PDA

View Full Version : Rumor: Thomas Massie to head Trump's Science and Technology office




Matt Collins
11-28-2016, 05:09 PM
There have been rumors going around about Thomas Massie (https://www.facebook.com/thomas.massie.31) potentially getting appointed to the head of the government's Science and Technology position under the Trump administration.

This would be a very bad thing and here is why...

1- There are not enough people like him in Congress. Until we get a few more to fill his shoes, this would leave a huge gap

2- Thomas is the guy responsible for booting Boehner.

3- Thomas has single handily stopped lots of legislation from becoming law through unanimous consent.

4- There is a good chance Thomas could become a US Senator in the future. Giving up a Congressional seat could hurt this

5- In the new position, he would have to answer to Reince Preibus. Currently, the only people he answers to are his constituents.

6- Many times, these sort of "promotions" are a thinly veiled attempt to remove someone from an actual position of power to a percieved position of power. Not saying that is what is happening here, but it could be, especially given #2, 3, 4, and 5 above.

7- This office probably shouldn't exist under the Constitution anyway. Yes I know it is better to have a liberty minded person in charge of this however there simply aren't enough liberty politicians to go around as of yet. Losing him in Congress would be a huge detriment (see #1)

Matt Collins
11-28-2016, 05:10 PM
Here is a link to the rumor:


http://www.thelibertyconservative.com/rep-thomas-massie-considered-science-advisor-president-trump/

Sola_Fide
11-28-2016, 05:12 PM
I agree Matt. Its a horrible idea.

CPUd
11-28-2016, 05:18 PM
He's better off staying in Congress

vita3
11-28-2016, 05:31 PM
There's a lot of NEW House of Representatives coming in. There should be a few as good as Massie.

PatriotOne
11-28-2016, 05:43 PM
Ummmm.....that's a powerful position. I hope its true and I hope he takes it. He could expose climate change for what it truly is and a lot more. Open up real clean energy options. Screw congress....this position is a game changer and a direct hit to the globalists. I'm giddy at the thought.

Sola_Fide
11-28-2016, 05:54 PM
There's a lot of NEW House of Representatives coming in. There should be a few as good as Massie.

Really? Like who? Massie is arguably the closest thing to Ron Paul in the American government today.

angelatc
11-28-2016, 05:59 PM
I'm confident that Thomas will be calling you for advice ASAP, Matt.

phill4paul
11-28-2016, 05:59 PM
I'd rather him stay where he is at also.

angelatc
11-28-2016, 06:03 PM
I'd rather him stay where he is at also.

Maybe he could just take the position for a day, and then abolish it.

The Gold Standard
11-28-2016, 06:16 PM
Trump is getting him out of the way so they can get a typical Republican in his seat. Draining the swamp and all that. If Rand would take a worthless position I bet Trump would offer him one too.

phill4paul
11-28-2016, 06:17 PM
Maybe he could just take the position for a day, and then abolish it.

But he would lose his seat. And could he abolish it? I'm thinking not. I like Thomas where he is at. I'm with Matt, God I can't believe I just wrote that, in that Massie and other liberty candidates need to be careful regarding appointments.

AuH20
11-28-2016, 06:31 PM
Trump is getting him out of the way so they can get a typical Republican in his seat. Draining the swamp and all that. If Rand would take a worthless position I bet Trump would offer him one too.

what?

William Tell
11-28-2016, 06:32 PM
Don't. You. Dare. Thomas.

vita3
11-28-2016, 06:35 PM
"Really? Like who? Massie is arguably the closest thing to Ron Paul in the American government today. "

I really don't know & believe me I think Massie is fantastic.

Believe there was 43 retirees..

dannno
11-28-2016, 06:36 PM
Trump is getting him out of the way so they can get a typical Republican in his seat. Draining the swamp and all that. If Rand would take a worthless position I bet Trump would offer him one too.

This argument could work, if they had been floating Rand's name for some weak position too - considering he wields a lot more power than Massie. Maybe Trump feels Rand is more valuable in the Senate, and Massie would be more valuable in this position.

jonhowe
11-28-2016, 06:37 PM
It'd also link him forever to environmental issues. It's a hot-button issue, and has a lot of single-issue voters around it, and he should avoid being dragged solely into the climate change arena.

dannno
11-28-2016, 06:38 PM
It'd also link him forever to environmental issues. It's a hot-button issue, and has a lot of single-issue voters around it, and he should avoid being dragged solely into the climate change arena.

It is one of the most important issues we face...

phill4paul
11-28-2016, 06:39 PM
It'd also link him forever to environmental issues. It's a hot-button issue, and has a lot of single-issue voters around it, and he should avoid being dragged solely into the climate change arena.

I agree.

alucard13mm
11-28-2016, 06:45 PM
What the hell kinda power does this "head of science and technology office" has? lol... Seems like a dead end, symbolic position that does nothing.

Brian4Liberty
11-28-2016, 06:49 PM
I'll bet that Massie will weigh the pros and cons, and take the position he wants to take and where he feels he can make the greatest impact.

Zippyjuan
11-28-2016, 06:52 PM
But he would lose his seat. And could he abolish it? I'm thinking not. I like Thomas where he is at. I'm with Matt, God I can't believe I just wrote that, in that Massie and other liberty candidates need to be careful regarding appointments.

It was created by an act of Congress in 1976. It would probably require another act of Congress to get rid of it though a president could decide not to staff it. The head is subject to "the advice and consent" of the Senate like other position such as Secretary of Defense or State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Technology_Policy

phill4paul
11-28-2016, 06:57 PM
I'll bet that Massie will weigh the pros and cons, and take the position he wants to take and where he feels he can make the greatest impact.

This.

AuH20
11-28-2016, 07:00 PM
Imagine going from John Holdren to Thomas Massie? That would be a complete 180.

jonhowe
11-28-2016, 07:04 PM
It was created by an act of Congress in 1976. It would probably require another act of Congress to get rid of it though a president could decide not to staff it. The head is subject to "the advice and consent" of the Senate like other position such as Secretary of Defense or State.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Science_and_Technology_Policy

I'm having flashback of Weld's nomination for Canadian Ambassador. IIRC, he stepped down, then failed to be confirmed.

The Gold Standard
11-28-2016, 07:33 PM
This argument could work, if they had been floating Rand's name for some weak position too - considering he wields a lot more power than Massie. Maybe Trump feels Rand is more valuable in the Senate, and Massie would be more valuable in this position.

They aren't floating Rand's name because he wouldn't even consider accepting an offer unless it was for a major spot which Trump would never offer him anyway.

helmuth_hubener
11-28-2016, 08:11 PM
Well, whether it's a good idea to accept or not (I can see both sides), you've got to admit it's a good thing he's being considered!

EBounding
11-28-2016, 10:15 PM
I'll trust his judgement no matter what he decides.

Matt Collins
11-29-2016, 10:19 PM
UPDATE:


According to Thomas, this was just rumor:
https://reason.com/blog/2016/11/29/rep-massie-hasnt-heard-from-trump-transi

CaseyJones
11-30-2016, 09:29 AM
Congressman Massie says he’d 'seriously consider' post in Trump administration

http://www.dailyindependent.com/news/congressman-massie-says-he-d-seriously-consider-post-in-trump/article_3756e5e8-b696-11e6-a268-eb94e16b8a8a.html


U.S. Congressman Thomas Massie, R-Ky., said he would “seriously consider” a position in President-elect Donald Trump’s administration, but hasn’t been approached by his transition team.

In a phone interview with The Daily Independent on Tuesday, Massie responded to rumors claiming he’s under consideration for a top post in the Trump administration.

“If there’s any truth to the rumor, it’s coming from his team, not mine,” said Massie. “[Trump] has assembled a very impressive cabinet so far, and I would seriously consider working in his administration.”

A report by The Liberty Conservative, an online magazine, surfaced Monday stating that the Trump team is considering Massie for director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, a position commonly referred to as Science Advisor to the President.

The author cited a “confidential source on the Trump transition team.”

Austin Petersen, a former candidate for the Libertarian Party’s 2016 nomination for President of the United States, founded the website The Libertarian Republic which also posted a story on Monday linking Massie to consideration for the Science Advisor position.

Petersen told The Daily Independent the source of the story is on the Trump transition team and agreed to speak to the online magazine “only on the condition of anonymity.”

Science Advisor to the President is considered the closest position to a cabinet-level role in science and technology. The appointee would spearhead nationwide initiatives related to science and tech, have increased access to Trump and work almost exclusively in the White House complex with the Office of Science and Technology Policy staff.

Massie believes he'd be qualified for the position if considered, but hadn't given it much thought previously.

The libertarian-leaning conservative said he’s even more intrigued by the idea of serving in the cabinet as secretary of energy.

Like the outgoing energy secretary, Ernest Moniz, Massie has ties to Massachusetts Institute of Technology, or MIT. Moniz, a nuclear physicist, was a longtime physics and engineering professor at MIT before his appointment to head the U.S. Department of Energy in 2013.

Massie, 45, earned a bachelor’s degree in electrical engineering and master’s in mechanical engineering from MIT, where he also completed independent studies on energy and energy solutions.

He now serves on three House committees, including the Science, Space and Technology Committee and the Subcommittee on Energy.

When away from Washington, the U.S. representative from Kentucky’s 4th Congressional District resides in Lewis County in a home powered by solar panels, and noted he drives a Tesla with a “’friends of coal’ license plate.”

On climate change, Massie said he’s “skeptical of the theory that humans have had a large effect” on environmental shifts and the topic has “become a shouting match in the public discourse.”

Massie acknowledged the Earth, which has never been hotter in recorded history, is warming.

“But it was warming in pre-industrial times,” he said. “The question isn’t whether the Earth is warming, but is the Earth warming at a quicker rate because of human involvement?”

The U.S. should work toward energy independence, Massie said, as it makes “us more secure when we aren’t relying on hostile nations.”

Texas oil tycoon Harold Hamm is rumored to be under consideration for energy secretary, along with Venture capitalist Robert Grady and North Dakota Rep. Kevin Cramer, according to NPR.

Trump’s transition staff could not be reached for comment on the validity of the president elect’s interest in Massie for the science advisor post.

Massie warmed to Trump this summer after previously referring to him as a “big middle finger to Washington, D.C.” during an appearance at a luncheon in Ashland. At that time, Massie was campaigning for Sen. Rand Paul, Ky., who dropped out of the presidential race in February.

Trump received Massie’s endorsement after the two met in Washington. Massie said he’s impressed by Trump’s business dealings and believes the president elect been unfairly judged.

“I think the media in general is underestimating [Trump’s] ability to be a great president,” Massie said.

If the Trump transition team was to tap him for a position, Massie said he wouldn’t be eager to forfeit the seat he just won for a third time in landslide fashion. He’s also keen on serving his home district in a Republican-heavy House as a more seasoned congressman.

“At this point I’ve accumulated a fair amount of seniority,” he said. “This is an opportunity for the Republican Party, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity where we have a majority in the House, Senate and we control the White House. We can’t blow it.”

Tywysog Cymru
11-30-2016, 01:32 PM
Of course Trump wants to take pro-liberty congressmen out of congress.

tennman
12-01-2016, 12:06 PM
A confidential source on the Trump transition team has told The Liberty Conservative that Rep. Thomas Massie, an award-winning, MIT-educated engineer, elected to Congress in 2012, is under consideration for the job of Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, a role commonly known as Science Advisor to the President. Massie currently serves as Chairman for the Subcommittee on Technology and Innovation in the House of Representatives. http://resistancefeed.com/2016/12/01/thomas-massie-considered-trump-administration-post/

jllundqu
12-01-2016, 01:08 PM
This was posted yesterday, but I would still like an answer or update.

Anyone hear from Massie on this 'rumor'?