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timosman
12-18-2016, 11:19 AM
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46056.htm


By Moon Of Alabama December 16, 2016


There is an "elite" coup attempt underway against the U.S. President-elect Trump.
The coup is orchestrated by the camp of Hillary Clinton in association with the CIA and neoconservative powers in Congress.
The plan is to use the CIA's "Russia made Trump the winner" nonsense to swing the electoral college against him. The case would then be bumped up to Congress. Major neocon and warmonger parts of the Republicans could then move the presidency to Clinton or, if that fails, put Trump's vice president-elect Mike Pence onto the throne. The regular bipartisan war business, which a Trump presidency threatens to interrupt, could continue.
Should the coup succeed violent insurrections in the United States are likely to ensue with unpredictable consequences.


The above theses are thus far only a general outlay. No general plan has been published. The scheme though is pretty obvious by now. However, the following contains some speculation.

The priority aim is to deny Trump the presidency. He is too independent and a danger for several power centers within the ruling U.S. power circles. The selection of Tillerson as new Secretary of State only reinforces this (Prediction: Bolton will not get the Deputy position.) Tillerson is for profitable stability, not for regime change adventures. The institutional Trump enemies are:


The CIA which has become the Central Assassination Agency under the Bush and Obama administrations. Huge parts of its budgets depend on a continuation of the war on Syria and the drone assassination campaigns in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. Trump's more isolationist policies would likely end these campaigns and the related budget troughs.
The weapons industry which could lose its enormous sales to its major customers in the Persian Gulf should a President Trump reduce U.S. interference in the Middle East and elsewhere.
The neoconservatives and Likudniks who want the U.S. as Israel's weapon to strong arm the Middle East to the Zionists' benefit.
The general war hawks, military and "humanitarian interventionists" to whom any reduction of the U.S. role as primary power in the world is anathema to their believes.


The current CIA director Brennan, a leading figure of the CIA torture program and Obama consigliere, is in the Clinton/anti-Trump camp. The former CIA heads Hayden and Panetta are public Clinton supporters as is torturer king and former CIA deputy director Michael Morell.

It is thereby no wonder that the CIA is leading the anti-Russian campaign. Its task now is to implant the idea in the U.S. public that Russian intervention skewed the U.S. election towards Trump. The purpose is the delegitimization of the Trump victory in the eyes of the media and public but even more so in the eyes of the electors within the electoral college.

The CIA is heavily supported by the same mainstream media that pushed for Clinton during the election. (These are, not by chance, also the same media that pushed the CIA's earlier "Saddam's Weapon of Mass Destruction" campaign.)

The Democratic partisan and Harvard law Professor Lawrence Lessig is pushing the electors and offers them free personal legal support. He says the electoral college vote is now close.

Could 37 Republican electors, put there by voters in their states to vote for Trump, be convinced to move from electing Trump to abstain or vote for someone else, Trump would miss the needed 270 votes. The whole election of the president would then by kicked up to the House of Representatives.

Should the electors vote for Trump there is still a possibility that members of the House and the Senate could officially question that vote and cause delays or Congressional probes and legal challenges.

Here are the detailed general proceedings and specifics for the electoral college as explained by the National Archives and Records Administration.

Though neoconservatives have no genuine support within the U.S. electorate they have a strong hold on significant parts of Congress and the relevant MSM commentariat. Many leading neoconservatives and war hawks like Robert Kagan, Max Boot and the Washington Post editorial board came out for Clinton during the campaign. Clinton even ran campaign advertisements with Republican Congress luminaries like Lindsay Graham, Sasse and Flake.

The House and the Senate majority may well be on the anti-Trump side if push comes to shove. But whatever the outcome there surely would be intense legal challenges and I expect the case to go up to the Supreme Court.

As an alternative to legal shenanigans Trump's inauguration could be delayed by Obama's order to the intelligence community to create a formal review of Russian intervention in the election by January 20. That is not by chance the official inauguration date! The selling point:


By ordering a “full review” of allegations of Russian into the 2016 election process, President Barack Obama is essentially asking the IC to make an analytical judgment about the validity of the election that will place Trump in the Oval Office.
A "compromise" in Congress could be to wait for the Intelligence Community's analysis and then discuss it before certifying Trump as president. That would end up with no result as National Intelligence Estimates are notoriously vague. Meanwhile the Vice President-elect would sit in as acting President:


If the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration, Section 3 of the 20th Amendment states that the Vice President-elect will act as President until such a time as a President has qualified.

If the congressional or legal process around the Trump election gets delayed, that may be a state for a long time. The ruling Washington blob or borg could well live with an acting President Pence while Trump would have no official say in any government business. (Could Clinton then become acting VP or qualify as the new president?)

The media intervention on the anti-Trump side is heavy.

But first keep in mind that there is no public evidence, ZERO, that Russia indeed had anything to do with the DNC or Podesta or other leaks and the publication of emails by various outlets like Wikileaks.

Craig Murray assures us that he knows that these were not hacks but insider leaks and that he knows the leaker(s). Indeed he now tells us that the emails were handed over to him during a visits in Washington. Former intelligence officials including the technically very knowledgeable former NSA official William Binney concur that the hacking story is false.

All we have heard or seen so far are hearsay rumors and allegations of evidence. To me as experienced IT professional the case is technically laughable just as Murray explains here. If the claimed hacks occurred at all the alleged methods were so common that anybody could have done these. There is not even one claimed fact yet that is technically halfway acceptable as evidence that "Russia did it".

But still the NYT runs a big package of pieces telling us that "Russia did it" based on the non-factual CIA rumors and unprofessional IT assertions by Crowdstrike, the self-promoting IT security company the DNC hired and paid. Before that the Washington Post published major claims of Russian interference by anonymous officials. NBC News now tops that with "intelligence officials" saying Putin himself ran the hacking campaign. Authors of the story are the long time insider hacks Bill Arkin and Ken Dilanian known for clearing his stories with the CIA before publishing. The next story will tells us that Vladimir Valdimirovich himself was punching the keyboard.

Many news outlets and editorials follow these "leads".

Part of the scheme the Clinton campaign has worked out was explained by a former opposition research consultant to the Democratic National Council, the Ukrainian-American Alexandra (aka Andrea) Chalupa, in this thread:


Andrea Chalupa ‏@AndreaChalupa Dec 11
1.) Electoral College meets Dec. 19. If Electors ignore #StateOfEmergency we're in, & Trump gets elected, we can stop him Jan. 6 in Congress

2.) If any objections to Electoral College vote are made, they must be submitted in writing, signed by at least 1 House member & 1 Senator

3.) If objections are presented, House & Senate withdraw to their chambers to consider their merits under procedures set out in federal law.
...

Editorials and op-eds in the major papers are pushing the scheme along. Just for example from a long list A.J. Dionne in the Washington Post:


The CIA’s finding that Russia actively intervened in our election to make Trump president is an excellent reason for the electors to consider whether they should exercise their independent power. At the very least, they should be briefed on what the CIA knows, and in particular on whether there is any evidence that Trump or his lieutenants were engaged with Russia during the campaign.

The New York Times editorial laments about Trump ridiculing the CIA fairy tales it promotes.

Many people who have voted for Trump would be disgusted and outraged if or when Trump will be denied his office. Many of them are armed and would protest. Violence is ensured should the coup succeed.

Trump selected four former generals to joins his cabinet and staff. Should the troubles escalate we might be roughly in for a scenario as laid out in the 1992 military paper: The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012 (pdf) by Charles J. Dunlap.

The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Information Clearing House editorial policy.

Zippyjuan
12-18-2016, 11:34 AM
Trump is one of the elite. Just look at who he is giving jobs to. He has more elite than Obama did.

nikcers
12-18-2016, 11:39 AM
Trump is one of the elite. Just look at who he is giving jobs to. He has more elite than Obama did. Yeah that's why we have to have a million articles claiming he is not, do you think Bush or Clinton would of gotten away with an oil CEO for secretary of state? I guess Cheney is an oil CEO who was VP but, at least our new VP doesn't want to be like Cheney right?

Zippyjuan
12-18-2016, 11:42 AM
The environmentalists would not have tolerated it. They would be up in arms.

timosman
12-18-2016, 11:42 AM
That's why the elite love him, do you think Bush or Clinton would of gotten away with an oil CEO for secretary of state?

I am with her.

timosman
12-18-2016, 11:43 AM
The environmentalists would not have tolerated it. They would be up in arms.

That's why we had Hillary. She made a real difference.

nikcers
12-18-2016, 11:50 AM
I am with her.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/richard-dick-cheney1.jpg

AZJoe
12-18-2016, 12:09 PM
http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/CIA-Soft-coup-1.jpg

timosman
12-18-2016, 12:13 PM
If you were Kim Jong-un you'd be like: what the fuck these assholes want from me? Just look at the coup in their own country! I will not even talk about how often they shoot their own presidents. Fuck democracy! :D

AZJoe
12-18-2016, 01:01 PM
snip


The plan is to use the CIA's "Russia made Trump the winner" nonsense to swing the electoral college …

the following contains some speculation: The priority aim is to deny Trump the presidency. He is too independent and a danger for several power centers within the ruling U.S. power circles. The selection of Tillerson as new Secretary of State only reinforces this (Prediction: Bolton will not get the Deputy position.) Tillerson is for profitable stability, not for regime change adventures.

The institutional Trump enemies are:

The CIA which has become the Central Assassination Agency under the Bush and Obama administrations. Huge parts of its budgets depend on a continuation of the war on Syria and the drone assassination campaigns …
The weapons industry which could lose its enormous sales ..
The neoconservatives and Likudniks who want the U.S. as Israel's weapon to strong arm the Middle East to the Zionists' benefit.
The general war hawks …
The current CIA director Brennan, a leading figure of the CIA torture program … The former CIA heads Hayden and Panetta … and former CIA deputy director Michael Morell.

It is thereby no wonder that the CIA is leading the anti-Russian campaign. … The purpose is the delegitimization of the Trump victory … The CIA is heavily supported by the same mainstream media …

Though neoconservatives have no genuine support within the U.S. electorate they have a strong hold on significant parts of Congress …

keep in mind that there is no public evidence, ZERO, that Russia indeed had anything to do with the DNC or Podesta or other leaks …
Craig Murray assures us that he knows that these were not hacks but insider leaks …
Former intelligence officials including the technically very knowledgeable former NSA official William Binney concur that the hacking story is false.
All we have heard or seen so far are hearsay rumors and allegations of evidence. …

Part of the scheme the Clinton campaign has worked out was explained by a former opposition research consultant to the Democratic National Council …

AZJoe
12-18-2016, 01:13 PM
Investigative Reporter Robert Parry (who broke many of the Iran-Contra stories) Weighs In:

A Spy Coup in America?
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/18/a-spy-coup-in-america/

U.S. intelligence agencies are stepping up a campaign to delegitimize Donald Trump as a Russian stooge …

It’s also true that intelligence community sources frequently plant stories in major mainstream publications that serve propaganda or political goals, including stories that can be misleading or entirely false. …

Clinton’s campaign was hobbled by leaked emails from the Democratic National Committee – showing it undercutting Clinton’s chief rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders – and from her campaign chairman John Podesta …

over the past few weeks, the U.S. intelligence community … has tried to delegitimize Trump by using leaks to the mainstream U.S. news media … This remarkable series of assessments from the CIA … come on the eve of the Electoral College members assembling to cast their formal votes …

At the center of this controversy is the question of who leaked or hacked the DNC and Podesta emails. The CIA has planted the story in The Washington Post, The New York Times and other mainstream outlets that it was Russia …

But WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has publicly denied that Russia was the source …. British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray, has suggested that the DNC leak came from a “disgruntled” Democrat upset with the DNC’s sandbagging of the Sanders campaign and that the Podesta leak came from the U.S. intelligence community. … Murray also suggested that the DNC leak and the Podesta leak came from two different sources, neither of them the Russian government. … “In both cases they are leaks by Americans.”


“You have also to remember that there’s a big financial interest – particularly in the armaments industry – in a bad American relationship with Russia and the worse the relationship with Russia is the larger contracts the armaments industry can expect especially in the most high-tech high-profit side of fighter jets and missiles and that kind of thing.” …

even if that unlikely event – defeating Trump in the Electoral College – proves impossible, Trump would at least be weakened as he enters the White House and thus might not be able to move very aggressively toward a détente with Russia. …

the mainstream U.S. media will surely encourage the Congress to escalate the New Cold War, regardless of Trump’s desires, and thus ensure plenty more money for both the intelligence agencies and the military contractors. …

U.S. intelligence was almost surely keeping tabs on Podesta’s communications because of his ties to Saudi Arabia and other foreign governments. So, the U.S. intelligence community represents another suspect in the case of who leaked those emails to WikiLeaks. …

timosman
09-28-2019, 08:20 PM
bump

UWDude
09-28-2019, 08:27 PM
I am not joking. All coup plotters should be executed.
There are tens of thousands of them.
Scatter them into the winds.

Swordsmyth
09-28-2019, 08:30 PM
I am not joking. All coup plotters should be executed.
There are tens of thousands of them.
Scatter them into the winds.
And if they start a civil war to avoid it then all their followers should be expelled into Mexico.

UWDude
09-28-2019, 08:33 PM
And if they start a civil war to avoid it then all their followers should be expelled into Mexico.

That's the tricky thing, isn't it? If they get the war started, they win.

Divide and Conquer works for a reason.

Swordsmyth
09-28-2019, 08:39 PM
That's the tricky thing, isn't it? If they get the war started, they win.

Divide and Conquer works for a reason.
If we win the civil war and expel the coup's supporters we win in the long run.

You can't divide and conquer a nation that has no treasonous half.

UWDude
09-28-2019, 08:42 PM
If we win the civil war and expel the coup's supporters we win in the long run.

You can't divide and conquer a nation that has no treasonous half.

LoL, making the "treasonous half" is how you divide and conquer.

You inject yourself in, and then make them fight over how to fight you back.

It's a dialectic that always works because all societies need hierarchies.
therefore there will always be the disenfranchised.
You can also always count on the young male rebellion.

Swordsmyth
09-28-2019, 08:45 PM
LoL, making the "treasonous half" is how you divide and conquer.

You inject yourself in, and then make them fight over how to fight you back.

It's a dialectic that always works because all societies need hierarchies.
therefore there will always be the disenfranchised.
You can also always count on the young male rebellion.
But they would have to start all over again.
Right now they have half and are trying for a treasonous majority.

Pauls' Revere
09-28-2019, 08:52 PM
If you were Kim Jong-un you'd be like: what the $#@! these $#@!s want from me? Just look at the coup in their own country! I will not even talk about how often they shoot their own presidents. $#@! democracy! :D

+rep.

ROFLMAO! :D:chequeredflag:

Working Poor
09-29-2019, 12:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2t_I20Sa6Y