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Valli6
01-24-2017, 09:24 PM
Trump restricting migrants from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.


Trump To Sign Executive Order Restricting Immigration From Seven Countries
by Tyler Durden
Jan 24, 2017 6:34 PM

Having taken on the Keystone pipeline and America's struggling manufacturing sector in a flurry of executive actions on Tuesday, moments ago Reuters reported, citing several congressional aides and immigration experts briefed on the matter, that on Wednesday Donald Trump will sign several executive orders restricting immigration. The president is expected to sign the orders at the Washington headquarters of the Department of Homeland Security, whose responsibilities include immigration and border security.

Trump's orders are said to involve restricting access to the United States for refugees and some visa holders from seven mostly Muslim nations including Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

Additionally, Trump's restrictions on refugees are likely to include a multi-month ban on admissions from all countries until the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security can increase the intensity of the vetting process. According to AP, citing two admin officials, among the executive orders will be plans for building a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and other enforcement measures.

...Trump is likely to instruct the U.S. State Department to stop issuing visas to people from those nations, according to sources familiar with the visa process. He could also instruct U.S. Customs and Border Protection to stop any current visa holders from those countries from entering the United States…

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-24/trump-sign-executive-order-restricting-immigration-seven-nations


Trump expected to order temporary ban on refugees
Julia Edwards Ainsley

…Stephen Legomsky, who was chief counsel at U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the Obama administration, said the president had the authority to limit refugee admissions and the issuance of visas to specific countries if the administration determined it was in the public’s interest.

“From a legal standpoint, it would be exactly within his legal rights,” said Legomsky, a professor at Washington University School of Law in St. Louis. “But from a policy standpoint, it would be terrible idea because there is such an urgent humanitarian need right now for refugees.”

...Detractors could launch legal challenges to the moves if all the countries subject to the ban are Muslim-majority nations, said immigration expert Hiroshi Motomura at UCLA School of Law. Legal arguments could claim the executive orders discriminate against a particular religion, which would be unconstitutional, he said…

...Other measures may include directing all agencies to finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States and a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits, according to the congressional aides and immigration experts…

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 09:27 PM
This guy is a wrecking ball.

Ender
01-24-2017, 09:28 PM
All those terrorist coming from Iran..... :rolleyes:

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 09:33 PM
Was Mexico on that list?

Valli6
01-24-2017, 09:53 PM
Was Mexico on that list?
Nope.

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 10:02 PM
Nope.

Liberty Eagle will be disappointed.

oyarde
01-24-2017, 10:17 PM
We keep a list around here too , Sacramento , Chicago , LA , San Francisco , Somalia etc

LibertyEagle
01-24-2017, 10:42 PM
Liberty Eagle will be disappointed.

Nah. That's what the wall is for.

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 10:46 PM
Nah. That's what the wall is for.

Really? That's all you got?

LibertyEagle
01-24-2017, 11:14 PM
Really? That's all you got?

Is this all you've got?


Liberty Eagle will be disappointed.

Dr.3D
01-24-2017, 11:18 PM
So will people from all those countries, go to Canada and then just walk south across the border?

Maybe we need a wall on that border too?

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 11:20 PM
Is this all you've got?

So is you is, or is you ain't, disappointed that Trump did not include Mexicans in this restriction?

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 11:25 PM
So will people from all those countries, go to Canada and then just walk south across the border?

Maybe we need a wall on that border too?

As I recall there already is a "wall" https://voicesoflibertydotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/us-borders.gif

Dr.3D
01-24-2017, 11:26 PM
As I recall there already is a "wall" https://voicesoflibertydotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/us-borders.gif
Yeah, and I live inside of it.

AngryCanadian
01-24-2017, 11:46 PM
This guy is a wrecking ball.

Why is he a wrecking ball?

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 11:48 PM
Why is he a wrecking ball?

He's all over the boards.

AngryCanadian
01-24-2017, 11:51 PM
He's all over the boards.
Well his doing more in office in his first week then Obama or Justin Trudeau had ever done.

phill4paul
01-24-2017, 11:57 PM
Well his doing more in office in his first week then Obama or Justin Trudeau had ever done.

K. I guess, Eduardo.

Ender
01-24-2017, 11:59 PM
Well his doing more in office in his first week then Obama or Justin Trudeau had ever done.

Ron Paul always said that he would not do much as a president- that most would be disappointed in him because he didn't believe that the presidency was a law unto itself.

Anti Federalist
01-25-2017, 12:02 AM
Good.

phill4paul
01-25-2017, 12:11 AM
I don't know the language. But, from the article it was mentioned "restricted" access. That means "vetted." Trump seems to have fulfilled a campaighn promise with this move.

Valli6
01-25-2017, 11:54 AM
If they follow through on this part, there's less reason to be concerned about people from countries that are not on the list:

a crackdown on immigrants fraudulently receiving government benefits

I would, however, like some assurance that the biometric identification system is something that will only be applied to people who come from other countries - not our own citizens.

...finish work on a biometric identification system for non-citizens entering and exiting the United States...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-exclusive-idUSKBN1582XQ?il=0

Of course, each entrant still needs to undergo some kind of vetting, - and - yes, plenty will be trying to enter from countries they are not truly from. Meanwhile, there is a temporay ("multi-month") ban on refugees from any country.

tod evans
01-25-2017, 11:58 AM
So will people from all those countries, go to Canada and then just walk south across the border?

Maybe we need a wall on that border too?

Too cold. ;)

pao
01-25-2017, 12:03 PM
Surprised he didn't include Saudi Arabia and Qatar on that list.

Brian4Liberty
01-25-2017, 12:10 PM
He is fulfilling campaign promises. If he is serious about stopping radical Salafi terrorists from coming to the US, he made a couple of mistakes though, as already pointed out:


All those terrorist coming from Iran..... :rolleyes:


Surprised he didn't include Saudi Arabia and Qatar on that list.

invisible
01-25-2017, 01:33 PM
I would, however, like some assurance that the biometric identification system is something that will only be applied to people who come from other countries - not our own citizens.

Sadly, I can only offer you assurance that it already is being applied to our own citizens:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?434223-Vermont-to-Issue-quot-REAL-ID-quot

And it's still being fought over in the State Legislature where I live. Last year, an exemption to the biometrics failed by one vote. Hopefully it'll go through this year, talking to some of the newly elected State Senators has revealed that they're good on the issue. Sure would be nice to have a driver's license again, I've been living without one for the last 5 years because of this crap!

CPUd
01-25-2017, 01:35 PM
in b4 extreme vetting

opal
01-25-2017, 05:05 PM
He ought to put George Soros on that list

69360
01-25-2017, 05:28 PM
I'm not necessarily against this as long as it's temporary. It's probably prudent considering the state of the world today.

But can he do this? I would think the ACLU etc are going to be all over this.

anaconda
01-25-2017, 10:08 PM
I believe there is an exemption for those fleeing religious persecution. Could that be a very large loophole?

oyarde
01-25-2017, 10:19 PM
Surprised he didn't include Saudi Arabia and Qatar on that list.
Saudi would be a top candidate .