Who is more dishonest, "Fakenews media" or MSM (NYT,WaPo,CNN etc)

[enhanced_deficit]

Who do you find more dishonest, so called "Fakenews media" or MSM (NYT,WaPo,CNN etc)

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[Danke]

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/revealed-the-real-fake-news-list

[enhanced_deficit]

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/revealed-the-real-fake-news-list

I voted before your post, so looks like my guess was right.

[AZJoe]

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[KEEF]

Voted "I don't know," because I know I cannot trust the MSM, but at that same time I am leery about everything I read from other sources because of my experience gained and lessons learned from being burned by the MSM.

New option please, "I trust the Fakenews Media more."

[AZJoe]

Sampling of “Facts” reported or parroted by Mainstream Media that were lies (but we need MSM partnered with government to protect us from "fake news"):

1) George W. Bush’s Weapons of Mass Destruction . First arbitrarily designating Afghanistan as its primary victim due to the supposed identities of the attackers, Bush then chose Iraq to feel the wrath following dubious claims Saddam Hussein harbored destructive chemical and biological weapons and was actively seeking far stronger munitions.
2) Gulf of Tonkin Incident Often, the American mainstream media becomes a de facto government employee, taking the claims of U.S. officials and reporting them as proven fact. On August 5, 1964, the New York Times reported (http://fair.org/media-beat-column/30-year-anniversary-tonkin-gulf-lie-launched-vietnam-war/). Additional outlets, such as the Washington Post, echoed this claim. But it wasn’t true. At all. In fact, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, as it became known, turned out to be a fictitious creation courtesy of the government (http://www.nytimes.com/1964/08/06/transcript-of-mcnamaras-news-conference.html) to escalate war in Vietnam — leading to the deaths of tens of thousands of U.S. troops and millions of Vietnamese.
3) Suppression of brutality perpetrated in Bahrain during the Arab Spring CNN sent reporter Amber Lyon and a crew to U.S. ally Bahrain for a documentary, but what they encountered instead bore the hallmarks of a repressive and violent regime, and its attempt to filter and censor the truth. Lyon and the other CNN reporters went to great lengths to speak with sources participating in the massive uprising — one the Bahraini government wished to quash at all costs.Even the CNN crew experienced the wrath of the regime, upon showing up to interview one source, “‘20 heavily-armed men’, whose faces were ‘covered with black ski masks’, ‘jumped from military vehicles’, and then ‘pointed machine guns at’ the journalists, forcing them to the ground. The regime’s security forces seized their cameras and deleted their photos and video footage, and then detained and interrogated them for the next six hours.” After returning to the U.S., Lyon felt it her duty to expose the abuse being perpetrated by the government of an ally nation — but CNN International didn’t agree. CNN U.S. eventually aired the one-hour documentary - Once. CNN International never did — worse, the organization gave Lyon the cold shoulder,
4) That time Fox News hired a CIA operative who wasn’t a CIA operative Wayne Shelby Simmons made guest appearances on Fox News as a security expert with insider expertise from his work as a CIA operative — for over a decade. However, Simmons had never been employed by the agency. Mainstream Fox News didn’t bother with journalism at all — proffering fake expertise as the real deal — because the outlet failed the most basic of tasks any hourly wage employer would perform. Simmons’ commentaries weren’t harmless stabs in the dark, either — relentlessly parroting baseless Islamophobic rhetoric to drum up support for the government’s insidious wars
5) Russia “invaded” Crimea
6) Knee-jerk parroting of accusation without evidence, followed by cover-up of evidence about MH17
7) Slobodan Milosevic was a “modern era Hitler” committing genocide. Later exonerated of all charges, but not until years after the US destroyed the nation.
8) Gaddafi was massacring his own civilians in Libya. Based on this MSM propagated lied US and France bombed Libya into the stone age. Destroying the prime sources of potable water for the population as well as a large segments of utilities and infrastructure forcing larges swaths of the population under the rule of terrorist organization Washington had armed to foment “revolution”. Hundreds of thousands perished, more impoverished or made refugees. Later released emails established the motives of Washington’s attack were to obtain Libya’s large gold reserve, stop Gaddafi’s sub-Saharan Africa coalition establishing a gold backed currency, insuring dollar based economic hegemony, and mainlining French banking and political influence over north Africa.
9) Assad launched a poison gas attack against his own people. Later even Washington had to reluctantly admit the gas attack was perpetrated by none other than Washington backed “rebels” and the gas was smuggled into Syria via Turkey.
10) Assad is an “evil dictator” opposed by his people, who clamped down on peaceful protestors and there must be forcibly removed from power.
11) The Syria leis alone are enough to fill an encyclopedia – thousands of lies that the MSM simply uncritically regurgitated or propagated.
12) Vapid anti-marijuana propaganda and the furtherance of the war on drugs
13) Brian Williams: "The helicopter I was riding in got hit with an RPG."
14) President Obama: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
15) The CDC: "There's no evidence linking vaccines to autism."
16) The NSA: "We aren't spying on the phone calls or emails of U.S. citizens."
17) The U.S. Navy: "No sailors were harmed by Fukushima radiation."
18) The mainstream media: "What Fukushima radiation?"
19) The American Diabetes Association: "[Type II] Diabetes cannot be reversed; only managed with expensive medication."
20) Government-run schools: "Common Core provides your child with a quality, historically-accurate education."
21) The FCC: "We don't want to really control the internet. We just want to regulate it a little."
22) Big Pharma: "We don't need to charge you exorbitant prices for drugs for our own profits; we only need the money to bring you amazing breakthroughs!" (REALITY: Most drug company R&D money comes from taxpayer dollars funneled through the NIH.)
23) Every news station in America: "Unvaccinated children put vaccinated children at great risk because vaccines work so well they make vaccinated children immune... unless there are unvaccinated children around in which case the unvaccinated children cause the vaccinated children to revert to unvaccinated status which is bad. And that's where measles comes from!"
24) The U.S. Congress: "We can pay off the national debt by slightly reducing the acceleration of the growth of new debt being added to it."
25) The Federal Reserve: "Printing more fiat currency is good for the economy, and inflated stock market valuations prove it!" (Until one day they don't, anyway...)
26) The IRS: "We need your tax revenues to fund the government." (But when banksters need another trillion-dollar bailout, they instantly create the money from nothing.)
27) Monsanto: "Glyphosate is perfectly safe for human consumption and has zero negative impacts on the environment."
28) British Petroleum: "We completely cleaned up the Gulf of Mexico. What dolphins? We thought those were greasy sea otters..."
29) The FDA: "The psychiatric drugging of children helps children become healthier."
30) The American Dental Association: "Mercury is awesome! Especially when we drill it into your mouth."
31) Vaccine manufacturers: "What mercury?"
32) The uncritical knee-jerk blaming of Donbass and Russia for MH17 without actual evidence; failing to investigate Kiev or its Air Traffic Control or even to demand evidence including air traffic control record, ATC recording, radar records or explanation why Kiev altered the flight path, altitude and speed of the passenger airline; coverup of evidence and hundreds of other issues the media either falsely reported or willfully ignored.
33) The USDA: "Every GMO crop the biotech industry comes up with is totally safe for open-field planting! No worries!"
34) Every liberal media outlet: "Everything is so screwed up by big government that the only answer is BIGGER government!"
35) Children's hospitals: "We are kidnapping your children and forcing them to undergo chemotherapy because we know better than you do what's good for them."
36) local TV news station: "But mercury in vaccines makes children healthier!"
37) Your local city: "Dumping fluoride chemicals into the public water supply is just one of the many ways we selflessly serve the humanitarian needs of society."
38) All mainstream doctors over the last 20 years: "Eating cholesterol in foods causes heart disease."
39) Those same doctors: And because cholesterol is so horrible, statin drugs are awesome and help everyone!
40) CNBC: "The rising stock market proves the economy is strong, and it has nothing to do with money printing by the Fed."
41) The White House: "The number of unemployed Americans is falling, just like we promised. See? These numbers prove it..."
42) Mainstream media: "Illegal immigrants carry no disease into U.S. cities, but unvaccinated American children are filthy and dangerous."
43) Every mainstream media newspaper in America: "There is no CDC whistleblower named Dr. William Thompson, and he never confessed to taking part in the fraudulent alteration of data to bury any link between vaccines and autism."
44) NBC News: "When Brian Williams lies to the world, that's okay. But when independent media organizations report the truth, they're crazy!"
45) Every "science" columnist carried by the mainstream media: "Aspartame is totally safe!
46) The laughably flagrant MSM propaganda storm against the Sochi Olympics which objectively was the most organized, most well run by far of any winter Olympic to date.

http://www.naturalnews.com/048714_mainstream_media_propaganda_lies.html#ixzz4 RmEG0UO0
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/times-when-the-mainstream-media-created-fake-news-and-people-died-as-a-result_11182016#
http://washingtonmerry-go-round.blogspot.com/2012/01/mainstream-media-lies-23-things-that.html
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/02/27/everything-mainstream-media-fake-6-examples-media-manipulation/

[KEEF]

Sampling of “Facts” reported or parroted by Mainstream Media that were lies (but we need MSM partnered with government to protect us from "fake news"):

1) George W. Bush’s Weapons of Mass Destruction . First arbitrarily designating Afghanistan as its primary victim due to the supposed identities of the attackers, Bush then chose Iraq to feel the wrath following dubious claims Saddam Hussein harbored destructive chemical and biological weapons and was actively seeking far stronger munitions.
2) Gulf of Tonkin Incident Often, the American mainstream media becomes a de facto government employee, taking the claims of U.S. officials and reporting them as proven fact. On August 5, 1964, the New York Times reported (http://fair.org/media-beat-column/30-year-anniversary-tonkin-gulf-lie-launched-vietnam-war/). Additional outlets, such as the Washington Post, echoed this claim. But it wasn’t true. At all. In fact, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, as it became known, turned out to be a fictitious creation courtesy of the government (http://www.nytimes.com/1964/08/06/transcript-of-mcnamaras-news-conference.html) to escalate war in Vietnam — leading to the deaths of tens of thousands of U.S. troops and millions of Vietnamese.
3) Suppression of brutality perpetrated in Bahrain during the Arab Spring CNN sent reporter Amber Lyon and a crew to U.S. ally Bahrain for a documentary, but what they encountered instead bore the hallmarks of a repressive and violent regime, and its attempt to filter and censor the truth. Lyon and the other CNN reporters went to great lengths to speak with sources participating in the massive uprising — one the Bahraini government wished to quash at all costs.Even the CNN crew experienced the wrath of the regime, upon showing up to interview one source, “‘20 heavily-armed men’, whose faces were ‘covered with black ski masks’, ‘jumped from military vehicles’, and then ‘pointed machine guns at’ the journalists, forcing them to the ground. The regime’s security forces seized their cameras and deleted their photos and video footage, and then detained and interrogated them for the next six hours.” After returning to the U.S., Lyon felt it her duty to expose the abuse being perpetrated by the government of an ally nation — but CNN International didn’t agree. CNN U.S. eventually aired the one-hour documentary - Once. CNN International never did — worse, the organization gave Lyon the cold shoulder,
4) That time Fox News hired a CIA operative who wasn’t a CIA operative Wayne Shelby Simmons made guest appearances on Fox News as a security expert with insider expertise from his work as a CIA operative — for over a decade. However, Simmons had never been employed by the agency. Mainstream Fox News didn’t bother with journalism at all — proffering fake expertise as the real deal — because the outlet failed the most basic of tasks any hourly wage employer would perform. Simmons’ commentaries weren’t harmless stabs in the dark, either — relentlessly parroting baseless Islamophobic rhetoric to drum up support for the government’s insidious wars
5) Russia “invaded” Crimea
6) Knee-jerk parroting of accusation without evidence, followed by cover-up of evidence about MH17
7) Slobodan Milosevic was a “modern era Hitler” committing genocide. Later exonerated of all charges, but not until years after the US destroyed the nation.
8) Gaddafi was massacring his own civilians in Libya. Based on this MSM propagated lied US and France bombed Libya into the stone age. Destroying the prime sources of potable water for the population as well as a large segments of utilities and infrastructure forcing larges swaths of the population under the rule of terrorist organization Washington had armed to foment “revolution”. Hundreds of thousands perished, more impoverished or made refugees. Later released emails established the motives of Washington’s attack were to obtain Libya’s large gold reserve, stop Gaddafi’s sub-Saharan Africa coalition establishing a gold backed currency, insuring dollar based economic hegemony, and mainlining French banking and political influence over north Africa.
9) Assad launched a poison gas attack against his own people. Later even Washington had to reluctantly admit the gas attack was perpetrated by none other than Washington backed “rebels” and the gas was smuggled into Syria via Turkey.
10) Assad is an “evil dictator” opposed by his people, who clamped down on peaceful protestors and there must be forcibly removed from power.
11) The Syria leis alone are enough to fill an encyclopedia – thousands of lies that the MSM simply uncritically regurgitated or propagated.
12) Vapid anti-marijuana propaganda and the furtherance of the war on drugs
13) Brian Williams: "The helicopter I was riding in got hit with an RPG."
14) President Obama: "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
15) The CDC: "There's no evidence linking vaccines to autism."
16) The NSA: "We aren't spying on the phone calls or emails of U.S. citizens."
17) The U.S. Navy: "No sailors were harmed by Fukushima radiation."
18) The mainstream media: "What Fukushima radiation?"
19) The American Diabetes Association: "[Type II] Diabetes cannot be reversed; only managed with expensive medication."
20) Government-run schools: "Common Core provides your child with a quality, historically-accurate education."
21) The FCC: "We don't want to really control the internet. We just want to regulate it a little."
22) Big Pharma: "We don't need to charge you exorbitant prices for drugs for our own profits; we only need the money to bring you amazing breakthroughs!" (REALITY: Most drug company R&D money comes from taxpayer dollars funneled through the NIH.)
23) Every news station in America: "Unvaccinated children put vaccinated children at great risk because vaccines work so well they make vaccinated children immune... unless there are unvaccinated children around in which case the unvaccinated children cause the vaccinated children to revert to unvaccinated status which is bad. And that's where measles comes from!"
24) The U.S. Congress: "We can pay off the national debt by slightly reducing the acceleration of the growth of new debt being added to it."
25) The Federal Reserve: "Printing more fiat currency is good for the economy, and inflated stock market valuations prove it!" (Until one day they don't, anyway...)
26) The IRS: "We need your tax revenues to fund the government." (But when banksters need another trillion-dollar bailout, they instantly create the money from nothing.)
27) Monsanto: "Glyphosate is perfectly safe for human consumption and has zero negative impacts on the environment."
28) British Petroleum: "We completely cleaned up the Gulf of Mexico. What dolphins? We thought those were greasy sea otters..."
29) The FDA: "The psychiatric drugging of children helps children become healthier."
30) The American Dental Association: "Mercury is awesome! Especially when we drill it into your mouth."
31) Vaccine manufacturers: "What mercury?"
32) The uncritical knee-jerk blaming of Donbass and Russia for MH17 without actual evidence; failing to investigate Kiev or its Air Traffic Control or even to demand evidence including air traffic control record, ATC recording, radar records or explanation why Kiev altered the flight path, altitude and speed of the passenger airline; coverup of evidence and hundreds of other issues the media either falsely reported or willfully ignored.
33) The USDA: "Every GMO crop the biotech industry comes up with is totally safe for open-field planting! No worries!"
34) Every liberal media outlet: "Everything is so screwed up by big government that the only answer is BIGGER government!"
35) Children's hospitals: "We are kidnapping your children and forcing them to undergo chemotherapy because we know better than you do what's good for them."
36) local TV news station: "But mercury in vaccines makes children healthier!"
37) Your local city: "Dumping fluoride chemicals into the public water supply is just one of the many ways we selflessly serve the humanitarian needs of society."
38) All mainstream doctors over the last 20 years: "Eating cholesterol in foods causes heart disease."
39) Those same doctors: And because cholesterol is so horrible, statin drugs are awesome and help everyone!
40) CNBC: "The rising stock market proves the economy is strong, and it has nothing to do with money printing by the Fed."
41) The White House: "The number of unemployed Americans is falling, just like we promised. See? These numbers prove it..."
42) Mainstream media: "Illegal immigrants carry no disease into U.S. cities, but unvaccinated American children are filthy and dangerous."
43) Every mainstream media newspaper in America: "There is no CDC whistleblower named Dr. William Thompson, and he never confessed to taking part in the fraudulent alteration of data to bury any link between vaccines and autism."
44) NBC News: "When Brian Williams lies to the world, that's okay. But when independent media organizations report the truth, they're crazy!"
45) Every "science" columnist carried by the mainstream media: "Aspartame is totally safe!
46) The laughably flagrant MSM propaganda storm against the Sochi Olympics which objectively was the most organized, most well run by far of any winter Olympic to date.

http://www.naturalnews.com/048714_mainstream_media_propaganda_lies.html#ixzz4 RmEG0UO0
http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-fact-and-theory/times-when-the-mainstream-media-created-fake-news-and-people-died-as-a-result_11182016#
http://washingtonmerry-go-round.blogspot.com/2012/01/mainstream-media-lies-23-things-that.html
http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/02/27/everything-mainstream-media-fake-6-examples-media-manipulation/
But it must all be true, I heard it all on FOX and CNN; so if the right and left arms of the media agree, it must be true. <Sarcasm>

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

Fuck the MSM and their lies, deceipt, and treachery

[nikcers]

Social media! in real life people are too PC to talk about politics and social media is something that the establishment has complete control over. Social media is a creation of the government.