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goldenequity
12-30-2016, 01:28 PM
Obama seizes Bundy Ranch area in massive last minute land grab (https://www.intellihub.com/alert-obama-seizes-bundy-ranch-area-in-massive-last-minute-land-grab/)

https://www.intellihub.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cliven-bundy-696x464.jpg

With a stroke of the pen President Obama
has unilaterally declared vast swaths of land in Utah and Nevada
as two new national monuments,
thus putting them under control of the federal government.

Startlingly, the area in Nevada includes the site of the infamous Bundy Ranch standoff
as well as land very close to the Bundy Ranch itself.
With this move Obama has possibly triggered another armed standoff
while also heading off any moves set to be made by incoming president Donald Trump.

MOAR (https://www.intellihub.com/alert-obama-seizes-bundy-ranch-area-in-massive-last-minute-land-grab/)

dannno
12-30-2016, 01:34 PM
Trump should put Cliven Bundy in charge of the BLM.

Jamesiv1
12-30-2016, 02:26 PM
Trump should put Cliven Bundy in charge of the BLM.
^that would be awesome!! lol

dannno
12-30-2016, 02:29 PM
814930589421694976

TheTexan
12-30-2016, 02:32 PM
Russell Begaye, president of the Navajo Nation, welcomed the Bears Ears designation, even though it is smaller than his tribe and others hoped for.

“This is an exciting day for the Navajo Nation, for our traditional leaders, for elected leaders across the Navajo Nation, and also the tribes that live in area who have always looked to Bears Ears as a place of refuge, as a place where we can gather herbs and medicinal plants and a place of prayer and sacredness,” he said.

Legal herbs, I assume.

nobody's_hero
12-30-2016, 04:43 PM
Hell, I didn't think there was anywhere else in Nevada that could be turned into Federal land.

oyarde
12-30-2016, 04:52 PM
Hell, I didn't think there was anywhere else in Nevada that could be turned into Federal land.

Pretty much what ? Half of west of the Mississippi ?

Dr.3D
12-30-2016, 04:55 PM
Where is "federal land", authorized in the Constitution?

tod evans
12-30-2016, 05:07 PM
Where is "federal land", authorized in the Constitution?

Right next to IRS/EPA SWAT teams....

Dr.3D
12-30-2016, 05:10 PM
Right next to IRS/EPA SWAT teams....
What's needed is somebody to enforce the Constitution.

TheTexan
12-30-2016, 05:36 PM
Where is "federal land", authorized in the Constitution?

Says so right here in the Commerce clause:

“to regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes.”

Indian tribes at some point conducted trade on that land, which makes it legal for the federal government to own that land

Zippyjuan
12-30-2016, 05:54 PM
Land NEAR the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch was not seized.

http://www.kgw.com/news/obama-designates-monument-near-bundy-ranch-in-nevada/379940244


Obama designates monument near Bundy ranch in Nevada

After years of publicly opposing federal land management policy, Cliven Bundy will now be able to see a 300,000 acre national monument from his ranch in Nevada.

On Wednesday, Obama designated two national monuments. The Bears Ears National Monument covers 1.35 million acres in Utah. The second is Gold Butte National Monument; 300,000 acres near Las Vegas, Nevada.

The Department of the Interior said both monuments contain sacred Native American land, important cultural sites and fragile wildlife habitat. Grazing permits and leases will still be issued for the land.

Bundy has allegedly allowed his cattle to graze on the Gold Butte land without paying grazing fees. In 2014, he led a standoff against U.S. agents. According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, Bundy has claimed ancestral rights to the Gold Butte land.

After the Gold Butte designation, the Bundy Ranch posted a statement opposing the move on its website.

"We, the Bundy Family, would like to say to President Obama that we are saddened, but not surprised, by your decision to make our ranch and home a national monument. If any of this were really about protecting the land, you would come here, work with the local people who love this land, those who have a vested interest in this land, and take the time to learn what this land really needs,” the statement read.

Two of Bundy’s sons, Ammon and Ryan, led a standoff in Oregon at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that lasted for more than a month in early 2016. The brothers were acquitted on federal charges in that standoff but still face charges in the Nevada case.

Some environmental groups and businesses have advocated for a national monument in Eastern Oregon, near where the occupation took place. The proposed Owyhee Canyonlands national monument covers more than 2 million acres in Eastern Oregon and includes land ranchers currently use to graze cattle.

Many local ranchers oppose the Owyhee Canyonlands monument.

Proponents of the Oregon monument say ranchers would still be able to graze cattle on the land.

Obama has now designated more than two dozen monuments since taking office, more than any president in history. He can continue to designate monuments until he leaves office on Jan. 20.

oyarde
12-30-2016, 06:16 PM
National Monument .

dannno
12-30-2016, 06:18 PM
Land NEAR the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch was not seized.

http://www.kgw.com/news/obama-designates-monument-near-bundy-ranch-in-nevada/379940244

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"We, the Bundy Family, would like to say to President Obama that we are saddened, but not surprised, by your decision to make our ranch and home a national monument

Anti Federalist
12-30-2016, 06:20 PM
Land NEAR the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch was not seized.

http://www.kgw.com/news/obama-designates-monument-near-bundy-ranch-in-nevada/379940244

We'll forgive the OP for an incorrect headline.

What say you Zip?

Should a president rule by kingly decree and the declaring of fatwas?

oyarde
12-30-2016, 06:24 PM
BLM needs abolished .

AZJoe
12-30-2016, 06:41 PM
Hell, I didn't think there was anywhere else in Nevada that could be turned into Federal land.

There's a few blue areas left to be extinguished yet:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6DYKkF0z4FQ/U0_W4h1sndI/AAAAAAAAQEA/PXOhRhckz3o/s1600/federal_land.png

oyarde
12-30-2016, 07:32 PM
We'll forgive the OP for an incorrect headline.

What say you Zip?

Should a president rule by kingly decree and the declaring of fatwas?
Zips views could be tainted . As a California resident he lives in the strange land of ( 1949 - June 2015) raisin seizure and confiscation and Fed govt warehousing ( Fresno ) until could properly be destroyed . I never heard him speak out against this barbarous practice or support CalExit .

PursuePeace
12-30-2016, 07:39 PM
814930589421694976

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dannno again.

ChristianAnarchist
12-30-2016, 07:56 PM
Land NEAR the Bundy Ranch. The Bundy Ranch was not seized.

http://www.kgw.com/news/obama-designates-monument-near-bundy-ranch-in-nevada/379940244

Actually I believe that "Bundy Ranch" includes certain grazing rights that are in the area seized. The grazing rights are "actual property" the same as water and mineral rights. Without the grazing rights there is no ranch...

It is, I believe, the same area where the standoff occurred.

CaseyJones
12-30-2016, 08:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

presence
12-30-2016, 09:01 PM
Trump should put Cliven Bundy in charge of the BLM.

I'll hold my breath

/s

Anti Federalist
12-30-2016, 10:05 PM
Always hated that NH has the highest percentage of federal land east of the Mississippi.

anaconda
12-30-2016, 11:06 PM
Trump should put Cliven Bundy in charge of the BLM.

Score!

AZJoe
04-16-2017, 03:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPNRmEHBb0