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StateofTrance
12-09-2007, 08:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5phHKuKmyg

StateofTrance
12-09-2007, 08:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5phHKuKmyg

constitutional
12-09-2007, 08:59 PM
lol, I'm assuming a lot of people speak spanish here.

10thAmendmentMan
12-09-2007, 09:00 PM
This is in Spanish without subtitles, by the way.

ladyliberty
12-09-2007, 09:00 PM
en engles por favor????

no hables espanol!!!

no comprende las preguntas in espanol!

Ilhaguru
12-09-2007, 09:00 PM
He did very well. Got boed, but then he got time to explain his position.

StateofTrance
12-09-2007, 09:00 PM
People are cheering him out.

homah
12-09-2007, 09:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5phHKuKmyg

Thanks! Will be interesting to see the crowd reactions at least.

10thAmendmentMan
12-09-2007, 09:01 PM
en engles por favor????

no hables espanol!!!

no comprende las preguntas in espanol!

I guess you have a reason to learn Spanish now. :p

StateofTrance
12-09-2007, 09:03 PM
Yeap.

Arklatex
12-09-2007, 09:04 PM
el burrow de el hombre ellos jamada Ron Paul dije que la vacca sobre la luna esta muy bueno.

adpierce
12-09-2007, 09:04 PM
Translation?

robskicks
12-09-2007, 09:04 PM
Damn, I got a couple things wrong in my translations...

ladyliberty
12-09-2007, 09:05 PM
I knew i should have paid more attention in class!!! :D

xexkxex
12-09-2007, 09:05 PM
Thanks! Will be interesting to see the crowd reactions at least.

It would also be nice to hear what they were reacting to. ;)

StateofTrance
12-09-2007, 09:06 PM
jajajaja..

10thAmendmentMan
12-09-2007, 09:07 PM
It would also be nice to hear what they were reacting to. ;)

Ronnie-boy didn't really say anything other than what he's been saying all along (no surprise there since he doesn't pander or capriciously switch positions). Pretty much exactly what you think he should say to each question, he does.

adpierce
12-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Hummm, since we live in America we can be expected to speak one language... English... this was a Presidential Debate it should have been translated into Spanish but theres no reason the English should have been inaudible to the television.

Perry
12-09-2007, 09:24 PM
By the way people this is a fantastic way to learn another language. Watch people discuss something you are very interested in and your brain sucks it up extremely fast.

ksu_s13
12-09-2007, 09:29 PM
Looks like my year of Spanish and my two years of Japanese did little for my understanding of this vid. lol

Knightskye
12-09-2007, 09:29 PM
Check out the Univision forums about the debate. They like Ron's sincerity, integrity, and honesty! And they don't like Rudy ("Rudy Giuliani es una basura" - I think that means "Rudy Giuliani is a trashcan").

Phil M
12-09-2007, 09:37 PM
Hummm, since we live in America we can be expected to speak one language... English... this was a Presidential Debate it should have been translated into Spanish but theres no reason the English should have been inaudible to the television.

It was on a Spanish language channel and was catering to people who speak Spanish. Nothing wrong with that.

seapilot
12-09-2007, 09:39 PM
Check out the Univision forums about the debate. They like Ron's sincerity, integrity, and honesty! And they don't like Rudy ("Rudy Giuliani es una basura" - I think that means "Rudy Giuliani is a trashcan").

More direct translation: Rudy is a piece of garbage!

They didnt like his answer about Chavez, well a lot of Rich Venzuelans probably moved to Miami after Chavez got serious about indoctrination of socialism and hope that the US will eventually strong arm him out of power.

Yet there is a large population of venzuelans that oppose chavez still in venezuela that just voted to keep him from getting a lifetime presidency.

Except for that question,(which he is right on) I think he came off pretty good.

ThePieSwindler
12-09-2007, 09:44 PM
More direct translation: Rudy is a piece of garbage!

They didnt like his answer about Chavez, well a lot of Rich Venzuelans probably moved to Miami after Chavez got serious about indoctrination of socialism and hope that the US will eventually strong arm him out of power.

Yet there is a large population of venzuelans that oppose chavez still in venezuela that just voted to keep him from getting a lifetime presidency.

Except for that question,(which he is right on) I think he came off pretty good.

What did he say about chavez? I'm assuming many venezuelan-americans want the US to take him out, and ron paul said his usualy non-interventionist stuff?

Phil M
12-09-2007, 09:51 PM
What did he say about chavez? I'm assuming many venezuelan-americans want the US to take him out, and ron paul said his usualy non-interventionist stuff?

He said that we need to not isolate ourselves from Chavez even though he isn't the nicest guy around. That caused the initial boo, from where he said that we talked to Stalin and Khrushchev and Mao, and Cuba would be a lot better off if we would talk to Castro (more boos)

Qiu
12-09-2007, 09:53 PM
Does anyone else think the Spanish translation was unnecessary? The guys in the crowd seemed to respond before the translator was even finished- suggesting that they could understand the English answers.

adpierce
12-09-2007, 10:02 PM
It was on a Spanish language channel and was catering to people who speak Spanish. Nothing wrong with that.

I'm not arguing against the Spanish language channel. They're a business with a specific clientčle that's fine with me, however I don't know why they found it necessary to mute the candidates while they were speaking. They could have waited until they were done talking and then translated what they said. In fact I'm saying their viewership would have been higher if people could have heard the candidates speaking English as well as the Spanish translation. More viewership means their sponsors would pay for the spots aired. It makes sense on an economic level, as well there's a high public interest in having the ability for the broad voting base to know what was said at these debates.

lbadragan
12-09-2007, 10:04 PM
Whoever got that suit for him needs to pick up 5 more. Makes him look bigger and more "presidential".

Politeia
12-09-2007, 10:11 PM
My Spanish isn't very good, but one thing was clear: Dr. Paul wasn't fazed by the boos, neither intimidated nor angered, he just kept on giving them the truth. And they seemed to cheer him on every other point.

For many in that audience, it's the first time they've ever heard a political candidate who speaks the truth rather than pandering (already the news articles are commenting on how the other candidates soft-pedaled their rhetoric on immigration for this audience); it was probably a surprise that'll take a little getting used to, but in the end the truth does bring people together.

When Ron Paul spoke to an Arab-American group in Michigan, he was asked if he had a special message for them. "No," he said, "just the same speech I give everywhere." At first a lot of people don't know what to make of this, but after a little thought most find it refreshing.

steph3n
12-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Does anyone else think the Spanish translation was unnecessary? The guys in the crowd seemed to respond before the translator was even finished- suggesting that they could understand the English answers.

it is true even on the univision forums people were talking about what a bad job the translators are doing :D

Myerz
12-09-2007, 10:21 PM
Just about useless for us English only people.....

user
12-09-2007, 10:29 PM
I still want to hear RP directly though.

lnieves
12-09-2007, 11:04 PM
I will say this as a libertarian Venezuelan living abroad: Ron Paul is right on how to deal with Chávez. Most of venezuelans living abroad just want to see the marines landing in La Guaira and taking Chávez out, i.e., they want the US to do the job they have refused to do themselves.

What they don't understand is that much fof the anti-americanism that fuels Chávez's support is due to continous US intervention in our business. I mean, just last week Chavez lost a referendum on changing the constitution and one of the first things he said was that this was a Bush victory and many of his followers believe him! With Ron Paul in the White House and a non-interventionist foreign policy the likes of Chávez would be disarmed completely when they try to blame their failures on the US.

And of course, that would greatly help those of us who want to see our countries embrace the ideals of individual freedom, free markets and limited government.

steph3n
12-09-2007, 11:10 PM
I will say this as a libertarian Venezuelan living abroad: Ron Paul is right on how to deal with Chávez. Most of venezuelans living abroad just want to see the marines landing in La Guaira and taking Chávez out, i.e., they want the US to do the job they have refused to do themselves.

What they don't understand is that much fof the anti-americanism that fuels Chávez's support is due to continous US intervention in our business. I mean, just last week Chavez lost a referendum on changing the constitution and one of the first things he said was that this was a Bush victory and many of his followers believe him! With Ron Paul in the White House and a non-interventionist foreign policy the likes of Chávez would be disarmed completely when they try to blame their failures on the US.

And of course, that would greatly help those of us who want to see our countries embrace the ideals of individual freedom, free markets and limited government.

nice words :)

split_lipz
12-09-2007, 11:11 PM
I will say this as a libertarian Venezuelan living abroad: Ron Paul is right on how to deal with Chávez. Most of venezuelans living abroad just want to see the marines landing in La Guaira and taking Chávez out, i.e., they want the US to do the job they have refused to do themselves.

What they don't understand is that much fof the anti-americanism that fuels Chávez's support is due to continous US intervention in our business. I mean, just last week Chavez lost a referendum on changing the constitution and one of the first things he said was that this was a Bush victory and many of his followers believe him! With Ron Paul in the White House and a non-interventionist foreign policy the likes of Chávez would be disarmed completely when they try to blame their failures on the US.

And of course, that would greatly help those of us who want to see our countries embrace the ideals of individual freedom, free markets and limited government.

Right on bro. I wonder if these people ever ask themselves why Castro is still in power and why Chavez has grown so powerful.

1000-points-of-fright
12-09-2007, 11:20 PM
el burrow de el hombre ellos jamada Ron Paul dije que la vacca sobre la luna esta muy bueno.

The donkey of the man they called Ron Paul said the cow over the moon is very good?

Duckman
12-09-2007, 11:21 PM
So the Chavez/Castro boos were kinda intense. Did anyone who watch the whole debate see any candidate get more intense boos than that? I am curious.

I am happy Ron posed the Cuba question directly in the heart of South Florida, where support for current policy is the strongest, and point out to them the fact that agressive posturing gives dictators something to cling to to stay in power, and that you need to negotiate with your enemies rather than simply attacking or isolating them. Everyone else simply has panded to the current viewpoint for votes, unless someone else agreed with Paul at the debate(?)

Tsoman
12-09-2007, 11:21 PM
I think Ron Paul did very well in this debate. I do wish I could have seen the reactions that the other candidates got to be able to gauge how he was doing in comparison.

His most popular points seemed to have been the one about keeping the federal government out of linguistic affairs, and opposing a national id card.

Goldwater Conservative
12-09-2007, 11:31 PM
He did very well tonight, didn't pander like the others did (the others were all fishing for easy applause), stood his ground as usual, and it was refreshing to see a format where the moderators were in control (although they didn't give him the rebuttal he deserved after Giuliani lobbed some BS in his direction).

The crowd seemed to love him, except for his position on Venezuela and Cuba, which I expected. What I didn't expect was all the love for English as the national language, cracking down on illegal immigration, and getting out of Iraq. Go figure.

Anyway, I was embarrassed by what was an audience apparently consisting of the many Miami idiots who think embargoes are good and letting countries chart their own course (even if they want to be socialist) is bad. Many of my fellow Hispanics are really just that predictable.

user
12-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Did everyone notice Ron Paul brought up Cuba after getting booed on Venezuela? Certainly nobody can accuse this man of pandering.

Delain
12-09-2007, 11:43 PM
Anyway, I was embarrassed by what was an audience apparently consisting of the many Miami idiots who think embargoes are good and letting countries chart their own course (even if they want to be socialist) is bad. Many of my fellow Hispanics are really just that predictable.

In a more positive light it means there's an opportunity to gain support for Ron Paul. I believe it's mostly a lack of education and just not having really thought it through. Good issue to address.

qh4dotcom
05-07-2011, 11:13 PM
:)

qh4dotcom
03-26-2013, 02:41 PM
The Youtube video doesn't work anymore...does anyone have a video of the Univision debate?

compromise
04-14-2013, 06:40 AM
He did very well tonight, didn't pander like the others did (the others were all fishing for easy applause), stood his ground as usual, and it was refreshing to see a format where the moderators were in control (although they didn't give him the rebuttal he deserved after Giuliani lobbed some BS in his direction).

The crowd seemed to love him, except for his position on Venezuela and Cuba, which I expected. What I didn't expect was all the love for English as the national language, cracking down on illegal immigration, and getting out of Iraq. Go figure.

Anyway, I was embarrassed by what was an audience apparently consisting of the many Miami idiots who think embargoes are good and letting countries chart their own course (even if they want to be socialist) is bad. Many of my fellow Hispanics are really just that predictable.

Goldwater was actually one of the early supporters of an embargo on Cuba.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2209&dat=19610503&id=EaQrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sPwFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3396,190746