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undergroundrr
02-22-2017, 03:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQQhzWz2E38

Who won?
goldenequity
02-22-2017, 04:30 PM
As I remember the ping pong debate... from watching last night...
I think the winning point was in Tucker's favor
and not successfully countered by the CATO dude/lobbyist
that:
the 'average' immigrant 'family' of 5,6,7 etc. was low income and
(because of welfare/entitlements) was a 'net drain' on economy.
He never really conceded the issue
but 'jumped' at the chance to 'agree' that 'no welfare' was the best answer.
undergroundrr
02-22-2017, 04:50 PM
As I remember the ping pong debate... from watching last night...
I think the winning point was in Tucker's favor
and not successfully countered by the CATO dude/lobbyist
that:
the 'average' immigrant 'family' of 5,6,7 etc. was low income and
(because of welfare/entitlements) was a 'net drain' on economy.
He never really conceded the issue
but 'jumped' at the chance to 'agree' that 'no welfare' was the best answer.

That's true. Although I wouldn't say it was the clincher, it was Nowrasteh's toughest point to counter. He essentially said that all immigrants come in low income, but their kids end up with good jobs and paying in more than they take. That still doesn't comfort people who think something. must. be. done. now.

I was a little surprised at how aghast Carlson was at some of the data points. For about the first 2/3 of the interview, it was like he'd never heard a pro-immigration argument before. He just kind of changed the subject when it was presented that Mexicans were third in quantity behind Chinese and Indian immigrants. Tucker eventually wore down Nowrasteh's patience by talking over him.
NewRightLibertarian
02-22-2017, 05:01 PM
The CATO stooge wants to keep the borders open so the Koch Bros have cheap labor to exploit. Happy to see him get cucked by Tuck!
undergroundrr
02-22-2017, 05:09 PM
The CATO stooge wants to keep the borders open so the Koch Bros have cheap labor to exploit. Happy to see him get cucked by Tuck!

I don't know of a business that doesn't strive to keep labor costs low.
NewRightLibertarian
02-22-2017, 06:31 PM
I don't know of a business that doesn't strive to keep labor costs low.

I know Koch Bros are very adept businessmen. I just like when their paid-off hacks spread propaganda on national TV, that's all.
timosman
02-22-2017, 07:40 PM
Immigrants Don’t Grow Government - https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-dont-grow-government