, 10:07 PM

It's great that Rand has this access and respect.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 10:12 PM

I've really been meaning to go check that place out, but I haven't really been to reddit in years. muh safe space, you NEVER go to /thedonald ??it's funny that I know more about Trump then a professed Trump supporter- I guess I kind of just try to read all types of opinions even orange colored opinions because looking at things in difference perspectives lets you form your own opinion, and I try to look at things from orange colored glasses, I keep trying them on, but I guess I might be color blind or something because they look like shit colored glasses to me.

nikcers

03-10-2017, 10:25 PM

It's great that Rand has this access and respect.
Thank god we have Rand Paul in the Senate, as Mathews always says. I just hope that This Nigerian scam artist we have driving the neocon bus doesn't throw Rand Paul under it.

AuH20

03-10-2017, 10:33 PM

It's great that Rand has this access and respect.

He has friends in HIGH PLACES. Who do you think put the kibosh on Abrams?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/14/elliott-abrams-blames-steve-bannon-for-blocking-job-in-trump-administration/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BowIrZQHbI

CPUd

03-10-2017, 10:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktbu1X_XvJU

http://i.imgur.com/WKyhobk.png

nikcers

03-10-2017, 10:58 PM

He has friends in HIGH PLACES. Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

AuH20

03-10-2017, 11:24 PM

I know the various reporters say that they've made up, but I don't believe it for a second. There is deep rooted animosity that Bannon feels towards Ryan.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/why-steve-bannon-hates-paul-ryan.html

Bannon informed his staffers at Breitbart that a core part of their editorial mission was to “destroy Paul Ryan’s political career.” In December, he told one of his reporters that his “long game” was to have Ryan ousted from his Speakership by spring 2016. Both of these directives came after Trump had launched his campaign — and before Ryan had expressed any approval of the GOP front-runner. But the roots of Bannon’s antipathy for the Speaker and his ilk predates this election cycle — in 2014, Trump’s chief strategist told his fellow religious conservatives that “the tea party’s biggest fight is not with the left,” but rather with “the Republican establishment, which is really a collection of crony capitalists.”

Now that Pence has successfully thrown Flynn overboard and in the process assumed his foreign policy responsibilities, the next target is Bannon. Pence is the one who is actively pushing Ryan's 'take it or leave it' healthcare bill.

CPUd

03-10-2017, 11:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeR8LH5_s5A

dannno

03-11-2017, 04:47 AM

it's funny that I know more about Trump then a professed Trump supporter

You certainly know a lot more misinformation straight from the establishment media... And you like to quote CFR propaganda. Congrats, I guess :confused:

CPUd

03-11-2017, 06:01 AM

muh safe space, you NEVER go to /thedonald ??it's funny that I know more about Trump then a professed Trump supporter- I guess I kind of just try to read all types of opinions even orange colored opinions because looking at things in difference perspectives lets you form your own opinion, and I try to look at things from orange colored glasses, I keep trying them on, but I guess I might be color blind or something because they look like shit colored glasses to me.

If you believed the msm propaganda, you would think that President Donald was in favor of the House bill, because they played a clip of him saying, "I'm proud to support the replacement plan released by the House of Representatives and encouraged by both parties." This is actually misleading, because immediately after he says that, he says:

http://i.imgur.com/JycixZr.jpg

and this shows clearly he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about, and will sign whatever Paul Ryan puts in front of him and tells him to sign.

nikcers

03-11-2017, 10:34 AM

You certainly know a lot more misinformation straight from the establishment media... And you like to quote CFR propaganda. Congrats, I guess :confused:
'Bomb the Sh*t Out Of Them!' - Trump Drones Yemen More in One Week Than Obama in a Year (http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2017/march/09/bomb-the-shstart-out-of-them-trump-drones-yemen-more-in-one-week-than-obama-in-a-year/) (ronpaulinstitute.org (https://www.reddit.com/domain/ronpaulinstitute.org/))
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

It's on the Ron Paul institute and I heard it from RPF. You should upvote it on reddit.

William Tell

03-11-2017, 10:43 AM

'Bomb the Sh*t Out Of Them!' - Trump Drones Yemen More in One Week Than Obama in a Year (http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2017/march/09/bomb-the-shstart-out-of-them-trump-drones-yemen-more-in-one-week-than-obama-in-a-year/) (ronpaulinstitute.org (https://www.reddit.com/domain/ronpaulinstitute.org/))
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

It's on the Ron Paul institute and I heard it from RPF. You should upvote it on reddit.

Oh noes, Daniel McAdams is a CFR propagandist who wants Pence and the NeoCons to be president forever!:(