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Jan2017
02-28-2017, 08:52 AM
Trump will give architects just five days to submit proposals for a Mexican border wall

Last week, the Department of Homeland Security issued an open call for designs – but architects have just five days to submit their proposals.

. . . submissions open soon, starting on March 6th and closing on March 10th.
The administration plans to choose a set of finalists by March 20th and to make final contract awards in mid-April.
http://inhabitat.com/trump-will-give-architects-just-five-days-to-suggest-proposals-for-mexican-border-wall/

otherone
02-28-2017, 08:55 AM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4150/5070491576_32a2c3cf7e_b.jpg

at least the raw material is cheap.

Jan2017
02-28-2017, 01:49 PM
This (contest) winning design - assuming Mexico is on the left - allows US for much easier escape as well.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/donald_trump_borderwall_alternate_design_zpskfq7pj rk.gif (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/donald_trump_borderwall_alternate_design_zpskfq7pj rk.gif.html)

enhanced_deficit
02-28-2017, 01:53 PM
Are Israel's designers allowed to submit wall designs or only those with valid birther certificate can submit design?

They has expertise in beautiful tall walls designs using just the right amount of tax payers monies.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/ed/f1/80edf12a280f1591f805a4005f9d4eab.jpg

TheCount
02-28-2017, 02:12 PM
This (contest) winning design - assuming Mexico is on the left - allows US for much easier escape as well.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/donald_trump_borderwall_alternate_design_zpskfq7pj rk.gif (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/donald_trump_borderwall_alternate_design_zpskfq7pj rk.gif.html)There's a problem with the use of this design across much of the border. It's called the Rio Grande.

CPUd
02-28-2017, 02:23 PM
They better request payment up front

CaptUSA
02-28-2017, 02:26 PM
http://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2014/5498522E-pink-floyd-members-deconstruct-epic-1979-album-the-wall-on-35th-anniversary-inthestudio-interview-part-2-now-online-image.jpg

Zippyjuan
02-28-2017, 02:28 PM
There's a problem with the use of this design across much of the border. It's called the Rio Grande.

Don't forget mountains too. Though they have been backing off calling for a complete, solid wall covering the entire border. Build a few miles and declare victory.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/21/yes-trump-will-build-his-border-wall-most-of-it-is-already-built/?utm_term=.7b45ffd85f80


Yes, Trump will build his border wall. Most of it is already built.

<snip>
Much of the wall has already been built

Since the early 1990s, politicians of all stripes have scrambled to show their commitment to border security. During that time, annual federal funding for border and immigration control mushroomed from $1.5 billion to $19.5 billion. According to one estimate, Washington spends $5 billion more on border and immigration control than for all other federal law enforcement combined.

And the result? Hundreds of miles of metal barriers have gone up. Technologies initially developed for the military have been adapted for border enforcement. A fleet of manned and unmanned aircraft have been deployed to monitor from the air. Thousands of new agents have been hired. The size of the Border Patrol doubled in the 1990s and has more than doubled again since the beginning of the century, from about 4,000 personnel to more than 21,000.

This massive enforcement buildup has been lethal for many migrants trying to cross, with thousands of deaths to date, while enriching the smugglers on whom migrants must rely. As I showed in my book “Border Games: Policing the U.S. Mexico Divide,” it has been politically rewarding for both Democrats and Republicans alike. Trump is simply taking it to the next level.

Trump has dismissed the current state of border security as “a joke,” but he’ll soon find that the bipartisan border policing boom started in the 1990s will be crucial to keeping his wall pledge. Trump’s plan calls for a wall that covers 1,000 miles of the nearly 2,000-mile-long border — with natural obstacles covering the remainder. Nearly 700 miles of various types of border fencing are already in place, and portions of it very much look like a formidable metal wall. It is hard to imagine Trump tearing all that fencing up and starting from scratch.

What’s much more realistic is that Trump will simply add more miles of fencing; reinforce existing fencing in key, visible places; and deploy even more border guards, stadium lighting, and the latest high-tech detection and surveillance equipment. The newest, tallest part of the Trump Wall — probably erected at one of the most visible, urban spots on the border — would be an effective backdrop for the president’s celebratory news conference announcing its construction.

In the end, Trump’s wall is likely to be the latest addition to the border barrier-building frenzy first launched by President Bill Clinton, greatly expanded by George W. Bush and continued by Obama. But Trump will take full ownership of it as the only president willing to actually call it a wall.

69360
02-28-2017, 04:57 PM
Building this wall will never happen. It would have to be the largest civil engineering feat in US history. 2000 miles of wall 25 feet or whatever high? I don't think that much concrete could even be produced no less placed. For comparison if you live on the east coast, that is Maine to Florida.

dannno
02-28-2017, 05:06 PM
Building this wall will never happen. It would have to be the largest civil engineering feat in US history. 2000 miles of wall 25 feet or whatever high? I don't think that much concrete could even be produced no less placed. For comparison if you live on the east coast, that is Maine to Florida.

Like zip just said, most of it is already built.

Zippyjuan
02-28-2017, 05:06 PM
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-kelly-travel-ban-20170207-story.html


Homeland Security secretary says a border wall won't be built all at once


The nation’s top Homeland Security official portrayed himself Tuesday as a steward of President Trump’s vision for border security as he laid out a path to fruition for some of Trump’s most bombastic campaign promises.

In his first appearance on Capitol Hill, Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly described plans for safeguards along the border that were more piecemeal than the “big, beautiful wall” Trump has touted.

Kelly said his agency would first build sections of wall and fencing where border agents see an immediate need and fill in gaps with ground sensors, surveillance blimps and other technologies that help detect illegal border crossings, emphasizing that the government lives in “a world of finite time [and] resources.”

“We're not going to be able to build a wall everywhere all at once,” Kelly told the House Homeland Security Committee, adding that Border Patrol agents told him they preferred barriers they could see through rather than a solid wall.

69360
02-28-2017, 06:06 PM
Like zip just said, most of it is already built.

No, Trump's original campaign promise was a 20 something foot high concrete wall the whole length of the border. I said then and still say now that it will never be built.

CPUd
02-28-2017, 06:14 PM
Maybe Joey "No Socks" got the hookup on some ready mix.

http://i.imgur.com/PzMz2jl.jpg

TommyJeff
02-28-2017, 06:14 PM
If the government pays people to drive their cars back and forth on the border it will "create" jobs & cause so much global warming at the border that people won't be able to cross the 200 degree line of demarcation. Problem solved; two with one stone.

oyarde
02-28-2017, 06:27 PM
They better request payment up front

I have already asked Mexico for money so I can start on my design .I let them know my design will wall California in with them .

oyarde
02-28-2017, 06:32 PM
Are Israel's designers allowed to submit wall designs or only those with valid birther certificate can submit design?

They has expertise in beautiful tall walls designs using just the right amount of tax payers monies.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/ed/f1/80edf12a280f1591f805a4005f9d4eab.jpg

Must bot have been 11.8 feet where I was .I could get a long jump type running start and grab the top and pull myself up .

phill4paul
02-28-2017, 06:49 PM
That's Washington, DC in the center........

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/0/01/7728.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120601222955

showpan
02-28-2017, 07:25 PM
Most of it is not already built...lol....there is still 1300 miles left open...lol...he's asking for bids but he doesn't even own the land yet and the GOP won't fund it until he cuts the rest of what they want him to cut. In many places the road needed to build, patrol and maintain whatever he builds will cost more than the wall itself.

The U.S. government owns just 100 miles of the 1,254 miles of border land in Texas alone...lol

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-02-17/jeb-bush-mocks-donald-trumps-border-wall-troubles

Jan2017
03-01-2017, 08:14 AM
Building this wall will never happen. It would have to be the largest civil engineering feat in US history. 2000 miles of wall 25 feet or whatever high? I don't think that much concrete could even be produced no less placed. For comparison if you live on the east coast, that is Maine to Florida.

About 600 miles is proposed as I understand . . . with Arizona border taking up 389 miles.

Work already in Sunland Park, NM :

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/Mexico-Trump-6_zpsosla18tt.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/Mexico-Trump-6_zpsosla18tt.jpg.html)

69360
03-01-2017, 11:30 AM
About 600 miles is proposed as I understand . . . with Arizona border taking up 389 miles.

Work already in Sunland Park, NM :

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/Mexico-Trump-6_zpsosla18tt.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/Mexico-Trump-6_zpsosla18tt.jpg.html)

That's not concrete.

TheCount
03-01-2017, 11:33 AM
That's not concrete.It's also not big or beautiful.

Jan2017
03-01-2017, 12:13 PM
That's not concrete.

It's also not big or beautiful.

A fence still might work in some places.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/sunland04_zpspt5szo3i.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/sunland04_zpspt5szo3i.jpg.html)


http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/sunlandramp%20truck_zps5h5qzkbj.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/sunlandramp%20truck_zps5h5qzkbj.jpg.html)