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jllundqu
12-16-2016, 11:31 AM
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/chinese-warship-underwater-drone-stolen/index.html



A US oceanographic vessel Thursday had its underwater drone stolen by a Chinese warship literally right in front of the eyes of the American crew, a US defense official told CNN Friday.

In the latest encounter in international waters in the South China Sea region, the USNS Bowditch was sailing about 100 miles off the port at Subic Bay when the incident occurred, according to the official.

Bowditch had stopped in the water to pick up two underwater drones. At that point a Chinese naval ship that had been shadowing the Bowditch put a small boat into the water. That small boat came up alongside and the Chinese crew took one of the drones.

The US got no answer from the Chinese on the radio when it said the drone was American property, the official said.

As they turned away, the Chinese did come up on the radio and indicated they were returning to their own operations.

US oceanographic research vessels are often followed in the water under the assumption they are spying. In this case, however, the drone was simply measuring ocean conditions, the official said.

The Pentagon has not officially commented on the incident.

Although it's unclear what the motivation was for the Chinese, the seizing of the drone comes on the heels of other provocative incidents that have happened since President-elect Donald Trump received a congratulatory call with Taiwan's President, a violation of the US's agreement with China's "One China policy". China publicly voiced their disapproval of that incident and contacted the White House at the time.

Who buys this bullshit?? A US Navy Drone Sub in highly volatile south china sea was "simply measuring ocean conditions"?? Put this in the #FakeNews category...

tod evans
12-16-2016, 01:14 PM
Is this the 'hope-n-change' Obama's been promising for years?

CPUd
12-16-2016, 02:53 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/16/politics/chinese-warship-underwater-drone-stolen/index.html



Who buys this bullshit?? A US Navy Drone Sub in highly volatile south china sea was "simply measuring ocean conditions"?? Put this in the #FakeNews category...

They called it US oceanographic vessel when they should have been calling it "US oceanographic vessel".

http://i.imgur.com/CU7cHWf.jpg

jllundqu
12-16-2016, 03:13 PM
It's been widely reported that it was conducting a military mission (Huffpo) and that it was on a US Navy mission...

69360
12-16-2016, 04:44 PM
I'm sure we steal China's crap all the time too.

phill4paul
12-16-2016, 05:00 PM
Um, why didn't they just submerge it when it looked like they might be intercepted?

TheCount
12-16-2016, 07:27 PM
Um, why didn't they just submerge it when it looked like they might be intercepted?I don't think they're that fancy. Calling it a drone sub is a huge stretch.http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/NAVY_UUV_Slocum_Glider_USC_lg.jpg


For size reference:

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/47/67/63/10452206/3/920x920.jpg

phill4paul
12-16-2016, 07:35 PM
I don't think they're that fancy. Calling it a drone sub is a huge stretch.http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/NAVY_UUV_Slocum_Glider_USC_lg.jpg


For size reference:

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/47/67/63/10452206/3/920x920.jpg

Light weight. Looks like it could fill ballast an drop pretty quick to me.

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2016, 07:40 AM
This is dangerous escalation in final weeks of Obama regime. They better stop messing with his legacy or he is going to give a very strongly worded speech a in a very angry tone (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?501222-Obama-angrily-berates-black-caucus-You-insult-my-legacy-if-you-don-t-turn-out-for-Clinton&p=6315223&viewfull=1#post6315223). They don't want that.

luctor-et-emergo
12-17-2016, 08:44 AM
Not a very friendly move by the Chinese. I hope that doesn't become a trend.

CPUd
12-17-2016, 08:50 AM
https://i.imgur.com/eycm6p8.png

AZJoe
12-17-2016, 10:49 AM
What were Chinese naval ships doing in the Caribbean?
I mean US certainly would not be doing something provocative like sending "research" drones under Chinese ships in say the South China Sea.

pcosmar
12-17-2016, 10:55 AM
Somebody thinks the Chinese are stupid.

Somebody could get a lot of people killed.

Dangergirl
12-17-2016, 11:16 AM
They probably figured they built the dang thing...

robert68
12-17-2016, 11:25 AM
"China will give back seized drone, criticizes U.S. 'hyping up' the issue (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-drone-idUSKBN14526J)"

Reuters

enhanced_deficit
12-17-2016, 11:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/eycm6p8.png


CNN is saying they said they're going giving it back.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/17/politics/china-drone-donald-trump/index.html


That was quick.

Maybe we should consider electing business leaders to public service offices more often.

robert68
12-17-2016, 11:42 AM
That was quick.

Maybe we should consider electing business leaders to public service offices more often.

This "business leader" said taking the drone was "unpresidented"[sic], so we should consider not electing Sinophobes.

Zippyjuan
12-17-2016, 01:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eycm6p8.png

Trump wants WWIII with China!! (some suggest in was in retaliation to Trump's Taiwan phone call).

robert68
12-17-2016, 01:29 PM
Although the ministry said the drone would be returned to the United States in a “proper way,” the statement stopped short of saying when or how the device, which Chinese and American analysts say was most likely used to gather intelligence about Chinese submarine activity in contested waters, would be returned, or if it would be handed back intact.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/world/asia/china-us-drone.html?_r=0

dannno
12-17-2016, 01:45 PM
This "business leader" said taking the drone was "unpresidented"[sic], so we should consider not electing Sinophobes.

Do you think Trump types out his own tweets?

nikcers
12-17-2016, 02:46 PM
Do you think Trump types out his own tweets?

Trump refuses to pay his contractors that do a bad job so someone who is not getting any Christmas presents for their kids this year.

robert68
12-17-2016, 03:13 PM
Do you think Trump types out his own tweets?

The point is the same whether the typo is his or not. He's a Sinophobe troublemaker.

AZJoe
12-18-2016, 02:04 PM
"This incident is the latest in a series of provocative US actions … Imagine if Beijing did something similar in America’s gulf or close to its east or west coasts. US initiated hostilities might follow.

Washington continues testing China’s patience provocatively, much like its doing to Russia in the Black Sea and along its borders, increasing its military presence – both nations entitled to respond defensively. …

Last April, US Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, aboard the US carrier Stennis sailing in the South China Sea, said the Pentagon would shortly deploy “new undersea drones in multiple sizes and diverse payloads that can, importantly, operate in shallow water where manned submersibles cannot.” …

They’ll be used in waterways worldwide, undetected if things go as planned, clear threats to China, Russia and other targeted nations. … US encroachment incidents happen with disturbing regularity. Ones in Chinese waters occur in its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ), Beijing legitimately calling them a national security threat, …

Washington seeks dominance over areas not its own, risking direct confrontation. … America’s rage to dominate assures continued disturbing incidents, risking eventual war."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/pivot-to-asia-underwater-spying-us-drones-threaten-china/5563123

Zippyjuan
12-19-2016, 11:52 AM
After threatening China for taking the drone Trump now is saying they should keep it. http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-china-drone-trump-20161218-story.html


President-elect Donald Trump says the Chinese government should be told “we don't want the drone they stole back” and “let them keep it!”

Trump's tweet Saturday evening came after U.S. officials confirmed that they “secured an understanding” for the return of the U.S. Navy unmanned underwater glider, which China seized in the South China Sea. The comments may extend one of the most serious incidents between the American and the Chinese militaries in years.

The Chinese navy seized the drone on Thursday; the Pentagon said it was being operated by civilian contractors to conduct oceanic research. The U.S. lodged a formal diplomatic complaint and demanded the drone back.

Chinese Defense Ministry spokesman Yang Yujun issued a statement late Saturday saying that a Chinese navy lifeboat discovered an unknown device in the South China Sea on Thursday.

Dr.3D
12-19-2016, 12:28 PM
They probably just wanted to have one so they could build one for themselves. They are always copying stuff others have come up with.

jmdrake
12-19-2016, 12:34 PM
Not a very friendly move by the Chinese. I hope that doesn't become a trend.

It already is. The Chinese helped the Iranians capture this drone remember?

https://img.rt.com/files/oldfiles/news/iran-us-drone-decoded-609/iran-december-2011-rq-170.si.jpg

Finders keepers losers weepers.....

jmdrake
12-19-2016, 12:38 PM
Do you think Trump types out his own tweets?

A) You don't?

B) Are you really so enthralled with Donald J. Trump that you can't imagine him making a spelling mistake?