Malik Obama tweets Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate

[Original_Intent]

If that held up, wouldn't every official act of the last administration be null and void?


http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/Denryu/Obamabirthcertificate_zpsnjkttkuw.jpg

[Original_Intent]

Oh, the document isn't really clear, but that's a Kenyan birth certificate. The "Honolulu, Hawaii" line is the Residence of Mother.

[juleswin]

Why would he have the birth certificate for Obama? no of my relatives have my birth certificate. I think its a bit weird that he has access to it. On that count alone, I call the document BS.

[Ender]

Why would he have the birth certificate for Obama? no of my relatives have my birth certificate. I think its a bit weird that he has access to it. On that count alone, I call the document BS.

Agree-

Plus Chester A. Arthur was probably not a "citizen" as well, so the precedent has already been established.

[anaconda]

Plus somebody walked across it with dirty feet. Should be invalidated based upon this.

[fedupinmo]

If true, he isn't even a citizen as Stan wasn't old enough to satisfy the residency requirement in 1961.
And that precedence shit is a weak excuse to let liberty's protections be further eroded just because they got by with it before.

[oyarde]

Why would he have the birth certificate for Obama? no of my relatives have my birth certificate. I think its a bit weird that he has access to it. On that count alone, I call the document BS.

Are they recorded at a place of public records ?

[juleswin]

Are they recorded at a place of public records ?

Dunno about Kenya but in Nigeria, the family gets a copy of the birth certificate and the hospital has your name in their birth record ledger which they send to the local govt at the end of the month or year. The hospital/govt doesn't have hold any documents other than your name on the list. And in the case that you lose your birth certificate, all you have to do is go to the hospital or local govt and they would print a replacement document for you.

What I am saying is that there is no way this man would have had access to it. And even if Kenyan hospital/ govt held a copy of the birth certificate, other more competent and ambitious reporters would have discovered it before him.

Lastly, his stupid looking red hat is another give away that he may be very dishonest in his assessment of Obama

[juleswin]

Agree-

Plus Chester A. Arthur was probably not a "citizen" as well, so the precedent has already been established.

I have no idea who C.A. Arthur is but I really don't see the difference having an American BC would make on the way he ruled.

[oyarde]

I have no idea who C.A. Arthur is but I really don't see the difference having an American BC would make on the way he ruled.

Arthur was Pres 1881 - 1885 , born in Vermont and grew up in Upstate NY. He was a lawyer .

[Dr.3D]

If that held up, wouldn't every official act of the last administration be null and void?


Those in power would do anything to avoid the embarrassment of having it found to be true.

[nikcers]

Obama tweets Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate

I think Obama is a fake person as much as the next but if one Obama is fake then the other Obama isn't automatically not fake. It's equally likely that both Obamas are fake, and that both of them only tell lies.

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate-1-1024.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

Date and time are both the same.

[enhanced_deficit]

Thought he changed his name later on, that if true would make name shown here wrong.


But they seem quite close over the years and Malik seems to have many photos.

http://www.fgtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Bill-OReilly-Shares-Photos-of-Barack-Obama-at-Muslim-Wedding.jpg

http://americatimes.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/obama_wedding.jpghttp://drrichswier.com/wp-content/uploads/malik-obama-with-his-brother-barack.jpg

[juleswin]

Thought he changed his name later on, that if true would make name shown here wrong.


But they seem quite close over the years and Malik seems to have many photos.

http://www.fgtnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Bill-OReilly-Shares-Photos-of-Barack-Obama-at-Muslim-Wedding.jpg


What's the point with the pictures?

[timosman]

Dunno about Kenya but in Nigeria, the family gets a copy of the birth certificate and the hospital has your name in their birth record ledger which they send to the local govt at the end of the month or year. The hospital/govt doesn't have hold any documents other than your name on the list. And in the case that you lose your birth certificate, all you have to do is go to the hospital or local govt and they would print a replacement document for you.

What I am saying is that there is no way this man would have had access to it. And even if Kenyan hospital/ govt held a copy of the birth certificate, other more competent and ambitious reporters would have discovered it before him.

Lastly, his stupid looking red hat is another give away that he may be very dishonest in his assessment of Obama

Yeah, I agree. Trump's jokes sometimes are in bad taste. I think he goes too far.:rolleyes:

[timosman]

Why didn't Malik warn us? Did they hold him captive all these years?:eek:

[enhanced_deficit]

Why didn't Malik warn us? Did they hold him captive all these years?http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Good question, why did he wait till now if this is not fake?
If he was waiting for Hillary defeat for fear of reprisal having seen what happened to Obama's Pastor Wright's daughter ( she was sent to prison for "corruption", soon after Rev. Wright told media that Obama's handlers offered him money to keep quiet), still it looks opportunistic.


What's the point with the pictures?

These indicate the two brothers have been close, it makes it more remarkable that best man at his wedding would produce such a doc.

[timosman]

These indicate the two brothers have been close, it makes it more remarkable that best man at his wedding would produce such a doc.

Tough choice. My shit brother vs. the rest of the humanity.:confused:

[Weston White]

Shouldn't it depict the name "Barry Soetoro"?

[timosman]

Shouldn't it depict the name "Barry Soetoro"?

Did you see father's name? He is Obama II.;)

[fr33]

Probably fake. The twitter account seems like a 4chan meme.

[UWDude]

What I am saying is that there is no way this man would have had access to it.

It's Obama's brother. Malik Obama.

Jowever, this document is strange. Some guy claims he bought it on the internet. Probably hoax. From long ago.


Probably fake. The twitter account seems like a 4chan meme.

That is Malik Obama's twitter.

[ChristianAnarchist]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/Denryu/Obamabirthcertificate_zpsnjkttkuw.jpg

Didn't see a thread on this so I hope this is not a dupe. This one is a shocker, isn't it? We have been labeled nutcases all along for even questioning the validity of that fake birth cert a few years back. Now his half-brother posts what appears to be a REAL Kenyan BC.

My only observation is that it looks nothing like my birth certificate from 1952 but then they are from different countries so who knows? It would be good to see other birth certificates from that country and that time frame to compare...

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/03/10/obamas-kenyan-birth-certificate-posted-online-by-his-half-brother-malik/

[ghengis86]

How many layers does the PDF have?

[Dr.3D]

We finally get a look at Obama's birth certificate and people start confusing it with a chicken coup.

[ChristianAnarchist]

How many layers does the PDF have?

Yeah, those layers in the released BC were what made me shake my head in disbelief. I could not fathom someone so stupid as to release a multi-layered PDF as "proof" of a 70 year old birth certificate. Absolute insanity!!

[fedupinmo]

We finally get a look at Obama's birth certificate and people start confusing it with a chicken coup.
That's obviously a chicken sedan. :p

[Dr.3D]

That's obviously a chicken sedan. :p

Yeah, and it doesn't matter how many hens are laying.

https://s17-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fcdn.goodshomedesign.com% 2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F11%2FCar-Chicken-Coop-1.jpg&sp=d32fef3a30015bb4274361c51c636533

[Valli6]

That is Malik Obama's twitter.
How can you trust that it's really his real account? Shouldn't it be marked "verified" if it's a well-known person's account? This would be too easy to fake.

[enhanced_deficit]

This appears to be his real account.

He probably would get "verified" status symbol once he announces "Malik Obama 2020" to primary Liz Warren/Michelle Obama or something big of that nature.

[timosman]

How can you trust that it's really his real account? Shouldn't it be marked "verified" if it's a well-known person's account? This would be too easy to fake.

Late Milo was not verified.

[osan]

Sex = 'M': definitive proof the document is fake.

[Zippyjuan]

The document is dated 17 February 1964 and a bears a legend identifying it as having been issued by the “Republic of Kenya,” but Kenya (a former British colony) didn’t officially adopt that name until 12 December 1964. In February 1964, it was known as the Dominion of Kenya.

The listed age of Barack Obama’s father is incorrect. (Barack Obama Sr. was born in 1936 and therefore would have been 24 or 25 years old at the time of Barack Jr.’s birth, not 26 as shown on the document.)

Mombasa is very far (several hundred miles) away from the part of Kenya in which Barack Obama Sr.’s family lived. Even if Barack Obama’s parents and family had wanted to travel away from their home so his birth could take place at hospital facilities within a large city, they would likely have set out for the much closer city of Nairobi.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

The listed age of Barack Obama’s father is incorrect. (Barack Obama Sr. was born in 1936 and therefore would have been 24 or 25 years old at the time of Barack Jr.’s birth, not 26 as shown on the document.)

My wife is from another country. She does not know her exact year of birth. Inaccuracies like that can be very common in other countries today, let alone the 1930s.




Mombasa is very far (several hundred miles) away from the part of Kenya in which Barack Obama Sr.’s family lived. Even if Barack Obama’s parents and family had wanted to travel away from their home so his birth could take place at hospital facilities within a large city, they would likely have set out for the much closer city of Nairobi.

Not necessarily, for various reasons. Travel in other countries does not always work they way it does in the US, for often very illogical reasons.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I did not follow this story at all, and I am sure people like ZippyJuan did not either.

Some parts of Hawaii almost seemed like a foreign country when I was there 10 years ago. I could see it being very rudimentary in 1961. I don't know all the logistics of who was where in '61, but I might guess that paying someone for a phony document in 1961 Hawaii might not have been out of the realm of possibility. Getting phony documents in the Philippines and other similar places is easy today, especially when dealing with locals.

On the other hand, maybe Zero was born here. I don't really care.

[helmuth_hubener]

other more competent and ambitious reporters would have discovered it before him.

Aaaahh ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[anaconda]

How many layers does the PDF have?

^^This.

[ChristianAnarchist]

^^This.

Pretty sure it's one...

[jmdrake]

Sex = 'M': definitive proof the document is fake.

LOL

[jmdrake]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb17/Denryu/Obamabirthcertificate_zpsnjkttkuw.jpg

Didn't see a thread on this so I hope this is not a dupe. This one is a shocker, isn't it? We have been labeled nutcases all along for even questioning the validity of that fake birth cert a few years back. Now his half-brother posts what appears to be a REAL Kenyan BC.

My only observation is that it looks nothing like my birth certificate from 1952 but then they are from different countries so who knows? It would be good to see other birth certificates from that country and that time frame to compare...

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/03/10/obamas-kenyan-birth-certificate-posted-online-by-his-half-brother-malik/

Thanks for posting. 25 posts in before we got a pic. I was like WTF? Anyway, there's a footprint on it. Footprints, like fingerprints, don't change. If someone really wanted to investigate this......

Oh snap! I just went to the link as saw the hat Obama's half brother is wearing!

https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/malik-obama.jpg

I take it they don't like each other very much.

[enhanced_deficit]

Footprints, like fingerprints, don't change. If someone really wanted to investigate this......


Not an expert but lines they dont seem to match.

https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/obama-feet-up.gif




With Trump in power, many would question findings of any investigation at this stage. Better to avoid investigation with taxpayers money.

[opal]

Wouldn't an African birth certificate NOT be in English?
*bullshit meter tilts*

not that I think he was born in the US.. just that alleged document.. bullshit

[enhanced_deficit]

Good question. But if Kenya was part of old British colonies, they could have have dual languages official systems.

[anaconda]

LOL

Even more LOL

[Chomp]

Many agree that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

[Dr.3D]

Not an expert but lines they dont seem to match.

https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/obama-feet-up.gif




With Trump in power, many would question findings of any investigation at this stage. Better to avoid investigation with taxpayers money.

Well, of course, those are bigger.

[loveshiscountry]

My wife is from another country. She does not know her exact year of birth. Inaccuracies like that can be very common in other countries today, let alone the 1930s.
Not necessarily, for various reasons. Travel in other countries does not always work they way it does in the US, for often very illogical reasons. Woman "forgetting" her age? Why sure it's an innocent mistake. ;)

[Anti Federalist]

Wouldn't an African birth certificate NOT be in English?
*bullshit meter tilts*

not that I think he was born in the US.. just that alleged document.. bullshit

"Official" language of Kenya was, and still is, English.

[Anti Federalist]

Where do you see that date?

Only dates I see are 1961, when Kenya was still a "British Protectorate".


The document is dated 17 February 1964 and a bears a legend identifying it as having been issued by the “Republic of Kenya,” but Kenya (a former British colony) didn’t officially adopt that name until 12 December 1964. In February 1964, it was known as the Dominion of Kenya.

The listed age of Barack Obama’s father is incorrect. (Barack Obama Sr. was born in 1936 and therefore would have been 24 or 25 years old at the time of Barack Jr.’s birth, not 26 as shown on the document.)

Mombasa is very far (several hundred miles) away from the part of Kenya in which Barack Obama Sr.’s family lived. Even if Barack Obama’s parents and family had wanted to travel away from their home so his birth could take place at hospital facilities within a large city, they would likely have set out for the much closer city of Nairobi.

[timosman]

Woman "forgetting" her age? Why sure it's an innocent mistake. ;)

How can you be so inconsiderate? You are destroying his relationship! :cool:

[ChristianAnarchist]

All in all, it appears this Kenya birth cert has way fewer errors than that phony Hawaiian one!

Also, my birth certificate has an error as well. It misspells my middle name (a typo I'm sure)...

[CPUd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-Yrr2FINU

[Zippyjuan]

The alleged "birth doctor" wasn't a baby doc and was at a different hospital at the time. Dr. James O. W. Ang'awa was working with infectious diseases at King George VI hospital in Nairobi.

https://www.scribd.com/document/53756195/Dr-James-O-W-Ang-awa-May-18-1961-University-of-Notre-Dame-Document-Delivery-11-10-2009-East-Africa-and-Rhodesia-Volume-37-page-995

[juleswin]

The alleged "birth doctor" wasn't a baby doc and was at a different hospital at the time. Dr. James O. W. Ang'awa was working with infectious diseases at King George VI hospital in Nairobi.

https://www.scribd.com/document/53756195/Dr-James-O-W-Ang-awa-May-18-1961-University-of-Notre-Dame-Document-Delivery-11-10-2009-East-Africa-and-Rhodesia-Volume-37-page-995

Really? I didn't know MDs can just switch to a different field after years of practice. Are you sure it is not a different Dr. James Ang'awa?

[timosman]

Really? I didn't know MDs can just switch to a different field after years of practice. Are you sure it is not a different Dr. James Ang'awa?

Did Zippy flab it again?:cool:

[jmdrake]

Not an expert but lines they dont seem to match.

https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/obama-feet-up.gif




With Trump in power, many would question findings of any investigation at this stage. Better to avoid investigation with taxpayers money.

I don't know if this belongs in AF's "passenger shaming" thread or the "Kelly Anne Conway with her feet on the couch" thread.

[juleswin]

I don't know if this belongs in AF's "passenger shaming" thread or the "Kelly Anne Conway with her feet on the couch" thread.

Dunno about those threads but I think it belongs in the silly photo shopped thread if they ever created on :)

[juleswin]

Did Zippy flab it again?:cool:

We would know in a few hours, zippy always has a comeback to anything. I can't wait for his reply :D

[ChristianAnarchist]

The alleged "birth doctor" wasn't a baby doc and was at a different hospital at the time. Dr. James O. W. Ang'awa was working with infectious diseases at King George VI hospital in Nairobi.

https://www.scribd.com/document/53756195/Dr-James-O-W-Ang-awa-May-18-1961-University-of-Notre-Dame-Document-Delivery-11-10-2009-East-Africa-and-Rhodesia-Volume-37-page-995

Not sure about these exact circumstances but I know that some doctors have relationships with multiple hospitals and even multiple specialties. Indeed, the "specialist" is something that was not very common in the 60's and a medical doctor might work on many different fields of interest. Most doctors were simply "M.D." (here in the USA) and were quite free to work delivering babies, reading x-rays or treating infectious diseases (or all of the above).

[enhanced_deficit]

EXCLUSIVE: Malik Obama says his brother Barack is a 'cuck'The Tab-Mar 2, 2017

Malik Obama, the Trump supporting former President's half-brother has spoken out to say his brother is a "cuck." In an exclusive interview with ...




WaPo is calling it conpiracy :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/03/10/a-conspiracy-site-with-white-house-press-credentials-revives-a-debunked-birther-story/

A conspiracy site with White House press credentials revives a debunked birther story
Philip Bump

On Thursday evening, precisely 49 days, five hours and 11 minutes after Barack Obama was no longer the president of the United States, the conspiracy-enthusiastic site Gateway Pundit posted a new story.
https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-10-at-12.00.18-PM.png&w=1484

[dannno]

Barack Obama’s half-brother rips ‘cold and ruthless’ ex-president
By Jon Levine
August 1, 2020

https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/barack-obamas-half-brother-rips-cold-and-ruthless-ex-president/


1510254909979045891

https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/1510254909979045891

[Pauls' Revere]

Plus somebody walked across it with dirty feet. Should be invalidated based upon this.

Simply match footprints like fingerprints. :tears:

[Snowball]

The most likely conclusion here is that the UK agreed to keep a lid on Obama's real birth certificate, which was held by them in London,
at the Kew branch of the National Archives, prior to his presidency. Obama was not born in Kenya, which did not exist in 1961.
He was born in the British Protectorate of East Africa.

https://nashdom.us/english/news/news/obamas-kenyan-birth-records-discovered-in-british-national-archives

[Anti Globalist]

I will never believe that Obama was actually born here. The government can easily create a fake birth certificate.