Rex Tillerson Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sources

[jct74]

Rex Tillerson of Exxon Mobil Expected to Be Named Trump's Secretary of State: Sources

by ANDREA MITCHELL
DEC 10 2016

Donald Trump is expected to nominate Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson as his secretary of state, two sources close to the transition process told NBC News on Saturday.

Tillerson, 64, became president of the Texas-based oil company in 2004 and has a close business relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin. He has spent his entire career at the company now known as Exxon Mobil.

The sources cautioned that nothing is final until the president-elect officially announces it, likely next week.

Tillerson met Saturday with Trump at Trump Tower in New York, the president-elect's spokesperson confirmed.

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Tillerson will be paired with former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as his deputy secretary of state for day-to-day management of the department, one source added.

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read more:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rex-tillerson-exxon-mobil-expected-be-named-trump-s-secretary-n694371

[dirtdigger]

Rex Tillerson is a Globalist with connections to Centre for Strategic and International Studies. Check out the Board of Trustees of CSIS.

[CPUd]

#buildTheSwamp

[enhanced_deficit]

If this is conformed, ISIS is done within first week of Trump Presidency.

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-RC047_TILLER_P_20161205214951.jpg

Rex Tillerson received Russia's Order of Friendship award from Putin

[CPUd]

Bomb the shit out of them, take out their families, bring in ExxonMobil, take the oil.

[The Northbreather]

Wow

[undergroundrr]

Well, we'll certainly get along with Russia.

[goldenequity]

Trump picks Exxon CEO Tillerson for secretary of State: report
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/309813-trump-picks-exxon-ceo-tillerson-for-secretary-of-state-report

[enhanced_deficit]

Bomb the $#@! out of them, take out their families..

Are you opposed to that?

If so, have you ever criticized DGP for doing exactly that?

Or you only criticize rhetoric but give a pass on actions?


http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2015/01/27/did_obama_s_drone_war_help_cause_yemen_s_collapse/456058301-yemeni-boy-walks-past-a-mural-depicting-a-us-drone-and.jpg.CROP.cq5dam_web_1280_1280_jpeg.jpg

https://ninetyninepercentboston.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/problem.jpg



Obama's War Crimes: The U.S. Drone War (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391485-Obama-s-War-Crimes-The-U-S-Drone-War&)

Reporter Asks White House if US Airstrike that killed 11 children is ‘Terrorism’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?411985-Reporter-Asks-White-House-if-US-Airstrike-that-killed-11-children-is-%E2%80%98Terrorism%E2%80%99&)

While You Were Debating Obama’s ‘Selfie,’ U.S. Drones Killed 13+ Yemen Wedding Guests (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?436307-While-You-Were-Debating-Obama%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98Selfie-%E2%80%99-U-S-Drones-Killed-13-Yemen-Wedding-Guests&)

[Jamesiv1]

wow.

Clinton and Company: "The Russians are spawns of Satan and destroying our elections!!"

Trump: picks a Sec of State that is BFF's with Putin

brilliant.

That is 3D chess, my friends.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/807664650766708736

[enhanced_deficit]

wow.

Clinton and Company: "The Russians are spawns of Satan and destroying our elections!!"

Trump: picks a Sec of State that is BFF's with Putin

brilliant.

That is 3D chess, my friends.


Won't be surprised if this "anti-Russian" escalation by Obama helped nudge the final decision on SoS pick.

Obama questions the integrity of elections (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505168-Obama-questions-the-integrity-of-elections&)



Being "anti-Obama/anti-ISIS" continues to be a persistent theme with Trump.

Reminded me of this news from election cycle:


Trump seems to be mostly getting a pass on this. He allegedly said he hopes Putin will like him few minutes after claiming that Putin had referred to Obama with n-word.

Trump implies Putin called Obama the N-word

By Caitlin Yilek
Donald Trump on Wednesday implied that Russian President Vladimir Putin has used the N-word when talking about President Obama and said he would command more respect as president.
“Putin has said things over the last year that are really bad things,” Trump said at a press conference in Florida. “He mentioned the N-word one time. I was shocked to hear him mention the N-word.” Trump said Putin has “a total lack of respect” for Obama.
“No. 1, he doesn’t like him. And No. 2, he doesn’t respect him,” the billionaire said.
Trump then asserted that Putin would have more respect for him if he succeeds Obama in the White House.
“I think he’s going to respect your president if I’m elected, and I hope he likes me,” he said.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-talking-about (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289470-trump-implies-putin-used-the-n-word-when-talking-about)


Only a few voices spoke out against that, NBC news OpEd refuted such a notion forcefully:

Jul 28 2016
OpEd: President Obama Is Nobody's N-Word
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/o...rump-s-n618961

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/PaulBlu/status/807652166068412416

[AZJoe]

807664650766708736
https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/807664650766708736

Awesome! Like to see lots more friendship between our nations.

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/AlbertBrooks/status/807668379796602882

[AZJoe]

807652166068412416
https://twitter.com/PaulBlu/status/807652166068412416

Hopefully we see the idiotic sanctions ended quickly so we can resume honest trade again.

[Origanalist]

Awesome! Like to see lots more friendship between our nations.

You must be one of those Russian operatives spreading fake news.

[Jamesiv1]

Won't be surprised if this "anti-Russian" development helped nudge the final decision.

Obama questions the integrity of elections (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505168-Obama-questions-the-integrity-of-elections&)
yep. I agree.

Watching Trump repeatedly kick Obama in the balls is the new Pokemon Go.

[CPUd]

I doubt this guy gets confirmed. That opens the door to put up John Bolton, who Rand will fight against confirmation. Then Mitt, who would easily get confirmed.

[seapilot]

This means no more war drum beating about Russia, Syria war is going to be finished soon. Possible end of NATO. This could also mean Iran is off the plate (allies with Russia) but Turkey is going to have trouble.

[seapilot]

I doubt this guy gets confirmed. That opens the door to put up John Bolton, who Rand will fight against confirmation. Then Mitt, who would easily get confirmed.

I think Bolton is part of the deal to appease the neo cons to confirm this guy. Bolton does not like Russia. Except for hating the UN Bolton is toxic. Unfortunately there are enough neocons still in Congress that wont go along with a non interventionist SOS without insurance. Republican party is still infected with them.

[Jamesiv1]

Clinton and Co. be like


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWWRbn4zG0

[anaconda]

The business of America is business?

http://www.historycentral.com/Bio/presidents/coolidge.html

[enhanced_deficit]

I doubt this guy gets confirmed. That opens the door to put up John Bolton, who Rand will fight against confirmation. Then Mitt, who would easily get confirmed.

SWC Hillary or McCain would have even faster sailing than Mitt.
His confirmation chances are higher or lower than lection chances you had predicted for Trump?



Also, are you unable to defend your own statements or just shy in discussions?


Are you opposed to that?

If so, have you ever criticized DGP for doing exactly that?

Or you only criticize rhetoric but give a pass on actions?

[CPUd]

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https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/807685771150888960

[Krugminator2]

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Kasparov is a huge neocon.

Truthfully, this seems like a really good pick unless Trump matches it with putting Bolton as deputy SOS.

[goldenequity]

Putin gave Tillerman a medal. Tillerman is against sanctions. Trump chooses him for SoS.
Russia bashing community is apoplectic. Neocons are gnashing their teeth.
Looks like a great pick if you want to to undo decades of domestic and foreign treachery.
Fuck em. Hang em. Let them all POP from collective aneurisms. McCain. Lindsay. Romney. Nuland... OUT. OUT. OUT. Just go AWAY.
That goes for the traitors in Langley too. Drain the CIA.

[nikcers]

Kasparov is a huge neocon.

Truthfully, this seems like a really good pick unless Trump matches it with putting Bolton as deputy SOS.

Our foreign policy for Russia has been containment and manipulating the price of oil so in order to quell Russia's fears that we will continue our oil crusades is by putting this guy as secretary of state while Trump campaigned on taking the oil in the middle east? This was a fuck you to Russia, if anything. paired with former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton hahahaha

[Krugminator2]

Our foreign policy for Russia has been containment and manipulating the price of oil so in order to quell Russia's fears that we will continue our oil crusades is by putting this guy as secretary of state while Trump campaigned on taking the oil in the middle east? This was a $#@! you to Russia, if anything. paired with former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton hahahaha

How and why has the US manipulated the price of oil? I think that would be news to the zillion US oil producers that went busto over the last 2 years.

[CPUd]

Russia ties complicate Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson's prospects for secretary of state gig

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Irving-based Exxon, with operations in 50 countries and on six continents, is the largest company with headquarters in Texas, and the eighth largest in the world by revenue. Tillerson joined the company as an engineer in 1975 after graduating from the University of Texas, and he's led the company since 2006.

Tillerson faces mandatory retirement when he turns 65 in March.

He reportedly owns $151 million worth of Exxon shares. Ethics laws likely would force him to sell to avoid conflicts of interest. But like other wealthy cabinet picks, he would enjoy a huge windfall because of an obscure law that eliminates the tax bite when federal appointees are forced to divest holdings.

Trump's election could lead to a dramatic pivot in U.S.-Russian relations, which soured after Russia annexed Ukraine's Crimea region in 2014. U.S. intelligence officials blame Russia for hacking into Democratic Party emails to interfere with the presidential election.

Few Americans are closer with Putin than Tillerson, who has long represented Exxon's interests in Russia.

"He has had more interactive time with Vladimir Putin than probably any other American with the exception of Henry Kissinger," John Hamre, a deputy defense secretary during the Clinton administration and president of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank where Tillerson is a board member, told the Wall St. Journal.

In 2011 Exxon beat out BP and other competitors in a historic deal giving it access to Arctic and other deposits in Russia, while allowing state-owned Rosneft its first-ever access to energy projects in the United States. The next year, "the Kremlin bestowed the country's Order of Friendship decoration" on Tillerson, the Journal reported.

But as Bloomberg recounted, "shortly after the venture discovered a billion-barrel crude field in the Kara Sea, the U.S. and European Union imposed sanctions" after Russia's invasion of Crimea. Lifting those sanctions would hit Exxon's bottom line.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2016/12/06/russia-ties-complicate-exxon-ceo-rex-tillersons-prospects-trump-secretary-state-gig

[Jamesiv1]

Russia ties complicate Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson's prospects for secretary of state gig
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Few Americans are closer with Putin than Tillerson ....
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The Greatness is strong in this one.

[anaconda]

Is mandatory retirement at 65 legal?

[CPUd]

Is mandatory retirement at 65 legal?

It's probably something ExxonMobil put in their executive contracts.

[RonZeplin]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jkySfZbMIPg/TUwWN13WtoI/AAAAAAAABOM/5Gg2diGxd9Q/w1200-h630-p-nu/bolton+%253D+real+life%252C+nuke+lusting+Dr.+Stran gelove+%2521.JPG

[Seraphim]

This is great. I really did not want Romney or Bolton...Tilerson is yet another example of Trump's desire to stop this retardation of poking Russia until war breaks out.

As long as Trump is inaugurated and his government set into motion, WW3 will be averted.

Like him or hate him, Trump seems to be good on the single most important issue of our day. STOPPING WW3.

It doesn't fucking matter if the Fed is ended or not if there's no world for tomorrow.

[euphemia]

It doesn't surprise me that Trump would emphasize negotiation skills. That's what a SoS does.

[Seraphim]

It doesn't surprise me that Trump would emphasize negotiation skills. That's what a SoS does.

Unless it's the Divine Queen (Clinton).

She just dictates, bombs and sleeps through Americans being killed.

[goldenequity]

Enough. Any IDIOT can see the lies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ1otTWtdQQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpaNP9SXJo

I don't care if it's someone w/ down syndrome & a box of crayons.

[nikcers]

How and why has the US manipulated the price of oil? I think that would be news to the zillion US oil producers that went busto over the last 2 years.

You mean the United states significantly increased our monetary supply while toppling oil producing regimes increasing the price of oil making it profitable to produce oil at a loss, while simultaneously putting sanctions on oil producing nations. If you think Russia is in Syria, for any reason besides ISIS selling black market oil then you do not understand Russia's economy.

[Matt Collins]

This guy supports a carbon tax:



http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/company/news-and-updates/speeches/strengthening-global-energy-security

[donnay]

Report: Mitt Romney Fired; Trump Chooses Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State

by Charlie Spiering 10 Dec 2016

President-elect Donald Trump will nominate Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson as his secretary of state, according to two sources close to the transition process speaking to NBC’s Andrea Mitchell. The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to the report.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday that Tillerson was leading the field after former Mayor Rudy Giuliani took his name out of the running for the job. New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman reported that Tillerson was expected to meet with Trump today.

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/12/10/report-mitt-romney-fired-exxon-ceo-rex-tillerson-secretary-state/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+breitbart+%28Breitbart+News%2 9

[juleswin]

Fired? was he ever the SoS? Never mind, I now see who wrote the headline.

[nikcers]

Fired? was he ever the SoS? Never mind, I now see who wrote the headline.

well we have to all collectly forget that Trump Ran for president because he was against the Iran deal that was causing oil companies to fold, he was against leaving Iraq because it let ISIS sell black market oil, and he was against Ron Paul because he doesn't even think in terms of Israel. So its easier to pretend like Trump campaigned on firing the politicians that he is working for.

[Jamesiv1]

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[francisco]

Tillerson will be paired with former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as his deputy secretary of state for day-to-day management of the department, one source added.


If true, yuck

Is the deputy subject to Senate confirmation?

[francisco]

....Is the deputy subject to Senate confirmation?

Answering my own question: According to Wikipedia, Yes.

For sure, Rand would oppose a nomination of Bolton as Deputy SoS

Standing by with popcorn.

[Krugminator2]

You mean the United states significantly increased our monetary supply while toppling oil producing regimes increasing the price of oil making it profitable to produce oil at a loss, while simultaneously putting sanctions on oil producing nations. If you think Russia is in Syria, for any reason besides ISIS selling black market oil then you do not understand Russia's economy.

Oil is down over 50% from where it traded for most of 2012-2014. http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=w1

Just about every medium sized US oil producer that didn't have huge cash reserves went bankrupt or is on the verge of bankruptcy. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/28/oil-bankruptcies-100-down-maybe-100-more-to-go.html

[nikcers]

Oil is down over 50% from where it traded for most of 2012-2014. http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CL&p=w1

Just about every medium sized US oil producer that didn't have huge cash reserves went bankrupt or is on the verge of bankruptcy. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/28/oil-bankruptcies-100-down-maybe-100-more-to-go.html
It's almost like we removed sanctions from a country with one of the largest oil producers/fields in the world. You know the Iran deal that Trump vows to tear up?

[Krugminator2]

It's almost like we removed sanctions from a country with one of the largest oil producers/fields in the world. You know the Iran deal that Trump vows to tear up?

The Iran Sanctions were lifted this year. The price of oil started falling in 2014.

[nikcers]

The Iran Sanctions were lifted this year. The price of oil started falling in 2014.
In April alone 11 companies filed bankrupt, the Iran deal was set up years ago, everything else was theatre that the Obama administration admitted to because they said they didn't feel they could make a deal otherwise. In 2011 when Ron Paul was running for president that was one of the things Trump criticized him on, was his willingness to go along to get along with Iran.


[T]he most meaningful part of the negotiations with Iran had begun in mid-2012, many months before Rouhani and the “moderate” camp were chosen in an election among candidates handpicked by Iran’s supreme leader

[CPUd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMWkIgLMe8U


As America's biggest private corporation, ExxonMobil has economic power and political clout exceeding that of many countries. Yet its corporate culture of secrecy and discipline makes it a mystery to most of us

[AZJoe]

Putin gave Tillerman a medal. Tillerman is against sanctions. Trump chooses him for SoS.
Russia bashing community is apoplectic. Neocons are gnashing their teeth.
Looks like a great pick if you want to to undo decades of domestic and foreign treachery.
$#@! em. Hang em. Let them all POP from collective aneurisms. McCain. Lindsay. Romney. Nuland... OUT. OUT. OUT. Just go AWAY.
That goes for the traitors in Langley too. Drain the CIA.


Yes, in relative terms this is a great pick. I would have preferred Dana Rohrabacher or long shot Tulsi Gabbard, but this pick is good. It is far better than the other names floated (Bolton, Guiliani, Petraeus, Romney, etc.)
And of course it is many many miles above the Obama predecessors Kerry and the hideous psycho warmonger Hitlary Clinton.

[Anti Federalist]

Awesome! Like to see lots more friendship between our nations.

Agreed. I've always been of the mind that there need not be all the animosity.

[nikcers]

Yes, in relative terms this is a great pick. I would have preferred Dana Rohrabacher or long shot Tulsi Gabbard, but this pick is good. It is far better than the other names floated (Bolton, Guiliani, Petraeus, Romney, etc.)
And of course it is many many miles above the Obama predecessors Kerry and the hideous psycho warmonger Hitlary Clinton. You can't include Bolton in the list because they are trying to shoe horn Bolton in. This pick basically is Bolton LOL


former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as his deputy secretary of state for day-to-day management of the department, one source added.

[enhanced_deficit]

Report: Mitt Romney Fired; Trump Chooses Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State
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At least he a got free torture dinner and publicity.

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/55/25/36/11884473/3/1024x1024.jpg


Romney knocks Trump over Putin support
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing.../263711-romney-knocks-trump-over-putin-support
Dec 18, 2015 - Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Friday slammed Russian President Vladimir Putin with who GOP presidential ...

[nikcers]

At least he a got free torture dinner and publicity.

Romney knocks Trump over Putin support
thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing.../263711-romney-knocks-trump-over-putin-support
Dec 18, 2015 - Former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Friday slammed Russian President Vladimir Putin with who GOP presidential ...


Trump to choose Ronna Romney McDaniel to lead RNC (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiYk8rvouvQAhVR9GMKHflhDxUQqUMIGjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fcampaign %2F309734-trump-to-select-michigan-party-chair-and-romneys-niece-to-lead-rnc&usg=AFQjCNEYaAmI2GFcg2ahA422TraUhCfBBg&bvm=bv.141320020,d.cGc)

Movingthegoalpostsagain?

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump to choose Ronna Romney McDaniel to lead RNC
Movingthegoalpostsagain?

By such a relational logic, if Trump picked Obama's brother Malik Obama as ambassador to Kenya... will the goal posts be getting moved?

[nikcers]

By such a relational logic, if Trump picked Obama's brother Malik Obama as ambassador to Kenya... will the goal posts be getting moved? I would hope so, how many millions of Americans and he picks DGP''s brother?

[Seraphim]

This guy supports a carbon tax:



http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/company/news-and-updates/speeches/strengthening-global-energy-security

It's not going to happen with Trump.

Also, this is a CLEAR sign to the world that the US is moving away from OPEC - who's most notable member is Saudi Arabia.

Good riddance. The Saudi's fund and create roughly 95% of the worlds terrorism, including ISIS/ISIL.

The Saudi's are the single greatest enemy of the middle east and especially Shia countries. Look at a map, Iraq and Syria are to the direct North of the Saudi Arabian peninsula.

ISIS/ISIL is a direct land/power grab by the Saudi's to expand their territory. Largely funded by US foreign aid.

I expect that aid to dry up under Trump. He's not a moron, he knows full well that the Saudi/Clinton/Bush dynasties have DIRECTLY created ISIS to push the Aravian peninsula's borders Northward while simultaneous knocking out a bloc of countries establishing a modern Silk Road with China and up into Europe.

It seems Trump is flashing signals that his foreign policy will be to reduce ties with China and the Saudi's while increasing legitimate trade negotiations with the Russians and Japanese.

This would be INCREDIBLY bullish for the world over the course of the next 50 years.

Putin/Trump can ABSOLUTELY fight the New World Order as a tandem, avoid all out WW3 and combine to promote peace.

Trumps stated policies and his overall cabinet hires signal that this is absolutely his intention. I fear for his life. TPTB ARE COMING FOR HIM.

Remember the hit on Reagan? Reagan was Trump light in terms of attempting to restore free(er) markets, lower taxes and sane foreign policy.

Putin has been 6D-chessing the shit out of Obama, Europe and the NWO pushers for a while now. He's been the primary adversary to the NWO and Trump now steps into this arena as (what appears) to be a serious threat to the NWO. Now he has added a Sec. of State that is well liked by the Russians and is intimately connected to the oil market and the global oil trade. Putin/Trump are going to STOMP on ISIS, TOGETHER.

If Trump pulls through with the job that is required of him he will get 8 years, will essentially secure Republican dominance for 20 years and the next president will likely emerge as a Rand Paul type.

If you think Tillerson over Romney/Bolton isn't a swamp draining move, I don't think you're paying attention.

I know I went on a bit of a rant but I highly doubt there will be a carbon tax enacted by Trump. My point really is to please try and see the forest through the trees.

[enhanced_deficit]

I would hope so, how many millions of Americans and he picks DGP''s brother?

But seriously, he may have couple of special qualifications.

He wears MAGA hat and Trump tends to reward loyalty. And Malik Obama seems to have a filter, generally considered a good quality for a diplomat.

http://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Dank_608fc7_6063696.jpg

[nikcers]

https://youtu.be/VMWkIgLMe8U?t=49m13s Nice vid I watched it twice, that last part is pertinent though basically 49 minutes on.

[nikcers]

It's not going to happen with Trump.

Also, this is a CLEAR sign to the world that the US is moving away from OPEC - who's most notable member is Saudi Arabia.

Good riddance. The Saudi's fund and create roughly 95% of the worlds terrorism, including ISIS/ISIL.

The Saudi's are the single greatest enemy of the middle east and especially Shia countries. Look at a map, Iraq and Syria are to the direct North of the Saudi Arabian peninsula.

ISIS/ISIL is a direct land/power grab by the Saudi's to expand their territory. Largely funded by US foreign aid.

I expect that aid to dry up under Trump. He's not a moron, he knows full well that the Saudi/Clinton/Bush dynasties have DIRECTLY created ISIS to push the Aravian peninsula's borders Northward while simultaneous knocking out a bloc of countries establishing a modern Silk Road with China and up into Europe.

It seems Trump is flashing signals that his foreign policy will be to reduce ties with China and the Saudi's while increasing legitimate trade negotiations with the Russians and Japanese.

This would be INCREDIBLY bullish for the world over the course of the next 50 years.

Putin/Trump can ABSOLUTELY fight the New World Order as a tandem, avoid all out WW3 and combine to promote peace.

Trumps stated policies and his overall cabinet hires signal that this is absolutely his intention. I fear for his life. TPTB ARE COMING FOR HIM.

Remember the hit on Reagan? Reagan was Trump light in terms of attempting to restore free(er) markets, lower taxes and sane foreign policy.

Putin has been 6D-chessing the $#@! out of Obama, Europe and the NWO pushers for a while now. He's been the primary adversary to the NWO and Trump now steps into this arena as (what appears) to be a serious threat to the NWO. Now he has added a Sec. of State that is well liked by the Russians and is intimately connected to the oil market and the global oil trade. Putin/Trump are going to STOMP on ISIS, TOGETHER.

If Trump pulls through with the job that is required of him he will get 8 years, will essentially secure Republican dominance for 20 years and the next president will likely emerge as a Rand Paul type.

If you think Tillerson over Romney/Bolton isn't a swamp draining move, I don't think you're paying attention.

I know I went on a bit of a rant but I highly doubt there will be a carbon tax enacted by Trump. My point really is to please try and see the forest through the trees.

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6dchess
emphasze that its Tillerson instead of Bolton or Guliani


I know you had time to read that part, you had time to write this wall of text


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[Seraphim]

^^^^

I'm not worried about Bolton there as the 2nd.

Trump won't be bullied by Bolton. Bolton won't be calling the shots. I've heard what Bolton has to say about Iran. He doesn't want to cater to them. I don't think he's ever advocated for smashing Iran to the ground.

I heard his thought on Obama's Iran deal and I mostly agreed with him. Bolton will be there to lend advice about Iran mostly.

I don't like Bolton on some important stuff, but his VOICE doesn't scare me when someone like Trump is his superior.

[enhanced_deficit]

yep. I agree.

Watching Trump repeatedly kick Obama in the balls is the new Pokemon Go.

It's not good for bipartisan unity.
Considering new developments since yesterday, likely going to be a "high energy" transition of power.

[Krugminator2]

Remember the hit on Reagan? Reagan was Trump light in terms of attempting to restore free(er) markets, lower taxes and sane foreign policy.


If you think Tillerson over Romney/Bolton isn't a swamp draining move, I don't think you're paying attention.



I agreed with most of that and I don't see how Tillerson is anything but a huge win. He's probably a better choice than both Corker and Rohrabacher.

As far as Trump being better than Reagan, that is pretty unlikely. The most likely way for it to happen is with an obstructionist Senate. Trump is off to a really bad start with the economic policies he is proposing. That said, I think Trump's cabinet so far is more liberty friendly than Reagan's. It could happen. DeVos, Pruitt, Tillerson would be solid.

[Seraphim]

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

I said that Reagan was Trump-light. I did not give a value judgement.

As for the cabinet, yes I agree Trump's is better then Reagan's (so far). I can give you ONE reason why and it alone outweighs all other mistakes combined (IMHO).

Reagan made the ultimate mistake. He had George H.W. Bush as his VP. I firmly believe that Bush and his ilk were behind Reagan's assassination attempt. Reagan's mistake was allowing his #2 and 1st successor to be TPTB lead man and ex CIA head. One bullet to the head = NWO President steps in.

Reagan mistakenly allowed the head Fox into his hen-house.

So far, Trump has not made that mistake. Mike Pence is just a conservative, long time Indiana Representative.

His other hires have either been independent liberty types or some decent conservative/republicans he feels can salvage some value from the republican establishment (and placing them into positions further to the periphery of the circle of influence).

[Zippyjuan]

Reagan's cabinet had some issues. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals


The presidency of Ronald Reagan in the United States was marked by multiple scandals, resulting in the investigation, indictment, or conviction of over 138 administration officials, the largest number for any U.S. president.

Names and details at link.

[nikcers]

^^^^

I'm not worried about Bolton there as the 2nd.

Trump won't be bullied by Bolton. Bolton won't be calling the shots. I've heard what Bolton has to say about Iran. He doesn't want to cater to them. I don't think he's ever advocated for smashing Iran to the ground.

I heard his thought on Obama's Iran deal and I mostly agreed with him. Bolton will be there to lend advice about Iran mostly.

I don't like Bolton on some important stuff, but his VOICE doesn't scare me when someone like Trump is his superior.

Wow are you being sarcastic? i can't even tell anymore with you guys



To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran By JOHN R. BOLTONMARCH 26, 2015
The United States could do a thorough job of destruction, but Israel alone can do what’s necessary. Such action should be combined with vigorous American support for Iran’s opposition, aimed at regime change in Tehran. Mr. Obama’s fascination with an Iranian nuclear deal always had an air of unreality.

[Seraphim]

Wow are you being sarcastic? i can't even tell anymore with you guys

Yes, I understand that he is a neo-con. I mentioned I have serious contentions with him on key issues.

In the context of that article he's talking about destroying a small but key element of Iran's nuclear program - not wiping Iran out. I disagree with his idea. You failed to mention the overall context of his article.

Nuclear proliferation is not something that can be taken lightly. Obama's admin. has been bending over to Iran and acting like a little bitch. I very much agree with Bolton's assessment in that regard (stated oustide of that article...recently on Fox's OUTNUMBERED and many times prior).

Bolton is too "finger on the trigger" for my liking. But a lot of his ANALYSIS is valid. He CAN serve as a valid critic of other countries and be vocal if he feels Trump is being too soft on a negotiation.

If there's one guy on this planet who won't simply bomb when Bolton yells FIRE, it's Trump. The sky isn't falling. Take a deep breath.

Quite frankly, outside of ISIS, I'm not worried about Trump war mongering like we've seen the past...gosh...4 Presidents.

[nikcers]

Yes, I understand that he is a neo-con. I mentioned I have serious contentions with him on key issues.
In the context of that article he's talking about destroying a small but key element of Iran's nuclear program - not wiping Iran out. I disagree with his idea. You failed to mention the overall context of his article. He is talking regime change in Iran, that didn't wipe out Iraq and Libya did it?

[Seraphim]

He is talking regime change in Iran, that didn't wipe out Iraq and Libya did it?

Iran and Russia are closely tied and Trump wants to avert war and strengthen ties with Putin. Iran is secondary. If Trump and Putin reconnect the 2 Nations Putin can manage Iran if Iran gets a nuke. 4D chess? 6D Chess?

If you get Russia on-board Iran falls in line.

It won't matter if Bolton is barking about regime change in Iran if Trump is moving and shaking with Iran's biggest handler.

[Theocrat]

Bomb the shit out of them, take out their families, bring in ExxonMobil, take the oil.

Rex Tillerson is the instrument of Trump's prophecy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWejiXvd-P8

[CPUd]

807953554048741378
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/807953554048741378

[enhanced_deficit]

^^^^

I'm not worried about Bolton there as the 2nd.

Trump won't be bullied by Bolton. Bolton won't be calling the shots. I've heard what Bolton has to say about Iran. He doesn't want to cater to them. I don't think he's ever advocated for smashing Iran to the ground.

I heard his thought on Obama's Iran deal and I mostly agreed with him. Bolton will be there to lend advice about Iran mostly.

I don't like Bolton on some important stuff, but his VOICE doesn't scare me when someone like Trump is his superior.

Good analysis.

Trump has made so many "good enemies" that a few "bad friends" in positions lacking full control should not be a cause for major concern at this stage. Most important is who will be in the driving seat and making final calls and how actual policies unfold in months/years ahead.

[CPUd]

UPDATE 1-Exxon CEO says Russia deal a model for the rest
Market News | Thu Sep 6, 2012 | 8:37am EDT

* Tillerson first CEO to greet Putin in Vladivostok

* ExxonMobil, Rosneft working in "challenging circumstances"

* To start drilling in Kara Sea 2014-15

By Gleb Bryanski

VLADIVOSTOK, Russia Sept 6 The head of ExxonMobil held up a partnership with Russia's Rosneft as a model for the rest of the world, lending international credibility to President Vladimir Putin at a time when his authoritarian style faces mounting criticism.

ExxonMobil's Rex Tillerson, flanked by Rosneft CEO Igor Sechin, was the first foreign CEO to greet Putin ahead of the Asia-Pacific economic summit held in the sea port of Vladivostok, nine hours by plane east of Moscow.

Putin, while still serving as prime minister before returning to the Kremlin for a third term in May, presided over ExxonMobil's deal to join forces with state-controlled Rosneft to drill for oil in Russia's offshore zones and tap "tight" oil reserves in Siberia.

ExxonMobil and Rosneft unveiled the offshore exploration partnership that could invest up to $500 billion in developing Russia's vast energy reserves in the Arctic and Black seas in New York in April.

Under the deal Exxon and Rosneft will seek to develop three fields in the Arctic with recoverable hydrocarbon reserves estimated at 85 billion barrels in oil-equivalent terms.

"For the world, the political leadership, policy partnerships that have made our relationship possible serve as a model illuminating the path to a better future," Tillerson told Putin during a presentation.

"For Russia this relationship is already bearing fruit in terms of new investment, innovations, new possibilities," Tillerson said.

ExxonMobil's expansion into Russia is taking place amid new uncertainty in relations between the two Cold War foes following Putin's return to the Kremlin and ahead of the U.S. presidential election.

CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES

Putin has also faced growing opposition at home as tens of thousands of people took to the streets of Moscow and other large cities with allegations of ballot fraud after last December's parliamentary election and some investors are worried about signs of a crackdown.

The U.S. government joined European nations in openly criticising Russia for the jail sentences handed to three members of Pussy Riot, a punk band which protested against Putin in a church.

At the same time, Tillerson and other ExxonMobil executives have enjoyed an increasingly cozy relationship with Rosneft and the Kremlin, and mingled with Rosneft executives and Kremlin officials at a fuel storage facility outside Vladivostok's new airport.

He said ExxonMobil and Rosneft will work in "challenging circumstances" seeking to meet the growing global energy demand which he expects to grow by 30 percent by 2040.

Tillerson said seismic studies at the Arctic Kara Sea oil exploration project with Rosneft were ahead of schedule and he expected drilling to commence in 2014-15.

"With this data on the Kara Sea in hand and analysed we expect the drilling of an exploration well in the 2014-15 time frame," he said.

Tillerson said he saw potential for exploration drilling in the Black Sea also in 2014-15. Sechin said he hoped the drilling in the Kara Sea will start in 2014.

Putin, who has repeatedly said that increased trade and closer economic ties were key to improving the broader relationship with the U.S., listened carefully, asking in the end how ExxonMobil would ship oil extracted in the Kara Sea.

"We will undertake a study of a couple of different alternatives, most likely through the north west, through some of the shipping lanes whose current activity is shipping minerals from the mines in the area," Tillerson said.

"It may be piped to the shore, to the terminal," he said, adding a decision would depend on where oil was found.

http://www.reuters.com/article/russia-exxon-idUSL6E8K62JG20120906

[Krugminator2]

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/rex-tillerson-from-a-corporate-oil-sovereign-to-the-state-department


Tillerson once listed his favorite book as “Atlas Shrugged,” Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel that has become a touchstone for libertarians and promoters of unbridled capitalism.

That settles it. He is the best choice for the job

[enhanced_deficit]

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/rex-tillerson-from-a-corporate-oil-sovereign-to-the-state-department



That settles it. He is the best choice for the job

I dunno, he has some pretty big shoes to fill.

http://allnewspipeline.com/images/HITLERYCLINTON.jpeg

Donald Trump: Obama 'the founder of ISIS'; Hillary Clinton co-founder
washingtontimes

[CPUd]

807980505010421760
https://twitter.com/pkcapitol/status/807980505010421760

[nikcers]

Tillerson once listed his favorite book as “Atlas Shrugged,” Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel that has become a touchstone for libertarians and promoters of unbridled capitalism. Are you saying that Rex Tillerson thinks power corrupts? I Dunno if that book meant the same thing to you and me that it means to him. I have a joke for you? What Christmas president do you gift a CEO of basically the richest company in the world that can buy themselves anything they want? You give him a monopoly on force, what's the worst that could happen?

[goldenequity]

This should scare the hell out of you.
The NEW! IMPROVED! John Bolton **shudders uncontrollably**

Breitbart News Daily - John Bolton - December 9, 2016 (https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-john-bolton-december-9-2016)

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/12/09/bolton-geert-wilders-conviction-about-people-trying-to-suppress-speech/

Anybody who listens to this audio... should vomit.
THEY REALLY ARE
pumping Bolton..
said that a Breitbart 'call in' poll was 'overwhelmingly' in favor of Bolton for SoS.

This is not good for my blood pressure.
I feel EXACTLY the same as when I watched the hijack of the teaparty.
Listening to this Breitbart audio was my 'moment'. **a tear rolls down**
Breitbart is just another FOX... a machine w/ an agenda willing to subvert and cover the truth.
The Neocons have done it again.
As far as I'm concerned they're 'fake news'...

I'm done with 'caring' about Trump or 'caring' about the swamp.

C-ya over in GeoPolitics... it's where I belong.
... besides, CPUd said I'd live longer (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505249-Life-Expectancy-Lower-for-Trump-Voters). He's probably right.
Cheers,
G.

[robmpreston]

^^^^

I'm not worried about Bolton there as the 2nd.

Trump won't be bullied by Bolton. Bolton won't be calling the shots. I've heard what Bolton has to say about Iran. He doesn't want to cater to them. I don't think he's ever advocated for smashing Iran to the ground.

I heard his thought on Obama's Iran deal and I mostly agreed with him. Bolton will be there to lend advice about Iran mostly.

I don't like Bolton on some important stuff, but his VOICE doesn't scare me when someone like Trump is his superior.

Some of you are so fucking embarrassing. Who knew RPF had some of the biggest sheeple in the US posting here?

[CPUd]

There aren't enough votes in committee to confirm Bolton. Rand will vote no, and will be very vocal about it.

[Origanalist]

807953554048741378
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/807953554048741378

Thankfully Rand has more sense than quite a few posting on the forum dedicated to his father.

[enhanced_deficit]

Awesome! Like to see lots more friendship between our nations.

Friendship is great. But when a US Prez elect shows greater friendhsip for a foreign leader than towards current historic Prez of US, that ain't right. It is an insult to the historic legacy.

[enhanced_deficit]

807953554048741378
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/807953554048741378

Won't be surprised if Rand became impressed by intelligence of John Bolton after watching this video:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505267-John-Bolton-DNC-hacks-could-be-false-flag-operation&p=6381841&viewfull=1#post6381841

[Origanalist]

Won't be surprised if Rand became impressed by intelligence of John Bolton after watching this video:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505267-John-Bolton-DNC-hacks-could-be-false-flag-operation&p=6381841&viewfull=1#post6381841

Really. Who the hell cares if he's intelligent? The guy practically slobbers at the prospect of war. Give the bastard a rubik's cube and stick him in a fucking rubber room somewhere out of harms way.

[Jamesiv1]

Friendship is great. But when a US Prez elect shows greater friendhsip for a foreign leader than towards current historic Prez of US, that ain't right. It is an insult to the historic legacy.
Who cares about dumbazz Obama. Trash his fake news, failed policy legacy. I would much rather see friendship with Russia.

[FunkBuddha]

Donald Trump is expected to nominate Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson as his secretary of state, two sources close to the transition process told NBC News on Saturday.

Tillerson, 64, became president of the Texas-based oil company in 2004 and has a close business relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin. He has spent his entire career at the company now known as Exxon Mobil.

The sources cautioned that nothing is final until the president-elect officially announces it, likely next week.

Tillerson met Saturday with Trump at Trump Tower in New York, the president-elect's spokesperson confirmed.

...

Tillerson will be paired with former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton as his deputy secretary of state for day-to-day management of the department, one source added.



Fake news.

[goldenequity]

NYT Trump Picks Rex Tillerson, Exxon C.E.O., as Secretary of State (http://archive.is/Fuby3#selection-2011.0-2011.173)

http://archive.is/Fuby3/53e425020617fbdfc455f91456d64598cc8b9cf6.jpg

WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump settled Monday on Rex W. Tillerson,
the chief executive of Exxon Mobil, to be his secretary of state, transition officials said.

=======

You can call him T-Rex or Tilley :)

[Mordan]

So where are all the insulters who kept saying Trump was a Hillary plant? They keep spreading FUD.

*crickets*

[H. E. Panqui]

...i must agree....an embarrassing assortment of republicrats creeping in...

...more fake news...or fakes in the news...or news dominated by fakes....

...same old same old $wampers....

[brandon]

Knowing nothing about this guy other than what I just read in his wikipedia article, I think he's a good pick. Certainly immensely better than the other names that were floated.

[UWDude]

Geeze, the #FAKENEWS didn't even have Tillerson on the Short list for SoS. The shrills here were saying it was going to be Giulliani, Bolton or Romney.

[Brian4Liberty]

Hmm...


As ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson said in a speech before the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington in January 2009:

A carbon tax is also the most efficient means of reflecting the cost of carbon in all economic decisions — from investments made by companies to fuel their requirements to the product choices made by consumers. A carbon tax may be better suited for setting a uniform standard to hold all nations accountable. This last point is important. Given the global nature of the challenge, and the fact that the economic growth in developing economies will account for a significant portion of future greenhouse-gas emission increases, policy options must encourage and support global engagement.
...
https://energyfactor.exxonmobil.com/corporate-citizenship-sustainability/exxonmobil-and-the-carbon-tax/

[Brian4Liberty]

Charlie Rose Talks to ExxonMobil's Rex Tillerson (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-03-07/charlie-rose-talks-to-exxonmobils-rex-tillerson)
ExxonMobil’s CEO discusses the death of Hugo Chávez, the Keystone XL pipeline, and America’s prospects for energy independence
by Charlie Rose - March 7, 2013


First, what impact will Chávez’s death have on Venezuelan oil?
Their constitution calls for them to hold elections within 30 days. Until we see the outcome of that election, it’s going to be hard to tell what the immediate effect will be, and whether his successor will choose to carry on his programs. When he took over, he narrowed the scope of international oil companies, changed the contracts, and invited us to either accept the new contracts or leave the country. I accepted his invitation to leave. We’ve been in and out of Venezuela before, so it’s something that we’ll keep our eye on.

When you think of U.S. policy, the Keystone pipeline comes to mind.
This is a project that’s been four years in the regulatory process, over 100 public meetings. Now a second environmental impact statement has been prepared [saying] there’ll be no measurable harm to the environment. It’s an important example of the regulatory struggles we have in this country. The processes are lengthy and subject to reopening.

Why have environmental groups made Keystone such a priority?
There’s a segment of the environmental groups that’s very concerned about the burning of fossil fuels. In a sort of obtuse way, they took a view that if they could prevent the transport of crude oil from Canada to the U.S., then that would throw an obstacle in the way of future developments. I think they probably misjudged Canada’s resolve.

Where do you stand on a carbon tax?
At some point policymakers will get around to dealing with additional policies around climate in ways to incentivize certain behaviors. There are different models, one of which is cap-and-trade, which Europe has been trying now with not a lot of success. If you’re going to undertake a policy with those characteristics, a carbon tax is much more straightforward. It’s much simpler to administer, and it doesn’t leave itself open to as much gaming.

How much longer do you think we’ll be burning fossil fuels?
When coal came into the picture, it took about 50 or 60 years to displace timber. Then crude oil was found, and it took 60, 70 years, and then natural gas. So it takes 100 years or more for some new breakthrough in energy to become the dominant source. Most people have difficulty coming to grips with the sheer enormity of energy consumption. If we look at our energy outlook, at things like renewable wind, solar, biofuels, we have those sources over the next 30 years growing 700 to 800 percent. But in the year 2040, they’ll supply just 1 percent.

For now, then, is fracking the solution to our energy problems?
I would hate to hang the hat on that alone, but it’s transformational.

When will America become energy independent?
We talk about it as North America, because Canada and the U.S., and even to a lesser extent Mexico, are very integrated. We forecast that in the year 2020, on a net imports basis, we’ll be neutral.

Whether it’s Alaska or offshore or wherever it may be, is your philosophy “Drill, baby, drill!”?
No. My philosophy is to make money. If I can drill and make money, then that’s what I want to do. For us, it’s about making quality investments for our shareholders. And it’s not a quality investment if you can’t manage the risk around it.

How do you evaluate what happened to BP in the Gulf?
There were a number of practices …around the drilling of that well that were not what I would have called industry standard. We would never drill a well the way that well was drilled.

But there were lessons to be learned for everyone?
We studied it very carefully. Why they made the choice they made isn’t clear. But it’s clear that this was avoidable.

What were the lessons to be taken from the Exxon Valdez?
There were many. There was a breakdown in leadership on the ship. There was a breakdown of oversight in the regulator, and the Coast Guard in some respects. There were errors in the response, delays that could have mitigated the impact. That incident … had a huge impact on the company, its reputation, and on its employees elsewhere.

As they say, you can spend a lifetime building a reputation, and you can lose it in a day.
And that certainly happened for Exxon Corp. with the Valdez. All of our people are mindful of that today.
...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-03-07/charlie-rose-talks-to-exxonmobils-rex-tillerson

[CPUd]

Dick Cheney Approved



Cheney cheers Tillerson nomination


Former Vice President Dick Cheney is throwing his support behind President-elect Trump's nomination of Rex Tillerson to serve as secretary of state.

The Cheney endorsement marks the fourth prominent official from the George W. Bush administration to wholeheartedly back Tillerson, a native Texan.

Earlier Tuesday, Bush's Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley cheered Trump's decision to choose the Exxon Mobil CEO.

In praising Tillerson for the post, Cheney said he has known him for many years, considers him a personal friend and predicted he would do a "superb job."

"He has the vast experience, ability and judgment to deal with the very dangerous world we find confronting us," he said. "His extensive knowledge of the global situation will be an asset in representing our nation."

Like Tillerson, Cheney has also led an energy company, having worked as CEO of Halliburton before serving as vice president.

"As the chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil, he has operated in nations all over the world and managed one of our largest corporations," Cheney added. "I'm confident that he will do a superb job promoting our national interests in dealing with the complex and difficult choices that are on the agenda for the next administration."

The glowing testimonies from the Bush administration officials sharply contrast with skepticism from three Republicans in Congress. Sens. John McCain of Arizona, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Marco Rubio of Florida have all said they will sharply scrutinize Tillerson's selection and have expressed early reservations about his close business ties to Russia and its president, Vladimir Putin.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cheney-cheers-tillerson-nomination/article/2609516

[axiomata]

Whether it’s Alaska or offshore or wherever it may be, is your philosophy “Drill, baby, drill!”?
No. My philosophy is to make money

[Brian4Liberty]

Rex Tillerson is a Globalist with connections to Centre for Strategic and International Studies. Check out the Board of Trustees of CSIS.

Yeah, so many people are chasing the Russian Red Herring that other concerns are ignored. Anyone remember "war for oil" as a motivation for US wars in the Middle East? Is that forgotten? Government in bed with big oil? Nothing to see there? Crony corporatism? Globalism? CFR?

No telling how this will turn out, but it does appear that a member of the Plutocracy is standing in where there would usually be a puppet or shill (like Bolton). Perhaps the perspective of being in the spotlight will be different than advocating from the shadows.

[cindy25]

I wonder how much panic there is in Ukraine, and the so called Republic of Georgia.

[Krugminator2]

Yeah, so many people are chasing the Russian Red Herring that other concerns are ignored. Anyone remember "war for oil" as a motivation for US wars in the Middle East? Is that forgotten? Government in bed with big oil? Nothing to see there? Crony corporatism? Globalism? CFR?



Here is the big question: who would be better? Of the people in serious consideration Corker, Rohrabacher, and Tillerson were the three least bad.

I read a book a few years back called The King of Oil about Marc Rich. The hoops that he jumped through to facilitate trade with countries like Iran and Russia seem comparable to what Tillerson has had to do at Exxon. I think someone who can cut deals and negotiate with awful regimes is big positive. He has already said he is for lifting the sanctions against Russia.

[Mordan]

Trump wants to bring jobs back. I think he doesn't care about purism.

He appointed CEOs because he wants results and people who will do the work.

When Purists insulted me when I came back here, do you think that advanced the Purism Agenda?

No. Purists turned me off.

Trump was insulted by nearly everyone. Do you think that advanced YOUR agenda?

No.

[H. E. Panqui]

mordan limbaughs: Trump wants to bring jobs back. I think he doesn't care about purism.

:cool:

...ummm...there are already too many jobs, too much honest work to do in america...look at the housing stock, roads, etc. ad nauseam, in much of america...

...it's not 'jobs' or 'work'--per se-- that people want or even need...it's really MONEY that people want/need...and ?your republicrats are worse than butt ignorant on the topic of 'money'...and i would wager 'bigly' that your skunk trump and his radio republican cheerleaders will offer no honest ideas to fix this HIDEOUS monetary order under which we are all slave$..

[nikcers]

Thankfully Rand has more sense than quite a few posting on the forum dedicated to his father.
I think Chris Mathews said it best. THANK GOD! you're on that committee!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJD5hWt2KTQ

[enhanced_deficit]

There is almost 100% chance that will be a zillion times better SoS than SWC Hillary "bag the money/arm the Syrian Jihadis" Clinton.

[CPUd]

https://i.imgur.com/D2BI8T6.jpg