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CPUd
03-05-2017, 07:39 PM
Trump administration has found only $20 million in existing funds for wall

By Julia Edwards Ainsley | WASHINGTON


President Donald Trump’s promise to use existing funds to begin immediate construction of a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border has hit a financial roadblock, according to a document seen by Reuters.

The rapid start of construction, promised throughout Trump's campaign and in an executive order issued in January on border security, was to be financed, according to the White House, with "existing funds and resources" of the Department of Homeland Security.

But so far, the DHS has identified only $20 million that can be re-directed to the multi-billion-dollar project, according to a document prepared by the agency and distributed to congressional budget staff last week.

The document said the funds would be enough to cover a handful of contracts for wall prototypes, but not enough to begin construction of an actual barrier. This means that for the wall to move forward, the White House will need to convince Congress to appropriate funds.

An internal report, previously reported by Reuters, estimated that fully walling off or fencing the entire southern border would cost $21.6 billion - $9.3 million per mile of fence and $17.8 million per mile of wall.

Trump has said he will ask Congress to pay for what existing funds cannot cover and that Mexico will be pressured to pay back U.S. taxpayers at a later date.

Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has said he will include funding for a border wall in the budget for next fiscal year. He has estimated the cost to be between $12 billion and $15 billion.

Many Republican lawmakers have said they would vote against a plan that does not offset the cost of the wall with spending cuts.

In the document it submitted to Congress, the DHS said it would reallocate $5 million from a fence project in Naco, Arizona, that came in under budget and $15 million from a project to install cameras on top of trucks at the border.

The surveillance project was awarded to Virginia-based Tactical Micro, but was held up due to protests from other contractors, according to the DHS document. Tactical Micro could not be reached for comment.

The DHS only searched for extra funds within its $376 million budget for border security fencing, infrastructure and technology, so it would not have to ask for congressional approval to repurpose funding, according to the document.

Contractors cannot begin bidding to develop prototypes until March 6 but more than 265 businesses already have listed themselves as "interested parties" on a government web site.

Those interested range from small businesses to large government contractors such as Raytheon (RTN.N).

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-funds-idUSKBN1685SY

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-05-2017, 07:43 PM
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You're just another brick in the wall.



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CPUd
03-05-2017, 07:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2HiDA2M.jpg

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-05-2017, 07:46 PM
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CPUd
03-05-2017, 07:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/gx2xHy7.jpg

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-05-2017, 07:48 PM
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klamath
03-05-2017, 07:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/2HiDA2M.jpg Stupidest people alive believed this shit.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-05-2017, 07:52 PM
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CPUd
03-05-2017, 07:55 PM
Stupidest people alive believed this shit.

Maybe they can have a moneybomb for the wall.

CPUd
03-05-2017, 08:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/G5hTeok.jpg

NorthCarolinaLiberty
03-05-2017, 08:09 PM
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Dr.3D
03-05-2017, 08:14 PM
Well duh, Mexico is still trying to come up with the money.

eleganz
03-06-2017, 04:07 AM
Seriously nobody on the right will care if Trump doesn't build the wall. The left will be angrier than the right that Trump actually breaks a promise vs doing something they are passionately against.

Left is too funny. If SNL was centrist, their skits would be funny. Luckily Melissa McCartney is willing to come on every once in a while and save their asses.

kpitcher
03-06-2017, 08:53 AM
Seriously nobody on the right will care if Trump doesn't build the wall. The left will be angrier than the right that Trump actually breaks a promise vs doing something they are passionately against.

Left is too funny. If SNL was centrist, their skits would be funny. Luckily Melissa McCartney is willing to come on every once in a while and save their asses.

Maybe the traditional right, the trump supporters want the actual damn wall. At least the ones that eat at the same lunch place I do.

oyarde
03-06-2017, 08:59 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-funds-idUSKBN1685SY

Actually , he could lay off all of homeland security and use the whole budget .

oyarde
03-06-2017, 09:03 AM
DHS 375 million per yr for four years , that should get a bit of wall and speed things up at the airport . Make america greater again.

eleganz
03-06-2017, 07:49 PM
Maybe the traditional right, the trump supporters want the actual damn wall. At least the ones that eat at the same lunch place I do.

They want the wall but they will easily forgive Trump if he changed his mind, we all know that.

CPUd
03-06-2017, 08:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/yebi0W2.png

JK/SEA
03-06-2017, 10:09 PM
has anyone factored in the tourism dollars the wall will bring?...

think of it...millions of people a year paying 20 bucks to take a tour bus along the wall...food vendors, restaurants, bars.....the list is endless. Should pay off the wall in just a few years.

CPUd
03-06-2017, 10:20 PM
has anyone factored in the tourism dollars the wall will bring?...

think of it...millions of people a year paying 20 bucks to take a tour bus along the wall...food vendors, restaurants, bars.....the list is endless. Should pay off the wall in just a few years.

That's low energy. What they need to do is have gladiator fights. 2 guys south of the wall go at it, the one left standing gets to cross into the US.

CPUd
03-06-2017, 10:23 PM
He can get Don King to promote:

http://i.imgur.com/EV7WlIo.jpg

JK/SEA
03-07-2017, 09:00 AM
you want to joke about a feasible business opportunity?...typical vomit spewing from a lib.

MallsRGood
03-07-2017, 11:44 AM
funds would be enough to cover a handful of contracts for wall prototypes...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91Vdp-YPNHL._SL1500_.jpg

oyarde
03-07-2017, 12:40 PM
has anyone factored in the tourism dollars the wall will bring?...

think of it...millions of people a year paying 20 bucks to take a tour bus along the wall...food vendors, restaurants, bars.....the list is endless. Should pay off the wall in just a few years.

I would build spaces in the wall to lease for micro breweries , bars , restaurants , trinket shops etc

shakey1
03-07-2017, 12:46 PM
Well, like the idea or not, guess who's really going to pay for it?

https://i.imgur.com/bbUqOh4.jpg

JK/SEA
03-08-2017, 01:04 PM
I would build spaces in the wall to lease for micro breweries , bars , restaurants , trinket shops etc

hell yes, and Trump could build a world class hotel over looking the border into Mexico....

Dr.3D
03-08-2017, 01:36 PM
I would build spaces in the wall to lease for micro breweries , bars , restaurants , trinket shops etc
And on the other side of the wall, housing for folks in Mexico.

Zippyjuan
03-08-2017, 01:46 PM
Government Doesn't Know If Existing Wall has Been A Benefit or Not Against Illegal Immigration

https://www.usnews.com/news/arizona/articles/2017-02-16/watchdog-no-way-to-measure-us-mexico-border-wall-success


Watchdog: US Has No Way to Measure Border Wall Effectiveness

A report by Congress' watchdog says the United States does not have a way to measure how well fencing works to deter illegal crossings from Mexico.

SAN DIEGO (AP) — The United States does not have a way to measure how well fencing works to deter illegal crossings from Mexico, according to a report released Thursday by Congress' main watchdog as President Donald Trump renewed his pledge to build "a great wall" on the border.

The Government Accountability Office said the government spent $2.3 billion from 2007 to 2015 to extend fences to 654 miles of the nearly 2,000-mile border and more to repair them.

Despite those investments, the Customs and Border Protection agency "cannot measure the contribution of fencing to border security operations along the southwest border because it has not developed metrics for this assessment," the agency said in a 75-page review.

Efforts to better measure success were aborted in 2013 because of a budget showdown between President Barack Obama and Congress, according to the report, which recommends developing new measures to justify more spending.

Trump, speaking at a news conference Thursday, reiterated plans for a wall with Mexico — one of his signature campaign pledges — and promised to negotiate a lower price.

Border Patrol leaders have struggled to say with any degree of precision how well fences work, in part because it's unknown how many people get away. Another unknown is the extent to which fences or other factors such as the number of agents explain why people are caught.

The GAO estimated capture rates in areas with and without fencing but cautioned that no cause-and-effect relationship has been established.

Construction cost estimates have varied widely. The GAO report stuck with its 2009 estimate of an average of $6.5 million a mile for a fence to keep out people on foot and $1.8 million a mile for vehicle blockades. There are currently 354 miles of pedestrian fencing and 300 miles of vehicle barriers.

Republican leaders in Congress have said Trump's wall would cost between $12 billion and $15 billion. Trump has suggested $12 billion.

An internal Homeland Security Department report prepared for Secretary John Kelly estimates the cost of extending the wall along the entire U.S.-Mexico border at about $21 billion, according to a U.S. government official who is involved in border issues. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the report has not been made public.

The Homeland Security report proposes an initial phase that would extend fences 26 miles and a second wave that would add 151 miles, plus 272 "replacement" miles where fences are already installed, according to the official. Those two phases would cost $5 billion.

Half of illegal immigrants in the US entered the country legally- not by sneaking across our southern border.