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charrob
11-28-2016, 09:54 PM
Is Ohio State attack Classic Blowback? (Obama Moves to Expand Military Operations in Somalia)



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" [...] wrote on what appears to be his facebook page that he had reached a boiling point. America, stop interfering with other countries!" Could the following, which was reported in the New York Times yesterday, be why?



Obama Moves to Expand Military Operations in Somalia (https://www.democracynow.org/2016/11/28/headlines/obama_moves_to_expand_military_operations_in_somal ia)

With less than two months remaining in office, President Obama has quietly moved to expand U.S. military operations in Somalia. According to The New York Times, the administration has decided to deem the militant group al-Shabab to be part of the armed conflict that Congress authorized after the September 11, 2001, attacks, even though al-Shabab did not exist as an organization at the time. The move will make it easier for U.S. forces to intensify airstrikes and counterterrorism operations.





Obama Expands Global War on Terror to Somalia (http://news.antiwar.com/2016/11/27/obama-expands-global-war-on-terror-to-somalia/)

Formed in 2007, al-Shabaab Now Part of 9/11 War

With just over a month left in office, President Obama has once again expanded America’s global war on terror, announcing that he has formally added Somali militant faction al-Shabaab into the “perpetrators of 9/11” war authorization from back in 2001.

Passed on September 14 of 2001, the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) was intended to authorize the war against al-Qaeda, but officials have used as the legal justification of myriad unrelated American wars around the world, of which al-Shabaab is just the latest.

The AUMF authorized war against any nations or organizations involved in 9/11. Al-Shabaab didn’t exist until years later, with the group forming in 2007 and becoming a US-listed terror group in 2008. President Obama, however, seems comfortable continuing to abuse the AUMF for any war that strikes his fancy.

The timing is particularly unusual, with Obama previously said to be loathe to start any new wars this late in his term to leave for the next president. While Obama has been attacking al-Shabaab for years anyhow, the reason behind the official declaration is unknown.

The Northbreather
11-28-2016, 10:03 PM
Yes

goldenequity
11-28-2016, 10:06 PM
Intuitive connection. Kudos.

oyarde
11-28-2016, 10:07 PM
Have any of you ever been to Somalia ? If so , would you let any of them in ? As far as 18 yr old Abdul goes , yes he was weak.

charrob
11-28-2016, 10:20 PM
Here's a good article from back in 2013 written by Scott Horton:


U.S. Government To Blame For Somalia's Misery (http://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/u-s-government-to-blame-for-somalias-misery/)

Krugminator2
11-28-2016, 10:22 PM
Somali Muslim refugees are the most violent immigrant group. 60 Minutes looked at this in Sweden last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZuZQwAWwg


Here's a good article from back in 2013 written by Scott Horton:

U.S. Government To Blame For Somalia's Misery (http://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/u-s-government-to-blame-for-somalias-misery/)


Watch Blackhawk Down. The US isn't to blame. They have been a mess forever.

Danke
11-28-2016, 10:24 PM
Have any of you ever been to Somalia ? If so , would you let any of them in ? As far as 18 yr old Abdul goes , yes he was weak.

They grew up not driving, and no winters.


come to MN, all the cab drivers at the airport are Somalis.

seapilot
11-28-2016, 11:21 PM
Somalia and Ethiopia have been at constant war for over 100 years. British helped create that when they drew borders (like with Pakistan and India). US got involved in Somalia in late 70s backing them while USSR (with troops from Cuban Castro) backed Ethiopia.

Today the US is basing drones in Ethiopia that fly into Somalia ("for observation"), and that explains why they hate US. Then Obama brings them here as refugees and expects them to integrate peacefully.

AuH20
11-28-2016, 11:32 PM
Blowback? More like they shouldn't be in the US in large numbers.

AuH20
11-29-2016, 12:13 AM
Have any of you ever been to Somalia ? If so , would you let any of them in ? As far as 18 yr old Abdul goes , yes he was weak.

Pampered Westerners.


Additional Concerns

Don't attempt to venture out into the streets of Somalia on your own. You will need a qualified local guide to escort you around, particularly if you're a woman.

AuH20
11-29-2016, 12:14 AM
Rape is normal in Somalia. What a fantastic culture!

https://www.hrw.org/report/2014/02/13/here-rape-normal/five-point-plan-curtail-sexual-violence-somalia


Sexual violence is pervasive in much of Somalia. Two decades of civil conflict and state collapse have created a large population of displaced persons and other people vulnerable to sexual violence. At the same time it has destroyed the state institutions that are supposed to protect those most at risk. Armed assailants, including members of state security forces, operating with complete impunity, sexually assault, rape, beat, shoot, and stab women and girls inside camps for the displaced and as they walk to market, tend to their fields, or forage for firewood. Members of Somalia’s long marginalized minority communities are particularly at risk.

Now do we understand why those women in Minnesota were threatened with rape?

AuH20
11-29-2016, 12:19 AM
Somali Muslim refugees are the most violent immigrant group. 60 Minutes looked at this in Sweden last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZuZQwAWwg



Watch Blackhawk Down. The US isn't to blame. They have been a mess forever.


Dysfunctional because the elders got wiped out. When dumb kids (don't) raise their own kids a culture nosedives. Running around with no inhibitions can get one's neck snapped very fast in this world. The Somalis are not savable. Dealing with a plurality of the Somalis is akin to having a brother that is an alcoholic or heroin junkie. You can't save them with the magical properties of the American Dream. LOL They have to want to do it for themselves.