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CPUd
02-09-2017, 12:50 AM
Trump beats Obama and Bush in race to the golf course


President Barack Obama made it four months into his presidency before his first golf outing as commander in chief. George W. Bush made it even longer, first hitting the links as president about 5 ½ months into his first term.

Donald Trump made it two weeks before heading to the golf course.

On his first vacation as president to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, Trump spent about eight hours at the Trump International Golf Club last Saturday and Sunday. And he will be taking his clubs out again for more golfing this weekend, as he is scheduled to play with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

A senior White House official declined to say with whom Trump spent time on the links last weekend, after aides had declined over the weekend to provide details about the president's outing. He stayed at the club about the length of time it usually takes to play 18 holes. This person said Trump was looking forward to his round of golf with Abe this weekend.

Trips to the golf course have long been a presidential tradition, and it is no surprise that Trump, who regularly touts his ownership of golf courses around the world and his own golfing talents, would gamely carry it on. He even landed on the cover of a special issue of Golf Digest with the title “Golfer in Chief.” And during the transition, Trump evaded reporters to sneak in a private round in Florida.

But his enthusiastic embrace of the sport comes after he spent years mocking Obama for his own habit.

“Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter,” Trump wrote on Twitter in October 2014.

“While our wonderful president was out playing golf all day, the TSA is falling apart, just like our government! Airports a total disaster!” Trump tweeted last May.

In September 2014, Trump offered Obama “free lifetime golf at any one of my courses” if the president would resign immediately.

Of course, criticism of a president’s golfing habits is a bipartisan affair. George W. Bush was criticized for issuing remarks condemning terrorist attacks while in the middle of a game of golf, following it up with, “Now watch this drive.” He gave up golfing in 2003 to be “in solidarity” with the families of troops at war, he said.

But in 2013, Bush defended Obama’s golf outings.

“I see our president criticized for playing golf. I don't. I think he ought to play golf,” Bush told the Golf Channel. “I know what it's like to be in the bubble. I know the pressures of the job, and to be able to get outside and play golf with some of your pals is important for the president. It does give you an outlet. ... I think it's good for the president to be out playing golf.”

In September 2012, perhaps before Trump’s own presidential ambitions were so strong, he offered Obama some advice on how to better use his time on the course.

“Obama should play golf with Republicans & opponents rather than his small group of friends. That way maybe the terrible gridlock would end,” Trump wrote.

“Playing golf with business associates creates a relaxing atmosphere where everyone has fun,” Trump wrote on Twitter in 2013. “‘That’s why so many huge deals are closed on a golf course.’” He labeled the observation “TRUMP 101.”

Trump also talked up the virtues of business on fairways in an interview with Golf magazine six years ago that called him the “No. 1 Business Titan.”

“I've closed many deals on the golf course, and I've met many great friends on the golf course—Terry Lundgren, the head of Macy's, for example—and so many people in the real estate industry whom I wouldn't have a relationship with if it weren't for golf,” Trump said. “You learn about people on the golf course, about their temperament, their honesty.”

In the interview, he also gave some indication of how he behaves while golfing, and whether his penchant for insult-slinging has a place on the course.

“Sure, I'll talk trash on the course, although it depends on whom I'm playing with. Some people don't want to hear trash on the course—they like to play what I call 'elegant golf.' Other people would get bored stiff with that style. You have to know your opponent,” he said.

But even as Obama and Trump both proved eager to escape the Oval Office for the freedom of the golf course, one difference between the two has already emerged. The Obama White House would regularly release the names of people who joined Obama on the course — letting the public know whether it was John Boehner or Stephen Curry, Bill Clinton or Tiger Woods tagging along. The Trump White House has so far declined to announce Trump’s golfing partners, despite repeated inquiries from reporters.

Trump has had his fair share of famous golfing partners, including Clinton, Woods and Tom Brady, who, according to Trump’s former campaign manager, cannot beat Trump at golf.

Trump is quick to talk up his golfing abilities — “Those hands can hit a golf ball 285 yards,” he said at a campaign event after Sen. Marco Rubio criticized the size of his hands — as well as the grandeur of his courses and the names of those who joined him on the course. But for now the president’s golf partners remain a mystery.

When it comes to one golf record, the notoriously competitive Trump may have trouble matching his predecessor. According to records kept by CBS’ Mark Knoller, who also recorded the dates of the presidents’ first golf trips in office, Obama put 333 rounds under his belt during his time in office. That works out to about one round of golf every eight or nine days.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-first-visit-golf-course-234729

timosman
02-09-2017, 12:53 AM
They sure play a lot of golf. But I do not think they play 18 holes.:cool:

CPUd
02-09-2017, 01:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4O85GbC.jpg

timosman
02-09-2017, 01:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4O85GbC.jpg

Trump works for PGA - http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/oppose-golfs-partnership

CPUd
02-09-2017, 01:14 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ol6fht9.jpg

dannno
02-09-2017, 01:16 AM
Is there anything Trump doesn't win at?

CPUd
02-09-2017, 01:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/xgjQQHj.png

timosman
02-09-2017, 01:29 AM
They own us?:eek:

TheCount
02-09-2017, 04:59 AM
Golf course is a code phrase that means that a sex slave has begun to grow pubic hair and is therefore too old to continue working.

euphemia
02-09-2017, 06:22 AM
Trump has always played golf once a week. I think i have heard Rush mention playing with him.. Golf is a networking kind of sport. Trump and Bush43 are different than Obama. Trump and Bush work hard and work all the time. Obama did not keep office hours for the most part, and was generally mot working on his vacations. Trump and Bush43 worked a lot. There is also the point that Reagan, Bush41, Bush43, and Trump own their own homes and vacation properties, and they would just shift work from Washington to their private homes. Clinton didn't own a home until after he left the White House dead broke, and the Obama only had the home in Chicago where I don't think they lived much after moving to Washington. They have a home in California, I think, and are renting something in Washington for now. Interesting how he did that on $400K a year, and now a pension.

KrokHead
02-09-2017, 06:29 AM
Bush and Obama were both lazy, though Obama was ineffective at getting what he wanted and went on even more vacations than Bush.

Trump playing golf? I don't care, apparently he is working 15 hours a day and getting tons of shit done whether it is good or bad. He may be a shitbrick but he's not lazy.

juleswin
02-09-2017, 06:43 AM
Bush and Obama were both lazy, though Obama was ineffective at getting what he wanted and went on even more vacations than Bush.

Trump playing golf? I don't care, apparently he is working 15 hours a day and getting tons of $#@! done whether it is good or bad. He may be a $#@!brick but he's not lazy.

Between his golf game, taking care of his biological functions and trolling on twitter, I doubt he gets in enough sleep to be able to put in 1 good hour of work. And if you actually believe he put in 15 hrs of work everyday and not trying to troll the thread, then I am very sorry for you cos you level of brainwashing cannot be reversed.

CaseyJones
02-09-2017, 06:45 AM
Make America Golf Again

Jan2017
02-09-2017, 08:08 AM
Make America Golf Again

Eisenhower in times of (relative) peace.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/vactioneisenhower001b_zpsxyfdmmlj.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/vactioneisenhower001b_zpsxyfdmmlj.jpg.html)


Wonder how soon when Trump golfs with former President Obama

Rothbardian Girl
02-09-2017, 10:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ol6fht9.jpg
Where are his clubs?

enhanced_deficit
02-09-2017, 11:14 AM
Is there anything Trump doesn't win at?

He can't beat DGP in style.

http://xtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/obama_2641341c.jpg

timosman
02-09-2017, 11:17 AM
Where are his clubs?

Busted! :cool:

CPUd
02-09-2017, 11:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/EnXN0P5.png

juleswin
02-09-2017, 11:19 AM
He can't beat DGP in style.

http://xtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/obama_2641341c.jpg

You better start numbering your DGP, I have a hard time telling which one you are talking about, is it Bush, Obama or Trump?

enhanced_deficit
02-09-2017, 11:27 AM
Maybe you can help with numbering, Messiah should be DGP1 because of Nobel Peace Prize?

CPUd
02-09-2017, 11:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/ioOwGoh.jpg

angelatc
02-09-2017, 11:47 AM
Trump beats Obama and Bush in race to the golf course

So much #winning!

klamath
02-09-2017, 12:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ioOwGoh.jpg Suspose that is why Saudi is not on the banned list?.... Drain that swamp.

Jamesiv1
02-09-2017, 12:52 PM
Obama put 333 rounds under his belt during his time in office. That works out to about one round of golf every eight or nine days.
lol

Trump does business on the golf course, Obama slacks off on the golf course.

big difference.

TommyJeff
02-09-2017, 01:08 PM
Where are his clubs?

Great eye

TommyJeff
02-09-2017, 01:23 PM
He can't beat DGP in style.

http://xtribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/obama_2641341c.jpg

too many sad and negative comments here, but I'm going to have to take a firm no as it relates to style. Is there not a mirror in the WH?

TommyJeff
02-09-2017, 01:24 PM
Is there anything Trump doesn't win at?

Hahaha
+rep

euphemia
02-09-2017, 04:24 PM
Trump's caddy probably has his clubs.

Rothbardian Girl
02-09-2017, 04:37 PM
Great eye
I'm a golfer myself so I noticed that right away. Lol.


Trump's caddy probably has his clubs.
If this is true, then Trump is a jackass for leaving his caddy in the dust to carry them while he zips off in a cart. Hmm.

Zippyjuan
02-09-2017, 04:46 PM
Interesting piece I just found. Especially #4. (That Bush vacation days figure comes to about 2 1/2 years worth or more than one quarter of his time in office)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-presidential-vacations/2014/08/15/2aa969c6-2311-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html?utm_term=.61ac24c7b82e


Five myths about presidential vacations


3. George W. Bush took more vacation days than any other president.

During his eight-year presidency, Bush did take 879 days of vacation, including 77 trips to his Texas ranch. So far, Obama has taken about 150 days off. But our founders were away even more.

During his first two years in office, President John Adams was criticized for making two lengthy trips to his home in Quincy, Mass., taking him away from the capital, which was then Philadelphia, for a total of eight months. Adams left Philadelphia to avoid a yellow-fever outbreak and then to care for his ill wife, Abigail. And his absence came at a time when the United States nearly went to war with France.

Even during the Civil War, historian Matthew Pinsker points out, President Abraham Lincoln spent 25 percent of his time, including fully half of 1862, at the Soldiers’ Home near Washington’s Petworth and Park View neighborhoods. Pinsker says Lincoln especially enjoyed going there on hot days because the cottage where he stayed was shaded and the slightly higher elevation picked up cool breezes absent from the White House.

There seems to be no correlation between vacation days and a president’s legacy. No modern president took less vacation than Jimmy Carter (79 days), while Ronald Reagan spent 335 days at his beloved California ranch. President John F. Kennedy spent nearly every weekend of his shortened presidency at one of his family’s several properties. FDR made 134 trips to Hyde Park and spent an additional six months of his presidency in Warm Springs, Ga., where he treated symptoms of his polio. Roosevelt died of a cerebral hemorrhage while vacationing at Warm Springs on April 12, 1945.

4. Taxpayers foot the bill for presidential vacations.

Presidents pay for their own and their families’ lodging, food and incidentals while on vacation, which may be why they generally prefer to stay at properties they own, as guests of wealthy friends or at the official presidential retreat at Camp David.


But since presidential vacations are always working vacations, taxpayers cover what it takes to keep the commander in chief working. Lodging and meals are an extra cost, but taxpayers pay the salaries of White House staffers and Secret Service agents whether the president stays in Washington or not, so a presidential vacation does not significantly increase personnel costs.

The biggest additional expense is the use of Air Force One and the support aircraft needed to haul all the equipment and ground transportation the president needs. The Congressional Research Service estimated that the cost of operating Air Force One is nearly $180,000 per hour. Ultimately, a presidential vacation can cost taxpayers an additional $1 million or considerably more than if the president had just stayed put in the White House. How significant this is within a $3.5 trillion federal budget is something voters can decide for themselves.

5. Presidents can vacation anywhere.

The controversy over vacations allegedly began with President Gerald R. Ford, who was criticized for vacationing at the upscale Vail Ski Resort in Colorado, while the nation was in a recession.

But exclusive, high-end resorts suit the Secret Service’s needs. The agents like that Martha’s Vineyard is an island, where everyone entering and leaving can be easily tracked. The Secret Service is aware of the most tragic presidential vacation, when James Garfield was preparing to board a train for his first vacation as president in 1881 and was shot by an assassin.

In addition to the security, exclusive resorts are also generally out of reach for average Americans, which means that vacationing presidents aren’t inconveniencing average Americans with their entourages. Worried that relaxing on Martha’s Vineyard made him appear out of touch, Bill Clinton vacationed outside Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming in 1995 and 1996. But locals complained that he was disrupting the tourist season; and Clinton, according to his then-pollster Dick Morris, allegedly “hated” hiking, fishing and camping even if it did help his poll numbers.