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12-13-2016, 02:26 PM
US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims

Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity

Allegations of Hacking Election Are Baseless …

we draw on decades of senior-level experience – with emphasis on cyber-intelligence and security – to cut through uninformed, largely partisan fog. Far from hiding behind anonymity, we are proud to speak out with the hope of gaining an audience appropriate to what we merit …

We have gone through the various claims about hacking. For us, it is child’s play to dismiss them. The email disclosures in question are the result of a leak, not a hack. … All signs point to leaking, not hacking. If hacking were involved, the National Security Agency would know it – and know both sender and recipient. …

Thanks largely to the material released by Edward Snowden, we can provide a full picture of NSA’s extensive domestic data-collection network including Upstream programs like Fairview, Stormbrew and Blarney. These include at least 30 companies in the U.S. operating the fiber networks that carry the Public Switched Telephone Network as well as the World Wide Web. This gives NSA unparalleled access to data flowing within the U.S. and data going out to the rest of the world, as well as data transiting the U.S.

In other words, any data that is passed from the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) or of Hillary Rodham Clinton (HRC) – or any other server in the U.S. – is collected by the NSA. These data transfers carry destination addresses in what are called packets, which enable the transfer to be traced and followed through the network. …

all the packets that form a message are assigned an identifying number that enables the receiving end to collect them for reassembly. Moreover, each packet carries the originator and ultimate receiver Internet protocol number (either IPV4 or IPV6) that enables the network to route data. When email packets leave the U.S., the other “Five Eyes” countries (the U.K., Canada, Australia, and New Zealand) and the seven or eight additional countries participating with the U.S. in bulk-collection of everything on the planet would also have a record of where those email packets went after leaving the U.S.

These collection resources are extensive [see attached NSA slides 1, 2, 3, 4, 5]; they include hundreds of trace route programs that trace the path of packets going across the network and tens of thousands of hardware and software implants in switches and servers that manage the network. Any emails being extracted from one server going to another would be, at least in part, recognizable and traceable by all these resources.

The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network. … in the end sender and recipient can be traced across the network.

we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.

The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC. …

the reality is that CIA is almost totally dependent on NSA for ground truth in the communications arena. Thus, it remains something of a mystery why the media is being fed strange stories about hacking that have no basis in fact. …

For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)
Mike Gravel, former Adjutant, top secret control officer, Communications Intelligence Service; special agent of the Counter Intelligence Corps and former United States Senator
Larry Johnson, former CIA Intelligence Officer & former State Department Counter-Terrorism Official
Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.)
Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.)
Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA (ret.)

12-13-2016, 07:39 PM
Lame Duck Obama Pits US Intelligence Community Vs. President-Elect

President Barack Obama has ordered US spy agencies to prepare “a full review” of alleged Russian hacking related to the 2016 presidential race and malicious cyber activity related to US elections going back to 2008. He will study the report and consider a “proportional” response …
The paper is not to be made public. …

Experts in the field believe (https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/the-dnc-breach-and-the-hijacking-of-common-sense-20e89dacfc2b#.tm3rasuvz) the accusations against Moscow are groundless. Jeffrey Carr, the founder and CEO of Taia Global. Inc., and the author of Inside Cyber Warfare, says (https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/the-dnc-breach-and-the-hijacking-of-common-sense-20e89dacfc2b) nothing confirms Russia had any relation to the hacking efforts. …

William Binney, the NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, also questioned (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/08/nsa-whistleblower-nsa-hack-likely-inside-job.html) the allegations of Russia’s involvement. According to him, the probability was that an insider provided the DNC data.

Motherboard magazine cited (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/former-nsa-staffers-rogue-insider-shadow-brokers-theory) its own source saying, “We are 99.9 percent sure that Russia has nothing to do with this and even though all this speculation is more sensational in the media, the insider theory should not be dismissed”. “We think it is the most plausible”, the source noted.

Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder said (http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/julian-assange-no-proof-whatsoever-russians-are-behond-dnc-hack/) that “there is no proof whatsoever” that Russian intelligence sources are responsible for hacking thousands of Democratic National Committee emails.

It should be noted that, the only country with a proven record of conducting cyber-attacks on other nations is the United States itself. American military penetrated Iraqi networks during the 2003 invasion and cooperated with Israel to plant Stuxnet to subvert the operations of Iranian nuclear centrifuges in 2009-2010. …

In 2013, Russia and the US agreed on a package of measures (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/06/17/fact-sheet-us-russian-cooperation-information-and-communications-technol) to boost information security, including information exchange between the computer emergency response teams (CERTs), the use of the existing nuclear hotline to communicate directly in a cyber crisis and the creation of a working group on emerging threats. The process never got off the ground as the US suspended the cooperation over Ukraine.

In 2011, Russia and China submitted a proposal for an international code of conduct for information security (https://ccdcoe.org/sites/default/files/documents/UN-110912-CodeOfConduct_0.pdf) to the United Nations. The document failed (https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2011_11/China_and_Russia_Submit_Cyber_Proposal) to gather sufficient support, with the US leading the opposition. … In its turn, Washington has never launched any international initiative on cyber security. Instead, it openly threatens (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/10/20/us-openly-threatens-russia-with-cyberwar.html) Russia with cyberwar. …

Looks like the outgoing US administration is ready to go to any length to obstruct the expected efforts of Donald Trump to normalize the relations with Russia. It blames Moscow for everything that goes wrong (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/09/05/us-russia-blamed-each-every-thing-that-goes-wrong.html). It is in a hurry to take every step (http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/10/obama-decides-arm-syrian-militants-plunging-us-unwinnable-war.html) possible to prevent the improvement of bilateral relations. Evidently, the review ordered by President Obama is nothing else but an attempt to pit the intelligence community against Donald Trump. The outgoing administration is sticking to old methods of making sensational accusations to hit headlines without producing supporting evidence …

12-14-2016, 12:47 AM
General Flynn has also called current XYZ political arm of Obama among other things.

12-14-2016, 12:57 AM
The leaker got a few bullets in his back walking home in D.C.

12-14-2016, 01:08 AM
I was expecting CPUd to post this. :rolleyes:

12-14-2016, 01:10 AM
I was expecting CPUd to post this. :rolleyes: