U.S. intel report identifies Russians who gave emails to WikiLeaks -officials

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-celebrate-idUSKBN14P2NI


The CIA has identified Russian officials who fed material hacked from the Democratic National Committee and party leaders to WikiLeaks at the direction of Russian President Vladimir Putin through third parties, according to a new U.S. intelligence report, senior U.S. officials said on Thursday.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Central Intelligence Agency and others have concluded that the Russian government escalated its efforts from discrediting the U.S. election process to assisting President-elect Donald Trump's campaign.

The intelligence assessment was presented to President Barack Obama on Thursday and will be briefed to Trump on Friday. Trump has rejected the broad intelligence community's assessment that Russia staged cyber attacks during the election campaign to undermine Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

Russia has rejected the hacking allegations.

"By October, it had become clear that the Russians were trying to help the Trump campaign,” said one official familiar with the full report speaking on the condition of anonymity because the complete version is Top Secret.

In some cases, one official said, the material followed what was called “a circuitous route” from the GRU, Russia’s military intelligence agency, to WikiLeaks in an apparent attempt to make the origins of the material harder to trace, a common practice used by all intelligence agencies, including U.S. ones.

These handoffs, the officials said, enabled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to say the Russian government or state agencies were not the source of the material published on his website.

In an interview with Fox News this week, Assange said he did not receive emails stolen from the DNC and Clinton aide John Podesta from "a state party." Assange did not rule out the possibility that he got the material from a third party.

Details of the report emerged as the top U.S. intelligence official, James Clapper, said on Thursday he was "even more resolute" in his belief that Russia staged cyber attacks on Democrats during the 2016 election campaign.

Not all 17 intelligence agencies participated in preparing the assessment. An unclassified version of the report is expected to be released on Friday morning, two officials said.

The report contains some of what the officials called “minor footnotes” about open questions and other uncertainties, in part because some of the evidence supporting the conclusion is inferential.

One such example, the officials said, was that intercepted messages and conversations among senior Russian officials in Putin’s inner circle indicated they were aware of the hacking campaign and celebrated Trump’s election as a victorious end to the campaign.

The officials declined to discuss the nature of the communications, including whether they were domestic, international, or both.

More at link.

Assange on Hannity Show said:


Our source is not a state party, so the answer for our interactions is no.

[KEEF]

Thems fightin' words!

I hope Putin does take the bait and we go all nuclear fallout.

[enhanced_deficit]

Are these same intel experts who had claimed that Benghazi 9/11 attack that killed 4 Americans including US Ambassador to Libya was caused by a video protest?


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2014/04/02/morell_1.png




Or those who reported Iraq had WMDs?


https://czardonic.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/40e9b-powellatunrussia-737131.jpg

http://www.internetweekly.org/images/powell_bs.jpg





If yes, one has to be skeptical of everything DGP puppet masters team leaks to media.










Related

Rep. Franks: If Russia hacked, it was a public service (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506035-Rep-Franks-If-Russia-hacked-it-was-a-public-service&)

The CIA, Washington Post, And Russia: What You're Not Being Told (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505922-The-CIA-Washington-Post-And-Russia-What-You-re-Not-Being-Told&)

[Zippyjuan]

Following his briefing today, Trump backed down (again) by agreeing that foreign countries try to hack the US and interfere with the US but still insists that he would have won anyways. http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-briefing/


President-elect Donald Trump downplayed Russia's role in the election after a briefing with top US intelligence officials, even as a declassified version of their conclusions pointed definitively at Moscow.

"While Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations including the Democrat National Committee, there was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election, including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines," Trump said in a statement after the meeting.

In a statement Friday accompanying the release of a declassified version of the briefing, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence said that the "Intelligence Community did not make an assessment of the impact that Russian activities had on the outcome of the 2016 election."

It added that the Department of Homeland Security concluded that "the types of systems the Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying."


"We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump," the intelligence report said.

The Russian efforts blended covert activity, including cyber operations, with overt efforts by Moscow, including paying social media "trolls." The campaign was just "the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal order," the report said.

The report shared conclusions reached in the classified version, but didn't include information that could give away sources and collection methods.


Despite the fact that the Intelligence Community has never argued that the hacks swayed the outcome of the election, Trump emphasized that point in his statement. And after lawmakers and intelligence officials expressed concern about his putting down of the Intelligence Community, he praised them in his statement.
"I have tremendous respect for the work and service done by the men and women of this community to our great nation," Trump said.

Trump also said he will appoint a team within 90 days to figure out ways to stop foreign hacking.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump now on Assange (sorry, I don't know technically how to copy the whole tweet): http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tweets-about-intelligence-and-wikileaks-julian-assange/


Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump

The dishonest media likes saying that I am in Agreement with Julian Assange - wrong. I simply state what he states, it is for the people....
5:25 AM - 5 Jan 2017



Donald J. TrumpVerified account
‏@realDonaldTrump

to make up their own minds as to the truth. The media lies to make it look like I am against "Intelligence" when in fact I am a big fan!

[dannno]

The report contains some of what the officials called “minor footnotes” about open questions and other uncertainties, in part because some of the evidence supporting the conclusion is inferential.

One such example, the officials said, was that intercepted messages and conversations among senior Russian officials in Putin’s inner circle indicated they were aware of the hacking campaign and celebrated Trump’s election as a victorious end to the campaign...

[phill4paul]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?

[Schifference]

The authority on hacking is James Perjury Clapper.

[silverhandorder]

Lol he is running circles around the Dems. They are so fucked.

[dannno]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?

The funniest part is that it doesn't really matter who hacked the DNC. Whoever did it, be it the Russians (not likely) or some 400 lb dude lying in bed, they exposed crimes and corruption in government, like Snowden they are heroes. It's not like they hacked in and planted fake evidence for something that made us look really bad or was some how deceptive, whoever it was merely exposed the truth about how corrupt our government is. That is what you call "a favor".

But it's kinda fun watching the media cream its pants on a daily basis thinking the Russians got Trump elected.. How about placing the blame on the corrupt DNC?

[phill4paul]

The funniest part is that it doesn't really matter who hacked the DNC. Whoever did it, be it the Russians (not likely) or some 400 lb dude lying in bed, they exposed crimes and corruption in government, like Snowden they are heroes. It's not like they hacked in and planted fake evidence for something that made us look really bad or was some how deceptive, whoever it was merely exposed the truth about how corrupt our government is. That is what you call "a favor".

I agree.

[specsaregood]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?
indeed.


The funniest part is that it doesn't really matter who hacked the DNC. Whoever did it, be it the Russians (not likely) or some 400 lb dude lying in bed, they exposed crimes and corruption in government, like Snowden they are heroes. It's not like they hacked in and planted fake evidence for something that made us look really bad or was some how deceptive, whoever it was merely exposed the truth about how corrupt our government is. That is what you call "a favor".

indeed.

its all just so amusing because these people have no credibility, none whatsoever. Its all a distraction to change the focus from what was "hacked" to who did the "hacking". assholes, every single one of them.

[phill4paul]

indeed.


indeed.

its all just so amusing because these people have no credibility, none whatsoever. Its all a distraction to change the focus from what was "hacked" to who did the "hacking". assholes, every single one of them.

The funny thing is the left should be praising the hackers for exposing how Hillary fucked over Sanders.

[donnay]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?


The funniest part is that it doesn't really matter who hacked the DNC. Whoever did it, be it the Russians (not likely) or some 400 lb dude lying in bed, they exposed crimes and corruption in government, like Snowden they are heroes. It's not like they hacked in and planted fake evidence for something that made us look really bad or was some how deceptive, whoever it was merely exposed the truth about how corrupt our government is. That is what you call "a favor".

But it's kinda fun watching the media cream its pants on a daily basis thinking the Russians got Trump elected.. How about placing the blame on the corrupt DNC?


indeed.


indeed.

its all just so amusing because these people have no credibility, none whatsoever. Its all a distraction to change the focus from what was "hacked" to who did the "hacking". $#@!s, every single one of them.

Absolutely agree.

I think it is hysterical they are in meltdown mode.

You know that whole standard saying coming from government officials:
"If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about."

They are also pissed that they couldn't hack this election like they thought they were going to get away with.

This is why liberals hate a free market, they freaking hate the competition.

[donnay]

John McAfee: "The Most Deceptive Propaganda To Date Was Perpetrated On The American Public"

Security expert and former Libertarian presidential candidate John McAfee went on RT yesterday to discuss the Grizzly Steppe Russian hacking report by Homeland Security. While not addressing the intelligence community’s latest waffling in the ever-changing narrative (now it's a third party), McAfee went after the crux of the original evidence in the FBI/DHS findings. For anyone still suffering from Red Dawn syndrome, I suggest setting aside your Russophobic tendies for the moment and ignore the fact that this interview was brought to you by RT – because despite possibly having his neighbor murdered in Belize for poisoning four of his 11 dogs, McAfee knows a metric ton about this exact topic, and I get the impression the guy is a big fan of freedom. And revenge.

McAfee isn’t shilling for Trump either, as evidenced by an appearance on Larry King Now last week during which he laid out his grave concerns over the President-elect’s cyber security policies, which will ultimately be handled by the FBI.

The nuts and bolts of McAfee’s argument is that Russia, with it’s high level of sophistication in cyber-warfare, would never be stupid enough to leave the very obvious fingerprints that US Intelligence cites as the foundation of their case for Russian involvement in the DNC hacks. In other words, this isn’t how state actors penetrate networks and perform espionage.

McAfee specifically pointed to the following key arguments in the Grizzly Steppe report:

Russian language was found in the malware – which would make them borderline retarded.
A Cyrillic (Russian language) keyboard was used to create the malware.

The compiler (piece of software that finalizes the malware) time stamped the malware during Russian business hours.
IP address pointed to Russia – again, they’d have to be fairly new at hacking to do something like that.

All of which are the hallmarks of a 15 year old kid acting alone, or a poorly fabricated body of evidence.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zat5YX-dTWQ

Read more: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-06/john-mcafee-most-deceptive-propaganda-date-was-perpetrated-american-public

[CPUd]

Declassified version:
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/the-intelligence-community-report-on-russian-activities-in-the-2016-election/2153/

[PatriotOne]

Anyone got Putin's address so I can send a thank you card?

[enhanced_deficit]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?

Some improvements are needed there in capabilities, Putin should not be allowed to outshine our leaders and agencies.



Remember When Barack Obama Tried To Hack Israeli Elections To Oust PM Benjamin Netanyahu?
The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/remember-obama-tried-influence-israeli-elections-oust-pm-benjamin-netanyahu/


Audio of Hillary Proposing Palestinian Election Rigging (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?503001-End-of-Hillary-2016-After-Hillary-tape-bombshell-White-Women-will-be-leaving-her)

[CPUd]

817502062170738689
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/817502062170738689

[Marenco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPrRxhYJMkQ

[AZJoe]

OMG. Its the farce that never ends. In essence


Since you did not buy our prior report last week that contained only accusations and no proof;

We present today more accusations, but not any actual evidence at all. Further we state we have high confidence in our accusations but can't provide any actual evidence at all. Please ignore the named Veteran Intelligence Experts (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12/us-intel-vets-dispute-russia-hacking-claims/) who explain how our accusations are bogus. Please ignore the litany of cyber-security experts who say our claims lack any proof. Please ignore Wikileaks, and Assange. Please forget about Seth Rich. Please ignore the fact that we still have not presented any actual evidence. Please ignore all our prior lies (Iraq, WMDs, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Honduras, ...) We are the masters of disinformation and we have an agenda. our masters have an agenda. So just trust us.

Its also interesting how the latest report is no longer focusing on the discredited hacking claims, but more vague generalizations along with "professional trolls" like the "anti-fracking troll army", and specifically attacking RT for exposing truth they don't want exposed. RT is to blame because it single-handedly surpassed all the MSM power, as well as Obama, McCain, Graham, and State Department propaganda machine. As proof the report presents a chart of RT you-tube followers:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/01/01/2017-01-06%20%281%29_0.png

This entire debacle is like a bad joke that just keeps getting more and more ridiculous as the elite become more and more desperate and frustrated.

More exposure of the farce:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-06/here-us-intelligence-report-accusing-putin-ordering-campaign-influence-us-election
http://sgtreport.com/2017/01/the-farce-is-complete-here-is-the-us-intel-report-accusing-putin-of-helping-trump-win-the-election-by-discrediting-hillary-clinton/

[AZJoe]

817480698084921344

817479125707399168

[juleswin]

The funny thing is the left should be praising the hackers for exposing how Hillary $#@!ed over Sanders.

The problem I have with this argument that he screwed Sanders is that the so called victim in this case is A OK with the crime. Heck, Sanders backed Hillary in the elections and also the left already knew Hillary was crooked even before the leaks, they voted and will vote for her in the future just as long as the correct boggeyman is on the other side of the ballot.

[goldenequity]

INTELLIGENCE REPORT SAYS 'WE ASSESS PUTIN AND RUSSIAN GOVT ASPIRED TO HELP' TRUMP'S CHANCES WHEN POSSIBLE BY DISCREDITING HILLARY CLINTON.

Discrediting her with what? The Truth?? :rolleyes:

==========

"Russia used trolls as well as RT as part of its influence efforts to denigrate Secretary Clinton" - Intel Report

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxyyCDAWQAIx64a.jpg

-------------


Mexico's Former President Tweets: "Trump, I Am Not Paying For That Fucken Wall"
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/817480450285375488

[Zippyjuan]

I see the Russians are going full force defending it.

[dannno]

817502062170738689
https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/817502062170738689

Hah... hilarious considering 3-4 million illegal aliens voted for Hillary..

2.8 million illegal aliens voted for Obama in 2008, and everybody is freaking out about Trump saying 3 million voted for Hillary when they had more reason than ever to vote against Trump who was talking about deporting illegals. 3 million was actually the conservative estimate.

[Jamesiv1]

This guy seems legit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5idQimZ6Jp8

[Origanalist]

Vladimir Putin, doing the job American main stream media won't do. Maybe they should build a wall.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

OMG. Its the farce that never ends. In essence
Since you did not buy our prior report last week that contained only accusations and no proof;

We present today more accusations, but not any actual evidence at all. Further we state we have high confidence in our accusations but can't provide any actual evidence at all. Please ignore the named Veteran Intelligence Experts (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12/us-intel-vets-dispute-russia-hacking-claims/) who explain how our accusations are bogus. Please ignore the litany of cyber-security experts who say our claims lack any proof. Please ignore Wikileaks, and Assange. Please forget about Seth Rich. Please ignore the fact that we still have not presented any actual evidence. Please ignore all our prior lies (Iraq, WMDs, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Honduras, ...) We are the masters of disinformation and we have an agenda. our masters have an agenda. So just trust us.

Its also interesting how the latest report no longer focusing on the discredited hacking claims, but more vague generalizations along with "professional trolls" like the ":anti-fracking troll army", and specifically attacking RT for exposing truth the don't want exposed. RT is to blame because it single-handedly all the MSM power, as well as Obama, McCain, Graham, and State Department propaganda machine. As proof the present a chart of RT you-tube followers:

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/01/01/2017-01-06%20%281%29_0.png

This entire debacle is like a bad joke that just keeps getting more and more ridiculous as the elite become more and more desperate and frustrated.

More exposure of the farce:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-06/here-us-intelligence-report-accusing-putin-ordering-campaign-influence-us-election
http://sgtreport.com/2017/01/the-farce-is-complete-here-is-the-us-intel-report-accusing-putin-of-helping-trump-win-the-election-by-discrediting-hillary-clinton/

You are spot on 110%. This is downright insulting.:mad:

[Son_of_Liberty90]

This bears repeating:


CIA official prepping to speak on Capitol Hill: "Alright, let me just pull this analysis out of my ass..."

[Origanalist]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1icURZUkAAFZ3v.jpg

[UWDude]

How to make the poor sore losers heads spin:

"So what was released in the hacked emails that was so devastating?"

Ha ha ha.

I can see Zippy and CPUd arguing with their managers "the people at Ron Paul forums really aren't going to even read this. It really is pointless!"
Manager: "Shut up and post! I don't pay you to think!"

[angelatc]

Lol. We're to believe the C.I.A. The organization responsible for "hacking" elections and destabilizing governments?

And we are just now finding out that other nations spy on us as well?

[Origanalist]

And we are just now finding out that other nations spy on us as well?

The whole thing just has my head spinning. Whodda thunk it?

[AZJoe]

How to make the poor sore losers heads spin:

"So what was released in the hacked emails that was so devastating?"

Ha ha ha.


Yes, this is quite embarrassing to witness. This administration and the neocon brigade has taken Washington two steps below the level of Kim-Jong un. Like spoiled brats that can't get their way, they are throwing a temper tantrums and spewing public allegations and threats that make Kim-Jong un look like a bastion of rational maturity, and realism by comparison.

[AZJoe]

Ron Paul Institute: Daniel McAdams weighs in on latest New "Intel" Report

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2017/january/06/is-that-all-there-is-intel-community-releases-its-russia-hacking-report/

The report is long on speculation and short on any evidence for the claims it was supposed to prove. It even came with a warning label … that "does not imply that the assessment is a fact or a certainty; such judgements may be wrong." We who lived through the 2002 "high confidence" in Iraqi WMDs remember this possibility well. …

The Intelligence Community Assessment does not offer any evidence of Russian hacking of the DNC and thus provides nothing new to back its claims. … the Assessment instead devotes most of the report to speculating about possible Russian motives …

a full third of its length is dedicated to quite unsophisticated criticism of the Russian television station RT. What's the $80-plus billion dollar per year US Intelligence Community's big beef with RT? One of its big complaints is that RT undermined US democracy when it "broadcast, hosted, and advertised third-party candidate debates..." We are to believe that Russia undermined our political system by giving voice to official yet minor US political parties? Democracy is undermined when the democratic process is highlighted? …

RT is guilty of undermining US democracy, found the report, because an RT reporter traveled to the Ecuadorian embassy in London to interview Wikileaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange …

The Kremlin funds RT … The report does not mention that the US government spends vastly more -- $780 million (http://www.radioworld.com/business-and-law/0009/bbg-requests-7778m-budget-for-2017/338637) for 2017 -- on its worldwide propaganda effort through the government-funded Broadcasting Board of Governors. …

Another problem the US spy agencies have with RT is that it reports on the surveillance state … So RT is guilty of being a Kremlin plot to undermine our freedom because it points out that the US government has already undermined our freedom? …

most Americans oppose Washington's interventionist foreign policy. … And RT is evil because it points out that the neocon project to import jihadists into Syria to overthrow that secular government was not such a great idea. …

As Wikileaks Tweets (https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/817500610442522625), the "US government's declassified 'Russian hacking' report has the curious disclaimer that it is based on watching TV and reading Tweets." …

[UWDude]

The authority on hacking is James Perjury Clapper.

"not wittingly, no"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRhjgynfhag

[Dr.3D]

Wow, they should have been reading Mad Magazine.
https://s15-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http:%2F%2Fvignette2.wikia.nocookie .net%2Fspyversusspy%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fbf%2FSpy-vs-spy.gif%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20111221021927&sp=b2ca491e9d6d6dffb94430f73afff590
That magazine is more informative than I originally thought.

[CPUd]

How to make the poor sore losers heads spin:

"So what was released in the hacked emails that was so devastating?"

Ha ha ha.

I can see Zippy and CPUd arguing with their managers "the people at Ron Paul forums really aren't going to even read this. It really is pointless!"
Manager: "Shut up and post! I don't pay you to think!"

I don't have a manager, and no one pays me to post here. If I wanted to get paid, I'd do what this guy did and monetize it:


How a Putin Fan Overseas Pushed Pro-Trump Propaganda to Americans

The Patriot News Agency website popped up in July, soon after it became clear that Donald J. Trump would win the Republican presidential nomination, bearing a logo of a red, white and blue eagle and the motto “Built by patriots, for patriots.”

Tucked away on a corner of the site, next to links for Twitter and YouTube, is a link to another social media platform that most Americans have never heard of: VKontakte, the Russian equivalent of Facebook. It is a clue that Patriot News, like many sites that appeared out of nowhere and pumped out pro-Trump hoaxes tying his opponent Hillary Clinton to Satanism, pedophilia and other conspiracies, is actually run by foreigners based overseas.

But while most of those others seem be the work of young, apolitical opportunists cashing in on a conservative appetite for viral nonsense, operators of Patriot News had an explicitly partisan motivation: getting Mr. Trump elected.

Patriot News — whose postings were viewed and shared tens of thousands of times in the United States — is among a constellation of websites run out of the United Kingdom that are linked to James Dowson, a far-right political activist who advocated Britain’s exit from the European Union and is a fan of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. A vocal proponent of Christian nationalist, anti-immigrant movements in Europe, Mr. Dowson, 52, has spoken at a conference of far-right leaders in Russia and makes no secret of his hope that Mr. Trump will usher in an era of rapprochement with Mr. Putin.

His dabbling in the American presidential election adds an ideological element that has been largely missing from the still-emerging landscape of websites and Facebook pages that bombarded American voters with misinformation and propaganda. Far from the much-reported Macedonian teenagers running fake news factories solely for profit, Mr. Dowson made it his mission, according to messages posted on one of his sites, to “spread devastating anti-Clinton, pro-Trump memes and sound bites into sections of the population too disillusioned with politics to have taken any notice of conventional campaigning.”

https://i.imgur.com/RppOaiQ.jpg

“Together, people like us helped change the course of history,” one message said, adding in another: “Every single one of you who forwarded even just one of our posts on social media contributed to the stunning victory for Trump, America and God.”

In a recent email interview from Belgrade, where he has met with Serbian nationalists, Mr. Dowson explained how his decision to establish an American social media presence was similar to the move into European markets by Breitbart News, the conservative provocateur media operation run by Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s chief strategist.

“Simple truth is that after 40 years of the right having no voice because the media was owned by the enemy, we were FORCED to become incredibly good at alternative media in a way the left simply can’t grasp or handle,” Mr. Dowson said. “Bottom line is: BREXIT, TRUMP and much more to follow.”

While it is easy to overstate the influence of fringe elements whose overall numbers remain very small, the explosion of fake news and propaganda sites and their possible impact on the presidential election have ignited alarm across the American political spectrum. A recent study found that most people who read fabricated stories on Facebook — such as a widely circulated hoax about Pope Francis endorsing Mr. Trump — were inclined to believe them.

...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/world/europe/russia-propaganda-elections.html

[TheTexan]

And we are just now finding out that other nations spy on us as well?

No other nations spy on us, just Russia

and sometimes China

[TheTexan]

The whole thing just has my head spinning. Whodda thunk it?

Why would anyone spy on us?? What did we ever do, to deserve that

[Son_of_Liberty90]

I don't have a manager, and no one pays me to post here. If I wanted to get paid, I'd do what this guy did and monetize it:


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/world/europe/russia-propaganda-elections.html

Ah, NYT, the bastion of truth and objective news reporting.

[UWDude]

I don't have a manager, and no one pays me to post here. If I wanted to get paid, I'd do what this guy did and monetize it:


nobody believes anything you post anymore, except your fellow fake news spewing shills.

I don't know if you noticed, but you are in regression.

First you won, then we fought you, then we started laughing at you, and now we are between laughing and ignoring you. Then you lose.

[UWDude]

Why would anyone spy on us?? What did we ever do, to deserve that

It must be because we have nothing to hide.

[CPUd]

nobody believes anything you post anymore, except your fellow fake news spewing shills.

I don't know if you noticed, but you are in regression.

First you won, then we fought you, then we started laughing at you, and now we are between laughing and ignoring you. Then you lose.

If you think you are fighting other members on this site, you're probably on the wrong site.

[UWDude]

If you think you are fighting other members on this site, you're probably on the wrong site.

Im not fighting your ilk, I am laughing at and ignoring you losers. The fight ended a year or two ago, when we all just stopped critiquing NYT WaPO and other MSM article vomit people like you post, and started laughing at it. The laughter turned to howls and guffaws, when the whole "fake news" hysteria got turned on its head. And now, nobody is reading your article vomit. I assure you. There is no need. And if they are, it surely is not because they are open minded to your opinions or those of your MSM mind flayers. It is because they are looking for more barbs to stick your ignorant backside with, just to watch you shriek some more... ...for the lulz.

[CPUd]

Im not fighting your ilk, I am laughing at and ignoring you losers. The fight ended a year or two ago, when we all just stopped critiquing NYT WaPO and other MSM article vomit people like you post, and started laughing at it. The laughter turned to howls and guffaws, when the whole "fake news" hysteria got turned on its head. And now, nobody is reading your article vomit. I assure you. There is no need. And if they are, it surely is not because they are open minded to your opinions or those of your MSM mind flayers. It is because they are looking for more barbs to stick your ignorant backside with, just to watch you shriek some more... ...for the lulz.

Free Republic and DU are probably more your speed.

[pcosmar]

This is coming on the heels of the News of CIA writing the news. Officially.

[UWDude]

Free Republic and DU are probably more your speed.

I don't need your recommendations. I have no respect for you whatsoever. Your insults mean nothing to me. You and zippy are nothing more than foils.

[Dr.3D]

This is coming on the heels of the News of CIA writing the news. Officially.

https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Fsocioecohistory.files.w ordpress.com%2F2016%2F12%2Fcia-william-casey-disinformation_psyop_everything_americans_believe_ is_false.jpg&sp=b665dfd49516d7d98be663e092f92401

[CPUd]

I don't need your recommendations. I have no respect for you whatsoever. Your insults mean nothing to me. You and zippy are nothing more than foils.

Then this is definitely not the place for you, if you don't agree with this:

2) Treat others with respect.

Do not make accusations, declarations on others' character, question their motives, be judgmental, assign them to a group or make any other negative personal commentary of members.
No insulting, antagonizing or personally attacking other users.
Do not suggest that other members should leave or that they otherwise don't belong here.
Do not publicly discuss which site members you don't like, who is on your ignore list or similar.
No misquoting other members when debating, such as with "fixed it for you."
Be respectful of others' religion or lack thereof.
No posting of anyone's personal contact information or members' personal details.
See the "Being Respectful" section below for more details.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?1989

[UWDude]

Then this is definitely not the place for you:



2) Treat others with respect.

Do not make accusations, declarations on others' character, question their motives, be judgmental, assign them to a group or make any other negative personal commentary of members.
No insulting, antagonizing or personally attacking other users.
Do not suggest that other members should leave or that they otherwise don't belong here.
Do not publicly discuss which site members you don't like, who is on your ignore list or similar.
No misquoting other members when debating, such as with "fixed it for you."
Be respectful of others' religion or lack thereof.
No posting of anyone's personal contact information or members' personal details.
See the "Being Respectful" section below for more details.

LOL!!

You make the best foil, CPUd! Thanks dude!



Then this is definitely not the place for you, if you don't agree with this:

"if you don't agree with this" was ninja edit added, so as to maintain the appearance of being anything but an underhanded troll.

[CPUd]

LOL!!

You make the best foil, CPUd! Thanks dude!

I don't care if you are here or not, I'm just trying to help you out. You're repeating behavior that got you banned in the past.

[UWDude]

I don't care if you are here or not, I'm just trying to help you out. You're repeating behavior that got you banned in the past.

I just told you I don't need your recommendations. Can't you respect that? This is the second time after I told you I don't need them.

[silverhandorder]

If you think you are fighting other members on this site, you're probably on the wrong site.

You not a member of this site. You are a troll.

[AngryCanadian]

The senate hearings were a joke, they haven't provided any actual real 100% guts instinct evidence that Russia hacked anything. They even admitted that Russia didnt hack nor change the outcome of the election or votes.

So what was hacked again? LOL

[AngryCanadian]

I don't care if you are here or not, I'm just trying to help you out. You're repeating behavior that got you banned in the past.

Your not a mod to give users advice or helping them out.

[AngryCanadian]

This is coming on the heels of the News of CIA writing the news. Officially.

The same CIA that failed to find moderates in Syria to LOL.

[CPUd]

I just told you I don't need your recommendations. Can't you respect that? This is the second time after I told you I don't need them.

You are certainly free to get yourself banned again.

[CPUd]

Your not a mod to give users advice or helping them out.

Is being a mod a requirement to give users advice or help them out?

[AngryCanadian]

Is being a mod a requirement to give users advice or help them out?

I will re quote you above.


You are certainly free to get yourself banned again.

Could you please stop doing this? :rolleyes:
Your actually provoking him to react to you.

Its not mine nor your businesses if he got banned or suspended temporally. Lets get back to the topic or don't bother on commenting here.

[UWDude]

You are certainly free to get yourself banned again.
Last time I was banned, was not for not showing respect. So you are wrong about that.

The message from the moderator was, "take a break, get some sleep", and it was good advice. I didn't really even break any rules, but whatever, I didn't mind. I slept for about 14 hours afterwards. I was kind of sad to see my "God Emperor Trump allegiance thread" deleted, the satire was deliciously funny. oh well.

You however, are just trying to get me to react to you, so you can run to the mods and try to get me banned, as you play innocent little mod helper. You still aren't fooling anyone. Frankly, you are trying to use the rules to troll. I have been on the internet long enough to know your type.

It is one of the many reasons I have no respect for you.


Is being a mod a requirement to give users advice or help them out?

Aww, yeah dude, we all stoopid idiot dum-dums here. We not smart like you, we can't see what you really up to. We all very stoopid dum dums. We all think you love me, and just dont want to see me banned again. We all think you are trying to help. We all big dummies. moderators big dummies too, they believe your intentions too, huh, CPUd? You can fool moderators too, huh CPUd, because you are so smart, huh CPUd!? You smarter than moderators! You smartest person in world! Even smarter than the smartiest smarter person in the whole wide world universe even!

[CPUd]

I will re quote you above.



Could you please stop doing this? :rolleyes:
Your actually provoking him to react to you.

Its not mine nor your businesses if he got banned or suspended temporally. Lets get back to the topic or don't bother on commenting here.

I'd rather members not get banned, especially for making stupid posts. I'm sure I have kept several from getting banned over the years. Of course, I understand there are some who can't or won't be reached, they are certainly free to do their own thing.

[UWDude]

I'd rather members not get banned, especially for making stupid posts.

I don't believe you, or anything you ever say. And your actions are quite the opposite. You were trying to build a case, and I saw through it instantly. I knew what you were up to, instantly. You were trying to lay a trap.

You are looking right now for something. Perhaps you can report me for discussing moderator actions? Hmm... ....you dont want me banned, but have you reported me yet? Technically, me telling you you were wrong about why I was banned itself is a ban-able offense, since I discussed moderator actions. But you started that discussion by bringing up my past bans first, which is also technically a ban-able offense. So I am not sure, perhaps we should leave it up to the moderators to decide who started the ban talk first?

Frankly, if the mods ban me for that, that is fine. I'll take the ban. I must say, however, I'd rather they saw through your charade, and banned you.


Notice how I always clearly state my intentions in truth, and how you always mask yours in lies?

I don't think anyone here has ever doubted I meant what I wrote. I know you can not say the same.

[UWDude]

I don't care if you are here or not, I'm just trying to help you out. You're repeating behavior that got you banned in the past.

The Community Guidelines are as follows:

1) Be ethical.

Be honest and truthful


that's rule #1. I have certainly followed that rule in every one of my 3,910 posts. You do not do the same, as the statement I quoted is clearly a lie.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

[shilling]


Neg rep.

[openfire]

I don't have a manager, and no one pays me to post here.

Useful idiot:

In political jargon, a useful idiot is a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/yCL8hEp.jpg

[AZJoe]

https://i.imgur.com/yCL8hEp.jpg

OMG. Cpud found the smoking gun. The "evidence" of hacking the election delves ever deeper into total idiotic lunacy. Leave it to the MIC/neocon war propaganda defender Cpud to further the theater of the absurd.

This is a pro peace billboard in Montenegro. It was put up by the Montenegrin Anti-war news and info group IN4S.

But hey, people in Montenegro oppose war and want friendship and peace between large nations, so therefore that means Russia hacked the election right?
http://www.quickbase.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/05/A-Measure-of-Your-Team%E2%80%99s-Health-How-You-Treat-Your-Idiot.jpg

[FunkBuddha]

The funniest part is that it doesn't really matter who hacked the DNC. Whoever did it, be it the Russians (not likely) or some 400 lb dude lying in bed, they exposed crimes and corruption in government, like Snowden they are heroes. It's not like they hacked in and planted fake evidence for something that made us look really bad or was some how deceptive, whoever it was merely exposed the truth about how corrupt our government is. That is what you call "a favor".

But it's kinda fun watching the media cream its pants on a daily basis thinking the Russians got Trump elected.. How about placing the blame on the corrupt DNC?

I mean, you'd think by the way everyone is acting, these "Russian Hackers" bribed/blackmailed or otherwise manipulated people in the media to favor one candidate over the other by always giving them positive news coverage and trashing the other person running. Or maybe leaking debate questions to one candidate and not the other...

[enhanced_deficit]

This guy seems legit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5idQimZ6Jp8


He should cut down on media appearances considering what happened to Miriam Carey's lawyer the day after he went on TV:


Lawyer representing family of Miriam Carey, Conn. mom killed in U.S. Capitol car chase, arrested, report says (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430954-Lawyer-representing-family-of-Miriam-Carey-arrested&)

By
Stephanie Slifer

http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/10/04/DC_Suspect_Inset_244x183.jpg Miriam Carey, inset, as emergency personal help an injured person near the shooting close to the U.S. Capitol building in Wash., D.C.,

(CBS) NEW YORK - Eric Sanders, the lawyer who is representing the family of Miriam Carey, the Stamford, Conn. mother who led authorities on a chaotic car chase from the White House to the U.S. Capitol before being killed by authorities earlier this month, has been arrested for failing to pay court settlements against him, the New York Post reports.






https://reclaimourrepublic.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/trump-hillary-obama-isis.jpg

http://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/obama-is-isis-mask.jpg


Trump: Clinton, Obama 'created ISIS' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?487644-Trump-Clinton-Obama-created-ISIS&)

https://i.imgur.com/yCL8hEp.jpg





The meme situation is getting bit out of hand, let's keep it civil.

[devil21]

Anybody else get the feeling that the thread turned into a bunch of lefty trolls having a fake argument? I distinctly remember UWDude pushing leftist positions only a couple years ago on RPF.

On topic:
I didn't read the report. What are the names of those identified?

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/Y7XOT2h.jpg

[nobody's_hero]

Eh just put him on your ignore list guys.

Up until a week ago, I saw RPF flooded with nothing but meaningless MSM articles copy-pasted from liberal trash news websites. Now I just see:


This message is hidden because CPUd is on your ignore list.

I went ahead and added zippy for good measure. It was amusing at first but just gets tiresome after a while and really I think touting MSM articles as the gospel of truth diminishes RPF's integrity.

[CPUd]

Yes, threads are much shorter once I put certain members on ignore.

[CPUd]

Five reasons intel community believes Russia interfered in election


Donald Trump met with intelligence officials Friday for a private briefing on election hacking.

Long a skeptic of Russia’s role in the attacks, he finally heard the unfiltered case that Moscow orchestrated breaches at the Democratic National Committee, Democratic National Campaign Committee and two states voter roles, as well as Hillary Clinton’s campaign chief John Podesta.

A declassified version of the intelligence report soon followed. It shows the outline of the U.S. stance, including who did what and why, but does not show much in the way of evidence.

Crowdstrike, the company brought in by the DNC to boot the hackers and investigate the report, has publicly released details about its investigation connecting Russian attackers known as Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear to the attacks.

In addition, other firms including FireEye, SecureWorks and ThreatConnect have either confirmed Crowdstrike’s work or found new evidence that they have also released.

Between the report and the private sector work, the public knows some of what might fuel the intelligence community’s unanimous view that Russia was behind the attacks.

Here are five key points.

The attacks used the same infrastructure as other attacks attributed to Russia

Attributing hacks to specific hackers is difficult work, in part because it is possible to modify digital evidence after the fact.

Before making its own attribution, CrowdStrike monitored the hackers in action as they scoured the system – limiting the amount of cover-up work that could be done.

Crowdstrike found a lot of overlap from the DNC hack and other hacks attributed to Russian intelligence, including one of the German Parliament.

The DNC attack routed through servers at internet addresses only seen in Russian linked attacks and used the same encryption keys as other attacks. The hackers relied on a cross platform suite of hacking tools called X-Agent; most of its components have exclusively been used in attacks linked to Russia.

Researchers at the firm ThreatConnect linked the email address used to set up a fake website to one used in previous attacks.

At a minimum, there is good evidence that the DNC attack was conducted by the same group that performed a variety of other attacks.

...
http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/313154-five-reasons-intel-community-believes-russia-interfered-in-election

[UWDude]

Anybody else get the feeling that the thread turned into a bunch of lefty trolls having a fake argument? I distinctly remember UWDude pushing leftist positions only a couple years ago on RPF.


Just because you call them leftist, doesn't make them so. I am still pro-union, think the civil war was about slavery, and think that black people actually do have it worse from the day they are born.

But just because I disagree with you on a few issues, does not make me leftist.

[UWDude]

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/313154-five-reasons-intel-community-believes-russia-interfered-in-election

The attacks used the same infrastructure as other attacks attributed to Russia

Uh Oh, BTFO TIME!

Not a surprise when the CIA is planting the fingerprints!


The CIA's Remote Devices Branch's UMBRAGE group collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques 'stolen' from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.

With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving behind the "fingerprints" of the groups that the attack techniques were stolen from. (https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/)