Trump ban is not anti-Muslim, but anti-Iranian, pro-Israel

[cindy25]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

[MallsRGood]

Did you vote for Trump?

[oyarde]

Iran is a hardcore communist regime as stated plainly in the constitution they observe , the state owns , well , everything . They will retaliate and forbid US visitors . Personally , I care squat about Iran and I can include Afghanistan and Saud in there as well .

[UWDude]

This is how it looks to me too. Bad omen.

[Brian4Liberty]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Everyone was rightly hammering them about this today. The officials all had the answer ready: they used Obama's list (apparently it was also used by Congress for some things). Seems like they probably planned to turn it back around on the left. In other words, the defense will be, if Obama's list was acceptable, why is this list not acceptable? I would expect it to be used in court.

[TommyJeff]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

[TommyJeff]

Everyone was rightly hammering them about this today. The officials all had the answer ready: they used Obama's list (apparently it was also used by Congress for some things). Seems like they probably planned to turn it back around on the left. In other words, the defense will be, if Obama's list was acceptable, why is this list not acceptable? I would expect it to be used in court.

I heard the same.

[cindy25]

Did you vote for Trump?

yes, although more of an anti-Hillary vote

[cindy25]

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

yes, and with regard to refugees or new applicants for visas it not bad. but to apply it to green card holders, people who might have left Iran or Syria 40 years, is just insane. people who left Iran after the 1979 Islamic takeover are subject to it. Iraqis who worked for the US military are subject to it. even members of the military born in those countries, and not yet citizens are subject to it. no one wants to have a situation like Germany. it just went too far.

just imagine Green card holders from other countries, and their families. they will be afraid to travel for fear a stupid executive order could affect them. and it could, if some nut from England or France does something, the entire country would be banned?

[cindy25]

Iran is a hardcore communist regime as stated plainly in the constitution they observe , the state owns , well , everything . They will retaliate and forbid US visitors . Personally , I care squat about Iran and I can include Afghanistan and Saud in there as well .

I don't care about the Iranian govt either, although they are not communist. a religious theocracy yes-but so is Saudi Arabia, UAE, QAtar, Kuwait. its not oil-Iran has oil. its Israel

[MallsRGood]

yes, although more of an anti-Hillary vote

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LSpM0b8fP2w/UcTAAg29n-I/AAAAAAAAAh4/UzG-SG4A94o/s1600/InBruges2.JPG

[enhanced_deficit]

While it may have such symbolism, hard to call it "anti muslim" considering that Saudi Arabia and vast majority of the 40-50 Islamic countries are not on the list.

OTOH, if it was "pro Israel" or if Trump was following Israeli example, shouldn't mainstream neocons like Schumer, McCain, Graham etc be supporting it instead of criticising this?
Two and two don't seem to add up.

Chuck Schumer gets emotional over immigration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506984-Chuck-Schumer-gets-emotional-over-immigration&)

http://onlysimchas.imgix.net/uploads/2017/01/schumer-crying-airport.jpg?crop=faces&w=465&h=442&fit=crop


Jun 11, 2010
Schumer Says It ‘Makes Sense’ To ‘Strangle [Gaza] Economically’ Until It Votes The Way Israel Wants (https://thinkprogress.org/schumer-says-it-makes-sense-to-strangle-gaza-economically-until-it-votes-the-way-israel-wants-f19913065d1)

https://talkaboutpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/120718-israeli-checkpoint.jpg

U.S. Senate Unanimously Approves Resolution Giving Full Support of Israel on Gaza
The resolution had 78 bipartisan co-sponsors and was introduced by Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) The House passed a similar res. July 11.
Jul 20, 2014
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.606183

[LibertyEagle]

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!



Nah, that would be the open borders marxists and the neocons who did that.

I do agree that Trump should have included Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan.

[oyarde]

I don't care about the Iranian govt either, although they are not communist. a religious theocracy yes-but so is Saudi Arabia, UAE, QAtar, Kuwait. its not oil-Iran has oil. its Israel

The Iranian constitution is clearly marxist throughout . Saud is just a country of wahabbism so I guess it could be a nutjob religious theocracy . Mostly it is just a shithole full of stupid people with no job skills and all skilled labor hired out to foreigners .

[seapilot]

Yea, well, let me know in a couple months how that works out for you...

...empowering somebody like Trump (cartoon character)

...destroying whatever remains of conservationism by associating it with him, etc.

It's gonna be GREAT!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LSpM0b8fP2w/UcTAAg29n-I/AAAAAAAAAh4/UzG-SG4A94o/s1600/InBruges2.JPG

Voting does not really change anything. I did not vote for anybody, am I guilty for trump actions by not voting for the hag?

[oyarde]

Weren't these 7 counties selected by the prior administration?

Yes .

[oyarde]

Did you vote for Trump?

I did not .

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Did you vote for Trump?


Did you vote for Clinton?

[Contumacious]

That is correct. The ban is intended to provoke Iran and has NOTHING to do with national security.

.

[Carlybee]

We need us a good war dontcha know?

#neoconsrback

[Contumacious]

We need us a good war dontcha know?

#neoconsrback

We are taling about WWIII

[TheTexan]

It's gonna be GREAT!

What was really Great was anyone trying to get out of Terminal D at DFW this weekend

[Contumacious]

Iran is a hardcore communist regime as stated plainly in the constitution they observe , the state owns , well , everything . They will retaliate and forbid US visitors . Personally , I care squat about Iran and I can include Afghanistan and Saud in there as well .



Hummmmmmmmmmm

You are a Zionist, right?

.

[MallsRGood]

Voting does not really change anything. I did not vote for anybody, am I guilty for trump actions by not voting for the hag?

I didn't vote for the hag either (as should be obvious).

You're only guilty of supporting Trump if...you supported Trump.

Looks like we're in the clear!

...For others, though, a lot of grey uniforms are going to be put in a lot of fireplaces in the near future.

...10 years from now, we'll learn that, in fact, nobody voted for Trump.

Weird huh?

[UWDude]

(as should be obvious).



You only have 95 posts here. How could it be obvious? Nobody knows anything about you.
Except that you are a sock puppet. You are already talking like you are the longtime member you were before you were banned.
remember, you are now on a sock puppet account, trying to circumvent your ban, you have to act like you are brand new, or your cover is blown.

[UWDude]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.


Wait a minute, Trump's ban is only for Syria!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FTFB9GDfls

https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/

I was outraged by the ban on refugees from war-torn countries in the Middle East. I’ve covered refugees fleeing war in Iraq and Syria over the last two years, meeting families on the road in Greece, Serbia and Macedonia, speaking to poor people in Turkey and Jordan and discussing the hopes and fears of people displaced in Iraq. If you want to ban “terrorists,” these are the last people to hit with a refugee ban. Instead the government should be using the best intelligence possible to find people being radicalized, some of whom have lived in the US their whole lives or who come from countries not affected by the ban, such as Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.

So I was outraged, and then I read the executive order. There are many full texts of the order online, such as at CNN, the NYT, the WSJ or Independent. According to most reports Trump was banning “nationals of seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States for at least the next 90 days.” This bars people from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen.


I had to see for myself, so I read the executive order. The order does seek “to protect the American people from terrorist attacks by foreign nationals admitted to the United States.” It says that it seeks “Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern.” It also says “I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order.” And it targets Syrians specifically. “I hereby proclaim that the entry of nationals of Syria as refugees is detrimental to the interests of the United States and thus suspend any such entry until such time as I have determined that sufficient changes have been made to the USRAP to ensure that admission of Syrian refugees is consistent with the national interest.”


But, wait a sec. According to the reports “The order bars all people hailing from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen.” Critics had attacked Trump for selecting these seven countries and not selecting other states “linked to his sprawling business empire.” Bloomberg and Forbes bought into this.

But, wait a sec. I read the order and Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen are not mentioned in it.


It turns out this was a form of fake news, or alternative facts. Trump didn’t select seven “Muslim-majority” countries. US President Barack Obama’s administration selected these seven Muslim-majority countries.


The Department of Homeland Security targeted these seven countries over the last years as countries of concern. In February 2016 “The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.”

[TheCount]

yes, and with regard to refugees or new applicants for visas it not bad. but to apply it to green card holders, people who might have left Iran or Syria 40 years, is just insane. people who left Iran after the 1979 Islamic takeover are subject to it. Iraqis who worked for the US military are subject to it. even members of the military born in those countries, and not yet citizens are subject to it. no one wants to have a situation like Germany. it just went too far.But they are nonwhite and therefore the policy has supporters.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

But they are nonwhite and therefore the policy has supporters.


Now how did I know this forum's "supporting member" would be along to play the divisive card here?

[Carlybee]

We are taling about WWIII

And this is surprising how?

[RJ Liberty]

You only have 95 posts here. How could it be obvious?

Because he has a banner under his name which states he voted for neither Clinton nor Trump.

[oyarde]

Hummmmmmmmmmm

You are a Zionist, right?

.
LOL , no , I could care squat about those people as well .

[UWDude]

Because he has a banner under his name which states he voted for neither Clinton nor Trump.

2015

[robert68]

..

[nikcers]

Wait a minute, Trump's ban is only for Syria!


obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/ (https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-made-the-muslim-ban-possible-and-the-media-wont-tell-you/) Fine I won't ask the media, I'll ask Iran what they think of it.




Iran Retaliates to Trump's Order With Ban on U.S. Citizens
Iran said on Saturday it would stop U.S. citizens entering the country in retaliation to Washington's visa ban against Tehran and six other majority-Muslim countries announced by new U.S. President Donald Trump

[Ender]

That is correct. The ban is intended to provoke Iran and has NOTHING to do with national security.

.

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.

[nikcers]

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.
Over the weekend Trump said the Iran nuclear agreement must be followed 100%. A complete reversal from his campaign rhetoric to AIPAC. My only fear is that Trump was being honest both times, part of following the nuclear agreement is ending it if Iran breaks the rules.

[69360]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Bannon with help from Israel? That seems unlikely. Everyone was bitching just 2 weeks ago about how much of an anti-semite Bannon is.

It's insane not to include Saudi Arabia. Saudi terrorists have killed more Americans than any other nationality by an immense margin.

The Iranians haven't bothered us in any substantial manner since the 70's.

[undergroundrr]

open borders marxists

Something to consider:


...with classical liberal, neo-classical, Chicago school, Austrian, and even some Keynesian economists agreeing that relatively unfettered labor mobility maximizes economic growth. John Stuart Mill even went so far as to say that migration was “one of the primary sources of progress.” Adam Smith opposed mercantilist restrictions not just on capital, but on labor as well. Ludwig von Mises, the guru of the Austrian school, advocated a system of free trade where capital and labor would be employed wherever conditions are most favorable for production.

The one prominent exception was Karl Marx. Although he doesn’t seem to have treated this subject in a systematic way, his comments here and there suggest that he was no fan of immigration. For example, he regarded England’s decision to absorb the “surplus” Irishmen being driven out of their country during the Great Famine not as a benefit but a ploy by the English bourgeoisie to “force down wages and lower the material and moral position of the English working class.” The popular, modern-day restrictionist canard that immigration from the Third World to rich countries is tantamount to “importing poverty” has its genesis in Marxist thought. Indeed, far from being embarrassed by this lineage, restrictionists tout it. Consider this quote by Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, the premier restrictionist outfit in the country: “Employer organizations spend enormous resources lobbying the government to import a ‘reserve army of labor,’ to use Marx’s phrase, so that they can hold down their labor costs and avoid unionization.”

It is ironic that half of the public in the free world, including America, the land of immigrants, sides not with free-market economists like Adam Smith and Ludwig von Mises—but with Marx, the father of socialism.

http://reason.org/news/show/immigration-policy-open-borders

[nikcers]

Bannon with help from Israel? That seems unlikely. Everyone was bitching just 2 weeks ago about how much of an anti-semite Bannon is.

It's insane not to include Saudi Arabia. Saudi terrorists have killed more Americans than any other nationality by an immense margin.

The Iranians haven't bothered us in any substantial manner since the 70's.
Bannon you mean Breitbart??
Breitbart and Larry Solov conceived of the idea of founding Breitbart News Network, with "the aim of starting a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street."[ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart#cite_note-27)

[undergroundrr]

lol at trying to rat out people's votes. Your vote didn't count anyhow. The only thing that matters is whether someone can call a spade a spade or act as a trumpie sycophantic toy. Kudos and +rep to the OP.

[juleswin]

Bannon you mean Breitbart??

Wish I had rep to give you. Its amazing how naive some people are to the connection between Trump, the Neocons and Israel. The web is not even that complicated but some just cannot see it :)

[seapilot]

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.

I do not want their oil. If the PTB wants their oil they would pay for it with FRN and Iran would gladly accept it like other oil producing countries. Iran is boogie man number one, NK boogie man 2 (no oil) for the MIC. Iran made the PTB angry when they ditched the Shah and gave oil producers the middle finger. The PTB despise any country that tries to get out from under their control.

[undergroundrr]

Bannon is Goldman Sachs.

[goldenequity]

^^THIS^^
Iran is NOT the bad guy.
We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.




I do not want their oil. If the PTB wants their oil they would pay for it with FRN and Iran would gladly accept it like other oil producing countries. Iran is boogie man number one, NK boogie man 2 (no oil) for the MIC. Iran made the PTB angry when they ditched the Shah and gave oil producers the middle finger. The PTB despise any country that tries to get out from under their control.

Agreed. 100%.
If/when Trump fucks up... it will be China or Iran.

RELATED to both your comments / check it out:

Over 34.000.000.000.000$ ($34T) is the estimated value of #Arctic #oil and #gas.
It is the last and biggest oil/gas field in the world.
https://twitter.com/JesusFromMars/status/825939081129521152

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3ZSjPyWMAAnPcG.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3ZX2-wW8AUwp68.jpg

[Contumacious]

Did you vote for Trump?

Yep

Protecting my right to bear arms; I thought was preventing WWIII, and an attempt to rescind the climate agreement

[Contumacious]

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.


From purely a US standpoint that's true. But the administrations are controlled by the CIA - Prez Trump has succumbed to the swamp . The CIA wants to (1) allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights (2) weakening Syria so it can nort retaliate against Israel when it attacks Iran

[undergroundrr]

alt-right mouthpiece CNN wants you to know that trump's travel ban is not a bad thing:


Trump's order is a balm for Christians, not a ban on Muslims...

The purpose is clear and the goals are well within the scope of presidential authority. Moreover, the criteria listed are consistent with American values and principles. Only the most ardent cultural relativist would have reasons to quibble....

Instead of complaining about President Trump's executive order preventing terrorist attacks from foreign nationals, when we invoke the words 'We the People,' we should celebrate the fact we have someone in the White House willing to go the extra mile to ensure the safety of our citizens.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/opinions/trump-travel-ban-christians-swain-opinion/

[idiom]

6 of the 7 countries do not have functional governments. This makes it impossible to vet travelers from those countries.

It is obviously focused on stopping anarcho-capitalists from visiting the united states.

[Contumacious]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Little National Security Benefit to Trump’s Executive Order on Immigration (https://www.cato.org/blog/little-national-security-benefit-trumps-executive-order-immigration?utm_content=bufferbbebc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

By ALEX NOWRASTEH SHARE
Tomorrow, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order enacting a 30-day suspension of all visas for nationals from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. Foreigners from those seven nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015. Six Iranians, six Sudanese, two Somalis, two Iraqis, and one Yemini have been convicted of attempting or carrying out terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Zero Libyans or Syrians have been convicted of planning a terrorist attack on U.S. soil during that time period.

.

[69360]

Bannon you mean Breitbart??

No I mean Bannon. He was personally, repeatedly accused of being a jew hater.

[Superfluous Man]

Yeah, Amash has shown some real leadership speaking out on this.

[nikcers]

No I mean Bannon. He was personally, repeatedly accused of being a jew hater.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/


Bannon was a founding member of the board of Breitbart News, a far-right news, opinion and commentary website a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street."[ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Breitbart#cite_note-27)

“He was and is and remains staunchly pro-Israel,” said Abe Katsman, the chief counsel for Republicans Overseas Israel, who has written for Breitbart News.


One night in Jerusalem, when we were getting ready for dinner, Andrew turned to me and asked if I would de-partner from the 800-person law firm where I was practicing and become business partners with him. He said he needed my help to create a media company. He needed my help to “change the world.”

[69360]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/11/17/breitbart-news-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

Again, no not Breitbart the website, BANNON the person was repeatedly acused of personally hating jews. You can't seem to distinguish between the two.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/stephen-bannon-5-things-jews-need-to-know/

I have no idea if it is true or not and really don't care.

[nikcers]

I ...really don't care.
famous last words I guess.

[Ender]

From purely a US standpoint that's true. But the administrations are controlled by the CIA - Prez Trump has succumbed to the swamp . The CIA wants to (1) allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights (2) weakening Syria so it can nort retaliate against Israel when it attacks Iran

All presidents have- the last one to buck them big time was JFK and we know what happened to him.

[seapilot]

6 of the 7 countries do not have functional governments. This makes it impossible to vet travelers from those countries.

It is obviously focused on stopping anarcho-capitalists from visiting the united states.

Some of those did have functioning governments before USA gave them a healthy dose of democracy.

[RandallFan]

Rand's most populist immigration policy was to restrict people from muslim nations with large uncivilized tribal areas & so-called state terrorism.

You can't ban Saudi businessmen in the short term. Not to mention the flight paths. I assumed a lot of international flights guy through gulf arab countries & not through Tehran.

I doubt international flights are stopping in Aleppo.

If Trump changes forces in Afghanistan he will want to use Pakistan or somewhere also. Not to mention Japanese nationalists,etc. want to use Pakistan and East Turkmenistan to undermine China.


The most important thing Trump did was to argue you can do without mass third world immigration.

What's with all these morons thinking 100% of Persians are doctors? It's a form of ethnic-chauvinism that Mark Krikorian talks about.

That's another part of Trump's appeal. "All Mexicans are hardworking with family values. 0% of them are single mothers on welfare. All Persians are doctors." Trumper:"Fuck off"


Tehran's hospitals would all be empty if that were the case.

Persians look good when they reside next to goofy forehead Armenians & illegals Mexicans.

[TommyJeff]

yes, and with regard to refugees or new applicants for visas it not bad. but to apply it to green card holders, people who might have left Iran or Syria 40 years, is just insane. people who left Iran after the 1979 Islamic takeover are subject to it. Iraqis who worked for the US military are subject to it. even members of the military born in those countries, and not yet citizens are subject to it. no one wants to have a situation like Germany. it just went too far.

just imagine Green card holders from other countries, and their families. they will be afraid to travel for fear a stupid executive order could affect them. and it could, if some nut from England or France does something, the entire country would be banned?

im not sure why you quoted me.
How does this comment of yours relate to my question quoted?

[pcosmar]

That is correct. The ban is intended to provoke Iran and has NOTHING to do with national security.

.

It never has. It had nothing to do with national security when we attacked and imposed a brutal dictator on Iran.

It had nothing to do with National Security when we attacked them by Proxy via Iraq.

They have learned from being attacked.. They invested in Defense..
Attacking them would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.

and they would make much better allies.

[undergroundrr]

Sing this to the tune of Barbara Ann:


Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, said the United States was putting Iran on notice over its "destabilizing activity" after it fired the missile.

"As of today, we are officially putting Iran on notice," Flynn said, without explaining exactly what that meant.

http://www.newsweek.com/iran-ballistic-missile-iran-nuclear-deal-michael-flynn-donald-trump-551436

[undergroundrr]

The new guy on the Principals Committee of the National Security Council HATES Iran.

Check out the blood-thirsty, slavering Islamo-hatred of Stephen Bannon and his Jihad Watch idol Robert Spencer in July 2016: "[Iran] is by far a greater enemy than the caliphate of ISIS, which is a mad, butchering murderous cult... [Iran a]re so out front by saying they're our mortal enemy, they're going to destroy us. It's in everything they talk about. They don't try to hide it. Why do we seem as a country and a nation incapable of accepting that and addressing it?... There are no [Iranian] moderates. The moderate guys are kinda crazy. The hardcore are really crazy."

Listen on as his guest goes on to say that Iran would be a total pushover in a military confrontation. Listen on as trump's right-hand man Bannon expresses his concern that US Military and Intelligence are systemically enabling Iran by not taking them seriously. Listen on as they scoff at US businesses who want to trade with Iran - "Are people looking the other way because of economic interests that they have in these sorts of relationships with people who are the sworn enemy of the United States of America?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6H1adN4V_Y

Conclusion: Iran is a far more higher priority target with this administration than ISIS. I fear conscription is on the way.

[Contumacious]

Over the weekend Trump said the Iran nuclear agreement must be followed 100%. A complete reversal from his campaign rhetoric to AIPAC. My only fear is that Trump was being honest both times, part of following the nuclear agreement is ending it if Iran breaks the rules.

DJT has been swallowed by the swamp.

JFK resisted the CIA/DULLES attempt to manipulate him.

I don't think Trump will fight them

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