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afwjam
03-05-2017, 02:44 PM
President Donald Trump has proposed dramatic increases in defense spending, but his amplified budget could also slash $1.3 billion from the US Coast Guard's quota.
On Thursday, Trump stepped on board the soon-to-be commissioned aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R. Ford, to promote his plan for rebuilding the military. Trump has stated that he plans to add a “historic” $54 billion, or a 10 percent budget increase, to the Department of Defense.

In order to pay for the increase, Trump’s proposed budget would slice the same amount from non-defense spending and the US Coast Guard.
The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is proposing to cut roughly $1.3 billion from the Coast Guard, or 10 percent of the 2017 $10 billion budget.
In a letter to the president, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-California) warned that such steep cuts could cripple what he considers an already underfunded military branch, leaving Americans less safe.
“It’s nonsensical to pursue a policy of rebuilding the Armed Forces while proposing large reductions to the U.S. Coast Guard budget,” wrote Hunter, who sits on the House Armed Services Committee, according to the Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/2/trump-rapped-inattention-lack-funding-coast-guard/).
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https://cdn.rt.com/files/2017.03/thumbnail/58b87505c36188955a8b465c.jpgTrump promotes military buildup aboard next-gen aircraft carrier (https://www.rt.com/usa/379246-trump-gerald-ford-military-rebuild/)
“Such a drastic reduction in Coast Guard funding would not only diminish the Coast Guard’s standing and mission next to its service counterparts, it would severely undermine U.S. national security,” Hunter added.
Currently, the Coast Guard protects the 95,000 (https://www.dhs.gov/blog/2013/04/04/dhs-10-us-coast-guard) miles of American coastline, as well as 4.5 million square miles of ocean.
Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Department of Homeland Security authorized greater powers to the Coast Guard, including protecting the ports, guarding against terrorism, human trafficking, drug smuggling, and aiding the military in countering threats.
The proposed budget for 2018 would also eliminate funding for a $640 million state-of-the-art Coast Guard cutter ship that is a priority for Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee Thad Cochran (R-Mississippi).
"There are responsible ways to reduce spending," Stephen Worley, a spokesman for Cochran, said, according to the Associated Press (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_COAST_GUARD_CUTTER). "Weakening our nation's first line of defense against drug cartels and human trafficking isn't one of them."
The problem is the ship was already approved (http://www.cochran.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=9c0c7454-b6c1-404d-8c37-6e9b1e2778a5) and is currently being built by Ingalls Shipbuilding at its shipyard in Pascagoula, Mississippi.

Ingalls Shipbuilding authenticates the keel of @USCG (https://twitter.com/USCG) National Security Cutter #MidgettNSC8 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MidgettNSC8?src=hash)https://t.co/8ZpMHTATe1pic.twitter.com/D2OKTcVmx3 (https://t.co/D2OKTcVmx3)
— Huntington Ingalls (@HIIndustries) January 27, 2017 (https://twitter.com/HIIndustries/status/825092458740666368)
Beci Branton, a spokesperson for Ingalls, said in an email that "We have already purchased long-lead materials and have begun production," according to the Associated Press.
Republican Senator Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) is also wary of Trump’s new budget proposal, and has said it will be “dead on arrival.”
“It's not going to happen,” said Graham, according to NBC News. “It would be a disaster."






does the coast gaurd not help to protect our borders? Sounds like he wants to fund more offense but cut defense. Backwards.

Zippyjuan
03-05-2017, 03:07 PM
Turf wars starting. He will have a hard time getting all his program ideas and budget cuts through Congress. Coast Guard interdicts traffic at sea -whether that is humans (illegal immigrants) or drugs besides rescuing people at sea. I guess the wall is not about stopping immigrants and drugs if he is making it easier to bring them in via other routes.

Keith and stuff
03-05-2017, 10:35 PM
Excellent! This is what we have all wanted for years. I sure everyone is very happy about this great news! :)

Anti Federalist
03-05-2017, 10:40 PM
Coast Guard are cops.

Won't break my heart to see them get less money.

oyarde
03-05-2017, 11:09 PM
Coast Guard are cops.

Won't break my heart to see them get less money.

Pretty much , nautical police force . Worse than the Border Patrol people from what I have seen .

oyarde
03-05-2017, 11:23 PM
Probably time to really rethink how resources are used . Is the Coast Guard redundant in swaths of places due to coastal sheriff departments and game wardens or other agencies already patrolling waters ?

surf
03-05-2017, 11:44 PM
Turf wars starting. He will have a hard time getting all his program ideas and budget cuts through Congress. Coast Guard interdicts traffic at sea -whether that is humans (illegal immigrants) or drugs besides rescuing people at sea. I guess the wall is not about stopping immigrants and drugs if he is making it easier to bring them in via other routes.isn't this the only branch of the military that doesn't kill a lot of people in other parts of the world? i'm not sure when the last naval attack on the US was, so they must be doing an ok job.

take the 10% from the killers.

Keith and stuff
03-06-2017, 02:21 AM
isn't this the only branch of the military that doesn't kill a lot of people in other parts of the world? i'm not sure when the last naval attack on the US was, so they must be doing an ok job.


I don't know about kill but the CG was deployed to Iraq. Every branch serves in war/warish activities. But when they aren't serving, they are keeping the price of drugs high in the U.S. so drug dealers and gangs make more profits, preventing Cubans from fleeing Communist Cuba, preventing Americans from visiting light houses, and saving people in lakes and the oceans.

This is a really good start, but obviously the federal government should (but won't) be cut almost everywhere.

surf
03-06-2017, 01:06 PM
I don't know about kill but the CG was deployed to Iraq. Every branch serves in war/warish activities. But when they aren't serving, they are keeping the price of drugs high in the U.S. so drug dealers and gangs make more profits, preventing Cubans from fleeing Communist Cuba, preventing Americans from visiting light houses, and saving people in lakes and the oceans.

This is a really good start, but obviously the federal government should (but won't) be cut almost everywhere.don't get me wrong, i'm for gutting everything, but my priorities are the war machine. the coast guard gave me a ticket on Lk Washington several years ago (choppy day going to hydro races, sped up to keep water from going over the bow... "speeding" ticket). they inspected the boat and made me feel privileged that they accepted a cooler to be a "bailing bucket."

now that you got me thinking back... cut the crap out of their budget.

bunklocoempire
03-06-2017, 01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayBez0kjc94

Lingle's "unified command", order followers.

donnay
03-06-2017, 01:26 PM
Good, I hope they keep reducing the Billions.

TheCount
03-06-2017, 01:55 PM
Good, I hope they keep reducing the Billions.They aren't reducing anything.

What they are doing, however, is exposing the blatant farce that is Trump's supposed defensive/protective buildup of the Department of Defense. If the intent was to build a military to secure our borders, obviously the Coast Guard would receive a share of that increased funding. By instead diverting money for the offensive forces, it makes clear the administration's intent as to the use of the nation's military forces, and it sure as hell is not defensive.

Athan
03-06-2017, 01:56 PM
*chuckle*

I'm sorry. I shouldn't, I know. But lol

donnay
03-06-2017, 02:04 PM
They aren't reducing anything.

What they are doing, however, is exposing the blatant farce that is Trump's supposed defensive/protective buildup of the Department of Defense. If the intent was to build a military to secure our borders, obviously the Coast Guard would receive a share of that increased funding. By instead diverting money for the offensive forces, it makes clear the administration's intent as to the use of the nation's military forces, and it sure as hell is not defensive.

Then you aren't paying attention.

45 days in...

The President doesn't even take a salary.
Freezed hiring of government jobs
EPA reduction
Cut Coast guard budget

TheCount
03-06-2017, 02:45 PM
The President doesn't even take a salary.


He spends more than his annual salary every time he travels to Mar-A-Lago. (http://fortune.com/2017/02/22/trump-security-mar-a-lago-cost-taxpayers/)



Freezed hiring of government jobs

Except for adding 10k new ICE agents (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/02/20/dhs-authorizes-hiring-10k-immigration-officers/) (tripling the size of the agency) and 5K new CBP agents (http://nypost.com/2017/01/25/trump-calls-for-major-boost-in-border-patrol-and-immigration-agents/) and 16k more Soldiers and 3k more Marines (http://www.defensenews.com/articles/senate-ndaa-passes-atandl-end-strength-military).



EPA reduction

Supposedly, in a draft budget that hasn't been proposed yet and the administration won't talk about.


Cut Coast guard budgetMoved some money from the Coast Guard to elsewhere in the DOD, while increasing spending in the DOD 10% or $54 billion (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/trump-seeks-sharp-increases-military-spending-drastic-cuts-state-department-epa). For reference, that is the cost of 6 and a half EPAs (https://www.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget), or more than the budget of the entire State Department and all foreign assistance combined (https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/pl/252281.htm).

asurfaholic
03-06-2017, 02:56 PM
He spends more than his annual salary every time he travels to Mar-A-Lago. (http://fortune.com/2017/02/22/trump-security-mar-a-lago-cost-taxpayers/)



Except for adding 10k new ICE agents (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/02/20/dhs-authorizes-hiring-10k-immigration-officers/) (tripling the size of the agency) and 5K new CBP agents (http://nypost.com/2017/01/25/trump-calls-for-major-boost-in-border-patrol-and-immigration-agents/) and 16k more Soldiers and 3k more Marines (http://www.defensenews.com/articles/senate-ndaa-passes-atandl-end-strength-military).



Supposedly, in a draft budget that hasn't been proposed yet and the administration won't talk about.

Moved some money from the Coast Guard to elsewhere in the DOD, while increasing spending in the DOD 10% or $54 billion (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-27/trump-seeks-sharp-increases-military-spending-drastic-cuts-state-department-epa). For reference, that is the cost of 6 and a half EPAs (https://www.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget), or more than the budget of the entire State Department and all foreign assistance combined (https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/pl/252281.htm).

And what about "The Wall ™"??

TheCount
03-06-2017, 03:52 PM
And what about "The Wall ™"??I'm trying to keep it just to things that have already been decided and that there's a cost figure for. If you take it to the realm of hopes and dreams there's an endless quantity of money that Trump has said he's going to either spend or cut.

However, if the wall actually happens that's another 4 EPAs worth of spending.