Don’t Count On Trump Being Inaugurated

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Don’t Count On Trump Being Inaugurated

Paul Craig Roberts

The Ruling Establishment Does Not Intend For Trump To Become President.

The latest “explosive” fake news is that “multiple US officials with direct knowledge” told CNN that they have “classified documents” that Russia has compromising documents on Trump that would allow them to blackmail the US President. The documents consist of memos compiled by a former British intelligence operative “whose past work US intelligence officials consider credible.”

According to antiwar.com “the dossier claimed several figures in the Trump campaign were in league with the Russian government during the campaign, and that Russia had been conspiring with them to groom Trump as an ally for ‘at least five years.’ It also claims exchanges of information between Trump and the Kremlin for ‘at least eight years,’ . . . The dossier names former Trump adviser Carter Page, his personal lawyer Michael Cohen, as well as incoming National Security Adviser Michael Flynn as having personally and repeatedly met with Kremlin officials on anti-Clinton leaks.”

Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn is the former Director of the Defense Intellience Agency. If such a high level US intelligence official is repeatedly meeting with Kremlim officials and the CIA has to learn about it from memos written by an unidentified former British intelligent agent, the CIA is totally incompetent.

The dossier claims that in Russian hands are videos of “wild sex parties” staged by Trump on his numerous trips to Moscow. And it gets wilder.

The New York Times also ran with the story but did state that there was at the present time no confirmation for the story.

Consider these three questions:

How would a former British intelligence operative get such extraordinary documents from Russian intelligence?

If he had such documents, why would he hand them over instead of selling them to Trump for a major fortune?

Why would such a crazy story be on CNN and in the New York Times unless the ruling establishment intends to use it to block Trump from the presidency?

What this elevation in wild charges tells me is that the CIA’s effort to sell Trump on the Russisn hacking did not succeed, and the CIA has escalated its attack on the president-elect.

Here are the URLs to the CNN, NYTimes, and antiwar.com reports:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

http://news.antiwar.com/2017/01/10/leaked-dossier-claims-russia-has-blackmail-videos-on-trump/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?emc=edit_na_20170110&nlid=31655120&ref=cta&_r=0

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/10/dont-count-on-trump-being-inaugurated-paul-craig-roberts/

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[specsaregood]

The funniest part is that the US intelligence community has lost so much credibility with the American people, that now they have to make shit up and cite foreign intelligence operatives. lol

[Dr.3D]

Every thread I see like this one, makes me happy Trump is going to be President.

[TER]

Every thread I see like this one, makes me happy Trump is going to be President.

Yep. It truly is a sight to behold, as the deep state & government elite, the out-of-touch hypocritical idols of entertainment and the deceptive state-propaganda media outlets are discredited and deconstructed before the eyes of the citizens of this nation. Not only in this country, but around the world. It is like watching a supernova exploding.

Of course, Trump is not the only catalyst for this eruption. But his winning is certainly a major cause. At least, how I see it. And for that I too am happy, that the people begin to push away the illusion which has been sinisterly created for them.

[timosman]

Yep. It truly is a sight to behold, as the deep state & government elite, the out-of-touch hypocritical idols of entertainment and the deceptive state-propaganda media outlets are discredited and deconstructed before the eyes of the citizens of this nation. Not only in this country, but around the world. It is like watching a supernova exploding.

Of course, Trump is not the only catalyst for this eruption. But his winning is certainly a major cause. At least, how I see it. And for that I too am happy, that the people begin to push away the illusion which has been sinisterly created for them.

Sorry to reign in on your parade comrade but if you don't eat pudding how can you have any meat? :confused:

[vita3]

Paul Craig Roberts needs to take a few months off & get healthy &' happy & grounded.

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/10/dont-count-on-trump-being-inaugurated-paul-craig-roberts/

they really want world war and civil war at the same time?

[CaptainAmerica]

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/01/10/dont-count-on-trump-being-inaugurated-paul-craig-roberts/

also btw...this is possibly from 4chan a disinformation leak against the CIA. if it is that would be hilarious

[Origanalist]

I hereby predict the Donald will indeed be inaugurated. Take that James whatever number you are.

[enhanced_deficit]

In their desperation, war lobbies seem to have badly overplayed their hand. Seems like neocons continue to underestimate Trumpster.

Take down of McCain next? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506202-Take-down-of-McCain-next&)

[helmuth_hubener]

I hereby predict the Donald will indeed be inaugurated. Take that James whatever number you are.
Agreed. Obviously.

Look, I know this speculation increases suspense and is fun and most importantly generates lots of hits, but come on. Let's be realistic.

[AZJoe]

Will the CIA Retaliate Against Trump?
The CIA Threat
By Jacob G. Hornberger The Future of Freedom Foundation http://www.fff.org/2017/01/10/will-cia-retaliate-trump/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/01/jacob-hornberger/will-cia-trump/

In a truly remarkable bit of honesty and candor regarding the U.S. national-security establishment, new Senate minority leader Charles Schumer has accused President-elect Trump of “being really dumb.” … for taking on the CIA and questioning its conclusions regarding Russia.


“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you…. He’s being really dumb to do this.” …

No president since John F. Kennedy has dared to take on the CIA or the rest of the national security establishment or to operate outside the bounds of permissible parameters within the paradigm of the national-security state. … They knew that if they opposed the national-security establishment at a fundamental level, they would be subjected to retaliatory measures. …

Kennedy … after he was set up and betrayed by the CIA with respect to the Bay of Pigs invasion, he was at loggerheads with that agency for the rest of his presidency. After the Bay of Pigs, he vowed to tear the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds. He also fired CIA Director Allen Dulles, who, in a rather unusual twist of fate, would later be appointed to the Warren Commission to investigate Kennedy’s murder.

Kennedy’s antipathy toward the CIA gradually extended to what President Eisenhower had termed the military-industrial complex, especially when it proposed Operation Northwoods … and when it suggested that Kennedy initiate a surprise nuclear attack on the Soviet Union. …

The CIA considered Kennedy to be a traitor … One member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff considered the way Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis to be the biggest defeat in U.S. history …

After the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy’s war with his national-security establishment got even worse. … Kennedy concluded that the Cold War was bunk, that it should be ended, … He also entered into a Nuclear Test Ban Treaty with the Soviets, … He also ordered a partial withdrawal of troops from Vietnam he initiated secret personal negotiations with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev … But that wasn’t the page that the CIA and the Pentagon were on. … There was only one way that the Cold War could end — by finishing off the Soviet Union once and for all. …

Kennedy’s actions constituted a direct threat to the trillions of dollars in military and intelligence largess that would end up flowing into the coffers of the “defense” industry …

Kennedy was fully aware of the danger he faced by taking on such a formidable enemy. He understood precisely what Schumer just pointed out about the national-security establishment — that they have “six ways from Sunday” to retaliate. …

One possibility, of course, was a military coup … Kennedy was so concerned about that possibility that he persuaded a friend in Hollywood to turn the novel Seven Days in May into a movie to serve as a warning to the American people. The movie was an echo of the warning that President Eisenhower had given to the American people in his 1961 Farewell Address, when he pointed out that the military-industrial complex, which was new to the American way of life, posed a grave threat to the freedoms … Also, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK’s brother Bobby told the Russians that there was a grave danger of a U.S. military takeover if the matter wasn’t settled soon.

Another possibility, of course, was assassination, thereby elevating to the president the vice-president, Lyndon Johnson, who just happened to reject Kennedy’s view on the Cold War and who just happened to embrace the Pentagon’s and CIA’s views on the Cold War. Once he assumed the presidency, Johnson, immediately canceled JFK’s plans to withdraw from Vietnam and, working with the Pentagon, came up with the bogus Gulf of Tonkin attack …

Ever since the Kennedy assassination, no president has dared to tangle with the national-security establishment at a fundamental level. … As Sen. Schumer has pointed out, the CIA and other intelligence agencies have “six ways from Sunday” by which to retaliate.

[AngryCanadian]

Will the CIA Retaliate Against Trump?
The CIA Threat
By Jacob G. Hornberger The Future of Freedom Foundation http://www.fff.org/2017/01/10/will-cia-retaliate-trump/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/01/jacob-hornberger/will-cia-trump/

In a truly remarkable bit of honesty and candor regarding the U.S. national-security establishment, new Senate minority leader Charles Schumer has accused President-elect Trump of “being really dumb.” … for taking on the CIA and questioning its conclusions regarding Russia.


“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you…. He’s being really dumb to do this.” …

No president since John F. Kennedy has dared to take on the CIA or the rest of the national security establishment or to operate outside the bounds of permissible parameters within the paradigm of the national-security state. … They knew that if they opposed the national-security establishment at a fundamental level, they would be subjected to retaliatory measures. …

Kennedy … after he was set up and betrayed by the CIA with respect to the Bay of Pigs invasion, he was at loggerheads with that agency for the rest of his presidency. After the Bay of Pigs, he vowed to tear the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds. He also fired CIA Director Allen Dulles, who, in a rather unusual twist of fate, would later be appointed to the Warren Commission to investigate Kennedy’s murder.

Kennedy’s antipathy toward the CIA gradually extended to what President Eisenhower had termed the military-industrial complex, especially when it proposed Operation Northwoods … and when it suggested that Kennedy initiate a surprise nuclear attack on the Soviet Union. …

The CIA considered Kennedy to be a traitor … One member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff considered the way Kennedy handled the Cuban Missile Crisis to be the biggest defeat in U.S. history …

After the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy’s war with his national-security establishment got even worse. … Kennedy concluded that the Cold War was bunk, that it should be ended, … He also entered into a Nuclear Test Ban Treaty with the Soviets, … He also ordered a partial withdrawal of troops from Vietnam he initiated secret personal negotiations with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev … But that wasn’t the page that the CIA and the Pentagon were on. … There was only one way that the Cold War could end — by finishing off the Soviet Union once and for all. …

Kennedy’s actions constituted a direct threat to the trillions of dollars in military and intelligence largess that would end up flowing into the coffers of the “defense” industry …

Kennedy was fully aware of the danger he faced by taking on such a formidable enemy. He understood precisely what Schumer just pointed out about the national-security establishment — that they have “six ways from Sunday” to retaliate. …

One possibility, of course, was a military coup … Kennedy was so concerned about that possibility that he persuaded a friend in Hollywood to turn the novel Seven Days in May into a movie to serve as a warning to the American people. The movie was an echo of the warning that President Eisenhower had given to the American people in his 1961 Farewell Address, when he pointed out that the military-industrial complex, which was new to the American way of life, posed a grave threat to the freedoms … Also, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK’s brother Bobby told the Russians that there was a grave danger of a U.S. military takeover if the matter wasn’t settled soon.

Another possibility, of course, was assassination, thereby elevating to the president the vice-president, Lyndon Johnson, who just happened to reject Kennedy’s view on the Cold War and who just happened to embrace the Pentagon’s and CIA’s views on the Cold War. Once he assumed the presidency, Johnson, immediately canceled JFK’s plans to withdraw from Vietnam and, working with the Pentagon, came up with the bogus Gulf of Tonkin attack …

Ever since the Kennedy assassination, no president has dared to tangle with the national-security establishment at a fundamental level. … As Sen. Schumer has pointed out, the CIA and other intelligence agencies have “six ways from Sunday” by which to retaliate.


Kennedy was killed because he refused the false flag operation on Cuba. The 1960s era was completely different.

[timosman]

Kennedy was killed because he refused the false flag operation on Cuba. The 1960s era was completely different.

He was killed because their cooperation did not go as planned. :eek:

[openfire]

Sure, he'll be inaugurated, but before you completely write off PCR's line of reasoning, consider the underlying fact that the establishment clearly won't stop trying to take him down. They are relentless... This latest scandal shows that they are desperate and will stop at nothing to destroy him.

Bookies are now giving EVEN ODDS that Trump will be impeached in his first term!

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/american/specials/donald-trump-specials/222881036/

^Easy money if you think PCR is that far off base. lol

[Jamesiv1]

I hereby predict the Donald will indeed be inaugurated. Take that James whatever number you are.
I am approve of this prediction.

Even though it appears on the surface to lack discernable shenanigans.

[enhanced_deficit]

I hereby predict the Donald will indeed be inaugurated.

Agree.

Although the alleged British dossier author (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506194-Breaking-Trump-says-he-is-a-germaphobe&p=6396940&viewfull=1#post6396940) might not be able to make it though.

[Brian4Liberty]

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https://twitter.com/Rosie/status/819387158398173184