Border Wall will be Funded by 20 percent Import Tax on Mexican Goods WAPO

[dean.engelhardt]

Trump spokesman Sean Spicer added a stunning new detail about the proposed wall project later Thursday, saying that Trump intended to pay for it by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.74092e45d96f)

Some may think that this is how Mexico will pay for the wall, but they won't. US consumers will pick up the tab with taxation through inflation. Mexico will not eat the tax, the US consumer will. Typical liberal thinking.

[brushfire]

Trade leads to peace, and tariffs are an attack on trade.

[Madison320]

Now that it's close to reality the wall thing is sounding pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

[dean.engelhardt]

Now that it's close to reality the wall thing is sounding pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

Don't forget about that big beautiful door in that wall.

[Schifference]

This is not Mexico paying this is US paying via increased cost for goods from Mexico. I think a border tax entry fee would be better. Any person entering this country from Mexico has to pay a fee.

[phill4paul]

Now that it's close to reality the wall thing is sounding pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

^^^.

[CaptUSA]

Government planners are all the same no matter which label they wear.

[Rothbardian Girl]

Lmao

[CaptUSA]

In before, "What he really meant was...."

[Schifference]

I think Trump should mandate that all Mexican's in Mexico need to be fitted with a non-removable electric shock collar and then he can just put up an invisible fence.

[Tywysog Cymru]

Make protectionism great again!

[dean.engelhardt]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16106065_10157968384850462_697136969426294575_n.jp g?oh=723b082b90ad4549e2118d049d74d4f0&oe=590EA371

[Schifference]

I think Mexico supplies lots of winter fruits and vegetables. I am buying mangos and avocados for $.68 each.

[69360]

Trump can send Baghdad Sean Bob out so say whatever he bids him to. The problem is that Trump as potus doesn't set the tarrifs on imports. Has everyone forgotten how our government works?

[69360]

Now that it's close to reality the wall thing is sounding pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

It's a 2000 mile border. Trump claims his big beautiful wall will be 50 feet high. This thing would be one of the largest engineering projects if not the largest in US history. The amount of concrete involved in that is staggering. I'm not sure we even have the capacity.

For all of us east coast people, this thing would stretch from the canadian broder to key west. It would take a day and half to drive the length of it.

Trump's wall talk is utter bullshit. It is in practice impossible.

[Madison320]

This is not Mexico paying this is US paying via increased cost for goods from Mexico. I think a border tax entry fee would be better. Any person entering this country from Mexico has to pay a fee.

According to a website I found there's about 34 million crossings each year (both ways). If you charge $10 a crossing, that's about 300 million dollars a year (some will stop crossing if they have to pay). Government estimates are 10 billion so it will cost at least 50 billion. If my math is correct 300 million/50 billion is only .6 % of the cost of the wall in one year. That probably won't even cover the interest or the maintenance.

[Schifference]

Maybe they should build it so that some type of patrol vehicle can drive on top of it.

[Madison320]

It's a 2000 mile border. Trump claims his big beautiful wall will be 50 feet high. This thing would be one of the largest engineering projects if not the largest in US history. The amount of concrete involved in that is staggering. I'm not sure we even have the capacity.

For all of us east coast people, this thing would stretch from the canadian broder to key west. It would take a day and half to drive the length of it.

Trump's wall talk is utter bull$#@!. It is in practice impossible.

I wonder what's the next biggest wall in comparison?

[Schifference]

According to a website I found there's about 34 million crossings each year (both ways). If you charge $10 a crossing, that's about 300 million dollars a year (some will stop crossing if they have to pay). Government estimates are 10 billion so it will cost at least 50 billion. If my math is correct 300 million/50 billion is only .6 % of the cost of the wall in one year. That probably won't even cover the interest or the maintenance.

Ten dollars is not enough. It costs more than that to cross a bridge in New York. Costs more than $10 to drive a few miles on a toll highway. Could charge $100. If people don't want to pay stay in Mexico.

[phill4paul]

In before, "What he really meant was...."

Lol.

[phill4paul]

I think Trump should mandate that all Mexican's in Mexico need to be fitted with a non-removable electric shock collar and then he can just put up an invisible fence.

Only if Mexicans pay for it!

[oyarde]

I think Mexico supplies lots of winter fruits and vegetables. I am buying mangos and avocados for $.68 each.

I buy nothing from Mexico , except beer .

[69360]

I wonder what's the next biggest wall in comparison?

Great wall of China I would think. It's like 3000 something.

[Superfluous Man]

Time to pressure Congress not to pass this.

[Madison320]

Ten dollars is not enough. It costs more than that to cross a bridge in New York. Costs more than $10 to drive a few miles on a toll highway. Could charge $100. If people don't want to pay stay in Mexico.

It's nowhere near $10 to drive a few miles on a toll road. More like 10 cents. But if you charge $100 a person the number of people crossing goes down and the revenue stays about constant. The point is that it's not even remotely close to paying for the wall.

Let me try some more math. 2,000 miles X 5,280 = About 10 million feet of fence. You can get really nice privacy fence installed for about $20 a foot so that's 200 million to build a privacy fence on the border. You could have that paid for in less than a year.

[georgiaboy]

But will it be visible from outer space?

[oyarde]

Time to pressure Congress not to pass this.

I am interested in seeing a bill of how they intend to pay for it .

[oyarde]

But will it be visible from outer space?

Should be , yes .

[oyarde]

Great wall of China I would think. It's like 3000 something.
Hadrians Wall was 73 miles with a Fort every five . Ten feet wide , 20 feet tall . Took 6 years . I think the entire length of the China wall at one time would have been around 13000 miles .

[phill4paul]

Hadrians Wall was 73 miles with a Fort every five . Ten feet wide , 20 feet tall . Took 6 years . I think the entire length of the China wall at one time would have been around 13000 miles .

I propose a wall. 1,999.999999 miles is a big beautiful door.

[silverhandorder]

Too many liberals here. Also lol at those who said it won't be done. It's a virtual wall. And you are virtually correct.

[CPUd]

824727394783285248
https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/824727394783285248

[69360]

Hadrians Wall was 73 miles with a Fort every five . Ten feet wide , 20 feet tall . Took 6 years . I think the entire length of the China wall at one time would have been around 13000 miles .

There are a lot of definitions of what is the great wall. Some of it was just dirt mounds and trenches. The part we think of as a wall, aka what trump wants to build is around 3000 ish.

[69360]

Too many liberals here. Also lol at those who said it won't be done. It's a virtual wall. And you are virtually correct.

It's an alternative wall.

[agitator]

Trade leads to peace, and tariffs are an attack on trade.

Mexico sending their drug finance army north? Lol.

Hmmm, a consumption tax, or an income tax to pay for all the illegals partaking in our welfare...let me think about that for a minute...

[oyarde]

Well , how long will it be to wall out California ?

[TheCount]

Some here will still support this.

[Ender]

I buy nothing from Mexico , except beer .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adVZt0pzC3s

[oyarde]

US Border Patrol Chief Resigns .

[brushfire]

Mexico sending their drug finance army north? Lol.

Hmmm, a consumption tax, or an income tax to pay for all the illegals partaking in our welfare...let me think about that for a minute...

With all due respect, you may be a bit short sighted. Whos to say, if we damage our relationship with our neighbors, that they wont get friendly with our enemies. Maybe a Chinese port, or military installation? Trade builds strong alliances and benefit both parties. What are your thoughts on sugar? Why is that so expensive? Who is really benefiting from the tariffs? You may be willing to pay more, but it impacts people of lower income.

I'd rather just penalize the sh!t out of any business that hires illegal aliens. I would also withhold all federal money from so called sanctuary cities - use that to pay for your wall. The money will dry up before you had completed the first mile because all the illegals would be fleeing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urSe86zpLI4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBkBv4EmAJI

[Zippyjuan]

I buy nothing from Mexico , except beer .

You might be surprised. They are our third biggest trading partner- behind China and Canada. Close to $300 billion in trade each way a year. Also our #3 source for imported oil- behind Canada and only barely behind Saudi Arabia. Lots of winter foods and vegetables come from Mexico.

http://ei.marketwatch.com//Multimedia/2017/01/26/Photos/NS/MW-FE541_us_mex_20170126130501_NS.jpg?uuid=f5162584-e3f1-11e6-9f1f-001cc448aede

[oyarde]

You might be surprised. They are our third biggest trading partner- behind China and Canada. Close to $300 billion in trade each way a year. Also our #3 source for imported oil- behind Canada and only barely behind Saudi Arabia. Lots of winter foods and vegetables come from Mexico.

http://ei.marketwatch.com//Multimedia/2017/01/26/Photos/NS/MW-FE541_us_mex_20170126130501_NS.jpg?uuid=f5162584-e3f1-11e6-9f1f-001cc448aede

Nah , I am familiar with the auto industry . I have no intention of buying vehicles now that I am retired .

[oyarde]

I actually get my winter fruit from Chile .

[phill4paul]

You might be surprised. They are our third biggest trading partner- behind China and Canada. Close to $300 billion in trade each way a year. Also our #3 source for imported oil- behind Canada and only barely behind Saudi Arabia. Lots of winter foods and vegetables come from Mexico.

http://ei.marketwatch.com//Multimedia/2017/01/26/Photos/NS/MW-FE541_us_mex_20170126130501_NS.jpg?uuid=f5162584-e3f1-11e6-9f1f-001cc448aede

That doesn't seem an equitable chart.

[Zippyjuan]

That doesn't seem an equitable chart.

Mexico does currently run a trade surplus with the US. We import about $300 billion a year to them while they export about $250 billion a year to us.

Import taxes will hurt US consumers. We will be the ones paying the tax.

[CPUd]

Border Wall Tax on Mexican Crude Oil Would Cost U.S. Drivers


U.S. motorists probably would foot the bill for President Donald Trump’s 20 percent border-wall tax as domestic refiners reliant on Mexican crude pass on the cost.

Less than a week after assuming office, the Trump administration indicated it may impose the levy on imports from Mexico to finance construction of a barrier along the southern U.S. border. American companies imported about $14 billion in oil and related products in 2015, government data show. White House press secretary Sean Spicer noted that the tax was only one idea being mulled to pay for the wall, a cornerstone of Trump’s campaign.

The tax, which Spicer characterized in a briefing Thursday as "theoretical," would apply to countries with which the U.S. has a trade deficit. That would seemingly exempt Canada, with which the U.S. ran a surplus of $11.9 billion in 2015. However it may include Saudi Arabia, the second-largest foreign supplier of crude to the U.S., which sent $31 billion more to the U.S. than it took back in 2012.

Most U.S. refineries reside inside Foreign Trade Zones, including the biggest U.S. importer of Mexican crude, a joint venture owned by Royal Dutch Shell Plc and Mexico’s state-controlled driller Petroleos Mexicanos.
...
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-01-26/border-wall-tax-on-mexican-crude-oil-would-bleed-u-s-drivers

[Superfluous Man]

U.S. motorists probably would foot the bill for President Donald Trump’s 20 percent border-wall tax as domestic refiners reliant on Mexican crude pass on the cost.

That will be easy to deal with. Trump can just order them not to pass on the cost.

[DGambler]

I hate the wall idea, despise it... It can easily be flipped from keeping people out to keeping people in.

Bad bad karma if this monster gets built.

[agitator]

I hate the wall idea, despise it... It can easily be flipped from keeping people out to keeping people in.

Bad bad karma if this monster gets built.


Pretty easy to cross the border into Canada illegally if you wish.

[Ender]

I hate the wall idea, despise it... It can easily be flipped from keeping people out to keeping people in.

Bad bad karma if this monster gets built.

Agree.

[TheCount]

That will be easy to deal with. Trump can just order them not to pass on the cost.Make America Venezuela Again

[AngryCanadian]

An actual wall wont happen.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Some here will still support this.

That's is funny coming from a big gov, big tax supporter. You support big government, so good job creating the monster you can't control.

And nice try attempting to be disruptive on this site. Classic.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Make America Venezuela Again


You miss Chavez huh?

[silverhandorder]

It's an alternative wall.

Lol you lost.

[CaptUSA]

That doesn't seem an equitable chart.

Come on, you know better than this. The "equity" lies in each trade. They get something and we get something in return. It doesn't matter who gets the goods and who gets the monetary units. Even if there was a 100% trade imbalance, that would mean Mexico would get 100% of the dollars and we'd get 100% of the goods. There's your real "equity".

[shakey1]

Trump wants to build this wall & have Mexico pay for it, but initially we would pay for it thru taxation, etc... but he says he'll get Mexico to reimburse for the cost. In the highly unlikely event that happens, we taxpayers will still never see a penny of it. Just more smoke & mirrors.:mad:

http://images.askmen.com/1200x600/video/uncategorized/mayor-quimby-the-simpsons-video-1072666-TwoByOne.jpg

[dean.engelhardt]

Come on, you know better than this. The "equity" lies in each trade. They get something and we get something in return. It doesn't matter who gets the goods and who gets the monetary units. Even if there was a 100% trade imbalance, that would mean Mexico would get 100% of the dollars and we'd get 100% of the goods. There's your real "equity".

Very good point. Hate to derail this thread, and the subject deserves it's own thread, but American cannot export as many goods as it imports because we consume to much compared to other countries.


Tilford cites a litany of sobering statistics showing just how profligate Americans have been in using and abusing natural resources. For example, between 1900 and 1989 U.S. population tripled while its use of raw materials grew by a factor of 17. “With less than 5 percent of world population, the U.S. uses one-third of the world’s paper, a quarter of the world’s oil, 23 percent of the coal, 27 percent of the aluminum, and 19 percent of the copper,” he reports. “Our per capita use of energy, metals, minerals, forest products, fish, grains, meat, and even fresh water dwarfs that of people living in the developing world.”

He adds that the U.S. ranks highest in most consumer categories by a considerable margin, even among industrial nations. To wit, American fossil fuel consumption is double that of the average resident of Great Britain and two and a half times that of the average Japanese. Meanwhile, Americans account for only five percent of the world’s population but create half of the globe’s solid waste.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/american-consumption-habits/

The US represents about 6% of the world population but consumes over 20% of the goods, services and raw material. If the US consumed 2/3 less than they do now, then we would could achieve this "idea" of equal trade. A byproduct would be there would be an equal standard of living. That would put the US worker on equal economic status with that Mexican worker; not something that would go over very well in the US.

The thought that we could domestically manufacture everything we consume in the US would be a strain on the raw material and resourses. If we tried to triple the output of labor in the US, that would require an massively large number of immigrant workers. That is not happening anytime soon in the Trump administration.

[Pizzo]

Too many liberals here. Also lol at those who said it won't be done. It's a virtual wall. And you are virtually correct.

So being against incresed taxes is a liberal thing now? Fuck, i can't keep up with you statists constantly switching ideologies.

[TheCount]

So being against incresed taxes is a liberal thing now? Fuck, i can't keep up with you statists constantly switching ideologies.This tax is a magic tax which Mexico will pay. There's no way it will be paid by Americans.




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[jllundqu]

I buy nothing from Mexico , except beer .

Stay thirsty, my friends.

[tod evans]

Sorry to distract from discussion about the Glorious Wall but if illegals are such a sticky-widget and 40+% are arriving by plane how is the Glorious Wall going to affect them?

[EBounding]

It's about sending a message. I want to be able to see "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" from space!

[jbauer]

I think Trump should mandate that all Mexican's in Mexico need to be fitted with a non-removable electric shock collar and then he can just put up an invisible fence. right, but if you run really fast past wall as soon as the collar is out of range of the fence = no more shock.

[69360]

Sorry to distract from discussion about the Glorious Wall but if illegals are such a sticky-widget and 40+% are arriving by plane how is the Glorious Wall going to affect them?

The wall will have a moat. In this moat will be sharks with lasers. The sharks will shoot down any plane carrying illegals with their laser beams.

MAGA

[Dr.3D]

right, but if you run really fast past wall as soon as the collar is out of range of the fence = no more shock.
Well, there are collars that shock when the collar is too far away from the transmitter.

[FunkBuddha]

The wall will have a moat. In this moat will be sharks with lasers. The sharks will shoot down any plane carrying illegals with their laser beams.

MAGA

+1

A wall without a moat is just a distraction. A wall with a moat is truly formidable. Hopefully there will be port holes for pouring hot oil as well.

[69360]

+1

A wall without a moat is just a distraction. A wall with a moat is truly formidable. Hopefully there will be port holes for pouring hot oil as well.

I think the wall should have catapults and trebuchets. We need a way to deport those pesky illegals you know.

[bunklocoempire]

Make private property rights great again?
Make 2nd amendment right great again?

Nah, steal money from individuals to build a wall that government will control. Make government great again.

[presence]

I buy nothing from Mexico , except beer .

you'd be surprised

when you buy a parts for your car there's a decent chance they're coming from mexico
when you buy gas at the pump... good chunk of it... blended in from mexico
when you visit the doctor... his medical equipment... decent chance its mexico
rubber for your tires? mexico
fruits and nuts? a lot of it is coming from mexico
tequila; nearly 100% comes from mexico

and all of it is 20% more expensive with tariffs

[presence]

Sorry to distract from discussion about the Glorious Wall but if illegals are such a sticky-widget and 40+% are arriving by plane how is the Glorious Wall going to affect them?

bingo

most "illegalized" residents arrive legally...

then stay

In 20 years we'll see Trump Construction, Inc. made a killing on wall contracts.

[CaptUSA]

One thing though...

I must say I'm pretty amused by the media's new found mantra of pointing out the perils of protectionism.

[Schifference]

right, but if you run really fast past wall as soon as the collar is out of range of the fence = no more shock.

Yes, I agree. There is another problem I just thought of. If people charge thru the fence and tolerate the shock, they will be afraid of getting shocked when they try to return.

[devil21]

So Trump and Nieto agreed today not to speak publicly anymore about who will pay for any wall.

You know what that means. It's gonna be us.

[TheCount]

Sorry to distract from discussion about the Glorious Wall but if illegals are such a sticky-widget and 40+% are arriving by plane how is the Glorious Wall going to affect them?It's just theatre to make idiots happy.

[FunkBuddha]

I think the wall should have catapults and trebuchets. We need a way to deport those pesky illegals you know.

http://pre11.deviantart.net/fd1e/th/pre/f/2009/199/c/a/fetchez_la_vache_by_richardnixon1968.jpg

[Schifference]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpvqpzU7eEc

[silverhandorder]

So being against incresed taxes is a liberal thing now? $#@!, i can't keep up with you statists constantly switching ideologies.

History started with Trump? Also what about all the cute he has made to liberal bs? Yeah liberal. Bullshit.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

It's just theatre to make idiots happy.


Just like the mayors you support? You know, the liberal mayors in Seattle and New York hitting back on "sanctuary cities." Your Boston buddy mayor said he would hide people in city hall. Did that make you happy?

[silverhandorder]

Sorry to distract from discussion about the Glorious Wall but if illegals are such a sticky-widget and 40+% are arriving by plane how is the Glorious Wall going to affect them?

What about the other EO relating to refugees and immigration enforcement?

[CPUd]

What about the other EO relating to refugees and immigration enforcement?

Yes, with extreme vetting, this won't be a problem.

[silverhandorder]

Yes, with extreme vetting, this won't be a problem.
Yup. Only problem is that you can't be deported.

[CPUd]

Yup. Only problem is that you can't be deported.

My papers are in order shovel in hand all I do is MAGA

[Origanalist]

Trump spokesman Sean Spicer added a stunning new detail about the proposed wall project later Thursday, saying that Trump intended to pay for it by imposing a 20 percent tax on all imports from Mexico.

Some may think that this is how Mexico will pay for the wall, but they won't. US consumers will pick up the tab with taxation through inflation. Mexico will not eat the tax, the US consumer will. Typical liberal thinking.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3N1kBPWYAAPM-h.jpg:large

[Origanalist]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3Ny3VUUMAAByjK.jpg

[silverhandorder]

Cheers MAGA.

[Pizzo]

History started with Trump? Also what about all the cute he has made to liberal bs? Yeah liberal. Bull$#@!.

Your reply makes no sense. you called forum members here liberal for not liking a tax increase. Hence, my reply to you.

[presence]

Cheers MAGA.



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[Suzanimal]

you'd be surprised

when you buy a parts for your car there's a decent chance they're coming from mexico
when you buy gas at the pump... good chunk of it... blended in from mexico
when you visit the doctor... his medical equipment... decent chance its mexico
rubber for your tires? mexico
fruits and nuts? a lot of it is coming from mexico
tequila; nearly 100% comes from mexico

and all of it is 20% more expensive with tariffs

Yep, pointed that out to my Aunt and Uncle last night and all he could say was that's not the way it works. o_O

[Dr.3D]

Then there are those who will argue, if it costs more to get from Mexico, more will be made in the U.S., and thus the price will be cut by increased employment in the U.S..

[Zippyjuan]

Even with a 20% tariff, the wage difference is still to great for this to make companies move production to the US. The manufacturer is not paying the tariff- we are. It takes high and sustained cost differences before a company will make the change due to the costs of moving production. You may see some local production start but not anything significant.


http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/31/news/economy/mexico-us-globalization-wage-gap/


$75 a day vs. $75,000 a year: How we lost jobs to Mexico

He's a young, talented man chasing the American dream: a car, a house and one day a family of his own. And he just landed a dream job as an engineer at General Electric with good pay.

Except this engineer isn't in America. He's in Mexico.

Carlos is a college-educated, manufacturing engineer who makes $1,500 a month working the production line at a GE plant in Mexico.

He loves GE and sees a future there. His salary works out to about $75 a day.

"I really like my job," Carlos told CNNMoney. "I have to keep working harder and save money so I can get to a better position." (Carlos is not his real name. To protect his job, CNNMoney chose to withhold his name.)

Carlos' aspirations and drive could mirror those of any 24-year old American with similar skills. But his job is in Mexico, where GE has 17 manufacturing plants and 10,000 employees.

A typical manufacturing engineer that works for GE in the United States makes nearly $75,000 a year, according to an analysis of salaries compiled by Glassdoor.
That works out to about $312 a day ... or four times more than Carlos' salary.

That wage gap can easily explain why so many manufacturing jobs have left the United States. Since 2000, the U.S. has lost about 5 million manufacturing jobs.

[Anti Federalist]

So maybe the question is why can't you afford to live on $75 or $100 a day in the US?

[nikcers]

So maybe the question is why can't you afford to live on $75 or $100 a day in the US?

Why can't Americans afford to live on the world market value of their labor?

[Dr.3D]

Why can't Americans afford to live on the world market value of their labor?
Could it be that the EPA has made it too expensive to make things in the U.S.?

[nikcers]

Could it be that the EPA has made it too expensive to make things in the U.S.? something something monetary policy something something foreign policy something something interest rates. Google Ron Paul. :D

[presence]

Yep, pointed that out to my Aunt and Uncle last night and all he could say was that's not the way it works. o_O


That, in a nutshell, is how democracy works.

Most voters are ignorant or misinformed because the costs to them of acquiring political information greatly exceed the potential benefits. They can afford to indulge silly, false, delusional beliefs — precisely because such beliefs cost them nothing. After all, the chances that any individual vote will decide the election is vanishingly small. As a result, individual voters tend to vote expressively, to show their commitment to their worldview and team. Voting is more like doing the wave at a sports game than it is like choosing policy.http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/10/the-dance-of-the-dunces-trump-clinton-election-republican-democrat/

[nikcers]

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[robert68]

825371795972825089

The further Israelization of the US. Insane and ugly.

[nikcers]

The further Israelization of the US. Insane and ugly.

Giuliani: Trump asked me how to do a Muslim ban 'legally' (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316726-giuliani-trump-asked-me-how-to-do-a-muslim-ban-legally)

[Jan2017]

Giuliani: Trump asked me how to do a Muslim ban 'legally' (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316726-giuliani-trump-asked-me-how-to-do-a-muslim-ban-legally)
Maybe Rand's legislation will get more than 10 Senators in favor with the new President on board ?

Only 10 Senators Vote to Pause Immigration From ‘High Risk’ Countries


The Senate overwhelmingly rejected an amendment offered by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) last week that would have suspended visas to the U.S. from “high risk” countries until new enhanced security processes are in place.

Paul’s amendment would have designated 33 countries as “high risk” and placed moratoriums on refugee resettlement and visa issuance to nationals from those countries until the Secretary of State, Secretary of Homeland Security, and Director of National Intelligence certify and new processes to identify security risks.

The 33 countries included: Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Egypt, Eritrea, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan,
Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, Mali, Morocco, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia,
Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia,Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen,
and the Palestinian Territories.

The bill would also have required a 30-day security review of immigrants seeking to enter the U.S., even if the traveler was from a country participating in the Visa Waiver Program
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/10-senators-vote-pause-immigration-high-risk-countries/

[nikcers]

Maybe Rand's legislation will get more than 10 Senators in favor with the new President on board ?

Only 10 Senators Vote to Pause Immigration From ‘High Risk’ Countries


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/07/10-senators-vote-pause-immigration-high-risk-countries/
jew might want to look into why Trump is banning countries and why Rand Paul is proposing this legislation and you might see they have different motivations.


Trump gives National Security Council seat to ex-Breitbart chief Steve Bannon (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/28/lobbying-ban-trump-executive-order-isis-strategy)
"the aim of starting a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street."

[nikcers]

Giuliani: Trump asked me how to do a Muslim ban 'legally' (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316726-giuliani-trump-asked-me-how-to-do-a-muslim-ban-legally)
Giuliani Calls For ‘Detention Centers’ For Illegal Immigrants Who Commit Crimes

“What we should do is, first of all, we should develop detention centers for them, they shouldn’t be catch and release, they shouldn’t go to jail for five years for assault or attempted murder or selling drugs, and then go back out on the street,” The current system allows illegals to serve their sentence, and be released..“They should go into a detention center. They should be held, and then we should exert all the pressure that we have, which is enormous by the way, to deport them to the countries where they’re supposed to go to.”

[Zippyjuan]

So maybe the question is why can't you afford to live on $75 or $100 a day in the US?

Because people want high paying jobs.