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robert68
02-08-2017, 02:17 PM
John Kelly told Congress that Trump’s travel ban may get longer and tougher—and he wants to use big data, blimps, and more to secure the border.


Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly told Congress on Tuesday that “extreme vetting” of immigrants may not be temporary and may get more extreme.

Kelly said new vetting standards under consideration include asking people to hand over their social media passwords—and deny them entry if they refuse.

“How’re you living, who’s sending you money, what websites you visit—anything we can do to get a handle on who these people are,” Kelly told the House Homeland Security Committee.

Kelly also spoke about a recent meeting with the CEO of IBM, saying he plans for DHS to use analysis of big data and social media at the border, in vetting of refugee and visa applicants, and in other national security missions.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/07/homeland-security-secretary-says-passwords-may-be-required-to-enter-u-s.html?via=twitter_page

GunnyFreedom
02-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Well. That's a disturbing precedent. If they require refugee passwords to enter today, then they will require my passwords to return tomorrow.

brushfire
02-08-2017, 02:40 PM
CEO of ibm? Yea, real good source right there.. <not> IBM is struggling to remain relevant - who else do they turn to but government?

Slave Mentality
02-08-2017, 02:42 PM
“How’re you living, who’s sending you money, what websites you visit—anything we can do to get a handle on who these people are,”

Hey, they want to treat them like the locals now! Welcome to freedom bitches.

CPUd
02-08-2017, 03:04 PM
We must do this to keep America safe. We have no choice.

muh_roads
02-08-2017, 03:14 PM
Use the master pass on your password manager, I'm sure you can trust them.

robert68
02-08-2017, 04:34 PM
Well. That's a disturbing precedent. If they require refugee passwords to enter today, then they will require my passwords to return tomorrow.

and to leave.

Zippyjuan
02-08-2017, 06:09 PM
Spreading more Liberty just like he promised.

TheTexan
02-08-2017, 06:11 PM
I have nothing to hide

Suzanimal
02-12-2017, 04:37 PM
Well. That's a disturbing precedent. If they require refugee passwords to enter today, then they will require my passwords to return tomorrow.


A US-born NASA scientist was detained at the border until he unlocked his phone

Two weeks ago, Sidd Bikkannavar flew back into the United States after spending a few weeks abroad in South America. An employee of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Bikkannavar had been on a personal trip, pursuing his hobby of racing solar-powered cars. He had recently joined a Chilean team, and spent the last weeks of January at a race in Patagonia.

Bikkannavar is a seasoned international traveller — but his return home to the US this time around was anything but routine. Bikkannavar left for South America on January 15th, under the Obama Administration. He flew back from Santiago, Chile to the George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, Texas on Monday, January 30th, just over a week into the Trump Administration.

Bikkannavar says he was detained by US Customs and Border Patrol and pressured to give the CBP agents his phone and access PIN. Since the phone was issued by NASA, it may have contained sensitive material that wasn’t supposed to be shared. Bikkannavar’s phone was returned to him after it was searched by CBP, but he doesn’t know exactly what information officials might have taken from the device.

The JPL scientist returned to the US four days after the signing of a sweeping and controversial Executive Order on travel into the country. The travel ban caused chaos at airports across the United States, as people with visas and green cards found themselves detained, or facing deportation. Within days of its signing, the travel order was stayed, but not before more than 60,000 visas were revoked, according to the US State Department.

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Seemingly, Bikkannavar’s reentry into the country should not have raised any flags. Not only is he a natural-born US citizen, but he’s also enrolled in Global Entry — a program through CBP that allows individuals who have undergone background checks to have expedited entry into the country. He hasn’t visited the countries listed in the immigration ban and he has worked at JPL — a major center at a US federal agency — for 10 years. There, he works on “wavefront sensing and control,” a type of optics technology that will be used on the upcoming James Webb Space Telescope.

“I don’t know what to think about this,” Bikkannavar recently told The Verge in a phone call. “...I was caught a little off guard by the whole thing.”

Bikkannavar says he arrived into Houston early Tuesday morning, and was detained by CBP after his passport was scanned. A CBP officer escorted Bikkannavar to a back room, and told him to wait for additional instructions. About five other travelers who had seemingly been affected by the ban were already in the room, asleep on cots that were provided for them.

About 40 minutes went by before an officer appeared and called Bikkannavar’s name. “He takes me into an interview room and sort of explains that I’m entering the country and they need to search my possessions to make sure I’m not bringing in anything dangerous,” he says. The CBP officer started asking questions about where Bikkannavar was coming from, where he lives, and his title at work. It’s all information the officer should have had since Bikkannavar is enrolled in Global Entry. “I asked a question, ‘Why was I chosen?’ And he wouldn’t tell me,” he says.

The officer also presented Bikkannavar with a document titled “Inspection of Electronic Devices” and explained that CBP had authority to search his phone. Bikkannavar did not want to hand over the device, because it was given to him by JPL and is technically NASA property. He even showed the officer the JPL barcode on the back of phone. Nonetheless, CBP asked for the phone and the access PIN. “I was cautiously telling him I wasn’t allowed to give it out, because I didn’t want to seem like I was not cooperating,” says Bikkannavar. “I told him I’m not really allowed to give the passcode; I have to protect access. But he insisted they had the authority to search it.”

Courts have upheld customs agents' power to manually search devices at the border, but any searches made solely on the basis of race or national origin are still illegal. More importantly, travelers are not legally required to unlock their devices, although agents can detain them for significant periods of time if they do not. “In each incident that I’ve seen, the subjects have been shown a Blue Paper that says CBP has legal authority to search phones at the border, which gives them the impression that they’re obligated to unlock the phone, which isn’t true,” Hassan Shibly, chief executive director of CAIR Florida, told The Verge. “They’re not obligated to unlock the phone.”

Nevertheless, Bikkannavar was not allowed to leave until he gave CBP his PIN. The officer insisted that CBP had the authority to search the phone. The document given to Bikkannavar listed a series of consequences for failure to offer information that would allow CBP to copy the contents of the device. “I didn’t really want to explore all those consequences,” he says. “It mentioned detention and seizure.” Ultimately, he agreed to hand over the phone and PIN. The officer left with the device and didn’t return for another 30 minutes.

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http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detained-cbp-phone-search-trump-travel-ban

jmdrake
02-12-2017, 04:52 PM
Cause.....freedumb!

Zippyjuan
02-12-2017, 05:48 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detained-cbp-phone-search-trump-travel-ban

Looks Mooslem! (or like Jesus)

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0LqeF6a9npwg06wYLzY0LjTM_pY=/0x0:1375x921/920x613/filters:focal(578x351:798x571):format(webp)/cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53209491/SiddBikkannavar_4.0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4AVJmWXUAEITQf.jpg

TheCount
02-12-2017, 05:55 PM
http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/12/14583124/nasa-sidd-bikkannavar-detained-cbp-phone-search-trump-travel-banWhen they do that they don't manually search the phone, they make a copy of all of its contents. So they have everything.

TommyJeff
02-12-2017, 06:22 PM
Can I use password as my password or did Podesta already claim it?

GunnyFreedom
02-12-2017, 06:29 PM
Can I use password as my password or did Podesta already claim it?

Only if you use 1234 as your PIN

oyarde
02-12-2017, 06:33 PM
How much will you get for selling passwords ?

Suzanimal
02-12-2017, 07:57 PM
Only if you use 1234 as your PIN

My pin is 0000. :D

Zippyjuan
02-12-2017, 07:58 PM
Enter "Password".

NorthCarolinaLiberty
02-12-2017, 07:58 PM
Spreading more Liberty just like he promised.


Funny coming from a you, a guy who voted multiple times for Boxer and Feinstein, right? :rolleyes:

nikcers
02-12-2017, 08:03 PM
The last NDAA they signed it included provisions for cyber warfare against American civilians. They can now steal your meta data, manipulate meta data and charge you for meta data without a trial. In another NDAA that they signed they can kill an American on American soil. Soon we will have a wall around us, and be free.

TommyJeff
02-12-2017, 08:18 PM
Only if you use 1234 as your PIN
I'll take it !

eleganz
02-12-2017, 09:33 PM
is that even legal? what ever happened to, charge me with a crime or let me go?

GunnyFreedom
02-12-2017, 09:35 PM
is that even legal? what ever happened to, charge me with a crime or let me go?

They will be glad to let you go if you don't give them your passwords. To go right back to the country you are coming from and not enter the United States. :p

CPUd
02-12-2017, 09:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/iByWlIx.png

https://i.imgur.com/621p7f2.jpg

Slave Mentality
02-13-2017, 04:27 PM
They will be glad to let you go if you don't give them your passwords. To go right back to the country you are coming from and not enter the United States. :p

That is sounding like the better option more and more.

The Rebel Poet
03-07-2017, 09:43 AM
Looks Mooslem! (or like Jesus)

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0LqeF6a9npwg06wYLzY0LjTM_pY=/0x0:1375x921/920x613/filters:focal(578x351:798x571):format(webp)/cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/53209491/SiddBikkannavar_4.0.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4AVJmWXUAEITQf.jpg
Jesus said you don't lawfully owe taxes. That makes him worse than any Muslim.

AZJoe
12-30-2018, 12:04 PM
Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock his phone at airport (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/man-sues-feds-after-being-detained-for-refusing-to-unlock-his-phone-at-airport/)
Was your phone imaged by border agents? They may still have the data (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/was-your-phone-imaged-by-border-agents-they-may-still-have-the-data/)

A Southern California man has become the latest person to sue the federal government over what he says is an unconstitutional search of his phone at the Los Angeles International Airport. … his lawsuit (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5634603-Gov-Uscourts-Cacd-727665-1-0.html) …

After clearing the security checkpoint, Elsharkawi, an American citizen, was pulled aside … by a Customs and Border Protection officer, who began questioning him about how much cash he was carrying and where he was going. Elsharkawi complied with the officer’s inquiries and dutifully followed him to a nearby table. "As the questioning continued and became increasingly aggressive, Mr. Elsharkawi asked if there was a problem and whether he needed an attorney," the complaint states (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5634603-Gov-Uscourts-Cacd-727665-1-0.html#document/p20/a471633). "Officer Rivas then accused Mr. Elsharkawi of hiding something because of his request for an attorney."

Soon after, another agent, Officer Rodriguez, began searching Elsharkawi’s pockets and discovered his phone. Rodriguez asked Elsharkawi to unlock his phone, which he declined to do. He then also refused to answer further questions without having an attorney present. Another officer told Elsharkawi that he was not under arrest and as such had no right to an attorney—at which point he asked to be released. … When that request was ignored, another agent, Officer Rivas, began rifling through Elsharkawi’s carry-on bag for a second time. …

Mr. Elsharkawi asked for his phone back to make a call. Officer Rodriguez responded by stating that Mr. Elsharkawi had an attitude, was obviously racist, and had a problem with the uniform of CBP officers. Officer Rodriguez told Mr. Elsharkawi to put his hands behind his back, and handcuffed him. Officer Rodriguez, along with two other CBP officers, then began pulling Mr. Elsharkawi into an elevator. At this point, Mr. Elsharkawi feared for his safety. He turned to a nearby flight attendant and yelled to her, "Please call a lawyer for me!" …

They said I’m not under arrest even though I’m handcuffed and they are taking me somewhere that I don’t know and will not let me have a lawyer." Officer Rodriguez then pushed Mr. Elsharkawi’s arms up to his neck, to the point that Mr. Elsharkawi feared they would break. One of the CBP officers stated that Mr. Elsharkawi was causing a lot of problems, and recommended taking him downstairs. Elsharkawi was taken to a holding cell and was eventually brought before a supervisor named Officer Stevenson. Stevenson explained that the agents were "just protecting the country" and that all he had to do was unlock his phone.

Again, Elsharkawi declined. … new agents continued to search his bag. Yet another officer entered the scene, identified in the civil complaint as "Officer Jennifer," … Eventually … Elsharkawi "felt he had no choice but to acquiesce and unlocked his phone." Officer Jennifer began searching his phone and asked Elsharkawi about his eBay and Amazon accounts, and "where he got merchandise for his e-commerce business, and what swap meets he frequents. Officer Jennifer also commented that Mr. Elsharkawi had a lot of apps and a lot of unread emails on his phone." …

What could happen if you refuse to unlock your phone at the US border? (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/what-could-happen-if-you-refuse-to-unlock-your-phone-at-the-us-border/)

Lawyers for Elsharkawi believe that his phone was imaged (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5634603-Gov-Uscourts-Cacd-727665-1-0.html#document/p20/a471633). A recent report issued (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/12/was-your-phone-imaged-by-border-agents-they-may-still-have-the-data/) by the Department of Homeland Security Office of the Inspector General found that some USB sticks containing data copied from electronic devices searched at the border (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/what-could-happen-if-you-refuse-to-unlock-your-phone-at-the-us-border/) "had not been deleted after the searches were completed." According to CBP’s own figures sent to Ars in March 2017 (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/digital-device-searches-at-us-border-increased-fivefold-from-2015-to-2016/), the agency searched nearly 24,000 devices during fiscal year 2016 … 2017 reached more than 29,000 "inbound travelers." (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5498750-OIG-19-10-Nov18.html#document/p11/a470923) However, the agency maintains that such inspections are exceedingly rare. It is not clear how many outbound travelers, like Elsharkawi, were subjected to such searches. Federal authorities do not need a warrant to examine a phone or a computer seized at the border. They rely on what’s known as the "border doctrine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_search_exception)

AZJoe
12-30-2018, 12:08 PM
831716834529439745

oyarde
12-30-2018, 12:15 PM
One of the few things I miss about my military career , Giving the code name for an FPF once it is set up.

Schifference
12-30-2018, 12:23 PM
I think a while back there was a thread about towns paying something like 30k for a device that opens your phone. If I remember correctly that was booming and more and more agencies were buying into the hacking device.