Has anyone seen any protests over killing of 8 year old refugee girl in US raid?

[enhanced_deficit]

Has anyone spotted any protests on the streets over killing of 8 year old refugee girl in Yemen?

If not, is it because Trump cannot be solely blamed for this and it would implicate Obama too as this raid was planned by team Obama and okay'd by Trump?




'Almost Everything Went Wrong' In First U.S. Military Raid Authorized By Trump

by Ben Yakas in News on Jan 31, 2017 12:05 pm






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Chief Petty Officer William 'Ryan' Owens and Nawar Anwar al-Awlaki, both of whom were killed in a raid ordered by Trump
http://gothamist.com/2017/01/31/yemen_raid_trump_fatal.php







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"Every Time I Think About Those Kids It Gets Me Mad": Obama Tears

[phill4paul]

Not sure. Haven't really been looking.

[enhanced_deficit]

Not sure. Haven't really been looking.

Ok.
Hopefully you didn't miss Chuck Schumers compassion tears for refugees though:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svc-KonE9m4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svc-KonE9m4


If his tears scope included the plight this 8 year old refugee girl also, technically that could be seen as a protest.

[CPUd]

No, but quite a few are cheering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu4IC-UAIzY

[enhanced_deficit]

No, but quite a few are cheering.


Not for long, there are unconfirmed rumors that Michelle Obama may join pro-refugee protests against Trump as soon as her vacation ends.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2014/05/08/Style/Images/HASHTAG011399589771.jpg&w=480


Hillary has also tweeted in support of refugees.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/WxxHR9u.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3hrbBPUcAAcz93.jpg

[William Tell]

Has anyone spotted any protests on the streets over killing of 8 year old refugee girl in Yemen?

If not, is it because Trump cannot be solely blamed for this and it would implicate Obama too as this raid was planned by team Obama and okay'd by Trump?


Not sure I follow, are you saying only Obama supporters would protest the killing of an 8 year old girl?

[69360]

Calling the daughter of a terrorist a refugee is deliberate misinformation on your part. I'm not saying I agree with the raid, I don't. But the whole premise of your post and poll is under false pretenses.

[enhanced_deficit]

So she was not seeking refuge but part of some nefarious plot because her relatives were suspects?

I was going by common definition of term "refugee" and not one approved by a specific gummit.

[PierzStyx]

I've been protesting it.

I don't care how much you love Trump. If you can still support him after this, after ordering the slaughter of women and children you're a fucking monster. You're the problem with American society.

[PierzStyx]

https://i.imgur.com/WxxHR9u.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3hrbBPUcAAcz93.jpg



To that top picture's point: We have been talking about the rise of Hitler in classes recently and his using of racism and xenophobia as a means of attaining political power, and even his first attempts to get rid of the Jews by deporting them to other countries. One of my students today just blurted out: "Holy f*cking sh*t, Mister," and then go on to connect how everything that is happening now is comparable to what happened then. I saw the light dawn in his eyes. I couldn't even reprimand him for swearing in class.

Trump may or may not turn into "another Hitler." But he already is another racist fascist and is on the high road to full National Socialism.

[69360]

So she was not seeking refuge but part of some nefarious plot because her relatives were suspects?

I was going by common definition of term "refugee" and not one approved by a specific gummit.

You can twist your words around all you want. Your intent was to deceive.

In this day an age refugee is taken to be ones fleeing conflict, not inciting it.

I don't like that the little girl died, but don't like where you are going here either.

[69360]

To that top picture's point: We have been talking about the rise of Hitler in classes recently and his using of racism and xenophobia as a means of attaining political power, and even his first attempts to get rid of the Jews by deporting them to other countries. One of my students today just blurted out: "Holy f*cking sh*t, Mister," and then go on to connect how everything that is happening now is comparable to what happened then. I saw the light dawn in his eyes. I couldn't even reprimand him for swearing in class.

Trump may or may not turn into "another Hitler." But he already is another racist fascist and is on the high road to full National Socialism.

The parallels are scary. How Trump rose to power, the travel ban, Bannon replacing the NSC, using local cops as immigration enforcers. These are similar to what happened in Germany in the early 30s.

[enhanced_deficit]

I've been protesting it.

I don't care how much you love Trump. If you can still support him after this, after ordering the slaughter of women and children you're a $#@!ing monster. You're the problem with American society.


If your underlying assumptions are correct, that would be a principled stand.

Using same reasoning, I gather that you see all Obama supporters as "$#@!ing monsters" also given his track record of years of dronegangster-ism that has killed many innocent children, civilians?

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/eRvrIBk.png

[enhanced_deficit]

In this day an age refugee is taken to be ones fleeing conflict, not inciting it.



Let me ask you again, which conflict was the 8 year old girl inciting?

Not that it's going to help your argument here as it does not apply here, but a person can be a "refugee", "criminal", "violence incitor" etc all at the same time also. Quite a few Palestinian refugees have been terrorists too, as were some Jewish refugees few deacdes back.
Refugee is simply a person who seeks refuge away from his/her home.


In case you were implying that having a suspect as a parent makes a child less of an innocent being or not worthy of being a refugee even if otherwise qualified, that is not a morally sound view IMO.
That kind of OT based racial doctrines may have been used by last dronegangster puppet's masters during drone strikes morality calculus but those are not moral in the modern age.

[69360]

Let me ask you again, which conflict was the 8 year old girl inciting?

Not that it's going to help your argument here as it does not apply here, but a person can be a "refugee", "criminal", "violence incitor" etc all at the same time also. Quite a few Palestinian refugees have been terrorists too, as were some Jewish refugees few deacdes back.
Refugee is simply a person who seeks refuge away from his/her home.


In case you were implying that having a suspect as a parent makes a child less of an innocent being or not worthy of being a refugee even if otherwise qualified, that is not a morally sound view IMO.
That kind of OT based racial doctrines may have been used by last dronegangster puppet's masters during drone strikes morality calculus but those are not moral in the modern age.

Her family were terrorists. You and I both know that. They were just as culpable in her death as Trump.

[enhanced_deficit]

They were just as culpable in her death as Trump.

If tomorrow cops raided home of a minority race criminal suspect somewhere in the US and his 8 year old daughter is killed by cops bullets during the raid. Would you say cops and her father are equally culpable in her death?

BTW, do you hold same view about all the children killed with Obama drone attacks... that their suspected parents/relatives share half the blame and Obama shares the other half?

[AZJoe]

Her family were terrorists. You and I both know that. They were just as culpable in her death as Trump.

Nope. Don't know that and neither does 69360.

What we do know is that she was not invading the USA or droning the USA. We do know she was in her own country, and Washington invaded in violation of national sovereignty and slaughtered scores of people. We do know the Yemeni people are defending their nation against Washington backed invaders - Wahhabi extremists from Saudi Arabia. We do know that the US backed Saudi war and blockade on Yemen is a genocide taking place. We know that the Washington backed war and blockade on Yemen is conservatively causing the death of a Yemeni child every ten minutes. We do know who is the aggressor invading whose nation, and who is defending their nation from the terrorists invaders.

[CPUd]

Nope. Don't know that and neither does 69360.

What we do know is that she was not invading the USA or droning the USA. We do know she was in her own country, and Washington invaded in violation of national sovereignty and slaughtered scores of people. We do know the Yemeni people are defending their nation against Washington backed invaders - Wahhabi extremists from Saudi Arabia. We do know that the US backed Saudi war and blockade on Yemen is a genocide taking place. We know that the Washington backed war and blockade on Yemen is conservatively causing the death of a child Yemeni child every ten minutes. We do know who is the aggressor invading whose nation, and who is defending their nation from the terrorists invaders.

We have to fight them over there so we won't have to fight them when they get over here.

[Ender]

Nope. Don't know that and neither does 69360.

What we do know is that she was not invading the USA or droning the USA. We do know she was in her own country, and Washington invaded in violation of national sovereignty and slaughtered scores of people. We do know the Yemeni people are defending their nation against Washington backed invaders - Wahhabi extremists from Saudi Arabia. We do know that the US backed Saudi war and blockade on Yemen is a genocide taking place. We know that the Washington backed war and blockade on Yemen is conservatively causing the death of a child Yemeni child every ten minutes. We do know who is the aggressor invading whose nation, and who is defending their nation from the terrorists invaders.

'Zactly.

If we were being invaded and bombed, who would be the terrorists here?

[AZJoe]

Has anyone spotted any protests on the streets over killing of 8 year old refugee girl in Yemen?
If not, is it because Trump cannot be solely blamed for this and it would implicate Obama too as this raid was planned by team Obama and okay'd by Trump?

Yes, likely no outrage because Obama began this support of War and genocide on Yemen, and assassinated the girl's teen brother and father.

Of course no protests. The brainwashed non-thinking, emotional knee-jerk regressives have no rational sense of priorities whatsoever. War and murder is completely mainstream. Offending the PC sensibilities code is a however a mortal sin. A 90 day delay on migration deserves protests. The assassination of children and women in the midst of an ongoing genocide against Yemen - no cause for outrage. The destruction of multiple countries causing widespread death, impoverishment, millions displaced or made refugees - ho hum. In fact someone who has already committed such evil atrocities and should be president right. As long as its "our mass murderer doing the killing and destroying" then murder and genocide is A-OK with them.

[69360]

If tomorrow cops raided home of a minority race criminal suspect somewhere in the US and his 8 year old daughter is killed by cops bullets during the raid. Would you say cops and her father are equally culpable in her death?

BTW, do you hold same view about all the children killed with Obama drone attacks... that their suspected parents/relatives share half the blame and Obama shares the other half?

That isn't the same and you know it. Being black isn't harming anyone and isn't a choice. Choosing to be a terrorist certianly does harm others and yes it put your family at risk, so yes they were culpable.


Nope. Don't know that and neither does 69360.

What we do know is that she was not invading the USA or droning the USA. We do know she was in her own country, and Washington invaded in violation of national sovereignty and slaughtered scores of people. We do know the Yemeni people are defending their nation against Washington backed invaders - Wahhabi extremists from Saudi Arabia. We do know that the US backed Saudi war and blockade on Yemen is a genocide taking place. We know that the Washington backed war and blockade on Yemen is conservatively causing the death of a child Yemeni child every ten minutes. We do know who is the aggressor invading whose nation, and who is defending their nation from the terrorists invaders.

Yes, I know that. Anwar Al-Awlaki was a terrorist. That is not debatable.


None of this changes the fact that is horrible Trump caused the little girl's death. I just add that if her family weren't terrorists, she would be alive. I don't agree with Trump's policy of killing terrorists families.

[enhanced_deficit]

In this case there were no HVTs to be had, targets of arrests were supposed to be hard drives.
I used that analogy thinking original American father suspect (who is already dead) was African-American, although not sure if everyone in Yemen is of African descent. A murder suspect in Chicago could be seen as someone plotting to harm others. Would you think children of an already dead "murder suspect" in Chicago family if killed by cops while rying to retrieve that family's hard drives would be in any way justifiable?
Using same anology because there are various protests lately about policng abuse among US communities of color and trying to draw parallels.

Your certainity about "suspects" must be based on something not known to public. Elite cops who shot and killed unarmed black mother Miriam Carey in DC with her young daughter beside her shot her after believing she was a "terrorist" based at least in part on her looks.