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enhanced_deficit
12-10-2016, 01:45 AM
Which of these two pieces of Obama legacy will die first: ISIS or Obamacare?

There are claims in news this week about both entering death spirals in the aftermath of Trump election win.


Obamacare is 'entering a death spiral', Paul Ryan says (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505124-Obamacare-is-entering-a-death-spiral-Paul-Ryan-says&)
12-08-2016


'We Are About to Die': The End Comes for Aleppo (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505198-What-explains-ISIS-being-suddenly-getting-wiped-out-of-Syria-within-days-of-Trump-win-news&)
TIME-9 hours ago
Aleppo was Syria's largest city before the war emerged from the uprising that began in 2011. Since 2012 Aleppo has been a key battleground ...


Map Update: Syrian Army captures 85% of east Aleppo, on verge of total military victory
Local Source-AMN Al-Masdar News -Dec 7, 2016

timosman
12-10-2016, 01:47 AM
Tough choice. Do you have anything easier?:D

enhanced_deficit
12-10-2016, 02:01 AM
Tough choice. Do you have anything easier?:D

Sure.

Would "Obamacare repeal/replacement with something "better"" by the new regime be as successful as "AlQaeda repeal/replacement with ISIS" during current regime?

timosman
12-10-2016, 02:02 AM
Sure.

Would "Obamacare repeal/replacement with something "better"" by the new regime be like "AlQaeda repeal/replacement with ISIS" during current regime or not?

Definitely. Why are you asking?

enhanced_deficit
12-10-2016, 02:04 AM
I am just inquisitive.

timosman
12-10-2016, 02:06 AM
I am just inquisitive.

It is pretty simple actually - a clusterfuck after a clusterfuck.

The Gold Standard
12-10-2016, 09:10 AM
Neither

Jamesiv1
12-10-2016, 09:18 AM
Buddy-up with Putin and ISIS would be gone in about 72 hours.

Unraveling Obamacare is going to be a diplomatic, bureaucratic, red-tape nightmare.

Ender
12-10-2016, 09:50 AM
Neither

Beat me to it. ;)

presence
12-10-2016, 10:18 AM
they'll both get rebranded and live on

Superfluous Man
12-10-2016, 10:19 AM
Hard to answer.

Neither will really be gone for a long time. They'll change, and maybe go on to be known by other names.

I suppose Obamacare is more likely actually to die, inasmuch as it can't exist when the federal government goes broke, whereas ISIS theoretically could.

oyarde
12-10-2016, 10:52 AM
Choice #4 should be : Your Personal Freedom . I would have voted for that .

enhanced_deficit
12-10-2016, 12:38 PM
Buddy-up with Putin and ISIS would be gone in about 72 hours.

Unraveling Obamacare is going to be a diplomatic, bureaucratic, red-tape nightmare.

Tend to agree with that.



they'll both get rebranded and live on

Probably but unlikely that ISIS of 2010-16 is going to be anything like what may replace it after its repeal is finsihed during Trump regime.

Sola_Fide
12-10-2016, 02:06 PM
Hard to answer.

Neither will really be gone for a long time. They'll change, and maybe go on to be known by other names.

I suppose Obamacare is more likely actually to die, inasmuch as it can't exist when the federal government goes broke, whereas ISIS theoretically could.

Yes.

They both won't die because they have the Federal government funding them both.

enhanced_deficit
12-10-2016, 09:26 PM
Yes.

They both won't die because they have the Federal government funding them both.

Because of the major development today (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505216-Rex-Tillerson-Expected-to-Be-Named-Trump-s-Secretary-of-State-Sources&p=6380855&viewfull=1#post6380855), it seems that "ISIS" legacy piece get repealed before SWCcare and might not get comparable replacement in foreseeable future.

enhanced_deficit
11-09-2017, 09:34 PM
Although Trump had declared Obama founding father of both ISIS and Obamacare, this may provide clue to the answer to poll question:


Syria declares victory over ISIS following capture of last militant stronghold (http://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/syrian-army-allies-take-last-isis-stronghold-in-syria)
The Straits Times 14h ago

Pauls' Revere
11-09-2017, 10:28 PM
Obama funds ISIS, members of ISIS will qualify under Obamacare. Perpetual motion machine.

nikcers
11-09-2017, 10:30 PM
Obama funds ISIS, members of ISIS will qualify under Obamacare. Perpetual motion machine.

1.Make Americans pay for expensive wars they don't need
2.Fund both sides
3.????
4.Profit


1.Make Americans pay for expensive warsinsurance they don't need
2.Subsidize healthcare and make it more expensive
3.????
4.Profit

oyarde
11-09-2017, 10:38 PM
I voted Other . They will live forever .

r3volution 3.0
11-09-2017, 10:48 PM
Neither will ever die, I'm sorry to say.

As to Obamacare, if Trump does anything at all, which is doubtful, it'll be a minor tweak/renaming for campaigning purposes.

As to the idiot goatherders, there will never be a shortage of people from that part of the world who hate us, provided we keep bombing them.

enhanced_deficit
11-09-2017, 10:57 PM
As to the idiot goatherders, there will never be a shortage of people from that part of the world who hate us, provided we keep bombing them.

To be fair, many goat raising peoples like us, especially if they can come over here.



https://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/obama-sheep.jpg (http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/211680-kenyan-lawyer-offers-30-goats-50-cows-and-70-sheep-to-marry-malia-obama/)

Kenyan lawyer offers Obama cows, sheep, goats to marry Malia
www.nydailynews.com
May 26, 2015 - A Kenyan lawyer plans to offer President Obama 50 cows, 70 sheep and 30 goats for his daughter's hand in marriage.

oyarde
11-09-2017, 11:12 PM
To be fair, many goat raising peoples like us, especially if they can come over here.



https://steynian.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/obama-sheep.jpg (http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/211680-kenyan-lawyer-offers-30-goats-50-cows-and-70-sheep-to-marry-malia-obama/)

Kenyan lawyer offers Obama cows, sheep, goats to marry Malia
www.nydailynews.com
May 26, 2015 - A Kenyan lawyer plans to offer President Obama 50 cows, 70 sheep and 30 goats for his daughter's hand in marriage.

That is way too much wealth to offer for a girl who probably cannot cook , clean , tan hides , sew.......

enhanced_deficit
11-11-2017, 06:25 PM
LOL honorable Ms Michelle would not appreciate such harsh criticism of her upbringing family values.

In related news:

Hamid Karzai: US colluded with ISIL in Afghanistan (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?516719-Hamid-Karzai-US-colluded-with-ISIL-in-Afghanistan&)

Suzanimal
11-11-2017, 07:24 PM
Not enough options.

They are both immortal.

TheCount
11-12-2017, 07:36 AM
As to the idiot goatherders, there will never be a shortage of people from that part of the world who hate us, provided we keep bombing them.If they hate us because we bomb them, and we bomb them because they hate us, obviously the solution is a lot more bombs.