Federal government blocks Dakota Access oil pipeline route

[phill4paul]

Federal government blocks Dakota Access oil pipeline route


CANNON BALL, N.D. (AP) -- U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Sunday that it won't grant an easement for the Dakota Access oil pipeline in southern North Dakota, handing a victory to the Standing Rock Sioux tribe and its supporters, who argued the project would threaten a water source and cultural sites.

North Dakota's leaders criticized the decision, with Gov. Jack Dalrymple calling it a "serious mistake" that "prolongs the dangerous situation" of having several hundred protesters who are camped out on federal land during cold, wintry weather. U.S. Rep. Kevin Cramer saying it's a "very chilling signal" for the future of infrastructure in the United States.

The four-state, $3.8 billion project is largely complete except for the now-blocked segment underneath Lake Oahe, a Missouri River reservoir. Assistant Secretary for Civil Works Jo-Ellen Darcy said in a news release that her decision was based on the need to "explore alternate routes" for the pipeline's crossing.

"Although we have had continuing discussion and exchanges of new information with the Standing Rock Sioux and Dakota Access, it's clear that there's more work to do," Darcy said. "The best way to complete that work responsibly and expeditiously is to explore alternate routes for the pipeline crossing."

The company constructing the pipeline, Dallas-based Energy Transfer Partners, had said it was unwilling to reroute the project. It and the Morton County Sheriff's Office, which has done much of the policing of the protests, didn't have immediate comment.

U.S. Secretary for the Interior Sally Jewell said in a statement that the Corps' "thoughtful approach ... ensures that there will be an in-depth evaluation of alternative routes for the pipeline and a closer look at potential impacts."

Standing Rock Sioux tribal chairman Dave Archambault didn't immediately respond to messages left seeking comment.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/authorities-conditionally-move-bridge-near-protest-132426831.html

[scm]

In two weeks when everyone goes home, construction will continue.

[phill4paul]

In two weeks when everyone goes home, construction will continue.

I'm guessing Jan. 20th.

[BV2]

In two weeks when everyone goes home, construction will continue.

This and thus.

[RonZeplin]

Woot! Obama Trump NWO defeated.

[scm]

Woot! Obama Trump NWO defeated.

Meanwhile, Energy Transfer Partners will now be forced to either find a new route or hope that the Trump administration will reconsider the federal easement required to finish construction.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/us-denies-permit-needed-complete-dakota-access-pipeline

Trump supports completion of Dakota Access Pipeline
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-pipeline-idUSKBN13Q609


I'm guessing Jan. 20th.
Yup. Jan 20-21 constructio will resume. It took me a minute to figure out why you said the 20th

[ChristianAnarchist]

I don't understand what the big deal is. They have plenty of funds to re-route the pipeline around the disputed area. The longer they put off the plans the longer until it's completed...

[Danke]

I don't understand what the big deal is. They have plenty of funds to re-route the pipeline around the disputed area. The longer they put off the plans the longer until it's completed...

Still have to cross the Missouri some place, right?

[ChristianAnarchist]

Still have to cross the Missouri some place, right?

They could even go around Missouri if they had to...

[Danke]

They could even go around Missouri if they had to...

How?

[ChristianAnarchist]

How?

Arkansas or Iowa...

Thousands of miles available out there that I'm sure don't go through a reservation...

[oyarde]

Still have to cross the Missouri some place, right?

I have not seen a map , but would there not already be others crossing the big water somewhere ?

[Danke]

Arkansas or Iowa...

Thousands of miles available out there that I'm sure don't go through a reservation...

From the Bakkens, I am still not seeing that.

[oyarde]

They should never have tried to take that to Standing Rock .

[Danke]

I have not seen a map , but would there not already be others crossing the big water somewhere ?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_River#/media/File%3AMissouririvermap.jpg

[Danke]

They should never have tried to take that to Standing Rock .

Sounds like they were going to supply them with an upgraded water supply:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/scott-gates/on-the-standing-rock-tribes-dakota-pipeline-protest-/10154529600627457?hc_location=ufi

[oyarde]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_River#/media/File%3AMissouririvermap.jpg

Ya , hard to believe there is not an existing pipeline crossing somewhere already between Bismark & St Louis.

[Danke]

Ya , hard to believe there is not an existing pipeline crossing somewhere already between Bismark & St Louis.

It it already at capacity, is it too old, etc.

[kpitcher]

So a company is building a pipeline without having all the paperwork in place? That's stupid of them.

The thing I don't know, is this actually tribal land the feds are were going to use eminent domain for the easement or fully federal land for this section?

[libertyjam]

So a company is building a pipeline without having all the paperwork in place? That's stupid of them.

The thing I don't know, is this actually tribal land the feds are were going to use eminent domain for the easement or fully federal land for this section?

JFC , not again.

[scm]

Sounds like they were going to supply them with an upgraded water supply:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/scott-gates/on-the-standing-rock-tribes-dakota-pipeline-protest-/10154529600627457?hc_location=ufi
That a very well written piece. too well written. Seems more like a team of lawyers wrote that, not just some owner of an entertainment company. I don't know the whole story, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were some missing facts from all that info. I bet scott gates doesn't even exist in real life.

But anyways. Back to your comment. Ever seen this documentary about how companies "help" people by "upgrading" their water systems. I can save you hour and a half right now and tell you that is complete bullshit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_QhOR0Gxw38

[phill4paul]

This is a head fake. Once the protesters leave the line will continue and the company will just pay the fines. This line WILL be built on it's current path according to ETP.


As stated all along, ETP and SXL are fully committed to ensuring that this vital project is brought to completion and fully expect to complete construction of the pipeline without any additional rerouting in and around Lake Oahe. Nothing this Administration has done today changes that in any way.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20161204005090/en/Energy-Transfer-Partners-Sunoco-Logistics-Partners-Respond

[goldenequity]

chip mcdonald ‏@chipmcdonald 7 hod.
Tulsi Gabbard and 2,000 vets arrive at DAPL to support the Sioux.Where was Obama..? #ProgressiveParty2020 not DNC!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRoSExQCkM

Corps spokeswoman Moira Kelley said in a news release Sunday
that the administration will not allow the four-state, $3.8 billion pipeline
to be built under Lake Oahe,
a Missouri River reservoir where construction had been on hold.

Composite: The Army Corps just blocked the route of the Dakota Access Pipeline


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6H1H0I_Scg

FOX: Feds block route of Dakota Access pipeline


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqFGrGUkClY

[ChristianAnarchist]

From the Bakkens, I am still not seeing that.

Don't know where the Bakkens is but it's mighty hard for me to believe that the pipeline can't be re-routed somewhere. If they don't want it going west they can route it north or south and around the offending area. If there's absolutely NO other route (hard to believe) then I guess they could always use tankers and go over the road... (with all the additional issues trucking poses)...

[scm]

As Dakota Celebrates, Trump Advisors Propose Privatizing Oil-Rich Indian Reservations

Having confirmed Trump's support for the pipeline (not to do with his investments), Reuters reports a Trump advisory group proposes the politically explosive idea of putting oil-rich Indian reservation lands into private ownership.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-05/dakota-celebrates-trump-advisors-propose-privatizing-oil-rich-indian-reservations

[enhanced_deficit]

As Dakota Celebrates, Trump Advisors Propose Privatizing Oil-Rich Indian Reservations

Having confirmed Trump's support for the pipeline (not to do with his investments), Reuters reports a Trump advisory group proposes the politically explosive idea of putting oil-rich Indian reservation lands into private ownership.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-05/dakota-celebrates-trump-advisors-propose-privatizing-oil-rich-indian-reservations


Timing is interesting so close to transition of power, could this be Obama administration's revenge for Trump insulting Obama by inviting foreign leader who had cursed at Obama?

[scm]

Timing is interesting so close to transition of power, could this be Obama administration's revenge for Trump insulting Obama by inviting foreign leader who had cursed at Obama?
Nah. Just a delay for the inevitable.

[Jan2017]

In two weeks when everyone goes home, construction will continue.


Still have to cross the Missouri some place, right?

90% of the pipeline is completed with 99% of the Dakota portion done.

EPA will do a review and decide that is gonna be the best location as there are already electrical/power grid and natural gas at that locatio0n (?)

Pipeline is getting close to the Des Moines River now and construction moves on in Iowa, although the group fighting it has an Iowa court hearing today I believe.

[angelatc]

I don't understand what the big deal is. They have plenty of funds to re-route the pipeline around the disputed area. The longer they put off the plans the longer until it's completed...

You don't understand cost efficiency? Why should they spend 10 billion to accomplish the same thing 10 million will? That's the very definition of malinvestment.

[phill4paul]

You don't understand cost efficiency? Why should they spend 10 billion to accomplish the same thing 10 million will? That's the very definition of malinvestment.

They're not going to. If anything they will just continue on and then pay whatever fines are levied by the Corps for not conducting an full Environmental Impact statement.