Is Sean Spicer the new Baghdad Bob?

[69360]

Was that press conference odd or what? This is going to be a crazy 4 years.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-slams-shameful-tweets-for-downplaying-trumps-inaugural-crowd-size-232820494.html

[CPUd]

LOL that guy won't last long.

[69360]

CNN apparently refused to air the first white house press conference. Strange times are afoot.

[anaconda]

Spicer is so annoying that I won't watch any video of him. Once was enough (interview with Jonathan Karl a few weeks back).

[Anti Federalist]

CNN apparently refused to air the first white house press conference. Strange times are afoot.

LOL - I have to imagine the establishment GOP is wetting themselves tonight, especially after listening to half a million screaming harridans outside their window.

So, FWIW coming from me, I'd run the same program: fuck the government media, fuck CNN, fuck the pussy protesters, fuck the garbage burning communists, fuck the Hollyweird progressives, fuck 'em all, full speed ahead.

Nothing the GOP and Trump says or does from here on out will matter to them, and I knew this was coming, just pretty amazing to see it start on day one.

Trump could heal the sick, make the blind see and make the lame walk, balance the budget, give away free birth control to every aggrieved wymyn on the face of the earth, paint the white house in qu eer colors and it wouldn't make a frog's farts worth of difference.

So, just get on with it.

But I know they won't...the worthless, spineless GOP "mainstream" will crimp and fold.

We'll be god damned lucky to get a clean repeal of ACA before they run for the hills.

[AngryCanadian]

LOL - I have to imagine the establishment GOP is wetting themselves tonight, especially after listening to half a million screaming harridans outside their window.

So, FWIW coming from me, I'd run the same program: $#@! the government media, $#@! CNN, $#@! the pussy protesters, $#@! the garbage burning communists, $#@! the Hollyweird progressives, $#@! 'em all, full speed ahead.

Nothing the GOP and Trump says or does from here on out will matter to them, and I knew this was coming, just pretty amazing to see it start on day one.

Trump could heal the sick, make the blind see and make the lame walk, balance the budget, give away free birth control to every aggrieved wymyn on the face of the earth, paint the white house in qu eer colors and it wouldn't make a frog's farts worth of difference.

So, just get on with it.

But I know they won't...the worthless, spineless GOP "mainstream" will crimp and fold.

We'll be god damned lucky to get a clean repeal of ACA before they run for the hills.

If the GOP and Trump's admin, eliminate ISIS with Russia in Syria within a year or so, everyone wins, expect liberals. If they can repeal TPP that would be another great victory.

[timosman]

We'll be god damned lucky to get a clean repeal of ACA before they run for the hills.

Pußßy power! :cool:

[69360]

Everything seems surreal lately. Every news report you read, you have no clue if it's real anymore. The white house is issuing demonstrably false claims. I have no idea where all this is going.

[EBounding]

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[69360]

This is getting wild. Conway just went on TV and called the lies "alternative facts".

If the the Trump administration is digging itself into this deep of a hole over something as stupid as crowd size, how are they possibly going to handle their first real crisis?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne-conway-cites-alternative-facts-in-tense-interview-with-chuck-todd-over-false-crowd-size-claims-171242433.html

[staerker]

Everything seems surreal lately. Every news report you read, you have no clue if it's real anymore. The white house is issuing demonstrably false claims. I have no idea where all this is going.

This has been reality for at least a few decades now. Where have you been?

In regards to the corporate media, but especially the White House.

[robert68]

This is getting wild. Conway just went on TV and called the lies "alternative facts".

If the the Trump administration is digging itself into this deep of a hole over something as stupid as crowd size, how are they possibly going to handle their first real crisis?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kellyanne-conway-cites-alternative-facts-in-tense-interview-with-chuck-todd-over-false-crowd-size-claims-171242433.html

Hopefully not well.

[donnay]

This has been reality for at least a few decades now. Where have you been?

In regards to the corporate media, but especially the White House.

Honestly. The presstitutes serve their globalist master. They have been lying and covering up for them for a long time.

Didn't anyone learn anything about the smears to Ron Paul by this same media?

[CPUd]

Honestly. The presstitutes serve their globalist master. They have been lying and covering up for them for a long time.

Didn't anyone learn anything about the smears to Ron Paul by this same media?

Trump is serving the globalist master? I thought he ran on "America First" :confused:

[donnay]

Trump is serving the globalist master? I thought he ran on "America First" :confused:

"The presstitutes serve their globalist master." I think that statement is clear.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/MBDyUNS.jpg

[anaconda]

Kellyanne Conway also threatened chuck Todd with "reconsidering" her relationship with him.

[anaconda]

https://i.imgur.com/MBDyUNS.jpg

http://yummychitchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/2012-12-08-Texas-spicier-spicy-qtr-chicken.jpg

[donnay]

Contrary to what the fake news has reported. Looks like a lot of people to me.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/photos-of-the-inauguration-of-presi/t01_632193104/main_900.jpg

[anaconda]

I think the issue of time stamps for the photos that some have mentioned is entirely germane. And what about possible photo shopping?

[goldenequity]

Just when I was SO EXCITED at the prospects of listening to some new, honest, plain speaking spox.
This guy is HORRIBLE...
simply awful.
Oh gawd... say it isn't so.
I can't take it.
I think I'd rather laugh at Jenn Psaki. omg.
Somebody please lie to me... tell me it's going to be ok.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4xjNiUn3o






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSLJV6yYGbQ

[anaconda]

This guy is HORRIBLE...
simply awful.
Oh gawd... say it isn't so.
I can't take it.


Cringeworthy. Poor guy seems rather miscast in my opinion. Hope he finds his way. I wonder what Laura Ingraham is thinking about all of this?

[AngryCanadian]

Contrary to what the fake news has reported. Looks like a lot of people to me.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/photos-of-the-inauguration-of-presi/t01_632193104/main_900.jpg

Thats what CNN failed to show. But according to CNN there were one million people at the inauguration! :rolleyes: yeah lets ignore the 10ks of international news media press that were there to.

[seapilot]

Everything seems surreal lately. Every news report you read, you have no clue if it's real anymore. The white house is issuing demonstrably false claims. I have no idea where all this is going.

The information age is over, welcome to the disinformation age.

[CPUd]

Contrary to what the fake news has reported. Looks like a lot of people to me.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/01/photos-of-the-inauguration-of-presi/t01_632193104/main_900.jpg

That's the official government story.

[TheCount]

That's the official government story.The official story has mysteriously turned from false to true in just one day for many people.

[donnay]

That's the official government story.

LOL! :rolleyes:

[anaconda]

The official story has mysteriously turned from false to true in just one day for many people.

Thousands of scientists and engineers agree.

[anaconda]

The information age is over, welcome to the disinformation age.

Many here at the RPF's have long been students of disinformation. It's just never messed up "official" stories and narratives so much as we are now seeing. It's a healthy sign.

[francisco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4xjNiUn3o


[QUOTE=anaconda;6402607]Cringeworthy. Poor guy seems rather miscast in my opinion. Hope he finds his way. I wonder what Laura Ingraham is thinking about all of this?

My first thought (before one word was out of his mouth) was that his suit looked like he bought it at K-Mart.

He did not do himself or his boss any favors in that press conference.

[CPUd]

823239956944584704
https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/823239956944584704

[specsaregood]

wtf gives a crap about the crowd size anyways? I'd like it if Trump cancelled the entire WH press corp get to gethers and just had his press secretary do daily AMA's restricted to US-only I.P.s and let anybody ask questions. screw the press whores.

[MelissaWV]

The official story has mysteriously turned from false to true in just one day for many people.

Personally, sometimes the official story has been true, and sometimes not. The truth seems to be somewhere in between. Claiming this was some kind of record was idiotic; there's no way to prove it. I do get the sense that viewership numbers are higher than reported (they are reporting numbers of people who watched on television, but almost everyone I know streamed it at work). There is also the matter of when the "empty white tarp" photos were taken. It should be an easy matter to review the images from the Washington Monument and find the point at which the most people are packed in there. The parade stands being empty looked awful, and it was largely due to people not showing, but also partly due to it getting dark and it having been cool and rainy all day. Do you want to sit in a wet chair once it's dark to watch some marching bands? Me neither. Especially with the prospect of 2-3 hours to get food and get to the hotel afterwards. That should have been planned for. The ceremonial signing of Executive Orders, with all the idiotic talk of pens, could have waited. The tea and luncheons and other bullshit could have been shorter. It was fixable.

None of that, however, makes that press conference look any better. Record viewership? Can't be proven, and in the absence of proof, they are NOT going to get the benefit of the doubt.

[CPUd]

wtf gives a crap about the crowd size anyways? I'd like it if Trump cancelled the entire WH press corp get to gethers and just had his press secretary do daily AMA's restricted to US-only I.P.s and let anybody ask questions. screw the press whores.

Apparently the Trump Admin thinks it is a big deal, the WH had an entire press briefing dedicated to it.

[69360]

wtf gives a crap about the crowd size anyways? I'd like it if Trump cancelled the entire WH press corp get to gethers and just had his press secretary do daily AMA's restricted to US-only I.P.s and let anybody ask questions. screw the press whores.

Donald Trump does apparently. This isn't about the crowd size. It's that Trump directed his press secretary to go out and lie about a stupid point that was easily proven false. Will Trump's vanity and popularity be more important than issues? It brings into question how in the world will Trump and his staff handle an actual national crisis?

[specsaregood]

Apparently the Trump Admin thinks it is a big deal, the WH had an entire press briefing dedicated to it.

I don't watch the news, so I don't know but before this press briefing how much time was the media spending on talking about crowd size? I doubt this briefing came out of nowhere.

[CPUd]

I don't watch the news, so I don't know but before this press briefing how much time was the media spending on talking about crowd size? I doubt this briefing came out of nowhere.

About as much as usual. If he didn't want to make it a thing, he should have let one of them ask about it and say, "who gives a fuck? Next question..."

[silverhandorder]

It's all about not allowing them to kill you with a thousand cuts. They will lie and lie and lie and lie. So if you make every fight a lie, you look like an asshole but you win. So I rather be an asshole as long as I win.

[anaconda]

[QUOTE=goldenequity;6402582]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G4xjNiUn3o




My first thought (before one word was out of his mouth) was that his suit looked like he bought it at K-Mart.

He did not do himself or his boss any favors in that press conference.

And why is he reading from a hard copy during the press briefing? He did the same thing in his interview with Jon Karl. I don't recall other press secretaries doing this. Maybe they did and I don't recall. Did the Trump team do any auditions for this job? He seems like some gangster out of a James Cagney movie.

[anaconda]

Would be quite amusing if Baghdad Bob became a viral meme in conjunction with Spicer.

[timosman]

And why is he reading from a hard copy during the press briefing? He did the same thing in his interview with Jon Karl. I don't recall other press secretaries doing this. Maybe they did and I don't recall. Did the Trump team do any auditions for this job? He seems like some gangster out of a James Cagney movie.

He lost a bet and had to be a press secretary for a day.

[CPUd]

And why is he reading from a hard copy during the press briefing? He did the same thing in his interview with Jon Karl. I don't recall other press secretaries doing this. Maybe they did and I don't recall. Did the Trump team do any auditions for this job? He seems like some gangster out of a James Cagney movie.

No, he was hand-picked by Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, it goes back to when they partnered with Team Trump to turn the RNC into a top-down organization and shut out grassroots conservatives:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?498056-RNC-Rules-Committee

[anaconda]

It's all about not allowing them to kill you with a thousand cuts. They will lie and lie and lie and lie. So if you make every fight a lie, you look like an $#@! but you win. So I rather be an $#@! as long as I win.

Good point. Except I'm not certain they get the win by simply responding with a transparent lie.

[anaconda]

He lost a bet and had to be a press secretary for a day.

LOL!

[anaconda]

No, he was hand-picked by Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, it goes back to when they partnered with Team Trump to turn the RNC into a top-down organization and shut out grassroots conservatives:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?498056-RNC-Rules-Committee

Nice strategy but isn't there someone else Reince might have partnered with?

[UWDude]

This is getting wild. Conway just went on TV and called the lies "alternative facts".



what lies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxMUnnuqd4s&t
This is the press conference, calling you out on two threads. State the Time stamp where Sean Spicer lied.


Donald Trump does apparently. This isn't about the crowd size. It's that Trump directed his press secretary to go out and lie about a stupid point that was easily proven false. Will Trump's vanity and popularity be more important than issues? It brings into question how in the world will Trump and his staff handle an actual national crisis?

You keep saying he lied, when did Spicer lie?

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/kZlZx7k.png

[UWDude]

If they can repeal TPP that would be another great victory.

His first set of executive orders targetted the TPP. The TPP is basically already dead:

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/first-executive-actions-target-obamacare-tpp

President Donald Trump began his four-year term of office with a series of executive orders and actions aimed at dismantling key policies of the Obama administration.

1 WITHDRAW FROM TPP

The new administration said its trade strategy to protect American jobs would start with withdrawal from the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact.

Of course, the MSM, CPUd, Zippy et all, want the discussion to be about crowd sizes and lies that were never told. Because they are agents of the media deceit machine, which does not want Americans to know that Trump is definitely plunging forward. They want people arguing over nothing and media generated controversies.

This is big News in Asia. In America, the big news is about the lie Spicer never told, but CNN said he did.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/Of95gWs.jpg

[UWDude]

B07 T35T

[silverhandorder]

Good point. Except I'm not certain they get the win by simply responding with a transparent lie.

If it was a transparent lie we would be having this discussion.

[TheCount]

If it was a transparent lie we would be having this discussion.Some things are blatantly obvious to everyone except those who willfully delude themselves otherwise.

[specsaregood]

so no mention of the other issue he mentioned about the media claiming that they had immediately removed the MLK bust from the office? which apparently wasn't true?

[Superfluous Man]

Contrary to what the fake news has reported. Looks like a lot of people to me.

It wasn't a lot though.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Some things are blatantly obvious to everyone except those who willfully delude themselves otherwise.



Right; like it's obvious you are not the "supporting member" that you claim. In fact, you're the opposite.

[Superfluous Man]

If it was a transparent lie we would be having this discussion.

Except it was a transparent lie, and we're having this discussion.

[Superfluous Man]

Right; like it's obvious you are not the "supporting member" that you claim. In fact, you're the opposite.

You have it backwards.

It's the Trump defenders who don't support this site's mission.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You have it backwards.

It's the Trump defenders who don't support this site's mission.


You're talking about a different issue. I am talking about TheCount.

[69360]

You keep saying he lied, when did Spicer lie?

Of course he didn't lie he just presented alternative facts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C20iNMHUoAEgwSR.jpg

[CPUd]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2wfbqhVQAECZI1.jpg

[silverhandorder]

Lol fools all your bases belong to us.

[anaconda]

If it was a transparent lie we would be having this discussion.

Even Kellyanne Conway asserted that the crowd size is not verifiable. So Spicier Spicy's comment seems pretty transparently deceitful.

[anaconda]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2wfbqhVQAECZI1.jpg

Subjective comments like this are OK. However, if Spicier-Spicy had made the claim that it was the highest grossing movie of all time, it would be a falsehood. If it was intentional, it would qualify as a lie.

[anaconda]

http://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-vector-spicy-jalapeno-icon-on-white-background-eps-vector-grouped-for-easy-editing-no-open-shapes-or-174040805.jpg

[UWDude]

Even Kellyanne Conway asserted that the crowd size is not verifiable. So Spicier Spicy's comment seems pretty transparently deceitful.

The ratings and streaming audience was quantifiable. And it was larger by 9 million people, which would dwarf any difference in actual inaugural attendance.

[Suzu]

CNN and countless liberal pundits and tweeters all showed a photo of what the crowd for the inauguration looked like early in the morning rather than at noon EST or thereabouts. YET on their own website is a pannable and zoomable gigapixel image that shows the actual size of the crowd. Those of you who doubt Sean Spicer and believe Chuck Todd et.al. ought to have a good long look at it:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

[Suzu]

Contrary to what the fake news has reported. Looks like a lot of people to me.

Yep. All the way back to the monument.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

[Suzu]

Donald Trump does apparently. This isn't about the crowd size. It's that Trump directed his press secretary to go out and lie about a stupid point that was easily proven false. Will Trump's vanity and popularity be more important than issues? It brings into question how in the world will Trump and his staff handle an actual national crisis?

How was it proven false?

Isn't the entire media/military/industrial/big-pharma/big-agra complex hating on and constantly lying about the POTUS a national crisis? Isn't the violence and division that's been fostered and magnified by the media a national crisis, or at least headed in that direction if it's not countered by "alternative facts"?

[donnay]

Yep. All the way back to the monument.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

Exactly that should shut up some of these Fake news followers. Even CNN can't deny it--since they posted it. LOL!

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/6ysvrda.jpg

[donnay]

https://i.imgur.com/6ysvrda.jpg

Keep on promoting the Fake news and you lose.

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/ivzyXdP.png

[staerker]

George Soros really knows how to bus people in.


http://i.imgur.com/ivzyXdP.png

[Superfluous Man]

Yep. All the way back to the monument.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

What image are you talking about? That one shows the same empty tarps, plain as day. They just aren't as obvious because it's not an overhead picture.

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I totally buy that there were more of these p**sy marchers than attendees at Trump's inauguration. But is it really a surprise? Washington DC voted 90% for Hillary. It's not like they need to find people very far to bus in with those kinds of numbers from the metro area who would despise Trump. It's also a no brainer that thousands more would show up to a Democrat inauguration like Obama's than for Trump due to the local political leanings alone.

[anaconda]

The ratings and streaming audience was quantifiable. And it was larger by 9 million people, which would dwarf any difference in actual inaugural attendance.

I think that's apples & oranges. For this to be germane we would need to know how many non-attendee viewers would have attended if they could not have streamed or watched TV. And we would need to know to what extent streaming has become more accessible and usable since prior inaugurations.

[UWDude]

I think that's apples & oranges. For this to be germane we would need to know how many non-attendee viewers would have attended if they could not have streamed or watched TV. And we would need to know to what extent streaming has become more accessible and usable since prior inaugurations.

It was the largest global audience, period. Streaming is way more available now, and because of that, more people than EVER watched the inauguration. 7 million on Twitter alone.

[EBounding]

The audience was smaller than Obama's inaugurations, even with internet streaming.

[specsaregood]

The audience was smaller than Obama's inaugurations, even with internet streaming.

I really don't give a shit about this topic; but I don't think that is even remotely true. What with streaming and dramalama about it all. I don't know anybody that watched Obama's inauguration, whereas pretty much everybody I know watched at least part of Trumps. Most watching to see if anything unexpected happened. And none of the people I know that watched it were trumphumpers or into politics at all. It was simply much more available/easy to watch this time.

[Jamesiv1]

The audience was smaller than Obama's inaugurations, even with internet streaming.
That is total fake news.

And only a dumbass would fall for it.

You sir, are no lover of liberty.

[EBounding]

That is total fake news.

And only a dumbass would fall for it.

You sir, are no lover of liberty.

I have many credible sources and they're the best. In fact, so many people tell me all the time how many great and wonderful sources I have, OK?

[Jamesiv1]

I have many credible sources and they're the best. In fact, so many people tell me all the time how many great and wonderful sources I have, OK?
No, that is impossible because mine are the best, more terrific, and more luxurious - believe me.

Plus, my information comes from secret anonymous sources deep within the intelligence community.

[anaconda]

It was the largest global audience, period. Streaming is way more available now, and because of that, more people than EVER watched the inauguration. 7 million on Twitter alone.

I have no reason to doubt this. It does not necessarily explain the turnout at the mall, however.

[timosman]

No, that is impossible because mine are the best, more terrific, and more luxurious - believe me.

Plus, my information comes from secret anonymous sources deep within the intelligence community.

You are so impolite today. Are you talking about your ass again?:cool:

[anaconda]

This guy is HORRIBLE...
simply awful.
Oh gawd... say it isn't so.
I can't take it.


http://www.joemygod.com/2017/01/24/report-sean-spicer-might/

[CPUd]

holy fuck


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI

[UWDude]

holy $#@!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWuc18xISwI

SNL stopped being funny or relevant decades ago.