Trump Moving to Take Bids on Building the ‘Wall’

[PatriotOne]

26 Jan 2017

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/26/trump-moving-take-bids-building-wall/

The estimated final cost of that “Wall” would depend on such factors as terrain, the presence of necessary infrastructure such as roads, and the acquirement of land in the wall’s path. Although neither the Senate nor the House leadership has laid out the details as to how Congress or the Mexican government will pay for the infrastructure, Trump appears to have all the congressional support he needs to start the bidding process to honor his key campaign promise.

[PatriotOne]

Funny comment but probably true...lol :D.

Archie Bunker • 4 hours ago

Bids? Hell most of us will show-up and build it for free.

[CPUd]

Paul Ryan will make sure we get the funds we need to build this wall. The new Interior Secretary will make sure there are no problems with the pesky landowners who don't want a wall on their property.

[agitator]

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder841/31863841.jpg

[phill4paul]

The wall to nowhere..............

[Ender]

The bridge of death......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPOyOM7wxlE

[kpitcher]

What will they be downsizing to offset the billions needed?

With the height and size put giant LED projectors on our side, could always sell advertising space on it to offset costs. Someone doesn't like the new view of the wall? Pay to put some scenic view...

[PatriotOne]

What will they be downsizing to offset the billions needed?



illegal immigrants

[phill4paul]

tod evans has mentioned he will build a wall around D.C. if the materials are provided. I will volunteer to join him and throw in $100 in materials.

[Marenco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IVvHdlXJx4

[Eroberer]

Who do they think are actually going to do the work? In the southwest, it's usually the people they want to keep out.

[CPUd]

Whoever it is better demand payment up front.

[PatriotOne]

Who do they think are actually going to do the work? In the southwest, it's usually the people they want to keep out.

Just thinking out of the box but maybe some of those unemployed Americans that can't feed their own families because of all the immigrants taking the jobs? I know that seems outrageous but......

[Eroberer]

Maybe, but I doubt it. I am not making a judgement call on this, but I find it ironic.

[Jan2017]

Funny comment but probably true...lol :D.

Archie Bunker • 4 hours ago

Bids? Hell most of us will show-up and build it for free.

Nice pick-up . . .

Bids? Hell most of us will show-up and build it for free. And any Mexican that builds a mile earns citizenship.


Lots of good ideas there . . . NOT having a secure border "costs" us more, and, tax wire transfers to Mexico


Mexican nationals living in the USA send BILLIONS every year to their families in Mexico. Tax these remittances heavily
and the wall pays for itself.. or rather Mexico pays for it.

[TheTexan]

We should have a poll for how tall the wall needs to be.

I'm thinking 150-200 feet tall, at least.

Though I think a 500 ft tall wall would be awesome. Would be a glorious wall, worthy of the name Great Wall of America

[asurfaholic]

Good luck building the wall. Almost every construction project has multitudes of Mexicans working (efficiently, and usually for cheap).

This wall is no good for America. So sad to see the US collapsing all around us.

[CaptUSA]

We should have a poll for how tall the wall needs to be.

I'm thinking 150-200 feet tall, at least.

Though I think a 500 ft tall wall would be awesome. Would be a glorious wall, worthy of the name Great Wall of America

How far do you space the turrets?

[PatriotOne]

Good luck building the wall. Almost every construction project has multitudes of Mexicans working (efficiently, and usually for cheap).



Before the Mexicans arrived nothing ever got built here using Americans. We were still living in grass huts and businesses were being run out of caves. The insanity of thinking an American can build something!

[TheTexan]

Also I think we need an underground minefield to prevent tunneling. Great idea, yea?

[LibertyEagle]

Who do they think are actually going to do the work? In the southwest, it's usually the people they want to keep out.

Oh good. Two birds with one stone.

[LibertyEagle]

Also I think we need an underground minefield to prevent tunneling. Great idea, yea?

Actually, I'm sure Israel has some technology to guard against this.

[TheTexan]

And also declare everything within 10 miles south of the wall to be a "no man's land".

Any farmers/ranchers/etc living there would obviously have to move but that's their problem not ours

[TheTexan]

And we're gonna need drones.

Lots and lots of drones.

[LibertyEagle]

And also declare everything within 10 miles south of the wall to be a "no man's land".

Any farmers/ranchers/etc living there would obviously have to move but that's their problem not ours

I seriously doubt you are from Texas, or you would be aware of the devastation of Texas ranches by illegal aliens. Not to mention their harassment of the ranch owners by the illegals and traffickers. So much so that some have relocated their families because they do not think it's safe for them to be at home.

[TheTexan]

I seriously doubt you are from Texas, or you would be aware of the devastation of Texas ranches by illegal aliens. Not to mention their harassment of the ranch owners by the illegals and traffickers. So much so that some have relocated their families because they do not think it's safe for them to be at home.

I totally get it, which is why I think we need the drones and the minefields. Because that's what it's going to take to make the wall effective.

[LibertyEagle]

I totally get it, which is why I think we need the drones and the minefields. Because that's what it's going to take to make the wall effective.

Take your snark elsewhere. It's obnoxious as all hell.

[CPUd]

LOL

[FunkBuddha]

Maybe we can ask the French? They have some experiencing with border walls don't they?

[dean.engelhardt]

Actually, I'm sure Israel has some technology to guard against this.

We had it there 10 years ago.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/boeing-virtual-fence-30-billion-failure/

[Jan2017]

And also declare everything within 10 miles south of the wall to be a "no man's land".

Any farmers/ranchers/etc living there would obviously have to move but that's their problem not ours
A buffer zone on the border like a DMZ between hostile nations. 10 miles . . . I dunno if that is too much or not enough.

It could be how Mexico pays for it - by giving up land.

[agitator]

I seriously doubt you are from Texas, or you would be aware of the devastation of Texas ranches by illegal aliens. Not to mention their harassment of the ranch owners by the illegals and traffickers. So much so that some have relocated their families because they do not think it's safe for them to be at home.

Robert N. Krentz Jr. (1951 – March 27, 2010) was a prominent rancher in the U.S. state of Arizona. Active in a family cattle ranching business stretching back nearly 100 years, he and his family ranch were inducted into the Arizona Farming and Ranching Hall of Fame in 2008.[1][2] Krentz was featured several times during the 1990s and 2000s (decade) in media reports regarding the problems surrounding illegal immigration across the Arizona stretch of the United States – Mexico border,[3] particularly regarding its impact on ranching.[4]

On March 27, 2010, Krentz was found shot dead on his Cochise County ranch property after reporting seeing an immigrant in need of help.[5] In the immediate aftermath, local authorities said evidence indicated that the assailant was most likely an undocumented immigrant,[6] though subsequent investigation suggested the killing was not random and that drug smugglers may have been responsible.[7] Krentz's killing attracted national attention and became a rallying cry for border security and immigration reform.


The Battle for the Border
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS EXPLODING IN MAVERICK COUNTY, WHICH WILL SOON BECOME THE BUSIEST CROSSING POINT FROM MEXICO INTO THE U.S. RANCHES ARE BEING OVERRUN BY DRUG SMUGGLERS, HOUSES ROBBED, CATTLE STOLEN. MEN HAVE BEEN SHOT AND KILLED.


http://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/the-battle-for-the-border/

[asurfaholic]

Before the Mexicans arrived nothing ever got built here using Americans. We were still living in grass huts and businesses were being run out of caves. The insanity of thinking an American can build something!

I imagine the crews to build the wall will be broken into 10 man groups. 10 wanna be managers standing around wondering why the wall isnt building itself.

[PatriotOne]

I imagine the crews to build the wall will be broken into 10 man groups. 10 wanna be managers standing around wondering why the wall isnt building itself.

Are you an illegal immigrant or something? You sure seem to have a low opinion of the American workforce who pays for the legal and illegal immigrants welfare when they don't work....lol.

[PatriotOne]

I totally get it, which is why I think we need the drones and the minefields. Because that's what it's going to take to make the wall effective.

Good idea.....more jobs for Americans!

[TheTexan]

I think our border wall should also extend 30+ miles into the Pacific ocean. Same with the Gulf of Mexico - though that gulf does need a new name. Its current name simply won't do.

[PatriotOne]

I think our border wall should also extend 30+ miles into the Pacific ocean. Same with the Gulf of Mexico - though that gulf does need a new name. Its current name simply won't do.

Woohoo....you got great ideas! Trump needs to put you on the Wall brainstorming team :-).

[tod evans]

I totally get it, which is why I think we need the drones and the minefields. Because that's what it's going to take to make the wall effective.

Alligators!

You can't have a truly Glorious Wall without alligators.

[TheTexan]

We should also consider building a wall for our border with Canada,

just in case there's Mexicans living in Canada

[tod evans]

We should also consider building a wall for our border with Canada,

just in case there's Mexicans living in Canada

Polar-bears!

You can't have a truly Glorious Northern Wall without polar-bears.

[Zippyjuan]

I think our border wall should also extend 30+ miles into the Pacific ocean. Same with the Gulf of Mexico - though that gulf does need a new name. Its current name simply won't do.

Most immigrants are coming from China- not Mexico. We need a wall between here and there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aMMHNtXfw2g/SpSwyh1dsnI/AAAAAAAAAlE/etAyWEvPiQY/s320/sharks-with-lasers-2.jpg

[AZJoe]

As long as we're building a wall, can we use this route plan?

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/01/23/20170127_map_0.jpg

[PatriotOne]

Most immigrants are coming from China- not Mexico. We need a wall between here and there.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_aMMHNtXfw2g/SpSwyh1dsnI/AAAAAAAAAlE/etAyWEvPiQY/s320/sharks-with-lasers-2.jpg

B.S. And your getting lazy. Perhaps it's time for Soro's to reassign you to a diff forum.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/chinese-immigrants-united-states

Chinese migration to the United States is a history of two parts: a first wave from the 1850s to 1880s, halted by federal laws restricting Chinese immigration; and a second wave from the late 1970s to the present, following normalization of U.S.-Chinese relations and changes to U.S. and Chinese migration policies. Chinese immigrants are now the third-largest foreign-born group in the United States after Mexicans and Indians, numbering more than 2 million and comprising 5 percent of the overall immigrant population in 2013.

Around half of Chinese immigrants obtain lawful permanent residence in the United States (also known as receiving a “green card”) through family channels. The remainder qualifies through employment-based preferences, or asylee status. Compared to the overall foreign- and native-born populations, Chinese immigrants are more highly educated, more likely to be employed, and have a higher household income.

[PatriotOne]

And those Chinese coming over illegally are coming through the Mexican border. Build The Wall!

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/

[Zippyjuan]

B.S. And your getting lazy. Perhaps it's time for Soro's to reassign you to a diff forum.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/chinese-immigrants-united-states

Chinese migration to the United States is a history of two parts: a first wave from the 1850s to 1880s, halted by federal laws restricting Chinese immigration; and a second wave from the late 1970s to the present, following normalization of U.S.-Chinese relations and changes to U.S. and Chinese migration policies. Chinese immigrants are now the third-largest foreign-born group in the United States after Mexicans and Indians, numbering more than 2 million and comprising 5 percent of the overall immigrant population in 2013.

Around half of Chinese immigrants obtain lawful permanent residence in the United States (also known as receiving a “green card”) through family channels. The remainder qualifies through employment-based preferences, or asylee status. Compared to the overall foreign- and native-born populations, Chinese immigrants are more highly educated, more likely to be employed, and have a higher household income.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/immigrants-to-u-s-from-china-top-those-from-mexico-1430699284


Immigrants to U.S. From China Top Those From Mexico

SAN DIEGO—Move over, Mexico. When it comes to sending immigrants to the U.S., China and India have taken the lead.

China was the country of origin for 147,000 recent U.S. immigrants in 2013, while Mexico sent just 125,000, according to a Census Bureau study by researcher Eric Jensen and others. India, with 129,000 immigrants, also topped Mexico, though the two countries’ results weren’t statistically different from each other.

For the study, presented last week at the Population Association of America conference in San Diego, researchers analyzed annual immigration data for 2000 to 2013 from the American Community Survey.

The mandatory annual survey conducted by the Census Bureau asks where respondents lived the year before. Researchers counted as an “immigrant” any foreign-born person in the U.S. who said they previously lived abroad, without asking about legal status. (So while the data include undocumented immigrants, it may undercount them.)

A year earlier, in 2012, Mexico and China had been basically tied for top-sending country—with Mexico at 125,000 and China at 124,000.

It isn’t just China and India. Several of the top immigrant-sending countries in 2013 were from Asia, including South Korea, the Philippines and Japan.

For a decade, immigration from China and India, which boast the world’s largest populations, has been rising as increasing numbers move to the U.S. to study, work and unite with families already in the country.

Meanwhile, immigration from Mexico has been declining due to improvements in the Mexican economy and lower Mexican birthrates. More recently, the U.S. recession also reduced illegal immigration from Mexico.



(your link does not take me to any particular article)

Also note that about half of all those in the country illegally entered legally- not by sneaking across the border but by coming in through the front door and staying.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

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(your link does not take me to any particular article)

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I found the articles.

[Anti Federalist]

Tell you what...

Build the wall, then rescind the "Constitution Free Zones".

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/constitutionfreezonemap.png

[goldenequity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTFZwHfYwj8

[Zippyjuan]

How well did that Berlin Wall thing work out? Were people inside it better off than the ones outside?

[FSP-Rebel]

http://i66.tinypic.com/34ewcxj.jpg
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/trump-administration-releases-map-proposed-border-wall

[PatriotOne]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/immigrants-to-u-s-from-china-top-those-from-mexico-1430699284



(your link does not take me to any particular article)

Also note that about half of all those in the country illegally entered legally- not by sneaking across the border but by coming in through the front door and staying.

Your billionaire blog citation owned by Murdoch, who supports both the Bush Crime Syndicate and the Clinton Crime Syndicate, does not impress me.

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4iWvedIhWjM/hqdefault.jpg



With the height and size put giant LED projectors on our side, could always sell advertising space on it to offset costs. Someone doesn't like the new view of the wall? Pay to put some scenic view...

[CaptainAmerica]

Good luck building the wall. Almost every construction project has multitudes of Mexicans working (efficiently, and usually for cheap).

This wall is no good for America. So sad to see the US collapsing all around us.
it is federal, Im sure he intends to use the military to build it

[Pauls' Revere]

I bought shares in "CEMEX" ticker CX. One of the largest cement produces in North America. They are going to have to pour a lot of it.

[CPUd]

Maybe they will use ready mix?

[oyarde]

What will they be downsizing to offset the billions needed?

With the height and size put giant LED projectors on our side, could always sell advertising space on it to offset costs. Someone doesn't like the new view of the wall? Pay to put some scenic view...

You could lease bar and restaurant , billboard space on it .

[oyarde]

http://i66.tinypic.com/34ewcxj.jpg
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/trump-administration-releases-map-proposed-border-wall

Excellent . I support CalExit .

[oyarde]

As long as we're building a wall, can we use this route plan?

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2017/01/23/20170127_map_0.jpg
I would start on the Caly end .

[oyarde]

How far do you space the turrets?

Romans had a standard , I think.

[asurfaholic]

Are you an illegal immigrant or something? You sure seem to have a low opinion of the American workforce who pays for the legal and illegal immigrants welfare when they don't work....lol.

Or I work in a top level position at a general contracting company and i see first hand how hard it is to find Americans that are willing to work. It's a fact. Most Americans just want high paying jobs telling other people what to do. But when you hire a crew of Mexicans they work together as a team naturally and efficiently complete any job you assign to them. I'm not racist, but this is my real world assessment. Mexicans lead the world in work ethic and positive attitude. White people say they want to work, but usually balk at it after about 6 months. Black people just simply don't want to work. But at least they are honest about it so idk it's a toss up there.

[Jan2017]

Most immigrants are coming from China- not Mexico. We need a wall between here and there.



Not true . . . immigrants from Mexico are from the only nation way over US immigration policy limits . . .
India, China and Phillipines round out the top four but all are a point or so below limits from INS existing immigration standards
(also, exactly what Rand has talked about early last year - we need to enforce what is already on the books).

Other Central America nations are below the limits . . . Guatamala and the Dominican Republic are in the top ten nations of legal immigrants,
and no South American nation was in top ten

Table 2. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status By Region And Selected Country Of Last Residence:
Fiscal Years 2013 To 2015
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2015/table2



2013
2014
2015




Mexico
134,198
133,107
157,227




China
68,410
72,492
70,977




India
65,506
74,451
61,380




Philippines
52,955
48,633
54,307

[Zippyjuan]

Not true . . . immigrants from Mexico are from the only nation way over US immigration policy limits . . .
India, China and Phillipines round out the top four but all are a point or so below limits from INS existing immigration standards
(also, exactly what Rand has talked about early last year - we need to enforce what is already on the books).

Other Central America nations are below the limits . . . Guatamala and the Dominican Republic are in the top ten nations of legal immigrants,
and no South American nation was in top ten

Table 2. Persons Obtaining Lawful Permanent Resident Status By Region And Selected Country Of Last Residence:
Fiscal Years 2013 To 2015
https://www.dhs.gov/immigration-statistics/yearbook/2015/table2



2013
2014
2015




Mexico
134,198
133,107
157,227




China
68,410
72,492
70,977




India
65,506
74,451
61,380




Philippines
52,955
48,633
54,307



Not all immigrants have "lawful permanent resident status". Does not disprove the claim.

[Jan2017]

Not all immigrants have "lawful permanent resident status". Does not disprove the claim.
Sorta the definition of "immigrants" that the rest of us use probably . . .
and the gap even widened in 2015 between Mexico and (#3 in 2014) China, so not seeing your claimed trend at all

In 2015 (last statistics available)
Mexico up 24,000
India down 13,000
China down 1,500
Phillipines up 3,700

[Jan2017]

Not all immigrants have "lawful permanent resident status". Does not disprove the claim.

The claim seemed sarcastic and off-the-cuff - maybe funny or ironic IF there was any element of truth.
But people will make bad decisions if given wrong information like that.

Also, the tone of defending the spreading of wrong/bad/misleading info is like the narrative that Mexico has somehow been cheated
in the immigration privilege - yet they have instead abused the law unlike any other nation's immigrants. What should the penalty be ?

It's time that the decades of disaster in Mexican immigration gets addressed and tackled,
instead of swept under the rug by politicians of both parties. Wrong info just promulgates the disaster.