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CPUd
12-16-2016, 12:04 AM
Trump's pick for envoy to Israel expects embassy in Jerusalem

By Yara Bayoumy | WASHINGTON

President-elect Donald Trump said on Thursday he will nominate bankruptcy attorney David Friedman as U.S. ambassador to Israel, and Friedman said he looked forward to taking up his post in Jerusalem, implying a move from Tel Aviv that would mark a break in longstanding U.S. foreign policy and anger the Muslim world.

While campaigning for the presidency, Trump pledged to switch the embassy from Tel Aviv, where it has been located for 68 years, to Jerusalem, all but enshrining the city as Israel's capital regardless of international objections.

"(Friedman) has been a long-time friend and trusted advisor to me. His strong relationships in Israel will form the foundation of his diplomatic mission and be a tremendous asset to our country as we strengthen the ties with our allies and strive for peace in the Middle East," Trump said in a statement issued by his team on Thursday.

The Republican made clear during his campaign that he would support Israel in a number of critical areas, said he would not put pressure on Israel to engage in talks with the Palestinians.

The United States and other powers do not regard Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Other nations embassies are located in Tel Aviv - and do not recognize Israel's annexation of Arab East Jerusalem following its capture in the 1967 Middle East war.

One of the thorniest issues in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute is resolving the rival demands for Jerusalem's future.

Palestinians regard the ancient city - which contains sites sacred to the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths - as the future capital of a separate state.

Friedman, who specializes in litigation and bankruptcy law, said in the statement that he would work tirelessly to "strengthen the unbreakable bond between our two countries and advance the cause of peace within the region, and look forward to doing this from the U.S. embassy in Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem."

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has had a fractious relationship with Democratic President Barack Obama, has welcomed Trump's election, chatting with him by phone and posting a video on Facebook promoting ties with the United States.

In an interview with Israeli left-leaning newspaper Haaretz, in June, Friedman was asked whether Trump would support the creation of an independent Palestinian state - a bedrock of U.S. foreign policy which supports a two-state solution.

"The answer is – not without the approval of the Israelis,” said Friedman. "If the Israelis don’t want to do it, so he doesn’t think they should do it. ... He does not think it is an American imperative for it to be an independent Palestinian state."

There was no immediate comment from the Israel embassy in Washington on the news.

ADVOCATE OF SETTLEMENT BUILDING

Friedman is also considered far-right on issues, including settlement building and has advocated for the annexation of the West Bank, which Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 war.

The Obama administration has been highly critical of Israeli settlement construction in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem. Most countries view all Israeli settlements on occupied land that the Palestinians seek for their own state as illegal.

The Palestinians, who want to establish a state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, with East Jerusalem as its capital, say settlements are a fundamental obstacle to peace. The last U.S.-backed talks on statehood collapsed in 2014.

J Street, a liberal pro-Israel group based in Washington, said it was "vehemently opposed" to Friedman's nomination.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-israel-idUSKBN1442ZV

undergroundrr
12-16-2016, 04:24 PM
What do you think? Good pick?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/15/trump-israel-ambassador-david-friedman


Donald Trump has named as his ambassador to Israel a pro-settler lawyer who has described some US Jews as worse than concentration camp prisoner-guards.

David Friedman, a bankruptcy lawyer who represented the president-elect over his failing hotels in Atlantic City, served Trump’s advisory team on the Middle East. He has set out a number of hardline positions on Israeli-Palestinian relations, including fervent opposition to the two-state solution and strong support for an undivided Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

He has called President Barack Obama an antisemite and suggested that US Jews who oppose the Israeli occupation of the West Bank are worse than kapos, Nazi-era prisoners who served as concentration camp guards.

Liberal Jewish groups in the US denounced the appointment as “reckless” and described Friedman – a man with no experience of foreign service – as the “least experienced pick” ever for a US ambassador to Israel.

Yossi Dagan, a prominent Israeli settler leader and friend of Friedman, welcomed the news, describing him as “a true friend and partner of the state of Israel and the settlements”. Morton Klein, the president of the Zionist Organization of America, said Friedman had “the potential to be the greatest US ambassador to Israel ever”.

An indication of how Friedman views Israel came in a 16-point action plan he issued with another Trump adviser in November. It included “ensur[ing] that Israel receives maximum military, strategic and tactical cooperation from the United States” and a declaration of war on the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement and pro-Palestinian campus activism.

Friedman, 57, has worked with Trump for more than 15 years and advised the president-elect on the Middle East during his election campaign. He represented Trump after the umbrella company for his three Atlantic City casinos, Trump Entertainment Resorts, went into bankruptcy in 2009.

He said he was looking forward to taking up his post in “the US embassy in Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem”, indicating Trump’s determination to overturn years of US policy and move the embassy from Tel Aviv. The change would be a potentially explosive gesture in the Middle East, as the status of Jerusalem is one of the issues in the long-stalled Israeli-Palestinian negotiations.

His links with Bet El, along with recent revelations that the family charity of Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, gave money to one of the West Bank’s most hard-line ideological settlements, suggests the settler movement will have an unprecedented number of advocates in the heart of Washington.

Announcing the appointment in a statement, Trump said: “[Friedman] has been a long-time friend and trusted adviser to me. His strong relationships in Israel will form the foundation of his diplomatic mission and be a tremendous asset to our country as we strengthen the ties with our allies and strive for peace in the Middle East.”

The announcement appears to have caught Israeli analysts by surprise. The Haaretz columnist Chemi Shalev said Friedman made Israel’s rightwing prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, “seem like a leftwing defeatist”.

“From where Friedman stands,” he said, “most Israelis, never mind most American Jews, are more or less traitors.”

Friedman disagrees with the general international consensus that the settlements are illegal and he opposes a ban on settlement construction on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem.

He wrote in the Jerusalem Post during the US election campaign that Israel would feel “no pressure” under a Trump administration. “America and Israel will enjoy unprecedented military and strategic cooperation, and there will be no daylight between the two countries,” he said.

In a column for the Israel National News website, he compared the liberal Jewish US lobby group J Street to concentration camp prisoner-guards and described its supporters as “smug advocates of Israel’s destruction delivered from the comfort of their secure American sofas – it’s hard to imagine anyone worse”.

He went further at the Saban forum earlier this month, saying J Street’s supporters were “not Jewish, and they’re not pro-Israel”.

The J Street president, Jeremy Ben Ami, said in a statement on Thursday: “J Street is vehemently opposed to the nomination of David Friedman. This nomination is reckless, putting America’s reputation in the region and credibility around the world at risk.”

The National Jewish Democratic Council tweeted: “Trump must stand for a strong US-Israel relationship and take it seriously. [There] hasn’t ever been a less experienced pick for US ambassador to Israel.”

Lara Friedman, of Americans for Peace Now, tweeted: “I don’t know about the Palestinians, but I know Jews who truly care about Israel’s security, democracy & place in the world are outraged.”

Like Trump, Friedman is an admirer of Vladimir Putin, and has portrayed the Russian president as fighting Islamic State in Syria despite little of the Russian war effort being focused on Isis.

“Vladimir Putin gets it,” Friedman wrote in November last year. “He may be a ‘thug,’ as he was recently described by Senator [Marco] Rubio, but he knows how to identify a national objective, execute a military plan, and ultimately prevail.”

undergroundrr
12-17-2016, 09:26 AM
Bump.

CPUd
12-17-2016, 09:41 AM
https://i.imgur.com/gua5HTD.jpg

CPUd
12-23-2016, 06:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7oxanFi_4

devil21
12-31-2016, 06:38 PM
OP content announced right after Trump met with Mossad. No US media covered it.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4894307,00.html


Director of the Mossad, Yossi Cohen, clandestinely visited the United States to meet with President-elect Donald Trump's staff and brief them [him] on pressing security matters including the Iranian nuclear deal, the Syrian civil war, terror threats and the Palestinian issue.

The security delegation was organized by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and was led by National Security Council head Yaakov Nagel. The -current Obama administration- Israeli ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer was also present during meetings.

juleswin
12-31-2016, 06:41 PM
Remember guys, during the campaign he said he was going to be neutral when it comes to the Israeli/Palestinian issue and the neocons went berserk. Only time would tell if he was playing his supporters or the neocons.

CPUd
12-31-2016, 09:43 PM
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https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/814129958385831936

enhanced_deficit
01-01-2017, 08:49 AM
Trump has not stated that as his policy but if he did, would it mean WaPo was right in suggesting that Trump was anti-semitic since such a step would put Israel in greater danger?




https://s32.postimg.org/6l6kepvn9/image.jpg


Anti-Semitism is no longer an undertone of Trump’s campaign. It’s the melody.

What Donald Trump is doing on the campaign trail

By Dana Milbank Opinion writer November 7

In the final hours, the mask came off.
Donald Trump and his surrogates have been playing footsie with American neo-Nazis for months: tweeting their memes, retweeting their messages, appearing on their radio shows. After an Oct. 13 speech in which Trump warned that Hillary Clinton “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty” and that “a global power structure” is conspiring against ordinary Americans, the Anti-Defamation League urged Trump to “avoid rhetoric and tropes that historically have been used against Jews.”
Well, Trump just gave his reply. On Friday, he released a closing ad for his campaign repeating offending lines from that speech, this time illustrated with images of prominent Jews: financier George Soros (accompanying the words “those who control the levers of power”), Fed Chair Janet Yellen (with the words “global special interests”) and Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein (following the “global power structure” quote). The ad shows Hillary Clinton and says she partners “with these people who don’t have your good in mind.”
Anti-Semitism is no longer an undertone of Trump’s campaign. It’s the melody.

At first, it was genteel chauvinism, such as Trump telling Jewish Republicans they wouldn’t support him “because I don’t want your money”; the fact that he has a Jewish son-in-law gave him some cover.

Then we had Trump’s tweet of an image, previously found on an anti-Semitic message board, of a Star of David atop a pile of cash; Trump later objected to his campaign’s decision to remove the image. Trump retweeted a message from @WhiteGenocideTM (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/22/did-a-donald-trump-intern-do-this-retweet-of-whitegenocidetm/), phony crime statistics (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/) that originated with neo-Nazis and a quote from Benito Mussolini (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/donald-trump-retweets-post-likening-him-to-mussolini/). His campaign blamed an intern for tweeting an image of Nazi soldiers superimposed on the American flag next to Trump’s likeness.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/anti-semitism-is-no-longer-an-undertone-of-trumps-campaign-its-the-melody/2016/11/07/b1ad6e22-a50a-11e6-8042-f4d111c862d1_story.html








OP content announced right after Trump met with Mossad. No US media covered it.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4894307,00.html


How could WaPo and NYT miss this news especially considering recent Adler threat scandal?


Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama (http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/publisher-of-the-atlanta-jewish-times-suggests-mossad-should-assassinate-obama.html)

Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
John Cook reports at Gawker (http://gawker.com/5877892/):
Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html). Either way, problem solved!
Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html)):

Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.
Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.


http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ADLER-OPED-HIGHLIGHT.jpg

jmdrake
01-01-2017, 09:39 AM
Remember guys, during the campaign he said he was going to be neutral when it comes to the Israeli/Palestinian issue and the neocons went berserk. Only time would tell if he was playing his supporters or the neocons.

That's just it. Which supporters? Some of his supporters were/are fervent teocons (tm)*. During the same campaign where he promised to be neutral he also promised not to be neutral (picking Jerusalem as the capital), so like so many other issues (immigration, gay rights, gun control, abortion), he's been all over the map. Who knows what he will do? But we're stuck with him at this point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1SFWU5tXAE

* I'm going to copyright the term "teocon" or "Tea Party neoconservative." I've been using it since Rand first ran for the senate to describe a large segment of the KY electorate that he was playing to which like the idea of liberty but also support an Israel first / interventionist foreign policy.

juleswin
01-01-2017, 12:19 PM
That's just it. Which supporters? Some of his supporters were/are fervent teocons (tm)*. During the same campaign where he promised to be neutral he also promised not to be neutral (picking Jerusalem as the capital), so like so many other issues (immigration, gay rights, gun control, abortion), he's been all over the map. Who knows what he will do? But we're stuck with him at this point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1SFWU5tXAE

* I'm going to copyright the term "teocon" or "Tea Party neoconservative." I've been using it since Rand first ran for the senate to describe a large segment of the KY electorate that he was playing to which like the idea of liberty but also support an Israel first / interventionist foreign policy.

I have to say that Trump brought a real coalition of people behind him. He had the christian evangelicals, the teocons, the faux libertarians, the paleocons (see Tom Woods, Tom DiLorenzo, Lew Rockwell etc), anti war people etc etc. But the supporters I speak of are the ones on this forum and else where who made the argument that if the neocons are against him that somehow means that he is against their interest.

This should also be a wake up call to the Syrians and Russians who think Trump is anti neocon. They know very well that the Israelis support the revolution who stand against Syria and their Russian counterpart. He has already back tracked on the promising he made in the campaign about working with the Russians, now it is "lets take a huge chunk of Syria to create a safe zone" which you do by first creating a no fly zone to seize Syrian land.

goldenequity
01-01-2017, 01:11 PM
I think of it like competing Advertising agencies.
'J Street' just lost their account.
They were attached to the 'old model'.

That fact and that you have the above 'fluff' pieces
from the hegemons Reuters/Guardian
tells you all you need to know:
They've ALREADY adapted to the
'Make <insert ANY country here> Great Again' model.
Kissinger as much as made it 'official'.

'Nationalism' is sweeping the Globe.
I wouldn't expect it to be 'peaceful'.
An authoritarian Israel acting unilaterally
surrounded by butthurt sons of Ishmael
armed w/ tow missiles, stingers and VBIEDs
doesn't sound good.

In the meantime, globalist banks and corps KNOW
there's going to be LOTS of taxes spent into loans
for Arms and Walls and Yellow metal
to make the cattle farms 'great'.

robert68
01-01-2017, 01:23 PM
"Trump advisers want Netanyahu to attend inauguration (http://nypost.com/2016/12/31/trump-advisers-want-netanyahu-to-attend-inauguration/)"


President-elect Donald Trump’s advisers want to invite Israeli President Benjamin Netanyahu to the inauguration or arrange a meeting of the two leaders before then, a source close to the transition said.

Transition leaders led by Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner have been aggressively courting Netanyahu and want him to attend the Jan. 20 festivities, the source said.

“There’s a plan for Trump to meet with Netanyahu,” the source said. “They’re talking all the time. And Netanyahu is talking about possibly going to the inauguration.”

Netanyahu congratulated Trump on his victory a day after the presidential election, and Trump had invited the Israeli leader to meet in the US at his “first opportunity.”

goldenequity
01-01-2017, 05:18 PM
TAKEAWAY:



David Friedman, 57, has worked with Trump for more than 15 years
http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=347830

"Friedman makes Israel’s right wing prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, “seem like a left wing defeatist”.

“From where Friedman stands,” he said, “most Israelis, never mind most American Jews, are more or less traitors.”

Friedman disagrees with the general international consensus that the settlements are illegal
and he opposes a ban on settlement construction on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem.

He wrote in the Jerusalem Post during the US election campaign
that Israel would feel “no pressure” under a Trump administration.

“America and Israel will enjoy unprecedented military and strategic cooperation,
and there will be no daylight between the two countries,” he said.

juleswin
01-01-2017, 06:17 PM
TAKEAWAY:



David Friedman, 57, has worked with Trump for more than 15 years
http://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?ID=347830

"Friedman makes Israel’s right wing prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, “seem like a left wing defeatist”.

“From where Friedman stands,” he said, “most Israelis, never mind most American Jews, are more or less traitors.”

Friedman disagrees with the general international consensus that the settlements are illegal
and he opposes a ban on settlement construction on the West Bank and in East Jerusalem.

He wrote in the Jerusalem Post during the US election campaign
that Israel would feel “no pressure” under a Trump administration.

“America and Israel will enjoy unprecedented military and strategic cooperation,
and there will be no daylight between the two countries,” he said.

I am somewhat conflicted about the focus on the ambassador. Shouldn't the Israeli ambassador be pro Israel? my problem is with the candidate who said in the campaign that he would be neutral when it comes to Israeli/Palestinian issue not being neutral.

robert68
01-01-2017, 11:05 PM
I am somewhat conflicted about the focus on the ambassador. Shouldn't the Israeli ambassador be pro Israel? my problem is with the candidate who said in the campaign that he would be neutral when it comes to Israeli/Palestinian issue not being neutral.

You must be young.

goldenequity
01-02-2017, 10:14 AM
I am somewhat conflicted about the focus on the ambassador. Shouldn't the Israeli ambassador be pro Israel? my problem is with the candidate who said in the campaign that he would be neutral when it comes to Israeli/Palestinian issue not being neutral.
What worries me is Israel's blood feud
down to the bone
with Iran.

Add to it,
a US/neocon/fundamental 'Christian'/MIplex military 'pledge'
to a growing ultra Nationalistic Israel
moving their new 'Capital' to Jerusalem..

It's going to take a 'steady hand' to navigate through 2017...
and that's only IF the world's economies don't go into the toilet
at the same time.

Throw in the angry and hopeless displaced millions
roaming the continents coming face-to-face with
the same unemployed 'ours-not-yours' Nationalism
and it's going to take compassion, forgiveness and understanding
to get through it WHILE they're chopping your head off
and setting fire to your churches, temples and synagogues.

You and I can't do much about that
but we can show kindness, love, forgiveness and compassion
to the one's in front of us
while we keep our sidearms loaded and our homes safe.
The very best 2 you all (you too Zippy :) ) in 2017.

CPUd
01-02-2017, 10:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/6ydjLOy.jpg
Trump Skipping Next Fox Debate for AIPAC (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?492109-Trump-Skipping-Next-Fox-Debate-for-AIPAC)

goldenequity
01-02-2017, 01:23 PM
It's going to take a 'steady hand' to navigate through 2017...
and that's only IF the world's economies don't go into the toilet
at the same time.

Throw in the angry and hopeless displaced millions
roaming the continents coming face-to-face with
the same unemployed 'ours-not-yours' Nationalism...

1,000 migrants storm border fence at Spanish enclave of Ceuta (Morroco border) (http://www.euractiv.com/section/justice-home-affairs/news/1000-migrants-storm-border-fence-at-spanish-enclave-of-ceuta/)

http://assets.euractiv.com/lazy-load/img/crop/16x9/800/http://www.euractiv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/01/CEUTA.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PuhjoRRiZU

Why Walls will Work Wonderful While Wiping away Whiny White Warrior's Websites. Wong.

Cologne Police Detain 100s of 'African' Men over New Year (http://www.voanews.com/a/cologne-police-detain-african-men/3658708.html?utm_content=socialflow&utm_campaign=en&utm_source=voa_news&utm_medium=twitter)

https://gdb.voanews.com/8F9702E0-F7B3-41EE-876E-6FE4DC8D346E_w987_r1_s.jpg


Authorities fielded over 1,500 officers across Cologne
for New Year's celebrations in response to criticism
that they failed to stop hundreds of robberies and sexual assaults —
blamed largely on men of North African origin — last year.

More than 50 injured in Morocco-Spain border clash (http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/321637/more-than-50-injured-in-morocco-spain-border-clash)

http://www.radionz.co.nz/assets/news_crops/24926/eight_col_000_IY1F0.jpg?1483330955


Only two were successful, but both were injured scaling the 6m fence and needed hospital treatment.
One guard lost an eye, officials said.

The attempt comes after more than 400 migrants succeeded in breaching Ceuta's fence in December.

Hundreds of sub-Saharan African migrants living illegally in Morocco
try to enter Ceuta and Melilla,
Spain's other North African enclave,
each year in hope of getting to Europe.

The enclaves are Europe's only land borders in Africa.

fr33
01-02-2017, 11:58 PM
Unfortunately it's part of being a republican, it seems.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-would-move-us-israel-embassy-to-capital-jerusalem-2012-4

fr33
01-03-2017, 12:02 AM
That's just it. Which supporters? Some of his supporters were/are fervent teocons (tm)*. During the same campaign where he promised to be neutral he also promised not to be neutral (picking Jerusalem as the capital), so like so many other issues (immigration, gay rights, gun control, abortion), he's been all over the map. Who knows what he will do? But we're stuck with him at this point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1SFWU5tXAE

* I'm going to copyright the term "teocon" or "Tea Party neoconservative." I've been using it since Rand first ran for the senate to describe a large segment of the KY electorate that he was playing to which like the idea of liberty but also support an Israel first / interventionist foreign policy.

His supporters are just the same old people you'd expect to to support him. The "alt-right" is a myth; it doesn't exist as a movement. It's the various forms of conservatives with some "libertarians", apathetic voters that don't usually vote, and some disenfranchised democrats.

Brian4Liberty
01-03-2017, 12:22 AM
That's just it. Which supporters? Some of his supporters were/are fervent teocons (tm)*.
...
* I'm going to copyright the term "teocon" or "Tea Party neoconservative." I've been using it since Rand first ran for the senate to describe a large segment of the KY electorate that he was playing to which like the idea of liberty but also support an Israel first / interventionist foreign policy.

Most teocons were fervent Never-Trumpers. Erik Erikson, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Red State, etc.


Copyright? 4-1-11. Beat that. ;)


Yep. His complete silence on budget/fiscal issues, and outspoken war-mongering and has moved him from "teocon" to pure neocon...

jmdrake
01-03-2017, 09:11 AM
Most teocons were fervent Never-Trumpers. Erik Erikson, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Red State, etc.

I'm talking rank and file voter, not leader. That said Sarah Palin, the "teocon queen" was and is a strong Trump backer. So is Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and to a lesser extent Rush Limbaugh.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?230207-The-Teaocon-queen-strikes-again&highlight=teocon



Copyright? 4-1-11. Beat that. ;)

Actually see the thread above. The term "teocon" was first used at RPF on 2/7/2010. But alas I can't take credit for it either. That honor goes to RATM99.

oyarde
01-03-2017, 09:20 AM
If I recall . even the Hard Rock in Jerusalem went out of business . I got muh T shirt though .

Brian4Liberty
01-03-2017, 12:53 PM
I'm talking rank and file voter, not leader. That said Sarah Palin, the "teocon queen" was and is a strong Trump backer. So is Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and to a lesser extent Rush Limbaugh.

Yeah, rank and file voters are so mixed up they don't know what they are. Trump says "Russia OK, Iran bad" and they yell "hell, yeah". They don't see the obvious similarity, and no amount of explaining will help, until Trump says "Iran OK, Russia bad", at which point they will repeat "hell yeah".

Palin pretty much falls into that category. Even though Bill Kristol brought her in as she could obviously be easily swayed, and had that inherent Israel-first brainwashing, she did not really fall in with the neoconservatives in the long run. She had more paleo in her than most teocons.

Coulter and Limbaugh are pretty much GOP partisans. Hannity to a certain extent. I would not call them teocons because they were never Tea Party. They just jumped on board while the gravy train was rolling, and jumping to Trump makes perfect sense. It was the next train.

Ingraham is paleocon, so Trump was the closet thing she could find. She helped Dave Brat take out Cantor. She has also been the biggest and most consistent supporter of Rand among the political talking heads.

Mark Levin and Glenn Beck are the measuring sticks for teocons, and they were hardcore never-Trumpers.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?230207-The-Teaocon-queen-strikes-again&highlight=teocon

Actually see the thread above. The term "teocon" was first used at RPF on 2/7/2010. But alas I can't take credit for it either. That honor goes to RATM99.

RATM99 it is! Unless someone can claim an earlier post. ;)

CPUd
01-03-2017, 02:07 PM
Also the Falwells at Liberty University, whose students turned out in droves to see their future POTUS:

https://i.imgur.com/TDJREx4.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EIgHsGZAmk

enhanced_deficit
01-03-2017, 05:47 PM
Also the Falwells at Liberty University, whose students turned out in droves to see their future POTUS:

https://i.imgur.com/TDJREx4.png


What amazing synergy they displayed.
No wonder they got along so well despite coming from two very different worlds.. apparently both saw DGP as a major threat to US:



Falwell Jr. Quotes Dad: Threats Facing U.S. Obama, Osama and Chelsea's Mama

Jerry Falwell Jr. Speaks at the Republican National Convention, quoting his late father.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/jerry-falwell-jr-quotes-dad-on-threats-facing-nation-obama-osama-and-chelsea-s-mama-729950275948


http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/502d3a4769bedd2b48000003/donald-trump-tweet.png

CPUd
01-03-2017, 08:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-upuzO_lteo

CPUd
03-05-2017, 01:15 PM
'Trump will keep his promise to move embassy to Jerusalem'

Delegation from US Congress visits Israel to examine issue of relocating embassy to Jerusalem.
Contact Editor Eliran Aharon, 05/03/17 18:47 | updated: 19:13


A congressional delegation sent to Israel to examine the issue of relocating the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem arrived this weekend for a fact-finding mission to assess the practical and political implications of the move.

Chairman of the House Subcommittee on National Security Ron DeSantis (R-Florida), a member of the delegation, told reporters at a press conference Sunday evening that President Trump intends to stand by his campaign pledge to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Israel’s capital, Jerusalem. Israeli journalists have been writing articles doubting Trump's intentions since the inauguration.

According to DeSantis, Trump’s inauguration and the selection of Ambassador-Designate to Israel David Friedman were exciting moments following eight years under President Obama, during which relations between Israel and the White House were “not simple.”

“The American people are excited to see the embassy move from Jerusalem after fifty years,” said DeSantis, referencing the 50th anniversary of the liberation of the Old City of Jerusalem during the 1967 Six Day War.

Contrary to media reports that the Israeli government and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu had asked the White House to hold off on the proposed embassy relocation, Rep. DeSantis said Israel’s leadership was unified in its support of the move.

“I also met with Netanyahu and everyone [in the government] was in favor. Maybe Netanyahu is waiting for the confirmation of the new ambassador. In my opinion, [the delay in the relocation] is a logistical problem.”

Regarding speculation by opponents of the embassy move that the relocation could increase tensions in the region, DeSantis said the threats seemed overblown.

“I can’t know what will be in the future. I do know that there are advantages to moving the embassy, and one of them is honesty. We have to be honest that Jerusalem is the capital [of Israel]. There is no real argument about that at all. America stands behind its ally, Israel. Just as we condemned the UN [Security Council] resolution, we stand by our friend’s side.”

DeSantis added that by relocating its embassy, the US would likely cause other countries to do the same.

“I don’t know how many countries will take this step, but if the US does this, we will see more countries joining.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/226139

fr33
03-06-2017, 12:54 AM
CPUd were you this asshurt when Ron Paul wanted to do this same thing?

CPUd
03-06-2017, 12:58 AM
CPUd were you this asshurt when Ron Paul wanted to do this same thing?

no, I've never been "asshurt"

fr33
03-06-2017, 01:09 AM
no, I've never been "asshurt"

OK but most people here supported Ron Paul unlike you. Ron Paul supported moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

CPUd
03-06-2017, 01:14 AM
OK but most people here supported Ron Paul unlike you. Ron Paul supported moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

I support Ron Paul as well. And I am sure Ron would not declare himself Israel's BFF like your man Donald, and he damn sure would not be in favor of financing their occupation. Also, Ron knows WTF he is talking about, while:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmfseeZt5fA

Ender
03-06-2017, 06:15 AM
OK but most people here supported Ron Paul unlike you. Ron Paul supported moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

I haven't seen many Ron Paul supporters of late.

Ron gave Trump a D- F in freedom, on his latest speech, but most here totally ignored that, don't care, and continue to call names and give insults to those who are in any way suspicious of Trump.

That's not a personal remark about you, BTW- JMHPOV.

JK/SEA
03-06-2017, 11:35 AM
I'm talking rank and file voter, not leader. That said Sarah Palin, the "teocon queen" was and is a strong Trump backer. So is Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, Sean Hannity, and to a lesser extent Rush Limbaugh.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?230207-The-Teaocon-queen-strikes-again&highlight=teocon




Actually see the thread above. The term "teocon" was first used at RPF on 2/7/2010. But alas I can't take credit for it either. That honor goes to RATM99.


wrong.

see post #10

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?230207-The-Teaocon-queen-strikes-again

also...http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Teaocon

undergroundrr
03-23-2017, 12:53 PM
Confirmed.

enhanced_deficit
03-23-2017, 01:29 PM
Confirmed.

Did Ivanka Trump made this happen so quickly after moving to West Wing?

It is not going to be simple.

Trump invites Palestinian President who was snubbed by Obama to the White House (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508498-Trump-invites-Palestinian-President-who-was-snubbed-by-Obama-to-the-White-House&)