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enhanced_deficit
01-25-2017, 11:12 PM
Not sure if neocons behind this but would they have released this verdict if SWC Hillary had won?
Was US a non-flawed democracy during last 8 years of DGP puppet or those of SWC Bush before that?
If US invaded another country to install democracy there, would that also be flawed version?
So many questions.

The US has been downgraded to a 'flawed democracy'



Elena Holodny

Jan. 25, 2017, 3:15 PM


The US has been downgraded to a “flawed democracy” by the Economist Intelligence Unit.
The downgrade reflects Americans' drop in confidence in governmental institutions, according to the EIU.
Americans’ trust in government has been declining since the late 1950s, according to data from Pew Research. Moreover, inequality in the US has been on the rise, according to data from Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs.
Populist politicians have tapped into these trends, the EIU said.


The US has been downgraded to a "flawed democracy" from a "full democracy" by the Economist Intelligence Unit in its 2016 "Democracy Index" report.
Although the report's publication comes shortly after the election of President Donald Trump, the EIU analysts write that the US was not downgraded because of him. Rather, they argue, his surprise election was an effect of the underlying causes that led the EIU to downgrade the US.

http://www.businessinsider.com/economist-intelligence-unit-downgrades-united-states-to-flawed-democracy-2017-1







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enhanced_deficit
01-26-2017, 12:31 PM
Today is again WaPo Neocons turn:


WaPo Neocons: Is President Trump surrendering America's moral high ground?

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The Daily 202: Is President Trump surrendering America's moral high ground?


Washington Post

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With Breanne Deppisch. THE BIG IDEA: Not even a week into Donald Trump's presidency, some liberal internationalists find themselves privately pining for George W. Bush.

shakey1
01-26-2017, 01:16 PM
No real surprise here... been a long time coming.

Ender
01-26-2017, 01:18 PM
UH..... AMERICA WAS NEVER A DEMOCRACY. :rolleyes:

Constitutionally, it is SUPPOSEDLY a Constitutional Republic.

Lovecraftian4Paul
01-26-2017, 01:19 PM
So they're saying we're flawed due to people distrusting the government, the MSM, and not having higher tax rates to redistribute wealth? Okay.

JK/SEA
01-26-2017, 01:31 PM
UH..... AMERICA WAS NEVER A DEMOCRACY. :rolleyes:

Constitutionally, it is SUPPOSEDLY a Constitutional Republic.

yep...democracy is mob rule.

Ender
01-26-2017, 01:33 PM
yep...democracy is mob rule.

Yep, again- 2 wolves and 1 lamb deciding what's for dinner.

Jamesiv1
01-26-2017, 01:34 PM
This is absolutely terrible.

I'm going to have to call my shrink.

enhanced_deficit
01-26-2017, 01:34 PM
So they're saying we're flawed due to people distrusting the government, the MSM, and not having higher tax rates to redistribute wealth? Okay.

Media neocons is probably also pissed that US politicians will no longer be supporting ISIS violence/Syrian destabilization/democracy spreading projects because Trump keeps beating all their favorite puppets one after another.

Very flawed shift in freedom democracy spreading policy.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr3hTOlWEAATRBf.jpg

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/media/120763/hillary-isis-575x347.jpg?width=444px&height=268px

Tywysog Cymru
01-26-2017, 01:41 PM
UH..... AMERICA WAS NEVER A DEMOCRACY. :rolleyes:

Constitutionally, it is SUPPOSEDLY a Constitutional Republic.

That is true, but to be fair the general public thinks democracy just means voting and not having a dictator.

Ender
01-26-2017, 03:14 PM
That is true, but to be fair the general public thinks democracy just means voting and not having a dictator.

Then it's time for some edumacation. ;)

AngryCanadian
01-26-2017, 03:29 PM
No real surprise here... been a long time coming.
But if Hillary America would be at a Full Democracy?
:rolleyes:

phill4paul
01-26-2017, 03:50 PM
UH..... AMERICA WAS NEVER A DEMOCRACY. :rolleyes:

Constitutionally, it is SUPPOSEDLY a Constitutional Republic.

/drop mike.

fisharmor
01-26-2017, 04:00 PM
Does this rating mean as much as a Nobel Peace Prize?
If so, then we're really doing pretty good.

Zippyjuan
01-26-2017, 06:59 PM
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/01/daily-chart-20


AMERICA, which has long defined itself as a standard-bearer of democracy for the world, has become a “flawed democracy” according to the taxonomy used in the annual Democracy Index from the Economist Intelligence Unit, our sister company. Although its score did not fall by much—from 8.05 in 2015 to 7.98 in 2016—it was enough for it to slip just below the 8.00 threshold for a “full democracy”. It joins France, Greece and Japan in the second-highest tier of the index. The downgrade was not a consequence of Donald Trump, states the report. Rather, it was caused by the same factors that led Mr Trump to the White House: a continued erosion of trust in government and elected officials, which the index measures using data from global surveys. In total, it incorporates 60 indicators across five broad categories: electoral process and pluralism, functioning of government, political participation, democratic political culture and civil liberties.


A similar pattern of declining popular confidence in political elites and institutions has also been evident in Europe. Such disaffection helped cause the scores of more than 70 countries to decline compared with 2015. Although Britain is one of the leading exemplars of this trend, it was one of only 38 countries to record an improved score, thanks to the robust turnout of 72.2% in the June 2016 Brexit referendum. Despite all the movement in the middle, however, the extremes of the ranking are still in place. Norway keeps its spot at the top with a near-perfect 9.93 out of 10, while North Korea remains rooted to the bottom of the table.

Eastern Europe declined even more sharply. Russia for example has seen their rating fall from 5.02 in 2006 to 3.24 in 2016 going from "hybrid" to "Authoritarian". "Authoritarian Regime" runs from 0 to 4 points, "Hybrid Regime" from 4 to 6, "Flawed Democracy" is from 6 to 8 and above 8 is "Full Democracy". North Korea rates 1.08- an increase actually from 1.03 in 2006. USA is ranked #21 on the list. Russia is #134 out of 167 countries.

CPUd
01-26-2017, 07:05 PM
But North Korea had over 99% turnout in their last democratic elections :confused:

enhanced_deficit
01-29-2017, 09:35 PM
/drop mike.

I thought you meant /drop mic.

+rep in any case.

TommyJeff
01-29-2017, 10:32 PM
Not sure if neocons behind this but would they have released this verdict if SWC Hillary had won?
Was US a non-flawed democracy during last 8 years of DGP puppet or those of SWC Bush before that?
If US invaded another country to install democracy there, would that also be flawed version?
So many questions.

The US has been downgraded to a 'flawed democracy'



Elena Holodny

Jan. 25, 2017, 3:15 PM


The US has been downgraded to a “flawed democracy” by the Economist Intelligence Unit.
The downgrade reflects Americans' drop in confidence in governmental institutions, according to the EIU.
Americans’ trust in government has been declining since the late 1950s, according to data from Pew Research. Moreover, inequality in the US has been on the rise, according to data from Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs.
Populist politicians have tapped into these trends, the EIU said.


The US has been downgraded to a "flawed democracy" from a "full democracy" by the Economist Intelligence Unit in its 2016 "Democracy Index" report.
Although the report's publication comes shortly after the election of President Donald Trump, the EIU analysts write that the US was not downgraded because of him. Rather, they argue, his surprise election was an effect of the underlying causes that led the EIU to downgrade the US.

http://www.businessinsider.com/economist-intelligence-unit-downgrades-united-states-to-flawed-democracy-2017-1







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The usa isn't and never was a democracy.

TommyJeff
01-29-2017, 10:34 PM
That is true, but to be fair the general public thinks democracy just means voting and not having a dictator.
This may be true, but perpetuating the fake news which links democracy and USA doesn't help educate the general public.

enhanced_deficit
01-30-2017, 12:00 AM
The usa isn't and never was a democracy.

Perhaps so... but still a major league democracy spreader.

TommyJeff
02-01-2017, 11:38 AM
Perhaps so... but still a major league democracy spreader.

How does this statement relate to the subject of this post calling the USA a democracy?