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CPUd
01-20-2017, 10:23 PM
The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun


The effort to impeach President Donald John Trump is already underway.

At the moment the new commander in chief was sworn in, a campaign to build public support for his impeachment went live at ImpeachDonaldTrumpNow.org, spearheaded by two liberal advocacy groups aiming to lay the groundwork for his eventual ejection from the White House.

The organizers behind the campaign, Free Speech for People and RootsAction, are hinging their case on Trump’s insistence on maintaining ownership of his luxury hotel and golf course business while in office. Ethics experts have warned that his financial holdings could potentially lead to constitutional violations and undermine public faith in his decision-making.

Their effort is early, strategists admit. But they insist it is not premature — even if it triggers an angry backlash from those who will argue that they are not giving the new president a chance.

“If we were to wait for all the ill effects that could come from this, too much damage to our democracy would occur,” said Ron Fein, legal director at Free Speech for People. “It will undermine faith in basic institutions. If nothing else, it’s important for Americans to trust that the president is doing what he thinks is the right thing … not that it would help jump-start a stalled casino project in another country.”

The impeachment drive comes as Democrats and liberal activists are mounting broad opposition to stymie Trump's agenda. Among the groups organizing challenges to the Trump administration is the American Civil Liberties Union, which plans to wield public-records requests and lawsuits as part of an aggressive action plan aimed at protecting immigrants and pushing for government transparency, among other issues.

“We think that President Trump will be in violation of the Constitution and federal statutes on day one, and we plan a vigorous offense to ensure the worst of the constitutional violations do not occur,” said Anthony D. Romero, the ACLU’s executive director.

“We may have a new president, but we have the same old system of checks and balances,” he added.

Strategists behind the campaign for impeachment said they are confident that other groups will soon join their cause. They argue that Trump will immediately be in violation of the U.S. Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause, which prohibits a president from accepting a gift or benefit from a foreign leader or government.

Fein cited several examples, including rent paid by the Industrial & Commercial Bank of China for its space in Trump Tower in New York and potential ongoing spending by foreign diplomats at the Trump International Hotel in Washington and other Trump properties. In addition, he said, royalties collected by the Trump organization from the president’s business partner in the Philippines, who was recently named a special envoy to the United States, could violate the clause.

Trump said this month that he would donate “profits” from foreign business clients to the U.S. Treasury. However, neither Trump nor representatives of the Trump Organization have provided details on how such payments would be tracked, collected and disbursed.

The foreign emoluments clause has never been tested in the courts, and some scholars argue that violating it would not qualify as "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors," the grounds for impeachment of a federal official.

But Fein noted that former Virginia governor Edmund Jennings Randolph, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention and later the first U.S. attorney general, argued during Virginia’s debate over ratifying the constitution that a president who was found to have taken a foreign emolument “may be impeached.”

His group has mapped out a long-shot political strategy to build support for a vote in the House on articles of impeachment.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/20/the-campaign-to-impeach-president-trump-has-begun/

timosman
01-20-2017, 10:25 PM
I am not a bot. :D

enhanced_deficit
01-20-2017, 11:46 PM
Let me guess, same kinda idiots are behind this who awarded Nobel Peace prize in a hurry without waiting for evidence to a guy who later turned out to be one of the worst drone shooting gangsters & war criminals in US history?




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spudea
01-21-2017, 11:27 AM
hes clear from the emoluments clause because the foreign payments would be to the COMPANY, these are not direct payments to Trump himself. And he has taken the step of giving up control of the company. Impeachment is another pipe-dream and is proven wrong before they even begin.

CPUd
01-21-2017, 12:06 PM
hes clear from the emoluments clause because the foreign payments would be to the COMPANY, these are not direct payments to Trump himself. And he has taken the step of giving up control of the company. Impeachment is another pipe-dream and is proven wrong before they even begin.

Somehow I doubt that will stop these groups; the birthers tried for the last 8 years to get Congressional support, these people will do the same if necessary. But unless they have video of Donald lying under oath (he does have a deposition coming up), they will have about the same results as the birthers.

timosman
01-21-2017, 12:23 PM
Somehow I doubt that will stop these groups; the birthers tried for the last 8 years to get Congressional support, these people will do the same if necessary. But unless they have video of Donald lying under oath (he does have a deposition coming up), they will have about the same results as the birthers.

CPUd finally reveals his true allegiance. He is all in for Trump: 1,000% MAGA. His extensive trolling was used to rally the true believers. :cool:

FSP-Rebel
01-21-2017, 12:37 PM
Put the pipe down, CPUd. Ain't gonna happen.

CPUd
01-21-2017, 12:57 PM
Put the pipe down, CPUd. Ain't gonna happen.

Never said it was likely. But people are most definitely going to try.

LibertyEagle
01-21-2017, 01:12 PM
Never said it was likely. But people are most definitely going to try.

lolol

69360
01-21-2017, 01:21 PM
Do they not know the current makeup of the house? Impeachment is impossible.

Zippyjuan
01-21-2017, 01:27 PM
"Impeach Obama" also started about Day One. That didn't happen. Neither will this one. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/20/impeach-obama-stickers-no_n_168550.html

CPUd
01-21-2017, 01:30 PM
Do they not know the current makeup of the house? Impeachment is impossible.

Yeah, they won't cross party lines on impeachment and probably even most D's wouldn't vote for it right now. It would take something blatant + a national crisis.

UWDude
09-25-2019, 10:44 PM
Yes!
CPUd
Finally!

They are going to impeach Trump!

timosman
09-25-2019, 10:49 PM
Yeah, they won't cross party lines on impeachment and probably even most D's wouldn't vote for it right now. It would take something blatant + a national crisis.


Yes!
CPUd
Finally!

They are going to impeach Trump!

What they are doing now wouldn't count under these rules. :tears:

Slave Mentality
09-26-2019, 09:03 AM
The US is too divided now to have any solutions.


Americans support war, debt, and tyranny, but they are divided by race.


Nazis will probably move to Montana and Idaho to form a new country and forbid females from working and voting, close churches, and deport or kill homosexuals, Jews, illegal immigrants, negroes, and Muslims.


Communists will live in California and New York and nationalize businesses and have welfare.


Libertarians will move to New Hampshire.


Americans who want to escape the chaos when the US Ponzi economy collapses and Civil War 2.0 starts should buy a sailboat or travel the world as stateless and nameless nomads.







Shit, can we at least have Arkansas? Too cold in New Hampshire for my liberty loving ass.

Anti Federalist
09-26-2019, 10:33 AM
Shit, can we at least have Arkansas? Too cold in New Hampshire for my liberty loving ass.

Haven't you been listening to Greta?

It will be desert here soon.

Slave Mentality
09-26-2019, 12:04 PM
Haven't you been listening to Greta?

It will be desert here soon.

I can't stop crying for taking away her childhood.