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presence
12-22-2016, 10:12 PM
Rockettes Will
Perform at Donald
Trump’s
Inauguration

(http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/rockettes-will-perform-at-donald-trumps-inauguration.html)The New York Times · 1 hour ago


(http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rockettes-slated-perform-donald-trump-inauguration-article-1.2920762)

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dannno
12-22-2016, 11:35 PM
The feminists are gonna be all over him for this.

Anti Federalist
12-22-2016, 11:42 PM
Well, good...

The One
12-23-2016, 03:30 AM
The feminists are gonna be all over him for this.


Yeah, he should go with something a little more palatable for the libs...like say, some performance art by Marina Abramovic.

timosman
12-23-2016, 03:36 AM
Yeah, he should go with something a little more palatable for the libs...like say, some performance art by Marina Abramovic.

:)

presence
12-23-2016, 08:37 AM
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robert68
12-23-2016, 03:21 PM
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robert68
12-23-2016, 03:35 PM
The Radio City Rockettes (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/radio-city-rockettes-%E2%80%98appalled%E2%80%99-over-trump-inauguration-command-performance/ar-BBxtrrU) dancers are pushing back after being told they must perform at Donald Trump's inauguration, TheWrap has learned.

The announcement by parent company Madison Square Garden Company boss James Dolan on Thursday quickly spread through social media and sparked outrage among some Rockettes and members of the Broadway community.
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Others said that the Rockettes were being forced to perform and that their union told them that they would lose their jobs if they resisted. Amanda Duarte wrote on Facebook:

"Most of the Rockettes do not want to perform at the inauguration," posted Duarte, whose Facebook page identifies her as the creator, producer and host of Dead Darlings. "AGVA, their union, has put in writing to the full time Rockettes that they must accept the inauguration gig or they will lose their jobs. It's perfect, actually. What could be more fitting for this inauguration than forcing a group of women to do something with their bodies against their will?"

Most of the Rockettes do not want to perform at the inauguration. AGVA, their union, has put in writing to the...

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oyarde
12-23-2016, 03:47 PM
They need to get busy on some NYExit .

Schifference
12-23-2016, 03:54 PM
Find people that want to perform. Fuch them.

presence
12-23-2016, 04:29 PM
“I usually don’t use social media to make a political stand but I feel overwhelmed with emotion. Finding out that it has been decided for us that Rockettes will be performing at the Presidential inauguration makes me feel embarrassed and disappointed. The women I work with are intelligent and are full of love and the decision of performing for a man that stands for everything we’re against is appalling. I am speaking for just myself but please know that after we found out this news, we have been performing with tears in our eyes and heavy hearts. We will not be forced! #notmypresident”

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AGVA, their union, has put in writing to the full time Rockettes that they must accept the inauguration gig or they will lose their jobs. It’s perfect, actually. What could be more fitting for this inauguration than forcing a group of women to do something with their bodies against their will?”

https://sg.style.yahoo.com/radio-city-rockettes-embarrassed-over-trump-inauguration-command-054326339.html

angelatc
12-23-2016, 04:31 PM
Nothing says "Professional" like refusing to do the one damned job you're hired to do.

presence
12-23-2016, 04:33 PM
SALT LAKE CITY — Past presidents have called them "America's Choir," and "a national treasure," but some members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints aren't happy to hear the latest news about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. The Church announced Thursday (http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormon-tabernacle-choir-trump-inauguration) that the choir has accepted an invitation to perform at the inauguration of Donald Trump.
There's been back-and-forth on social media, and an online petition (https://www.change.org/p/the-church-of-jesus-christ-of-latter-day-saints-mormon-tabernacle-choir-should-not-perform-at-trump-inauguration) has gathered thousands of signatures opposed to the decision.
Usually, talk of the choir is nothing but singing their praises.
"They are amazing. It’s probably the most distinguished, best choir in the world," said Zora Christensen, a member of the LDS church.
She and many others visiting Temple Square Thursday evening said it was exciting to hear about the choir's inauguration performance.
"I think that’s awesome to get representation and to be supportive of our new president," Christensen said.
But her son thinks differently.
"To me that's endorsing somebody," said Zac Christensen.
That's the train of thought Randall Thacker had when he read the news Thursday morning.
"My heart sunk," Thacker said. "The feeling now is, how they can do that?"
He started the online petition in hopes of giving others a forum to express similar frustrations and concerns.
"I knew that there would be thousands of people who felt the same way," Thacker said.
In less than a day, more than 3,800 people typed in their online signatures.
"I would hope that the Church would realize that this could be a turning point in the way that they are perceived," Thacker said.
He's worried the choir's music will get lost in the controversy that has surrounded Donald Trump, and the remarks he has made.

"They are going to be perceived as guilty by association to somebody who has had very harsh rhetoric towards minority groups," Thacker explained.

http://fox13now.com/2016/12/22/mixed-reactions-after-mormon-tabernacle-choir-slated-for-trump-inauguration/

timosman
12-23-2016, 04:36 PM
The Rockettes performing at the inauguration of the 43rd president of the United States, Georges W. Bush, on January 18, 2001.

https://www.rockettes.com/photos/a-photographic-history-of-the-rockettes/

https://www.rockettes.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/06/GettyImages-115100434-960x540.jpg

presence
12-23-2016, 05:00 PM
Nothing says "Professional" like refusing to do the one damned job you're hired to do.

They're being asked to endorse a product they don't believe in. I see nothing wrong with saying no.

The right thing to do would be to have those rockettes that do endorse the potus perform and allow the rest to sit it out.

Legally though this ties into citizen's united. So, although I don't have their contract in front of me, I do suspect they could be fired without recourse.

http://prospect.org/article/employer-political-coercion-growing-threat


Employer Political Coercion: A Growing Threat

Alexander Hertel-Fernandez (http://prospect.org/authors/alexander-hertel-fernandez)
November 23, 2015

Since Citizens United, companies can legally require workers to participate in politics—and fire them if they refuse.










Photographee.eu/Shutterstock




This article appears in the Fall 2015 issue of The American Prospect magazine. Subscribe here (https://ssl.palmcoastd.com/21402/apps/ORDOPTION1LANDING?ikey=I**EF1).
A common piece of advice for new hires is to avoid talking about politics, sex, and religion in the workplace. But it may be increasingly difficult for workers to keep their politics to themselves. Thanks to the Supreme Court’s decision in Citizens United, employers now have broad legal rights to campaign for political candidates inside their firms as well as in the public arena. And thanks to new technology, they have the means to track their employees’ political opinions and activities.




Managers and supervisors can now legally require their workers to participate in politics as a condition of employment.



The 2010 Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to unlimited corporate and union campaign spending also allows corporations and unions to communicate directly with employees and members about elections. They can tell them who they should vote for — and, in most states, compel them to do political work or appear at rallies for the candidates (http://www.yalelawjournal.org/forum/addressing-political-captive-audience-workplace-meetings-in-the-post-citizens-united-environment) management supports.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/citizens-united-workplace_us_56be5383e4b08ffac1255c74

helmuth_hubener
12-23-2016, 05:02 PM
but some members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints aren't happy to hear the latest news about the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

Oh brother! :rolleyes:

You have a Church of millions of members, who were disproportionately opposed to President Trump, yes, you can find a few sour grapes. Notice the big contrast between the Rockettes and the Tabernacle Choir: there is no one -- no one -- in the Choir nor associated with the Choir "speaking out" or making any whining noises in any way.

It's just some muckraker slime-media propagandists who were able to dig up a couple disaffected random nobodies willing to whine on cue for them. Just part of a narrative they want to manufacture.

Well some of us are sick of fictional narratives and the slime-balls who are lovingly crafting them for us.

So don't bring us into this. Mormons don't whine. End of story.

presence
12-23-2016, 05:32 PM
merge?

Radio City Rockettes will perform at Trump Inauguration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505684-Radio-City-Rockettes-will-perform-at-Trump-Inauguration) Started by presence (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?36577-presence), Yesterday

Anti Federalist
12-23-2016, 05:56 PM
Meh, If I was DJT, I'd tell 'em all to get fucked.

I'm sure there is somebody out there willing to play the gig without all the SJW hand-wringing and crocodile tears.

Matt Hetfield just moved out of San Fran because he was sick of the leftist elites, maybe get Metallica to play.

presence
12-23-2016, 05:59 PM
Oh brother! :rolleyes:

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End of story.

Churches tend to be 501c3 organizations; legally they lose that status if they endorse individuals in politics.

Not sure how that works post election.

http://www.christianlaw.org/cla/images/layout/WebPDFs/Pastors-Pulpits-Politics-Web.pdf

presence
12-23-2016, 06:04 PM
Meh, If I was DJT, I'd tell 'em all to get $#@!ed.

I'm sure there is somebody out there willing to play the gig without all the SJW hand-wringing and crocodile tears.

Matt Hetfield just moved out of San Fran because he was sick of the leftist elites, maybe get Metallica to play.

James Hetfield.

I don't think Lars would do it.

Probably not James either


METALLICA frontman James Hetfield said in a recent interview with BBC 6 Music that his band stays away from topics like politics


Asked whether he would move back to Denmark if Trump gets in the White House, Ulrich replied: "Yes, certainly sometimes I think about moving home to Denmark.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-lars-ulrich-will-consider-moving-back-to-denmark-if-donald-trump-becomes-president/
http://heaviermetal.net/enough-people-wrote-in-metallicas-james-hetfield-on-super-tuesday-that-he-came-in-second

CPUd
12-23-2016, 06:07 PM
Assuming they can settle their lawsuit against the campaign:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g

angelatc
12-23-2016, 06:50 PM
They're being asked to endorse a product they don't believe in. I see nothing wrong with saying no.


No they're not. They are dancers for hire. They have a contract with their employer.

presence
12-23-2016, 06:52 PM
No they're not. They are dancers for hire. They have a contract with their employer.

I'm a carpenter. I install wood floors. If I get asked by a client to install a cardboard floor with wood grain on it I politely decline and move on to the next gig.

I see nothing wrong with them doing the same.

angelatc
12-23-2016, 07:05 PM
I'm a carpenter. I install wood floors. If I get asked by a client to install a cardboard floor with wood grain on it I politely decline and move on to the next gig.

I see nothing wrong with them doing the same.

Yes, but you're an independent contractor. They're members of a dance troupe. They signed a contract agreeing to perform as part of a team in exchange for compensation. Of course they're free not to perform, but they might need to find a new job after that. Fortunately there are lots of bars in NYC looking for dancing talent.

presence
12-23-2016, 07:20 PM
Of course they're free not to perform, but they might need to find a new job after that.

I generally agree.

More broadly I think the whole notion of singing and dancing at a presidential inauguration to be pretty tacky regardless of who its for.

reported tonight by CBS though...

there are more rockettes than are needed for the event and they won't be firing anyone over it


"The Union never 'demanded' that the Rockettes perform at the inauguration," it said. "A message was sent to the Rockettes last evening that stated the terms of their contract."
The AGVA also confirmed that participation in the inaugural events would be voluntary -- including for those "contractually obligated to perform at scheduled events throughout the year."

"MSG's announcement that the Rockettes were being included in the Presidential inaugural has brought up legitimate concern among our Members, the theatrical community and the public at large," the union conceded, but added: "We are pleased that Radio City has agreed that for those Rockettes with year-round employment, participation in this event will be voluntary as well."

http://www.cbs5az.com/story/34122929/this-story-has-legs-bosses-deny-rockettes-forced-to-perform-at-trump-inaugural

angelatc
12-23-2016, 09:02 PM
We are pleased that Radio City has agreed that for those Rockettes with year-round employment, participation in this event will be voluntary as well."

Yeah. And next year, when they're auditioning again they'll find out why it's a bad idea to embarrass your boss in public.

presence
12-23-2016, 09:18 PM
Personally I feel embarrassed for this country that the rockettes have anything to do with the potus.

The whole concept of ushering in a world leader with half naked women showing off their legs just seems tacky; douchey.

CPUd
12-23-2016, 10:42 PM
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