Trump threatens to "send in the feds" to Chicago

[jonhowe]

Constitutional to do? You decide:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824080766288228352

"If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!"
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[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/815973752785793024

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[jct74]

Edit: How the heck do you get tweets to show up on here?

http://i.imgur.com/3tZkd67.png

[JK/SEA]

curfews are coming.

[oyarde]

Hyde Park , NY has FDR's library. Maybe there is an answer there :)

[timosman]

..

[unknown]

Because it worked so well with Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Bundy's.

[Origanalist]

Because it worked so well with Waco, Ruby Ridge and the Bundy's.

This time we should send in the Marines. MAGA

[TER]

What would happen if conceal carry was permitted to law abiding citizens in Chicago?

[ghengis86]

What would happen if conceal carry was permitted to law abiding citizens in Chicago?

What would happen if all substances were permitted in Chicago?

What would happen if we did both?

[TER]

What would happen if all substances were permitted in Chicago?

What would happen if we did both?

I think crime would go down, maybe across the board.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Bring back Capone.

[ghengis86]

I think crime would go down, maybe across the board.

Me too. Dramatically.

[ghengis86]

Bring back Capone.

Bring back Daley. Streets plowed, garbage picked up and trains ran on time!

Serious though, there was plenty of gang violence during prohibition. St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Just a different black market product. Booze.
Remove state prohibitions, remove black market incentives.

[TER]

Me too. Dramatically.

Sales of Doritos would probably rise too. :p

[Ender]

What would happen if all substances were permitted in Chicago?

What would happen if we did both?

Get rid of the WoD, restore the 2nd Amendment, and BINGO.

"An armed society is a polite society."
-Robert A. Heinlein

[CPUd]

Donald Trump threatens to impose martial law in Chicago, and it may be over a feud with Rahm Emanuel


President Donald Trump is threatening Chicago and its mayor, Rahm Emanuel, with martial law, something which could have profound implications for the Windy City.

On Tuesday morning, Trump sent out the following tweet, threatening to “send in the feds” in response to Chicago’s violence


If Chicago doesn’t fix the horrible “carnage” going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 25, 2017

Trump’s tweet coincided with a segment on the Fox News show “The O’Reilly Factor.” A few minutes after 8 p.m., the program discussed Chicago violence and cited statistics similar to those that Trump had used — namely that there had been “228 shootings in 2017 (up 5.5 percent from last year)” and “42 homicides in 2017 (up 24 percent from last year).” One of the show’s guests, Horace Cooper, even used the term “carnage” to describe the situation.

The president also used the term carnage to describe inner city violence during his inaugural address. After denouncing “the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential,” Trump proclaimed that “this American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”

Earlier Monday, Emanuel criticized Trump for failing to focus on the important priorities of his new job.

“You didn’t get elected to debate the crowd size at your inaugural,” Emanuel said. “You got elected to make sure that people have a job, that the economy continues to grow, people have security as it relates to their kids’ education. It wasn’t about your crowd size. It was about their lives and their jobs.”

On that same day, it came out that there had been 40 murders in the city within the first 22 days of 2017.

Despite Trump’s apocalyptic depiction of Chicago’s crime rate, the metropolis is actually nowhere near the top of America’s most dangerous big cities. Its per capita homicide rate in 2015 was 18th at 16.4 out of 100,000 residents, with the ignominious top spots belonging to New Orleans (46.9 out of 100,000 residents), Detroit (45.0 out of 100,000 residents), and St. Louis (43.8 out of 100,000 residents). It was slightly higher among non-fatal shootings in 2015, ranking 12th with 88.9 out of 100,000. This, however, was still eclipsed by St. Louis (659.7 out of 100,000 residents), Memphis (247.1 out of 100,000 residents), and Oakland (232.4 out of 100,000 residents).

Coincidentally, one of the last major acts of the Obama Justice Department was to release a report criticizing the Chicago Police Department for rampant racial profiling and abuse of power. It seems that Trump is determined to approach the problems in that city from the perspective that there isn’t enough law and order rather than that law and order has run amok.
http://www.salon.com/2017/01/25/donald-trump-threatens-to-impose-martial-law-in-chicago-and-it-may-be-over-a-feud-with-rahm-emanuel/

[pcosmar]

He needs to get the black-ops under control.

Find who has been dropping cases of guns in allies.

Investigate the Fusion Centers.

[Anti Federalist]

Despite Trump’s apocalyptic depiction of Chicago’s crime rate, the metropolis is actually nowhere near the top of America’s most dangerous big cities. Its per capita homicide rate in 2015 was 18th at 16.4 out of 100,000 residents, with the ignominious top spots belonging to New Orleans (46.9 out of 100,000 residents), Detroit (45.0 out of 100,000 residents), and St. Louis (43.8 out of 100,000 residents). It was slightly higher among non-fatal shootings in 2015, ranking 12th with 88.9 out of 100,000. This, however, was still eclipsed by St. Louis (659.7 out of 100,000 residents), Memphis (247.1 out of 100,000 residents), and Oakland (232.4 out of 100,000 residents).

Strolls off...

[jllundqu]

President Trump: "We'll send in the FEDS!"

Founding Fathers: "You're doing it wrong."

[bunklocoempire]

"If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!"

To promote individual rights?

[afwjam]

Let them fail, Feds can't help, nor should they try.

[Jamesiv1]

"If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!"

To promote individual rights?
To drop the hammer on thugs and criminals. A gigantic swarm of National Guard or some such could clean that place in about a month.

#MAGA

[Anti Federalist]

Under What Conditions Can The US Army Engage Citizens: The Army's "Civil Disturbances" Primer

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-19/under-what-conditions-can-us-army-engage-american-citizens-armys-civil-disturbances-

by Tyler Durden
Aug 19, 2014 8:00 PM

With events in Ferguson deteriorating from day to day, despite the arrival of the Missouri National Guard, some have asked what further escalation steps are possible.

As a reminder, the reason Missouri governor Jay Nixon resorted to the aid of the National Guard is due to the limitations imposed by the Posse Comitatus Act which, broadly, seeks to limit the powers of Federal government in using federal military personnel, i.e., the Armed Forces of the United States, to enforce state laws. The Act does not apply to the National Guard, nor to the US Coast Guard, although the former will likely not see much practical use in Missouri.

However, as usually happens, there are loopholes and the best place to uncover these is in a 132-page primer conveniently released by none other than the US Army back on April 21, known simply as ATP 3-39.33 "Civil Disturbances." The primer begins with the umbrella statement:

Civil unrest may range from simple, nonviolent protests that address specific issues, to events that turn into full-scale riots. Gathering in protest may be a recognized right of any person or group, regardless of where U.S. forces may be operating. In the United States, this fundamental right is protected under the Constitution of the United States...

"Protected" it may be, but as usual, the interpretation of the Constitution is in the eye of the beholder, or more appropriately, gun holder. Because shortly thereafter we further read the following:

The Constitution of the United States, laws, regulations, policies, and other legal issues limit the use of federal military personnel in domestic support operations. Any Army involvement in civil disturbance operations involves many legal issues requiring comprehensive legal reviews. However, federal forces are authorized for use in civil disturbance operations under certain circumstances.

What circumstances? For the answer we turn to section, 2-8, whose provisions may soon become applicable to Ferguson and/or other municipal regions, should the rioting in the St. Louis suburb escalate further. To wit:

The Constitution of the United States provides two exceptions for which the Posse Comitatus Act does not apply. These exceptions are based upon the inherent right of the U.S. government to ensure the preservation of public order and to carrying out governmental operations within its territorial limits by force, if necessary. These two exceptions are—

Emergency authority. A sudden and unexpected civil disturbance, disaster, or calamity may seriously endanger life and property and disrupt normal governmental functions to such an extent that local authorities cannot control the situation. At such times, the federal government may use military force to prevent the loss of life or wanton destruction of property and to restore government functions and public order. In these circumstances, federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances (see DODD 3025.18).
Protection of federal property and functions. When the need for the protection of federal property or federal functions exists, and duly constituted local authorities are unable to, or decline to provide adequate protection, federal action, including the use of military forces, is authorized.

2-9. Laws passed by the U.S. congress include four exceptions to the Posse Comitatus Act. With the first three laws discussed below (10 USC 331–333) there is a prerequisite that the President must take personal action, including the issuance of a proclamation calling upon insurgents to disperse and retire peaceably within a limited time. The four exceptions, based on law are—

10 USC 331. When a state is unable to control domestic violence and they have requested federal assistance, the use of the militia or Armed Forces is authorized.
10 USC 332. When ordinary enforcement means are unworkable due to unlawful obstructions or rebellion against the authority of the United States, use of the militia or Armed Forces is authorized.
10 USC 333. When a state cannot or will not protect the constitutional rights of the citizens, due to domestic violence or conspiracy to hinder execution of State or Federal law, the use of the militia or Armed Forces is authorized.
House Joint Resolution 1292. This resolution directs all departments of the U.S. government, upon request of the Secret Service, to assist in carrying out its statutory duties to protect government officials and major political candidates from physical harm.

[bunklocoempire]

To drop the hammer on thugs and criminals. A gigantic swarm of National Guard or some such could clean that place in about a month.

#MAGA

So continue to ignore the natural results of ignoring natural rights, and do some cleansing. Got it.

[Jamesiv1]

So continue to ignore the natural results of ignoring natural rights, and do some cleansing. Got it.
whatever.

Fixing natural rights and what not sounds great, but that will take some time. Meanwhile, how about we get the thugs and criminals off the streets.

#MCGA (Make Chicago Great Again)

[bunklocoempire]

whatever.

Fixing natural rights and what not sounds great, but that will take some time. Meanwhile, how about we get the thugs and criminals off the streets.

#MCGA (Make Chicago Great Again)

You're not TheTexan. Are there two TheTexans now?

[Origanalist]

whatever.

Fixing natural rights and what not sounds great, but that will take some time. Meanwhile, how about we get the thugs and criminals off the streets.

#MCGA (Make Chicago Great Again)

I know you post a lot of satire, but this doesn't sound like it. I sincerely hope that you are joking.

[Jamesiv1]

I know you post a lot of satire, but this doesn't sound like it. I sincerely hope that you are joking.
What's wrong with getting rid of thugs and criminals?

[Ender]

What's wrong with getting rid of thugs and criminals?

Guilty until proved innocent.

[Jamesiv1]

Guilty until proved innocent.
hell with that.

I say toss 'em in some of those FEMA camps we keep hearing about.

we're trying to MAGA over here.

[69360]

I think martial law would probably be within his powers. It would be a stupid and egotistic move, but he could probably do it.

[Rudeman]

Feds going to a crime ridden Chicago? History just repeating itself. Also this wouldn't be Martial Law.

[Schifference]

I heard the argument that the FBI could target specific cases where convicted felon's were involved in gun crimes or other situations where the fed could invoke jurisdiction without declaring martial law or anything that drastic. Send in a tactical team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CdSuFZj1s

[BV2]

To drop the hammer on thugs and criminals. A gigantic swarm of National Guard or some such could clean that place in about a month.

#MAGA

You have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Chicken hawk.

[enhanced_deficit]

Constitutional to do? You decide:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/824080766288228352

"If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!"
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Flash back:



Spike Lee: Rahm Emanuel Tried to Bully Me Into Not Making 'Chi-Raq'
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/33118-focus-spike-lee-rahm-emanuel-tried-to-bully-me-into-not-making-chi-raq


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[CPUd]

Looks like another bad DGP investment:

http://i.imgur.com/jiNwihQ.jpg

[r3volution 3.0]

More Feds means more freedom...

...everyone knows that.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/880739852286918656

[Ender]

According to this site, Washington DC is one of the most dangerous cities in the US- maybe the FEDS should take care of their home planet first.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/in/east-chicago/crime

[Zippyjuan]

Sending in 20 ATF agents to deal with it. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-federal-agents-gun-crimes-trump-20170630-story.html


Twenty federal gun agents have been assigned to Chicago to join a newly formed task force aimed at cutting the flow of illegal guns into the city and cracking down on people repeatedly arrested on gun charges.

Hours after the Chicago police department sent out a news release about the task force, President Donald Trump claimed credit for sending in the agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.




Tim Jones, who heads the ATF task force, told reporters that 20 new agents will be working on it. That's in addition to 41 ATF agents who were already working in Chicago.

"We are a small agency, have a small footprint but we like to cast a bigger shadow through our attitude and effort, and we're here to help, so we're going to do what we can to work with our partners," Jones said.

When asked by a reporter if 20 additional agents is enough, given the scope of Chicago's illegal gun problem, Jones replied, "Me personally, we could probably use 500 more agents. We just don't have (those resources)."

One of the things the task force will be doing is examining bullet casings recovered from crime scenes in order to perform expedited ballistics testing and determine whether the casings came from the same guns used in other crimes.

These casings will be tested in a mobile van provided by ATF agents who will perform the tests through its National Integrated Ballistic Information Network. This way, Chicago police will be able to determine within hours — instead of days with the department's in-house lab — whether the casings came from guns used at other crime scenes.

Anthony Riccio, chief of the Chicago police's Bureau of Organized Crime, said the ATF's ballistics technology not only could help the department work more quickly, but also could help them link guns to solve more crimes.


At a news briefing Friday in Washington, D.C., reporters asked Trump spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders whether Chicago's crime problem was related to gun access.

"I think that the problem there is pretty clear that it's a crime problem. I think crime is probably driven more by morality than anything else," she said. "So I think that this is a law enforcement issue and our focus is trying to add additional support."

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

just build a wall around chicago and then tear it down once they all kill each other off

[enhanced_deficit]

Not against enforcing peace and freedom but caution should be used to not damage any historic landmarks in DGP's hometown.

In Chicago, Obama’s legacy is visible

Danielle A. Scruggs on 01.20.17

https://media2.fdncms.com/chicago/imager/u/blog/25175683/obama_murals-15.jpg?cb=1484974461
https://pics.me.me/in-hyde-park-chicago-on-our-first-date-i-treated-22228738.png








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The first Chicago exhibit from the Chinese activist, artist, architect, curator, and filmmaker who was detained for his views in 2011. This show highlights the artist's professional photographs paired with photos from his personal Instagram feed.

[tod evans]

just build a wall around chicago and then tear it down once they all kill each other off

Or flood it....

Think of it as the worlds biggest catfish farm....

[phill4paul]

Feds have things under control in Chicago.


FBI agent's stolen car recovered on Near West Side

Chicago police say an FBI agent's vehicle, which was stolen early Monday on Chicago's Near West Side, has been recovered.

The vehicle was taken with several firearms and tactical gear inside of it. It was not clear if those weapons were recovered.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/-fbi-agents-car-stolen-on-near-west-side/2176703/

[RonZeplin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pawg2H_lab0

Trump is keeping his campaign promise to "take the guns away". And Rahm Emanuel will help. What a team (from hell)!

“Basically, they will, if they see — you know, they are proactive and if they see a person possibly with a gun or they think may have a gun, they will see the person, and they will look, and they will take the gun away,” Trump said in an interview with "Fox and Friends." “They will stop, they will frisk, and they will take the gun away, and they don’t have anything to shoot with.” Donald Trump on Fox and Friends 9/16/16

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/297264-trump-calls-for-police-to-take-guns-away-during-stop-and

[AZJoe]

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