Far More Democrats Consider Russia An Enemy

[Brian4Liberty]

Democrats fear war, but want to start one with Russia...

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Poll: Majority of Americans Worried About War, Feel Favorably Toward NATO (http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/data-points/poll-majority-americans-worried-about-war-feel-favorably-toward-nato-n723931)
by Hannah Hartig, John Lapinski and Stephanie Perry


Nearly two-thirds of Americans, divided sharply along party lines, are worried that the United States will become engaged in a major war in the next four years, according to results from the latest NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll.

A plurality, 36 percent, are very worried about the United States' becoming engaged in a major war in the next four years, while 30 percent are somewhat worried. A quarter are not too worried, and just 8 percent are not at all worried.

While the vast majority of Democrats and Democratic-leaning Americans say they are worried (88 percent), Republicans and Republican-leaners are much less worried. About 4 in 10 say they are worried about a major war, while 60 percent say they are not worried.
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Russia has continued to be in the spotlight as former national security adviser Michael Flynn resigned last week after controversy over his contact with Russian diplomats.

While Trump has argued that better relations with Russia would be positive for the United States, most Americans see Russia as adversarial.
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Overall, Republicans and Republican-leaners are split on whether they think Russia is friendly or an ally (50 percent), while 49 percent think Russia is unfriendly or an enemy of the United States. Democrats and Democratic-leaners think the opposite — 75 percent consider Russia to be unfriendly or an enemy.

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More: http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/data-points/poll-majority-americans-worried-about-war-feel-favorably-toward-nato-n723931

[seapilot]

Are these the same people that held No more Nukes signs and hate the military?

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/files/2011/04/1112_no-nukes.jpg

[Zippyjuan]

Democrats fear war, but want to start one with Russia...

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Poll: Majority of Americans Worried About War, Feel Favorably Toward NATO (http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/data-points/poll-majority-americans-worried-about-war-feel-favorably-toward-nato-n723931)
by Hannah Hartig, John Lapinski and Stephanie Perry

"Worried about war" is not the same as "want war". But if you are "worried about war" maybe you try harder to avoid one. Half of Republicans also view Russia as a threat as does much of Trump's defense/ national security team.


Overall, 61 percent of Americans consider Russia unfriendly or an enemy of the United States. Only 7 percent consider Russia to be an ally, and 28 percent consider the country friendly but not an ally.

[seapilot]

"Worried about war" is not the same as "want war". Half of Republicans also view Russia as a threat as does much of Trump's defense/ national security team.

Wonder if those democrats would want the current president to pursue peace with Russia or provoke them putting tanks on their border like the last one did.

[Zippyjuan]

If Obama really wanted war with Russia why didn't he start one? Moving troops is not necessarily an offensive action unless you move them across somebody's border uninvited. They can be defensive moves as well.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.russia-direct.org/opinion/why-new-us-military-buildup-europe-doesnt-yet-worry-russia


Why the new US military buildup in Europe doesn't yet worry Russia

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Oddly enough, such an approach of Trump doesn’t bring about concerns within the Kremlin, at least because Russia itself is stepping up its military buildup close to Europe. It maintains a troop contingent of 330,000 people in the western part of the country, close to the Baltic countries, Poland and Romania. Moreover, Moscow is extensively reforming and reequipping its army while paying a great deal of attention to the country’s nuclear potential and missile systems.

Thus, approximately 10,000-15,000 American soldiers scattered along NATO’s eastern borders don’t pose a serious threat to Russia.

[seapilot]

There are many ways to provoke people and countries without outright fighting war.

I think many people here would feel threatened if Russia parked a bunch of tanks and missile launchers on the Mexican border with Texas. I am sure the Pentagon and media would calmly recognize its only for defensive measures, like the US tanks on the Russian border.

[Zippyjuan]

There are many ways to provoke people and countries without outright fighting war.

I think many people here would feel threatened if Russia parked a bunch of tanks and missile launchers on the Mexican border with Texas. I am sure the Pentagon and media would calmly recognize its only for defensive measures, like the US tanks on the Russian border.

I think Mexico might have something to say about that if they tried. US troops were invited to be placed in those countries because Russia has 30 times as many men and equipment along that border which is making the citizens of Poland and the Baltics nervous which is why they requested more NATO forces- who is positioned more aggressively? The 10,000 or the 300,000?

[RonPaulMall]

If Obama really wanted war with Russia why didn't he start one? Moving troops is not necessarily an offensive action unless you move them across somebody's border uninvited. They can be defensive moves as well.

He imposed sanctions on Russia, fomented an anti-Russian coup in the Ukraine, and massed troops on their border. Invading Russia is a non-starter because Russia will respond with nuclear weapons. The goal is a conventional war in Eastern Europe that provides an endless stream of revenue for the M.I. Complex while conveniently exterminating the last white nations in Europe.

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/Ho3jDqL.png

[Zippyjuan]

He imposed sanctions on Russia, fomented an anti-Russian coup in the Ukraine, and massed troops on their border. Invading Russia is a non-starter because Russia will respond with nuclear weapons. The goal is a conventional war in Eastern Europe that provides an endless stream of revenue for the M.I. Complex while conveniently exterminating the last white nations in Europe.

Obama will be getting started on that war any day now.

[shakey1]

We'd likely be well on our way to war had Clinton won the race.

[openfire]

Gallup Finds Americans' Hostility To Russia Soared After Obama's 2012 Re-Election


What is especially important to note regarding the plunge in Americans’ approval-rating for Russia is that it didn’t occur only after, but started well before, those events in Ukraine in 2014; it started at the very end of Obama’s first term, in 2012.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/02/19/20170221_obama2.jpg


Apparently, the ‘news’ coverage of Russia during the years of the plunge, 2012-2016, was somehow becoming progressively more and more unfavorable, in preparation for the 2014 Ukrainian coup and its aftermath of economic sanctions and the positioning of increasing numbers of U.S. troops and missiles on and near Russia’s borders. The U.S. government even publicly celebrated its propaganda-success.

Manipulating the public in a ‘democracy’ has become so much of a science, so that a person can reasonably doubt whether democracy, in even the limited extents to which it has existed in the past, possesses any realistic meaning in today’s world — or (if so) what meaning.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-21/gallup-finds-americans-hostility-russia-soared-after-obamas-2012-re-election

^ Based on the above, it's pretty clear that the reason that more libtards hate Russia is because they've just been subjected to 4 straight years of being told exactly what to think (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?507853-MSNBC-Anchor-quot-Our-Job-quot-Is-To-quot-Control-Exactly-What-People-Think-quot) on deep state propaganda outlets like CNN, MSNBC, etc. And since it was "Obama's" foreign policy, they don't question the validity of the policy or the underlying (lack of) justification. They do, say and think exactly as they're told.

[opal]

public school
smh

[phill4paul]

If Obama really wanted war with Russia why didn't he start one? Moving troops is not necessarily an offensive action unless you move them across somebody's border uninvited. They can be defensive moves as well.

I wasn't aware the U.S. had borders in Europe. Why do we have troops there?

[Zippyjuan]

I wasn't aware the U.S. had borders in Europe. Why do we have troops there?

The troops sent recently were at the request of the host countries. They were concerned about Russian military activities on the other side of their borders. http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/05/14/baltic-nations-request-permanent-nato-troop-presence.html


Baltic Nations Request Permanent NATO Troop Presence

VILNIUS, Lithuania -- The three Baltic countries -- Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania -- are asking NATO to permanently deploy ground troops to their nations as a deterrent against an increasingly assertive Russia.

The countries' defense chiefs requested a brigade-size unit of NATO troops -- one battalion of 700-800 troops in each country -- in a joint letter this week to the supreme allied commander in Europe, said Capt. Mindaugas Neimontas, a spokesman for Lithuania's chief of defense.

"It is necessary because of the security situation," Neimontas told The Associated Press on Thursday. "It's not getting better in our region, so it will be a deterrent."

The Baltic countries -- former Soviet republics that regained independence amid the collapse of the Soviet Union over two decades ago -- have been alarmed by Moscow's intervention in Ukraine and the increasing activity of Russian forces in the Baltic Sea.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10737838/Ukraine-crisis-Poland-asks-Nato-to-station-10000-troops-on-its-territory.html


Ukraine crisis: Poland asks Nato to station 10,000 troops on its territory

Poland asked Nato to station 10,000 troops on its territory on Tuesday as a visible demonstration of the Alliance's resolve to defend all its members after Russia's seizure of Crimea.

Nato foreign ministers met in Brussels to consider requests for soldiers to be deployed in Poland and the Baltic States, all of which share borders with Russia.

Nato generals and admirals have been ordered to devise ways to better protect alliance members that feel threatened by Russia, and "all practical civilian and military cooperation" with Russia.

[phill4paul]

The troops sent recently were at the request of the host countries. They were concerned about Russian military activities on the other side of their borders.

Wow. Host countries? Is this like a sleep over? Are they providing the soda and hot pockets?

[Zippyjuan]

Wow. Host countries? Is this like a sleep over?

Kinda. It is having a few friends over. Except not as much fun. And no smores.

[phill4paul]

Kinda. It is having a few friends over. Except not as much fun. And no smores.

Then obviously the correct answer is that we should not be there. At all.

[UWDude]

If Obama really wanted war with Russia why didn't he start one?

Ukraine was a silent declaration of war, and Syria a tricky one, but a declaration all the same. russia is no dummy, and doesn't fall for US propaganda, or coups, or narratives about freedom fighters in Syria. Clearly Obama tried to snatch Putin nuts, (his warm port navy), and Putin yanked his balls out of the way. But don't even tell me Obama was just trying to straighten a pube for Putin

[UWDude]

Time for another truth bomb for your mentors, Zip.
You let them know that they can push all the fake polls they want. American opinion is becoming so fractured, it will be very hard for there ever to be a unified message or unified enemy. Even today, many people secretly admire ISIS, even if they aren't Muslim. Your pencilhead brainstorming brainiacs took too much of their own hype sauce, and stopped working decades ago, instead deciding reality could be played out on facebook, and slowly inching away from the core of their jobs, to find the truth, because you need the truth to know what to do next. Instead it became all about persuasion, so much so that your knobheads and yes-men stopped producing tangible statistics. What is even mor ehilarious, is your mentors have strayed so far away from the truth, they can;t even figure out the turth about their persuasion techniques anymore. The fact they still pump out propagnada videos first fashioned in the early 2000's with celebrities talking to the camera shows just how far behind the curve they are. They have gone from being ineffective, TO BEING SELF DESTRUCTIVE. It's late stage Soviet Union all over again.

And instead of trying to find at least a foundation of truth, to rebuild the tower of lies upon, your idiots keep doubling down on negative persuasion. With videos of anrgy people yelling at the viewer, or lecturing them like they were bad children.

Yet you all will be the ones gettting the spanking of a lifetime. And by lifetime, I mean lifetime.

[enhanced_deficit]

It probably has to do with Russian UN vote against Israeli settlements/palestinian occupation and Russian support for Israel's enemies like Syria, Iran, Benghazi etc.

[Chomp]

Both parties are the true enemies of America.

[Brian4Liberty]

Ron Paul discusses the poll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoSNH9mYWUE

Ron Paul: "It's also naive to believe that Democrats are the party of peace".

"The mainstream Democrats have made common cause with the neocons".

[Mordan]

Time for another truth bomb for your mentors, Zip.
You let them know that they can push all the fake polls they want. American opinion is becoming so fractured, it will be very hard for there ever to be a unified message or unified enemy. Even today, many people secretly admire ISIS, even if they aren't Muslim. Your pencilhead brainstorming brainiacs took too much of their own hype sauce, and stopped working decades ago, instead deciding reality could be played out on facebook, and slowly inching away from the core of their jobs, to find the truth, because you need the truth to know what to do next. Instead it became all about persuasion, so much so that your knobheads and yes-men stopped producing tangible statistics. What is even mor ehilarious, is your mentors have strayed so far away from the truth, they can;t even figure out the turth about their persuasion techniques anymore. The fact they still pump out propagnada videos first fashioned in the early 2000's with celebrities talking to the camera shows just how far behind the curve they are. They have gone from being ineffective, TO BEING SELF DESTRUCTIVE. It's late stage Soviet Union all over again.

And instead of trying to find at least a foundation of truth, to rebuild the tower of lies upon, your idiots keep doubling down on negative persuasion. With videos of anrgy people yelling at the viewer, or lecturing them like they were bad children.

Yet you all will be the ones gettting the spanking of a lifetime. And by lifetime, I mean lifetime.

LOL.
+1. Dude is my favorite in your face poster here.